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00:00 Introduction and Audience Question
00:26 Pastor PJ's Insight on Genesis 9:1
01:32 Discussion on Satan and Dominion
03:15 New Staff Member Announcement
03:50 Exploring Genesis 12: Abraham's Journey
06:01 Abram's Time in Egypt
08:48 Abram and Lot Separate
10:19 Abram Rescues Lot and Meets Melchizedek
12:47 God's Covenant with Abram
16:42 Understanding Biblical Timeframes
21:11 Concluding Thoughts and Prayer
Hey everybody, welcome back to another
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:Rod: edition of the Daily Bible Podcast.
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:Let's jump on into this.
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:We have a question from
an audience member.
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:Here's the question.
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:You ready for this?
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:It's a doozy.
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:Here's what it says.
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:Genesis 9.
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:1 omits the command to subdue
the earth, as was in Genesis 1.
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:28.
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:Do you find any significance
in that omission?
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:Okay, the field is yours, Pastor PJ.
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:PJ: Answer as you see fit.
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:Yeah, honestly, I don't.
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:necessarily find any significance
in the omission there.
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:I think it's implied, I think
it's implied in the rest of
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:the unfolding of human history.
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:I think that's part of the role of man.
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:Even when we go to Psalm 8, which I
know is a messianic Psalm, but at the
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:same time, I think it has a dual reality
where it's talking about both Christ as
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:the Messiah, but also mankind as well.
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:When he says, what is man that you are
mindful of him, the son of man that
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:you care for him, you've made him a
little lower than the heavenly beings,
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:crowned him with glory and honor.
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:You've given him dominion
over the works of your hands.
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:And so there in, there's I think that
there's a continuation of even the
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:dominion mandate that's given to mankind.
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:You've put all things under his feet,
all sheep and oxen, beasts of the field.
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:So I think it's assumed there.
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:I think it might be a little bit
too much to parse out the lack
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:of its presence there in Genesis.
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:Maybe there is more to that than
meets the eye, but I do think
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:that, that it's assumed and
implied in the instructions there.
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:In fact, it goes on in verse two.
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:It says the fear of you, the dread
of you shall be upon every beast of
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:the earth and upon every bird of the
heavens, upon everything that creeps
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:on the ground, all the fish of the sea.
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:So there's dominion implied there and
what they're going to, the response
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:of the animals to Noah and his
family after the flood, post flood.
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:Rod: Do you make anything of
the fact that scripture calls
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:Satan the God of this world?
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:Did mankind somehow lose his
dominion status, his leadership
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:because of Adam and Eve's
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:PJ: sin?
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:Yeah, we were always going to be vice
rulers, no matter what, vice regents,
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:because even prior to the fall, God is the
ultimate ruler, the ultimate authority.
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:So I think maybe in that sense,
the vice regency now is for the
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:unbeliever a la Ephesians chapter
two, they are vice regents of Satan.
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:They're exercising dominion on Satan's
behalf over God's creation in a
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:way that is, is broken and marring
creation even further as believers.
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:I think we are being restored.
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:And, and sanctified such that we
would have an opportunity to, to
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:exercise dominion more akin to what
his original design was for us.
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:But we won't fully realize that
until the new earth, when, when he
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:is reigning and we are all in our
glorified bodies with him at that point.
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:Rod: And practically speaking, as you
look at the unfolding of human history
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:and redemptive history, you still see
man operating with that same mindset.
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:We're taking dominion.
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:We're continuing to build and to
operate as God designed us to.
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:We're inventing new things.
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:We're just talking about AI yesterday.
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:Man is still taking dominion over.
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:The creation, even the digital creation
that we're trying to navigate now.
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:So there's so many areas where
you still see the effect of God
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:command, even if you don't see.
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:That effect in perfect harmony
with the way God designed it.
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:So there's always going to be sin.
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:There's always going to be fallenness
in Genesis chapter three, where
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:you have the cursing of the ground.
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:God doesn't tell Adam
to stop taking dominion.
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:He just says, it's going to be much
harder now that the dominion mandate,
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:I think is still in effect as well.
