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Why More Growth Can Make Your Business Worse - Ep34, Cameron Magee, CEO avad3
7th September 2026 • The Business Takeaway Podcast, Leadership & Business Advice • Ben Payne
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What happens when growing your business stops making it better? Cameron Magee started working in event production as a teenager in Arkansas before building avad3 into a national US event production company. But his most valuable lessons aren't about AV or live events — they're about scaling a business deliberately and the leadership tips, management skills and ceo insights that come from that.

In this episode, Cameron explains why he doesn't believe in growth at all costs, why he'll turn down customers that no longer fit the business, and how he's learned to separate ambition from simply becoming bigger.

We also explore financing growth, business debt, hiring, company culture, delegation and the difficult transition founders make from doing the work themselves to leading the people who do it.

In this episode:

  • How Cameron turned a teenage passion into a business
  • How exceptional service unexpectedly opened national opportunities
  • Why avad3 could travel thousands of miles and still beat local competitors on price
  • Cameron's approach to self-funding and business debt
  • Why he only uses debt to finance assets — not payroll
  • Why equipment and people don't need to make money independently
  • How founders become bottlenecks as businesses scale
  • Why Cameron deliberately doesn't want unlimited growth
  • Hiring one employee from 135 applicants
  • Why “culture is what you celebrate and tolerate”
  • Maintaining standards when the founder isn't there
  • Why constantly changing technology can hurt productivity
  • Replacing legacy customers with better-fit work
  • Why Cameron sometimes sends business to competitors
  • Creativity versus operational efficiency
  • Cameron's biggest business takeaway: remain a lifelong student

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00:00 Introduction

01:32 Discovering event production

05:16 Could this actually become a business?

08:49 Ambition versus contentment

11:12 Taking a local business national

15:56 Funding business growth

20:54 Making people and assets profitable

23:40 Scaling delivery across America

26:33 Learning world-class standards

30:30 When the founder leaves the tools

34:29 How big should the company become?

39:16 Hiring beyond friends and family

42:23 Culture, standards and accountability

46:38 Technology and operational change

49:30 Sustainability and long-term investment

53:46 The future of the business

59:41 Creativity versus bigger budgets

1:01:48 Cameron's Business Takeaway

1:04:51 Rapid fire

GUEST LINKS

Cameron's current business and profile details are independently verifiable. avad3 describes itself as a nationwide event-production partner, and Cameron is publicly identified as its founder/owner.

Cameron Magee — LinkedIn

Cameron Magee on LinkedIn

avad3 Event Production

avad3 website

avad3 resources / content

avad3 resources

Their site also has a useful connection to Cameron's service-first point: the company explicitly explains that “avad” derives from a Hebrew term meaning “to work, do, serve,” and positions service as part of the brand.

COMPLEMENTARY EPISODES

Sam Tamplin — How to Scale a Business to 100 Staff (Without Losing Control)

Same industry background, but a useful contrast in scale. Sam's episode deals directly with reinvestment, leadership, systems and keeping culture intact while growing towards 100 people.

Listen to Sam Tamplin on Spotify

Dave Coull — Culture Isn't Words on a Wall

Cameron's strongest leadership section is about what happens when people don't meet your standards. Dave's episode goes deeper into culture, trust, values and managing high performers whose behaviour doesn't align with the organisation.

Listen to Dave Coull on Spotify

Matt Turner — Building a Business Where People Actually Want to Work

The natural follow-on to Cameron's discussion around transitioning from practitioner to leader and deciding what kind of organisation you actually want to build.

Listen to Matt Turner on Spotify

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