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January 16, 2025 - Genesis 12-15
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00:00 Introduction and Audience Question

00:26 Pastor PJ's Insight on Genesis 9:1

01:32 Discussion on Satan and Dominion

03:15 New Staff Member Announcement

03:50 Exploring Genesis 12: Abraham's Journey

06:01 Abram's Time in Egypt

08:48 Abram and Lot Separate

10:19 Abram Rescues Lot and Meets Melchizedek

12:47 God's Covenant with Abram

16:42 Understanding Biblical Timeframes

21:11 Concluding Thoughts and Prayer

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PJ:

Hey everybody, welcome back to another

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Rod: edition of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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Let's jump on into this.

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We have a question from

an audience member.

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We are just right away.

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Okay.

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Yeah, let's go.

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Here's the question.

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You ready for this?

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It's a doozy.

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Here's what it says.

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Genesis 9.

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1 omits the command to subdue

the earth, as was in Genesis 1.

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28.

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Do you find any significance

in that omission?

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Okay, the field is yours, Pastor PJ.

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PJ: Answer as you see fit.

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Yeah, honestly, I don't.

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necessarily find any significance

in the omission there.

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I think it's implied, I think

it's implied in the rest of

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the unfolding of human history.

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I think that's part of the role of man.

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Even when we go to Psalm 8, which I

know is a messianic Psalm, but at the

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same time, I think it has a dual reality

where it's talking about both Christ as

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the Messiah, but also mankind as well.

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When he says, what is man that you are

mindful of him, the son of man that

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you care for him, you've made him a

little lower than the heavenly beings,

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crowned him with glory and honor.

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You've given him dominion

over the works of your hands.

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And so there in, there's I think that

there's a continuation of even the

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dominion mandate that's given to mankind.

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You've put all things under his feet,

all sheep and oxen, beasts of the field.

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So I think it's assumed there.

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I think it might be a little bit

too much to parse out the lack

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of its presence there in Genesis.

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Maybe there is more to that than

meets the eye, but I do think

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that, that it's assumed and

implied in the instructions there.

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In fact, it goes on in verse two.

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It says the fear of you, the dread

of you shall be upon every beast of

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the earth and upon every bird of the

heavens, upon everything that creeps

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on the ground, all the fish of the sea.

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So there's dominion implied there and

what they're going to, the response

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of the animals to Noah and his

family after the flood, post flood.

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Rod: Do you make anything of

the fact that scripture calls

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Satan the God of this world?

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Did mankind somehow lose his

dominion status, his leadership

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because of Adam and Eve's

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PJ: sin?

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Yeah, we were always going to be vice

rulers, no matter what, vice regents,

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because even prior to the fall, God is the

ultimate ruler, the ultimate authority.

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So I think maybe in that sense,

the vice regency now is for the

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unbeliever a la Ephesians chapter

two, they are vice regents of Satan.

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They're exercising dominion on Satan's

behalf over God's creation in a

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way that is, is broken and marring

creation even further as believers.

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I think we are being restored.

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And, and sanctified such that we

would have an opportunity to, to

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exercise dominion more akin to what

his original design was for us.

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But we won't fully realize that

until the new earth, when, when he

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is reigning and we are all in our

glorified bodies with him at that point.

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Rod: And practically speaking, as you

look at the unfolding of human history

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and redemptive history, you still see

man operating with that same mindset.

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We're taking dominion.

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We're continuing to build and to

operate as God designed us to.

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We're inventing new things.

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We're just talking about AI yesterday.

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Man is still taking dominion over.

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The creation, even the digital creation

that we're trying to navigate now.

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So there's so many areas where

you still see the effect of God

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command, even if you don't see.

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That effect in perfect harmony

with the way God designed it.

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So there's always going to be sin.

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There's always going to be fallenness

in Genesis chapter three, where

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you have the cursing of the ground.

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God doesn't tell Adam

to stop taking dominion.

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He just says, it's going to be much

harder now that the dominion mandate,

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I think is still in effect as well.