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:Although to the point of our writer here.
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:I do think there is something to be said
about Jesus taking ultimate dominion.
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:I think there is something to be
said about him being the last Adam.
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:So there is something about that,
although I don't think it absolutely
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:negates man's call to be part
of that dominion mandate still.
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:Yeah, I would agree.
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:I would agree for
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:PJ: sure.
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:Hey, we have a new staff
member in the office.
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:We haven't, I don't think
mentioned that on the podcast,
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:but it's something worth noting.
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:Sure.
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:Allie Trinidad is here officially as
our Kidsmen Administrative Assistant.
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:Cause AT1 is Angelo, her husband.
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:That's right.
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and it's been good and it's
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:We need more space like yesterday.
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:But we're glad and excited for that.
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:And I know Mark's looking forward
to having her on the team.
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:Yeah, he's been praying
for that for a long time.
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:So we're glad we could
finally get rolling.
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:I feel like we're growing quick, man.
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:Hey, let's jump into our text for the day.
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:Genesis 12.
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:Something that I was noticing as I was
reading through Genesis 12 through 15
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:this time is just the movement of Abraham.
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:I don't know that there's anything
there, but in the realm of theology,
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:when you write a PhD, you have to
find something super nuanced to write
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:on that nobody else has written on.
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:I wonder if there's something
to the movements of Abraham.
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:Why he moves from one place to the other.
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:And it starts even right away in Genesis
chapter 12, God commands him to go.
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:And this command to go is notice to
go from your country, your kindred,
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:your father's house to the land.
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:I will show you some of the
people that are listening to this.
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:You guys.
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:Went from California, you went
from your home and your family and
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:your work and everything else to
come on the church plant with us.
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:And so, you know a little bit about
what's what he's dealing with here.
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:But back in this time, man,
the family was everything.
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:Your family, your lineage,
your culture, your land.
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:It was everything.
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:And now God is calling
Abraham to go away from that.
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:And to go to this promised land, Abram at
this point, that's worth note, but he's
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:not going to be Abraham until much later.
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:And so God commands him to
go and look at verse four.
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:So Abraham went, but in between there
in verse three, an important verse
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:here, he says, I'm going to bless you.
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:And I'm going to bless all the nations.
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:All the families of the earth
will be blessed through you.
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:So this is what Paul refers to in
Galatians chapter three as the gospel.
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:He says, God preached the
gospel beforehand to Abraham
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:saying, and you will, all the
families of the earth be blessed.
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:And the way that's going to happen is
the descendant of Abraham that we know
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:Jesus, Jesus is going to be the one
that's going to descend from Abraham
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:through his line, through the son of the
promise, Isaac, we'll get to that later.
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:And he's going to be the one
that's going to bring blessing
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:to all the families of the earth.
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:So pretty cool there that Paul refers
to Genesis 12, three and calls that the
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:gospel in the book of Galatians, Abraham
comes to a couple of different locations.
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:The first one that he comes to is Shechem.
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:Shechem is going to be an important
place in the old Testament.
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:It's going to be the place where
Joseph's bones are laid to rest.
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:It's going to also be the eventual
capital city of the Northern kingdom.
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:It's a place of spiritual
significance for the people there.
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:And it starts here with Abraham
venturing there, Abram venturing there.
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:Then it comes to Bethel and Bethel
is the second most mentioned city in
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:the Old Testament behind Jerusalem.
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:Another sacred place, significant
place here associated with, with
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:Abraham and later with Jacob.
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:This is the place where Jacob has
the dream of the angels ascending
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:and descending upon the ladder.
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:So this is a significant location
in Israel's history as well.
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:Bethel means house of God.
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:And so this is the calling of Abraham
and the initial promise of blessing
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:to Abraham here as Genesis 12 opens.
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:Verses 10 through 20 then a famine shows
up in the land and Abraham takes off and
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:Abraham goes down with his wife Sarai now
Eventually, we will know her as Sarah,
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:but right now she is Sarai and they flee
to Egypt and while they're there Yeah,
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:this is where Abram takes on a little
bit at less of a shiny veneer for us
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:Because Abram tells his wife Sarai to
tell the king there that she's his sister.
