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In this inspiring episode of the Black Executive Perspective podcast, hosts Tony Tidbit and Chris P. Reed welcome Valeria Howard Cunningham, the president, and owner of the Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo. Valeria shares the journey of the world's only African American touring rodeo led by a black woman, discussing its challenging beginnings, her decision to continue its legacy, and the impactful team of black women who support her. She reflects on the resistance faced in a predominantly white and male-dominated industry, and the important community initiatives driven by the BPIR Foundation. Valeria emphasizes the importance of perseverance, community support, and the continuous effort to give back through educational retreats, wellness programs, scholarships, and more. The episode also highlights notable achievements such as significant prize money in rodeo competitions, partnerships with prominent organizations, and international recognition. Listeners are encouraged to adopt the LESS (Learn, Empathy, Share, Stop) approach to reduce discrimination and promote understanding.
00:00: Introduction and Host Welcome
01:17: Guest Introduction: Valeria Howard Cunningham
02:22: Valeria's Background and Rodeo Beginnings
04:32: Challenges and Achievements in the Rodeo
06:09: The Origins of the Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo
14:55: Overcoming Resistance and Building the Rodeo
25:11: Support and Community Impact
34:53: Reflecting on Achievements and Celebrations
37:30: Challenges and Perseverance in the Rodeo World
39:10: Community Contributions and Educational Initiatives
55:22: Partnerships and Expanding the Rodeo's Reach
59:22: Final Thoughts and Advice for the Next Generation
01:07:45: Call to Action: LESS - Learn, Empathize, Share, Stop
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Valeria Howard Cunningham: You can
accomplish whatever you want to
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:accomplish, and I am especially,
uh, biased to young women because
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:we carry a lot of weight, um,
or heavy burdens, I should say.
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:Because you're black, you're a woman,
and then you tried the rodeo, you
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:know, so don't let anybody tell
you what you can or cannot do.
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:Tony Tidbit: We'll discuss race and how it
plays a factor and how we didn't even talk
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:about this topic because we were afraid.
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:BEP Narrator: A Black
Executive Perspective.
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:Tony Tidbit: Welcome to a Black Executive
Perspective podcast, a safe space where
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:we discuss all matters related to race.
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:Especially raised in corporate America.
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:I'm your host, Tony Tidbit.
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:Chris P. Reed: And I'm
your co host, Chris P.
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:Reed.
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:We want to start off like we most,
like we always do, by shouting out
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:our partners at Code M Magazine.
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:Code M Magazine, where their
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:Tony Tidbit: Exactly.
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:Make sure you check them out.
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:And check out today We have Valeria
Howard Cunningham, president and owner
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:of the Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo,
the world's only African American
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:touring rodeo led by a black woman.
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:Valeria will discuss the rodeo's
challenging beginnings, her decision
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:to continue its legacy, and the
impactful team of black women.
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:We're also exploring a significant
milestone since her leadership began
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:in 2015 and the community initiatives
driven by the Black, excuse me,
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:driven by BPIR Foundation, including
educational retreats, wellness
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:programs, and how her team uses rodeo
to foster community empowerment.
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:And cultural perseverance,
uh, persuasion, preservation.
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:Chris P. Reed: And before we go
into that, I want to dig a little
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:bit further into the person that
we'll be engaged with today.
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:So let me just give you a little
more information about her.
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:Um, and then she'll be able to
color that in with some, some,
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:uh, notes and stories, I'm sure.
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:But Valeria Howard Cunningham is
the owner and president of the
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:Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo,
the world's only African American
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:touring, uh, traveling rodeo.
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:Additionally, she leads the Bill
Pickett Memorial Scholarship Fund.
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:Before dedicating herself fully to the
rodeo, she was a senior vice president.
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:A U.
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:S.
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:I.
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:Insurance Corporation, one of the
largest insurance brokerage firms
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:in the United States for leaders.
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:Leadership of the rodeo began in 2015
after the passing of her husband, the
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:rodeo's founder moved by the community,
the community's dedication to the event.
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:She took on the role to preserve and
enhance its legacy under her guidance.
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:The rodeo has reached new heights.
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:It's completely thriving, including
the partnerships with prominent rodeo
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:boards, a special event in Las Vegas,
and a live broadcast on national TV,
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:including a historic broadcast on
Juneteenth Valeria is committed to the
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:transfer to transforming the rodeo into
a platform that showcases the resilience.
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:And the talent of black
women changing the face of
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:traditionally male dominated sport.
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:She believes in the power of community
to drive the organization forward,
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:celebrating the impact and influence
of black women and blacks in the rodeo.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham, welcome to
a black executive perspective podcast.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: Thank you.