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Although to the point of our writer here.

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I do think there is something to be said

about Jesus taking ultimate dominion.

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I think there is something to be

said about him being the last Adam.

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So there is something about that,

although I don't think it absolutely

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negates man's call to be part

of that dominion mandate still.

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Yeah, I would agree.

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I would agree for

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PJ: sure.

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Yeah.

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Hey, we have a new staff

member in the office.

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We haven't, I don't think

mentioned that on the podcast,

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but it's something worth noting.

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Sure.

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Allie Trinidad is here officially as

our Kidsmen Administrative Assistant.

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AT2.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Cause AT1 is Angelo, her husband.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, she's in the office

and it's been good and it's

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also been a little bit tight.

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Yeah.

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A little bit tight.

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A little bit cramped.

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Yeah.

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We need more space like yesterday.

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Yeah.

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It would be nice.

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Yeah.

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But we're glad and excited for that.

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And I know Mark's looking forward

to having her on the team.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, he's been praying

for that for a long time.

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So we're glad we could

finally get rolling.

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I feel like we're growing quick, man.

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Yeah, it is.

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Hey, let's jump into our text for the day.

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All right.

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Genesis 12.

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Something that I was noticing as I was

reading through Genesis 12 through 15

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this time is just the movement of Abraham.

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I don't know that there's anything

there, but in the realm of theology,

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when you write a PhD, you have to

find something super nuanced to write

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on that nobody else has written on.

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I wonder if there's something

to the movements of Abraham.

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Why he moves from one place to the other.

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And it starts even right away in Genesis

chapter 12, God commands him to go.

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And this command to go is notice to

go from your country, your kindred,

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your father's house to the land.

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I will show you some of the

people that are listening to this.

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You guys.

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Went from California, you went

from your home and your family and

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your work and everything else to

come on the church plant with us.

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And so, you know a little bit about

what's what he's dealing with here.

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But back in this time, man,

the family was everything.

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Your family, your lineage,

your culture, your land.

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It was everything.

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And now God is calling

Abraham to go away from that.

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And to go to this promised land, Abram at

this point, that's worth note, but he's

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not going to be Abraham until much later.

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And so God commands him to

go and look at verse four.

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So Abraham went, but in between there

in verse three, an important verse

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here, he says, I'm going to bless you.

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And I'm going to bless all the nations.

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All the families of the earth

will be blessed through you.

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So this is what Paul refers to in

Galatians chapter three as the gospel.

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He says, God preached the

gospel beforehand to Abraham

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saying, and you will, all the

families of the earth be blessed.

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And the way that's going to happen is

the descendant of Abraham that we know

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Jesus, Jesus is going to be the one

that's going to descend from Abraham

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through his line, through the son of the

promise, Isaac, we'll get to that later.

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And he's going to be the one

that's going to bring blessing

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to all the families of the earth.

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So pretty cool there that Paul refers

to Genesis 12, three and calls that the

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gospel in the book of Galatians, Abraham

comes to a couple of different locations.

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The first one that he comes to is Shechem.

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Shechem is going to be an important

place in the old Testament.

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It's going to be the place where

Joseph's bones are laid to rest.

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It's going to also be the eventual

capital city of the Northern kingdom.

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It's a place of spiritual

significance for the people there.

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And it starts here with Abraham

venturing there, Abram venturing there.

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Then it comes to Bethel and Bethel

is the second most mentioned city in

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the Old Testament behind Jerusalem.

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Another sacred place, significant

place here associated with, with

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Abraham and later with Jacob.

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This is the place where Jacob has

the dream of the angels ascending

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and descending upon the ladder.

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So this is a significant location

in Israel's history as well.

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Bethel means house of God.

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And so this is the calling of Abraham

and the initial promise of blessing

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to Abraham here as Genesis 12 opens.

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Verses 10 through 20 then a famine shows

up in the land and Abraham takes off and

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Abraham goes down with his wife Sarai now

Eventually, we will know her as Sarah,

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but right now she is Sarai and they flee

to Egypt and while they're there Yeah,

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this is where Abram takes on a little

bit at less of a shiny veneer for us

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Because Abram tells his wife Sarai to

tell the king there that she's his sister.