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:And the reason is to
preserve Abram's life.
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:So think about it.
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:God has just told Abram, go to this land.
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:I'm going to give it to you.
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:I'm going to bless all the
families there through you.
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:And you're going to be a
blessing to other people.
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:Abram goes down to Egypt and immediately
he lacks his trust in his faith and his
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:confidence in God and tells Sarai his wife
to lie and tell the king there that she is
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:his sister in order to preserve his life.
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:And what he ends up doing is putting his
wife's life in grave danger, or at least
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:her moral character in significant danger.
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:Rod: Yeah, and it gets worse,
because this happens more than once.
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:This is not the first and last
time that Abraham's gonna do this.
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:There's one more event, and then there's
one more that his son's gonna do.
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:But on top of this, what you have, okay,
so someone, I read this, someone said,
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:no one told Abraham not to do this.
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:This wasn't forbidden by God, he didn't
command it either, so it wasn't like God
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:was telling him to go do this, but this
isn't necessarily a wrong thing to do.
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:But we can say, based on the context
here, this wasn't a good thing.
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:The fact that he's putting his wife
on the line instead of saying, this is
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:my, this is my bride, please give us
safe passage, it does show a lack of
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:faith and a lack of character there.
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:But notice, this is a bad scene
on, on, on Abraham's life.
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:This is not an act of faith, this
is certainly an act of, Human
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:ingenuity, which ends up hurting him.
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:And I guess this is also worth noting too.
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:This is likely when he picks up Hagar
and she's going to play a pretty
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:prominent role in the coming chapters.
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:A little role.
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:PJ: Egypt is such a thorn in
the side of Israel, right?
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:And from the
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:Rod: very beginning,
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:PJ: and here you see it again.
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:And so many times Israel looks
to Egypt for deliverance.
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:Israel looks to Egypt for what
she should have trusted God for.
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:And here you see Abraham who becomes
the father of, of Jacob, who is then
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:renamed Israel and produces the 12
tribes that the grandfather, rather.
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:Here you have Abram fleeing to Egypt.
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:Yeah.
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:Was he told not to do it?
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:No, but was he told by God, Hey, this is
the promised land that I'll be giving you.
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:And I'm going to, I'm
going to bless you here.
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:I think there's a lot between the
lines of where Abraham or Abram
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:failed to trust in God in this.
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:I don't know that we can say it was even
a good move for him to leave the promised
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:land and go down to Egypt to begin
with in the midst of the famine, rather
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:than to turn to the Lord and trust and
say, okay, God, I'm going to trust you.
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:I'm here.
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:You told me to go here.
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:I am.
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:And here's this famine,
which, what you got for me.
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:That's gonna fix that later.
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:He's gonna tell him not to go to Egypt.
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:Rod: Yeah, he's
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:PJ: gonna do not go Yeah, I'll give you
a pass on the first one and I got you
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:out of danger, but don't do that again
I mean in the chronological plane is
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:so good because we it wasn't long ago
If you were with us last year that we
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:were reading about even towards the
end of Israel's history in the Northern
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:Kingdom especially trusting in Egypt and
Judah trusting in Egypt as Babylon was
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:coming against her and everything else
Egypt is going to be a problem and is a
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:problem right off the bat right here too.
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:Genesis, yeah, chapter 20,
that's the situation there.
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:So Genesis 13, then we find a situation
where Abram, who is with his, his
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:nephew, Lot, comes back up and they find
that there's not enough prairie land.
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:There's not enough pasture
land for their flocks.
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:And with that being the case, Abram and
Lot end up separating and Lot is going
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:to make a decision that's going to have
reverberating effects as we'll find
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:out in a few days here, because he's
going to go down to the land of Sodom.
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:Which he views as a land that
is beautiful and a land that
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:can provide for his flocks.
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:And he's going to go down there.
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:And so Abram and Lot
in chapter 13 separate.
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:And God then promises to Abram in this
context, the land that Abraham could see.