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:I am honored to be with
you gentlemen today.
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:Chris P. Reed: Thank you so much So
let's start off by tell us a little
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:bit about where you are currently
and where your family is and and
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:uh, What's going on currently?
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: Well, I
am currently in Atlanta, Georgia.
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:Okay.
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:Which is where I live now.
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:I moved from Denver, Colorado, to Atlanta.
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:Okay.
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:After Covid.
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:Okay.
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:Uh, my family is in California.
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:Okay.
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:Uh, my husband, my now husband's
family is also in California.
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:Okay.
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:Um, but his brothers and sisters are.
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:Are out here in Georgia and my,
uh, family, some of my family
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:is in Columbia, South Carolina.
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:So we felt Atlanta was kind of.
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:You know, close to everybody,
we could share each other,
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:Chris P. Reed: right?
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:Absolutely.
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:I love
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:Tony Tidbit: it.
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:I love it.
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:I love it.
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:And so Valeria, we're excited.
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:Number one, we're honored
for you to be here.
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:I mean, as Chris went through your
bio, um, you have accomplished a
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:lot more importantly, you've opened
up so many doors in the industry of
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:rodeo, which we're going to dive into.
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:And look, you've been on, um,
a lot of publications, you've
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:done a lot of podcasts, Chris
talked about the television show.
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:So you're in, you know, people
are looking to chat with you.
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:You've chatted on a lot of platforms.
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:So our question is, why did you want to
come on a Black Executive Perspective
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:podcast to discuss this topic?
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: You know,
anytime I have an opportunity to share
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:with our community about our journey
and why it's important, and mainly to
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:encourage somebody else that's listening,
I want to take that opportunity.
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:And so I thank you guys for creating
the, um, venue that you've created
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:and allowing me to participate today.
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:Uh, because, you know, I
don't get hung up on titles.
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:I get hung up on how we can help
each other and lift each other up.
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:Tony Tidbit: Well I, listen,
I love that and if everybody
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:had that type of attitude.
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:There'll be a lot of uplifting going on.
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:Right.
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:That's But you, you have uplifted a lot.
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:So are you ready to talk about it?
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:'cause we are ready to dive into
your story and all the things.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: Let's go.
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:I'm always ready to talk.
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:Tony Tidbit: Alright, let's talk about it.
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:Chris P. Reed: You know what, I think what
we should start is at the beginning and
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:um, that's always the best place to start.
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:Tell us, um, how you.
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:found out about this or how you became,
uh, understanding of Bill Pickett
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:and, um, the rodeo as a whole, because
from what it sounds like, you didn't
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:grow up in the, the Western kind of,
you know, frontier lifestyle, I mean,
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:by your accent and everything else.
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:I mean, it just seems a little different.
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:So it's kind of offsetting.
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:I would love to know the origins of
the Bill Pickett invitational rodeo.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: Absolutely.
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:It's a kind of funny story.
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:Um, I was actually traveling back from
Columbia to Denver, Colorado, uh, when
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:I met, um, the founder of the Bill
Pickett Invitational Rodeo, Lu Vason
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:and, um, He, we were on an airplane and
we were chatting and he asked me about
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:a rodeo and I didn't know what a rodeo
was, so I was quite embarrassed about
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:that, um, but anyway, he told me what
he was doing, um, we started dating and
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:as we started dating, he invited me to
his first rodeo, which was in August.
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:Of 1984 However, I had
tickets to michael jackson.
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:Um, so i'm afraid to tell
you that michael won out
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:Tony Tidbit: And
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: I missed the
first real Bill Pickett invitational
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:rodeo however after that, um, I
did as we dated more and I started
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:getting uh acclimated To what he was
doing You Um, I was exposed to rodeo.
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:Believe me, I had gone back
and done the research so I
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:knew what a rodeo was by then.
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:Uh, but I got acclimated and one of
the things that stood out to me is that
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:the incredible talent that it takes for
these contestants to do what they do.
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:Um, you know, and I was
kind of like everybody else.
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:You never saw black cowboys or cowgirls
on the television or movie theaters.
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:Um, you didn't read about
them in the history books.
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:So, I was quite impressed to
see that there were so many
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:black cowboys and cowgirls.
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:And so let me back up just a little bit.
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:Um, Lu Vason, who is the founder, had gone
to a rodeo in:
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:um, to Cheyenne Frontier Gates, and it
is called the Grandfather of Rodeos.
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:And when he went there, he noticed that he
did not see anybody that looked like him.
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:So he came back and did his research.
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:Um, he found in his research that
there were thousands of black cowboys
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:and cowgirls across the country, but
they were not given the opportunity
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:to perform on certain platforms.