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And the reason is to

preserve Abram's life.

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So think about it.

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God has just told Abram, go to this land.

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I'm going to give it to you.

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I'm going to bless all the

families there through you.

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And you're going to be a

blessing to other people.

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Abram goes down to Egypt and immediately

he lacks his trust in his faith and his

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confidence in God and tells Sarai his wife

to lie and tell the king there that she is

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his sister in order to preserve his life.

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And what he ends up doing is putting his

wife's life in grave danger, or at least

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her moral character in significant danger.

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Rod: Yeah, and it gets worse,

because this happens more than once.

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This is not the first and last

time that Abraham's gonna do this.

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There's one more event, and then there's

one more that his son's gonna do.

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But on top of this, what you have, okay,

so someone, I read this, someone said,

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no one told Abraham not to do this.

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This wasn't forbidden by God, he didn't

command it either, so it wasn't like God

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was telling him to go do this, but this

isn't necessarily a wrong thing to do.

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But we can say, based on the context

here, this wasn't a good thing.

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The fact that he's putting his wife

on the line instead of saying, this is

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my, this is my bride, please give us

safe passage, it does show a lack of

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faith and a lack of character there.

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But notice, this is a bad scene

on, on, on Abraham's life.

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This is not an act of faith, this

is certainly an act of, Human

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ingenuity, which ends up hurting him.

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And I guess this is also worth noting too.

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This is likely when he picks up Hagar

and she's going to play a pretty

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prominent role in the coming chapters.

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A little role.

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PJ: Egypt is such a thorn in

the side of Israel, right?

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And from the

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Rod: very beginning,

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PJ: and here you see it again.

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And so many times Israel looks

to Egypt for deliverance.

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Israel looks to Egypt for what

she should have trusted God for.

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And here you see Abraham who becomes

the father of, of Jacob, who is then

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renamed Israel and produces the 12

tribes that the grandfather, rather.

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Here you have Abram fleeing to Egypt.

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Yeah.

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Was he told not to do it?

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No, but was he told by God, Hey, this is

the promised land that I'll be giving you.

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And I'm going to, I'm

going to bless you here.

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I think there's a lot between the

lines of where Abraham or Abram

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failed to trust in God in this.

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I don't know that we can say it was even

a good move for him to leave the promised

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land and go down to Egypt to begin

with in the midst of the famine, rather

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than to turn to the Lord and trust and

say, okay, God, I'm going to trust you.

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I'm here.

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You told me to go here.

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I am.

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And here's this famine,

which, what you got for me.

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That's gonna fix that later.

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He's gonna tell him not to go to Egypt.

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Rod: Yeah, he's

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PJ: gonna do not go Yeah, I'll give you

a pass on the first one and I got you

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out of danger, but don't do that again

I mean in the chronological plane is

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so good because we it wasn't long ago

If you were with us last year that we

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were reading about even towards the

end of Israel's history in the Northern

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Kingdom especially trusting in Egypt and

Judah trusting in Egypt as Babylon was

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coming against her and everything else

Egypt is going to be a problem and is a

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problem right off the bat right here too.

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Genesis, yeah, chapter 20,

that's the situation there.

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So Genesis 13, then we find a situation

where Abram, who is with his, his

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nephew, Lot, comes back up and they find

that there's not enough prairie land.

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There's not enough pasture

land for their flocks.

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And with that being the case, Abram and

Lot end up separating and Lot is going

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to make a decision that's going to have

reverberating effects as we'll find

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out in a few days here, because he's

going to go down to the land of Sodom.

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Which he views as a land that

is beautiful and a land that

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can provide for his flocks.

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And he's going to go down there.

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And so Abram and Lot

in chapter 13 separate.

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And God then promises to Abram in this

context, the land that Abraham could see.

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He says, look around you, see everything

in front of you and understand.

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I'm going to give you this land.