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:He says, look around you, see everything
in front of you and understand.
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:I'm going to give you this land.
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:And also I'm going to give you descendants
as numerous as the dust on the earth.
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:And so God is developing what is going
to be the Abrahamic covenant slowly,
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:but surely from Genesis 12, all the way,
ultimately through Genesis chapter 15,
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:which we'll get to in a moment here.
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:Is Genesis
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:Rod: 12, the beginning of the Abrahamic
covenant, or is, what'd you say?
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:Because he says here, I will
make you a great nation.
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:I'll bless you.
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:I'll make your name great so
that you'll be a blessing.
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:And I'll bless those who bless you.
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:And him who dishonors you, I'll curse.
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:And in you, all the families
of the earth shall be blessed.
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:Some of the language that we even use
to describe the Abrahamic covenant
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:is here and not in Genesis 15.
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:Talk about land, seed, and blessing.
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:The blessing is listed here.
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:We don't see that in chapter 15.
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:So is this the Abrahamic covenant or
is Genesis 15 the Abrahamic covenants?
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:Are both?
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:Is it multiple places?
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:Yes.
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:PJ: Okay.
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:I think it's being
developed this whole time.
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:I think it's everything.
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:I think when we get to 15 and
the covenant language is used,
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:I think it's Formally enacted.
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:It's formally enacted, but it's reaching
back to grab everything that God has
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:promised to Abraham up until that point.
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:PJ: Genesis 14 then, verses 1 through
16, Lot gets himself in some trouble, or
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:at least some trouble finds Lot, which
seems to, again, happen quite often, and
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:these kings in this Canaanite conflict
come against Sodom, and there's battles
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:that take place, and In the course of
the fighting, Lot is taken captive, and
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:Abram finds out about it, and Abram goes
after Lot, and ends up rescuing Lot.
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:And so this points to some of Abram's
military prowess, that Abram was
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:a leader, Abram was a stout guy.
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:And so he rescues Lot.
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:From this is one of those times where
if we had like a YouTube recap, like
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be interesting to see what was that?
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:Like, was it pretty bloody?
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:Yeah, I bet so too.
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:But was Abraham in the back,
like commanding the troops
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:or was Abraham up front?
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:Was it like they escaped
by the skin of their teeth?
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:What, what happened there?
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:Anyways, creativity,
you can think about it.
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:Chapter 14, then verses 17 through 24, uh,
Abram meets a new guy named Melchizedek.
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:Now, again, Melchizedek is going to come
into play in the New Testament, in the
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:book of Hebrews, which we covered in,
uh, not too long ago in our daily Bible
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:reading last year, Melchizedek is called
the king of Salem being the word for
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:peace, and so he's the king of peace.
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:Melchizedek, his name means
king of righteousness.
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:So he is both the king of
righteousness and the king of peace.
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:And he is, we learn here, a
priest King and Abram comes
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:to him and he blesses Abram.
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:Now the writer of Hebrews is going
to make the argument that the
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:superior blesses the inferior.
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:And so here we see something about
Melchizedek that Melchizedek is
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:greater than Abram was, and that's
significant because we're in the
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:context of God making these outlandish
and amazing promises to Abram.
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:And here comes a guy
that's greater than Abram.
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:And Abram even recognizes that
by paying him a tenth, giving him
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:a tithe against something that
the inferior did to the superior.
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:Melchizedek, we don't believe,
is the pre incarnate Christ.
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:We don't believe that Melchizedek is
an eternal being, although it says
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:that he didn't have father or mother.
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:I think that refers more
to his mysterious origins.
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:People didn't really
know where he came from.
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:But he is a unique character,
certainly, and he shows up here.
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:In the interaction here with Abram, and
he will also be the one that is the head,
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:who is the head priest after whose line
is the line of Christ, that Jesus is of
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:the priestly line of Melchizedek, not as
we're going to see later of Levi or Aaron.
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:Rod: questions about Melchizedek
that we just, we don't know.
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:We don't know.
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:We, there's so many questions,
marks, question marks and ideas,
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:who knows where he comes from?