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And also I'm going to give you descendants

as numerous as the dust on the earth.

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And so God is developing what is going

to be the Abrahamic covenant slowly,

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but surely from Genesis 12, all the way,

ultimately through Genesis chapter 15,

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which we'll get to in a moment here.

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Is Genesis

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Rod: 12, the beginning of the Abrahamic

covenant, or is, what'd you say?

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Because he says here, I will

make you a great nation.

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I'll bless you.

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I'll make your name great so

that you'll be a blessing.

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And I'll bless those who bless you.

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And him who dishonors you, I'll curse.

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And in you, all the families

of the earth shall be blessed.

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Some of the language that we even use

to describe the Abrahamic covenant

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is here and not in Genesis 15.

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Talk about land, seed, and blessing.

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The blessing is listed here.

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We don't see that in chapter 15.

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So is this the Abrahamic covenant or

is Genesis 15 the Abrahamic covenants?

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Are both?

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Is it multiple places?

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Yes.

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PJ: Okay.

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I think it's being

developed this whole time.

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I think it's everything.

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I think when we get to 15 and

the covenant language is used,

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I think it's Formally enacted.

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It's formally enacted, but it's reaching

back to grab everything that God has

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promised to Abraham up until that point.

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Rod: Right on.

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PJ: Genesis 14 then, verses 1 through

16, Lot gets himself in some trouble, or

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at least some trouble finds Lot, which

seems to, again, happen quite often, and

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these kings in this Canaanite conflict

come against Sodom, and there's battles

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that take place, and In the course of

the fighting, Lot is taken captive, and

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Abram finds out about it, and Abram goes

after Lot, and ends up rescuing Lot.

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And so this points to some of Abram's

military prowess, that Abram was

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a leader, Abram was a stout guy.

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And so he rescues Lot.

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From this is one of those times where

if we had like a YouTube recap, like

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a highlight video from that would

be interesting to see what was that?

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What was that?

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Like, was it pretty bloody?

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Yeah, I bet so too.

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But was Abraham in the back,

like commanding the troops

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or was Abraham up front?

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Was it like they escaped

by the skin of their teeth?

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What, what happened there?

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Anyways, creativity,

you can think about it.

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Chapter 14, then verses 17 through 24, uh,

Abram meets a new guy named Melchizedek.

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Now, again, Melchizedek is going to come

into play in the New Testament, in the

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book of Hebrews, which we covered in,

uh, not too long ago in our daily Bible

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reading last year, Melchizedek is called

the king of Salem being the word for

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peace, and so he's the king of peace.

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Melchizedek, his name means

king of righteousness.

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So he is both the king of

righteousness and the king of peace.

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And he is, we learn here, a

priest King and Abram comes

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to him and he blesses Abram.

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Now the writer of Hebrews is going

to make the argument that the

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superior blesses the inferior.

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And so here we see something about

Melchizedek that Melchizedek is

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greater than Abram was, and that's

significant because we're in the

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context of God making these outlandish

and amazing promises to Abram.

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And here comes a guy

that's greater than Abram.

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And Abram even recognizes that

by paying him a tenth, giving him

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a tithe against something that

the inferior did to the superior.

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Melchizedek, we don't believe,

is the pre incarnate Christ.

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We don't believe that Melchizedek is

an eternal being, although it says

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that he didn't have father or mother.

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I think that refers more

to his mysterious origins.

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People didn't really

know where he came from.

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But he is a unique character,

certainly, and he shows up here.

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In the interaction here with Abram, and

he will also be the one that is the head,

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who is the head priest after whose line

is the line of Christ, that Jesus is of

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the priestly line of Melchizedek, not as

we're going to see later of Levi or Aaron.

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Yeah, there's a lot of

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Rod: questions about Melchizedek

that we just, we don't know.

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We don't know.

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We, there's so many questions,

marks, question marks and ideas,

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who knows where he comes from?

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Clearly God had ordained him

to be there at just the right

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time, just the right place.

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And he, Jesus is now a priest according

to, or after the order of Melchizedek.

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So this is a legitimate figure that

God puts there and where does he come

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PJ: from?

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Who is he?

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We don't know.

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Chapter 15, then God shows up

again, initiates contact with

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Abraham here and promises him

descendants, including an heir.

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Is it something again, that just

is, is jumping out probably just the

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way that we've been reading things.

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Thinking back to, uh, Zechariah,

when the angel showed up to

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Zechariah and said, Hey, Zechariah,

your wife is going to have a baby.

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And he says, how's this going to be?

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And then Zechariah is going to be mute.

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Right?

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And then the angel shows up to Mary

and says, Hey, Mary, you're going

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to have a baby by the Holy Spirit.

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And Mary says, how's this going to be?

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Third Eye blind.

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Rod: That's third eye blind, right?

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Is it?

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I don't Matchbox third

eye one of those guys.

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It, I think it's third line.

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How's it gonna be if you know that song?

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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If you don't and you're

just totally unsure

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PJ: of what we're talking about

right now, don't sweat it.

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This is the googly Yeah.

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That you come for.

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And if you know that

song, take some ibuprofen.

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'cause your joints probably

hurt right now . That's true.

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But God shows up to Abram and says,

Abram, you're gonna have a son.

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And Abram questions God and, and

God is kind to respond and say,

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this is how it's gonna happen

and this is what's gonna happen.

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And.

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Yeah, also know that, that

it's going to be a rocky road.

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They're going to go down to Egypt.

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There's Egypt again.

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They're going to be in captivity

in Egypt for 400 years.

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And then they're going to come

back and take the promised land.

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When the iniquity of the

Amorites had been completed.

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So Pastor Rod, why does he

single out the Amorites here?

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When there were a lot of other ites in

the area that were also rebellious, that

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God's people were going to be commanded

to drive out of the promised land.

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Rod: Because the Amorites

were the ones that God said

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are, Actually, you know what?

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I take that back.

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I don't know how you're

bringing them in particular.

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I don't know.

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I don't think I know where

you're going with that.

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Why don't you answer that?

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PJ: I think it's, I'm bringing

them up because that's who

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God's who's listed here, right?

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Rod: Their evil had not yet

been re have reached a level,

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but what else do you intend to?

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PJ: I think that's, that should

cause us to say, why does he,

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why does he single them out?

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Why not talk about the other ites,

the Hittites and the Jebusites

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and the other ites that are there.

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And the best answer that I found

for this is that it's serving as

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that synecdoche for the entirety

of the inhabitants of the land.

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That this is the Canaanites in general.

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And he's singling the Amorites out

as the figurehead for all of them.

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Rod: Yeah.

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Perhaps they were the largest clan

and so they're all encompassing.

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Yes, the whole answer is that God does

intend for them to take the land, which

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would include all the Yites, of whom

the Amorites are only part of them.

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I think it's important

too, verse 6 is huge.

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This is the whole enchilada when it

comes to the way that we understand

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the gospel to function in the life

of even the New Testament believer.

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Abraham is saved in the

same way we're saved.

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Look at verse six, he believed that

the Lord and he counted it to him.

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The Lord counted it to

Abraham as righteousness.

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And that's what the new Testament

gospel does for us as well.

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We believe in his promise to save us

from our sin, to be our substitutionary

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atonement, and God counts that to us.

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He, he applies that to our accounts as

our righteousness, our justification.

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This is a sweet verse.

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This is worth

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PJ: memorizing.

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Genesis 15, six clutch.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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100%.

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I would agree with you on that.

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And then the chapter ends with

the Abrahamic covenant, and

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this is where it's the covenant

language that's used specifically.

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And this is verse 18, on that day,

the Lord made a covenant with Abraham.

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And there's this interesting scene

where the animals are brought and

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they're, they're cut open, which is

what you would do with a covenant.

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The word for covenant, I believe

it's the Hebrew barit means to cut.

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And so the animals were cut.

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They were laid on one side of the other.