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:Clearly God had ordained him
to be there at just the right
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:And he, Jesus is now a priest according
to, or after the order of Melchizedek.
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:So this is a legitimate figure that
God puts there and where does he come
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:PJ: from?
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:Who is he?
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:We don't know.
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:Chapter 15, then God shows up
again, initiates contact with
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:Abraham here and promises him
descendants, including an heir.
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:Is it something again, that just
is, is jumping out probably just the
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:way that we've been reading things.
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:Thinking back to, uh, Zechariah,
when the angel showed up to
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:Zechariah and said, Hey, Zechariah,
your wife is going to have a baby.
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:And he says, how's this going to be?
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:And then Zechariah is going to be mute.
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:Right?
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:And then the angel shows up to Mary
and says, Hey, Mary, you're going
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:to have a baby by the Holy Spirit.
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:And Mary says, how's this going to be?
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:Third Eye blind.
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:Rod: That's third eye blind, right?
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:Is it?
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:I don't Matchbox third
eye one of those guys.
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:It, I think it's third line.
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:How's it gonna be if you know that song?
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:Thank you.
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:Yeah.
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:If you don't and you're
just totally unsure
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:PJ: of what we're talking about
right now, don't sweat it.
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:This is the googly Yeah.
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:That you come for.
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:And if you know that
song, take some ibuprofen.
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:'cause your joints probably
hurt right now . That's true.
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:But God shows up to Abram and says,
Abram, you're gonna have a son.
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:And Abram questions God and, and
God is kind to respond and say,
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:this is how it's gonna happen
and this is what's gonna happen.
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:And.
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:Yeah, also know that, that
it's going to be a rocky road.
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:They're going to go down to Egypt.
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:There's Egypt again.
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:They're going to be in captivity
in Egypt for 400 years.
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:And then they're going to come
back and take the promised land.
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:When the iniquity of the
Amorites had been completed.
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:So Pastor Rod, why does he
single out the Amorites here?
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:When there were a lot of other ites in
the area that were also rebellious, that
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:God's people were going to be commanded
to drive out of the promised land.
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:Rod: Because the Amorites
were the ones that God said
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:are, Actually, you know what?
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:I take that back.
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:I don't know how you're
bringing them in particular.
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:I don't know.
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:I don't think I know where
you're going with that.
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:Why don't you answer that?
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:PJ: I think it's, I'm bringing
them up because that's who
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:God's who's listed here, right?
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:Rod: Their evil had not yet
been re have reached a level,
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:but what else do you intend to?
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:PJ: I think that's, that should
cause us to say, why does he,
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:why does he single them out?
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:Why not talk about the other ites,
the Hittites and the Jebusites
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:and the other ites that are there.
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:And the best answer that I found
for this is that it's serving as
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:that synecdoche for the entirety
of the inhabitants of the land.
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:All right.
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:That this is the Canaanites in general.
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:And he's singling the Amorites out
as the figurehead for all of them.
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:Rod: Yeah.
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:Perhaps they were the largest clan
and so they're all encompassing.
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:Yes, the whole answer is that God does
intend for them to take the land, which
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:would include all the Yites, of whom
the Amorites are only part of them.
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:I think it's important
too, verse 6 is huge.
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:This is the whole enchilada when it
comes to the way that we understand
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:the gospel to function in the life
of even the New Testament believer.
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:Abraham is saved in the
same way we're saved.
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:Look at verse six, he believed that
the Lord and he counted it to him.
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:The Lord counted it to
Abraham as righteousness.
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:And that's what the new Testament
gospel does for us as well.
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:We believe in his promise to save us
from our sin, to be our substitutionary
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:atonement, and God counts that to us.
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:He, he applies that to our accounts as
our righteousness, our justification.
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:This is a sweet verse.
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:This is worth
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:PJ: memorizing.
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:Genesis 15, six clutch.
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:Yeah, absolutely.
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:I would agree with you on that.
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:And then the chapter ends with
the Abrahamic covenant, and
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:this is where it's the covenant
language that's used specifically.