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And then typically what would happen is

two parties making the covenant would walk

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through the middle of the animals that

had been cut, that had been sacrificed.

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And that was basically saying, these

two parties were saying, hey, if one of

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us breaks this, then we're going to end

up the way these animals have ended up.

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Cut me up, bro.

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Yeah.

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And what's interesting

here is Abraham's asleep.

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He's losing on the job.

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And he sees the torch

passing between the animals.

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And so there's been a lot of speculation

as to the significance there, but the way

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i've under always understood It is this

covenant is a unilateral covenant meaning

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this is just god is saying abraham.

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I'm promising to do this for you That

this is an unconditional, is another way

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to put it, an unconditional covenant.

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And that's why we would say it

still remains in effect today.

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The Mosaic covenant has been

fulfilled in Christ, but the

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Abrahamic covenant, the promises of

the Abrahamic covenant still remain.

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And that, that even has to do with

our eschatology and our trust that

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man, that land of promise has yet

to be finally fulfilled for Israel.

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That's coming in the future with

the new Jerusalem, with, with the

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reconciling of God's people, the

return of God's people together.

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Abrahamic covenant, unilateral

covenant God makes with Abraham.

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And that impacts the

Jew and Gentile alike.

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Indeed.

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Rod: One more note here.

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If I may, verse 13 says that

the, that Abraham's people would

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be afflicted for 400 years.

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Now we could throw a flag on the play

and say that's not technically true.

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It wasn't 400 years.

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It was 430 years.

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But what this tells me is that

God is perfectly fine operating

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in the realm of human vernacular.

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He, He uses the round number.

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400 years.

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He could have said 430 years

and 27 days and 14 hours and

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16 minutes and 35 seconds.

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He doesn't do that.

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He, He condescends to humanity

by using language that we would

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all say, okay, yes, that's true.

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So I guess I bring that up only to

point out to the fact that God is

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condescending to us by speaking to

us the way that we would understand.

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It doesn't mean that everything

that is said in the Bible is meant

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to be precisely understood as

exactly the thing that we're saying.

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When we say we take the Bible literally,

it doesn't mean we, we take it to mean

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every single jot and tittle is meant

to be understood in a wooden way.

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We take it to be absolute in

the way that it presents itself.

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So if it's presenting as poetry,

we take it as absolute poetry.

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It's truth.

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Our job is to figure out what he's

trying to say with that truth.

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If we're reading narrative,

we're taking that as truth.

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A round number, we take it to be a

round number and that God is not being

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inaccurate by saying it's 400 verses 430.

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PJ: Yeah, context is, is so helpful

in that too, to help determine

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whether, when it's time to be literal,

when it's time to be not literal.

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Now, Stephen does the same thing in Acts

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Rod: 7.

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He's going to say 400 years as

well, I think, or something,

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something thereabouts.

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And it just goes to show, like,

our understanding of precision is

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somewhat foreign to the ancient mind.

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Yeah.

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We're demanding precision that

the Bible is saying that's not

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the way that they did things.

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And it doesn't make them any less

than us, it just makes them different.

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And that's an important

distinction for us to understand.

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PJ: Okay, so, quick question here,

because it's in the, again, Review

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mirror, not to keep reaching back to 2024.

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I know some of you want to

leave:

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just finished up revelation.

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Okay.

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So millennial kingdom, part of our.

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Our thousand years, right?

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A thousand years.

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We believe it's a literal

thousand year kingdom.

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So why do we look at 400 years

and not hold that to the same

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standard as we hold a thousand

years in the book of revelation?

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Rod: For two reasons.

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Number one, the scriptures make it

evident through the playing out of the old

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Testament that it was actually 430 years.

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So we could say this is a round number.

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God can't make a mistake because

he says this we're understanding

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that God is just using a number

that would make sense to Abraham.

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It doesn't have to be

precise to be accurate.

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There's a difference between

accuracy and precision.

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They're both true, but

we're making a distinction.

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Secondly, We would also say that

when it comes to the way that we

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understand the thousand years,

repetition is a big part of that.