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:And this is verse 18, on that day,
the Lord made a covenant with Abraham.
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:And there's this interesting scene
where the animals are brought and
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:they're, they're cut open, which is
what you would do with a covenant.
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:The word for covenant, I believe
it's the Hebrew barit means to cut.
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two parties making the covenant would walk
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had been cut, that had been sacrificed.
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two parties were saying, hey, if one of
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up the way these animals have ended up.
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:And what's interesting
here is Abraham's asleep.
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passing between the animals.
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as to the significance there, but the way
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covenant is a unilateral covenant meaning
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:I'm promising to do this for you That
this is an unconditional, is another way
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:And that's why we would say it
still remains in effect today.
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:The Mosaic covenant has been
fulfilled in Christ, but the
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:Abrahamic covenant, the promises of
the Abrahamic covenant still remain.
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our eschatology and our trust that
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:man, that land of promise has yet
to be finally fulfilled for Israel.
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:That's coming in the future with
the new Jerusalem, with, with the
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:reconciling of God's people, the
return of God's people together.
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:Abrahamic covenant, unilateral
covenant God makes with Abraham.
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Jew and Gentile alike.
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:Rod: One more note here.
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:If I may, verse 13 says that
the, that Abraham's people would
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:Now we could throw a flag on the play
and say that's not technically true.
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:It was 430 years.
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:But what this tells me is that
God is perfectly fine operating
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:He, He uses the round number.
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:400 years.
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:He could have said 430 years
and 27 days and 14 hours and
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:He doesn't do that.
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:He, He condescends to humanity
by using language that we would
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:all say, okay, yes, that's true.
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:So I guess I bring that up only to
point out to the fact that God is
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:condescending to us by speaking to
us the way that we would understand.
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:It doesn't mean that everything
that is said in the Bible is meant
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:to be precisely understood as
exactly the thing that we're saying.
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:When we say we take the Bible literally,
it doesn't mean we, we take it to mean
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:every single jot and tittle is meant
to be understood in a wooden way.
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:We take it to be absolute in
the way that it presents itself.
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:So if it's presenting as poetry,
we take it as absolute poetry.
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:It's truth.
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:Our job is to figure out what he's
trying to say with that truth.
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:If we're reading narrative,
we're taking that as truth.
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:A round number, we take it to be a
round number and that God is not being
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:inaccurate by saying it's 400 verses 430.
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:PJ: Yeah, context is, is so helpful
in that too, to help determine
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:whether, when it's time to be literal,
when it's time to be not literal.
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:Rod: 7.
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:He's going to say 400 years as
well, I think, or something,
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:And it just goes to show, like,
our understanding of precision is
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:somewhat foreign to the ancient mind.
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:We're demanding precision that
the Bible is saying that's not
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:the way that they did things.
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:And it doesn't make them any less
than us, it just makes them different.
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distinction for us to understand.
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:PJ: Okay, so, quick question here,
because it's in the, again, Review
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:mirror, not to keep reaching back to 2024.
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:I know some of you want to
leave:
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:just finished up revelation.
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:Okay.
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:So millennial kingdom, part of our.
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:Our thousand years, right?
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:We believe it's a literal
thousand year kingdom.
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:So why do we look at 400 years
and not hold that to the same
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years in the book of revelation?
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:Rod: For two reasons.
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:Number one, the scriptures make it
evident through the playing out of the old
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:Testament that it was actually 430 years.
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:So we could say this is a round number.
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:God can't make a mistake because
he says this we're understanding
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:that God is just using a number
that would make sense to Abraham.
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:It doesn't have to be
precise to be accurate.
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:There's a difference between
accuracy and precision.
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:They're both true, but
we're making a distinction.
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:Secondly, We would also say that
when it comes to the way that we
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:understand the thousand years,
repetition is a big part of that.
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:If we had several understanding, if we
had several texts that say 400, 400,
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:400, then we have to say, okay, maybe
there's something more happening here that
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:would cause us to think twice about the
number that we're being presented with.
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:But the fact that the thousand
years is understood literally
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:on our part is because we take
it from the context itself.
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:We think that the best handling
of the context is to say this
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:actually is supposed to happen.
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:This is an actual thousand years.
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:But with that said Is it
a thousand years in a day?
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:Is it a thousand years in 14 hours?
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:Is it 999 years in 16?
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:I don't know.
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:I don't know.
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:I think God could use a round
number and still say, does it?
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:That's a thousand years, right?
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:No one's going to deny that.
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:So I don't know.
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:That'd be my quick two answers.
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:Would you add anything to that?
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:PJ: Only that you're still
within the ballpark, 400 to 430.
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:And that's what you're driving
at right there at the end there.
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:Nobody's going 400 being like,
it's, it's, It's a slavery,
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:it's a metaphorical slavery.
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:They're going to metaphorically be in
Egypt for, for whoever knows how long,
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:but it's a metaphorical 400 years.
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:And that's where all joking aside,
I respect our Amil brothers, but
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:that's where the difference is.
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:It's either, is it, we're going to be
within the ballpark of a thousand years.
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:Give or take, to your point.
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:Is it a hundred years more?
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:Is it fifty years less?
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:Is it whatever?
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:We're in the ballpark of
a thousand years there.
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:Nobody's gonna look at that and be
like, well, it's just metaphorical.
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:We're still taking a largely literal
approach to it, though giving
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:some leeway there on either end.
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:Rod: And understanding it as a,
as literal, this is the challenge
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:with people who say that Genesis,
the first 11 chapters, are actually
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:meant to be understood as poetry,
primarily, and that you take it, It's
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:really hard to draw a clear line.
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:Where does the poetry stop and
where does the narrative begin?
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:It's You're slicing and dicing in
ways that make me uncomfortable.
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:Yeah.
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:I think the best way to take it is,
okay, we're going to take this at face
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:value and assume that God's trying
to communicate with us in a way that
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:is poetic to a degree, but it's not
meant to be understood as poetry.
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:At least not all of it by and large.
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:PJ: Yeah.
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:Yeah, now that said, hear from us
that those that, that hold differing
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:views from us are not idiots.
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:And, and I think that that's
unfortunately a realm that we
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:can fall into as Christians too.
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:You often talk about strawmaning and we
can believe that just because somebody
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:doesn't believe exactly as we are, clearly
they must be malinformed or dumb or.
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:out to defame God or
atheist or anything else.
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:And that's not necessarily the case.
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:So I think we need to be charitable
as Christians, especially on those
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:things that are the non essentials.
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:These, these are not things that are
whether or not somebody is a Christian
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:and certainly eschatology is we would
put in the non essential category there.
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:It's important, but it's not essential
to whether or not somebody is a believer.
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:And so we need to be charitable
towards those that hold different
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:positions to us on that and love.
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:The brothers and sisters in Christ.
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:All right.
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:Hey, let's pray.
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:And then we'll be done with this episode.
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:God, we, uh, we do want to be
charitable Christians towards others.
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:And we want to be a unified church.
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:There's too much at stake for us
not to be able to look at other
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:churches and say, we've got to
push back the darkness together.
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:So help us to do that.
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:Help us to know what the key issues that
the issues worth fighting for are, and
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:help us to fight passionately for those.
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:And yet even winsomely for those.
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:God, far be it that our personality
or our tone should ever cause
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:somebody a stumbling block to come
in to listen to and hear the gospel.
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:from us because of our vitriol or
our pridefulness or our selfishness.
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:We want to be, we want to be those
that, that adorn the gospel with our
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:lives in the way that we live, in
the way that we speak, in the way
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:that we present it to other people.
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:So give us fruitfulness towards that end.
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:Look, thank you for the Abrahamic
covenant and the reality that we as
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:Gentiles, those of us that aren't
pastorate, that we get to enjoy the
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:blessings that God promised Abraham.
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:Through the fact that his descent
at Jesus would be the blessing that
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:would be extended to all the families
of the earth and that Includes
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:us and so we thank you for that.
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:We pray these things in Jesus name.
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:Amen Amen, keep her in your Bibles
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