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If we had several understanding, if we

had several texts that say 400, 400,

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400, then we have to say, okay, maybe

there's something more happening here that

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would cause us to think twice about the

number that we're being presented with.

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But the fact that the thousand

years is understood literally

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on our part is because we take

it from the context itself.

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We think that the best handling

of the context is to say this

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actually is supposed to happen.

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This is an actual thousand years.

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But with that said Is it

a thousand years in a day?

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Is it a thousand years in 14 hours?

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Is it 999 years in 16?

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I think God could use a round

number and still say, does it?

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That's a thousand years, right?

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No one's going to deny that.

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So I don't know.

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That'd be my quick two answers.

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Would you add anything to that?

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PJ: Only that you're still

within the ballpark, 400 to 430.

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And that's what you're driving

at right there at the end there.

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Nobody's going 400 being like,

it's, it's, It's a slavery,

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it's a metaphorical slavery.

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They're going to metaphorically be in

Egypt for, for whoever knows how long,

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but it's a metaphorical 400 years.

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And that's where all joking aside,

I respect our Amil brothers, but

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that's where the difference is.

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It's either, is it, we're going to be

within the ballpark of a thousand years.

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Give or take, to your point.

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Is it a hundred years more?

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Is it fifty years less?

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Is it whatever?

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We're in the ballpark of

a thousand years there.

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Nobody's gonna look at that and be

like, well, it's just metaphorical.

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We're still taking a largely literal

approach to it, though giving

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some leeway there on either end.

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Rod: And understanding it as a,

as literal, this is the challenge

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with people who say that Genesis,

the first 11 chapters, are actually

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meant to be understood as poetry,

primarily, and that you take it, It's

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really hard to draw a clear line.

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Where does the poetry stop and

where does the narrative begin?

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It's You're slicing and dicing in

ways that make me uncomfortable.

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Yeah.

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I think the best way to take it is,

okay, we're going to take this at face

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value and assume that God's trying

to communicate with us in a way that

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is poetic to a degree, but it's not

meant to be understood as poetry.

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At least not all of it by and large.

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PJ: Yeah.

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Yeah, now that said, hear from us

that those that, that hold differing

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views from us are not idiots.

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And, and I think that that's

unfortunately a realm that we

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can fall into as Christians too.

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You often talk about strawmaning and we

can believe that just because somebody

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doesn't believe exactly as we are, clearly

they must be malinformed or dumb or.

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out to defame God or

atheist or anything else.

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And that's not necessarily the case.

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So I think we need to be charitable

as Christians, especially on those

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things that are the non essentials.

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These, these are not things that are

whether or not somebody is a Christian

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and certainly eschatology is we would

put in the non essential category there.

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It's important, but it's not essential

to whether or not somebody is a believer.

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And so we need to be charitable

towards those that hold different

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positions to us on that and love.

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The brothers and sisters in Christ.

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All right.

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Hey, let's pray.

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And then we'll be done with this episode.

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God, we, uh, we do want to be

charitable Christians towards others.

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And we want to be a unified church.

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There's too much at stake for us

not to be able to look at other

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churches and say, we've got to

push back the darkness together.

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So help us to do that.

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Help us to know what the key issues that

the issues worth fighting for are, and

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help us to fight passionately for those.

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And yet even winsomely for those.

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God, far be it that our personality

or our tone should ever cause

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somebody a stumbling block to come

in to listen to and hear the gospel.

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from us because of our vitriol or

our pridefulness or our selfishness.

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We want to be, we want to be those

that, that adorn the gospel with our

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lives in the way that we live, in

the way that we speak, in the way

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that we present it to other people.

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So give us fruitfulness towards that end.

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Look, thank you for the Abrahamic

covenant and the reality that we as

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Gentiles, those of us that aren't

pastorate, that we get to enjoy the

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blessings that God promised Abraham.

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Through the fact that his descent

at Jesus would be the blessing that

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would be extended to all the families

of the earth and that Includes

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us and so we thank you for that.

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We pray these things in Jesus name.

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