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:He met with a lot of different, um,
black historians, like Paul Stewart,
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:at the, uh, African American Heritage,
um, Rodeo in Denver, Colorado.
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:And just learned everything he could about
blacks in the development of the West.
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:Uh, he reached out to other people
across the country, stock contractors,
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:black stock contractors, to learn more.
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:And after he, uh, was doing,
as he was doing his research,
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:he said, You know what?
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:This story needs to be told.
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:I am going to create an African
American Rodeo Association, and I am
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:going to allow that association to
educate people, entertain people, and,
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:um, he stu he did that by creating
the Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo.
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:Now, when he started the first rodeo,
it was not called Bill Pickett.
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:It was just called the Black Rodeo.
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:And doing his research He learned
about who Bill Pickett was, and he
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:reached out to the Pickett family and
asked if he could name the rodeo, uh,
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:after Bill Pickett, because the world
needed to know who Bill Pickett was.
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:And the family graciously agreed
and gave permission, and ever since
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:then, um, the rodeo has been called
the Bill Pickett Invitational.
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:So that gives you a little
history about how it started,
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:Chris P. Reed: right?
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:Let me say something that I think may
have escaped you and maybe it hasn't
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:but you talked about you learning of a
rodeo doing your research and you talked
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:about he Learning going to Cheyenne
Wyoming and seeing the rodeo and then
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:doing his research for all of our
younger viewers There was no internet.
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:He didn't Google that he
had to go read up on that.
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:And it was painstaking for you to come
back in 84 and learn about something.
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:It wasn't just, you get on your phone
and you type in a word and it gives
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:you everything people's opinions of.
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:You know, this thing is, you really
had to, you really liked this man.
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:So, you know, you had
to go and do the work.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham:
You had to go to the library.
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:Chris P. Reed: You had to go to the
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:Tony Tidbit: libraries, encyclopedias
that are 20 years old, right?
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:By the time you get them.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: You,
you had to do your research
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:and you are absolutely correct.
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:You know, we forget about the old days
where things were not at our fingertips
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:You had to work to educate yourself.
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:It did not come easy.
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:You had to talk to people.
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:You had to seek people out.
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:You had to read books.
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:You had to, um, spend time in a life.
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:Um, yeah, that's what it was all about.
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:But we were in that generation About
um, maybe educating ourselves about
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:things that we didn't know about
and not, and I am very thankful that
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:you couldn't, you didn't have this,
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:Tony Tidbit: right, right,
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: push a button
and somebody tells you what to do.
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:What you ought to think are what maybe
you ought to know, um, and then spending
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:time with the people in the rodeo,
learning, hearing their stories, learning
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:what they were about their struggles,
um, it just made you appreciate.
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:Uh, these black cowboys and cowgirls
and want to tell their stories, want to
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:provide them a platform, uh, like no other
platform that they had been provided.
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:Right.
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:And that was one of Lu's, um, main
objectives is to create a platform
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:that they had never been on.
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:Now, they did a lot of backyard rodeos.
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:You know, but that's backyard.
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:He wanted them to go into venues and
buildings and that they've never been in
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:and open doors for them to, um, progress
to the next level of the association.
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:I can tell you at the beginning,
we were like a feeder ground.
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:People would come and rodeo with
our, um, association, learn.
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:Uh, their skills or, you know, um,
just get better at what they're doing.
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:And then they would leave us and
go to the white rodeo associations.
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:And that's good.
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:That wasn't a bad thing.
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:That was a great thing because then
we're introducing black cowboys and
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:cowgirls to a much larger audience.
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:Tony Tidbit: Right.
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:Right.
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:You know, it's interesting because, again.
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:When we talk about what your husband
started, your, your former husband,
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:um, and you talked about how it's
important, um, to have a platform to
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:share the stories that the Cowboys
and Cowgirls was going through.
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:I would love for you to share the
story of what you guys were going
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:through in terms of the resistance.
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:That you dealt with, because here's the
thing now, I've been to Cheyenne, Wyoming,
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:okay, and I, I, I just sit here and think,
the courage, that when he said he went
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:to a rodeo in Cheyenne and he didn't see
anybody look like him, I'm just amazed
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:that he even went.
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:Tony Tidbit: Okay.
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:And then the resistance of trying to start
something, that history has erased, right?
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:I don't think a lot of people who
were coming to those rodeos knew about
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:the black cowboys and, and people
before them and the buffalo soldiers.
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:And then the Mexicans and the Native
Americans who actually were the,
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:at the forefront when it came to
lassoing and, and all the things
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:that you do from a rodeo standpoint.
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:So now, You're trying to break in
to an industry that's a hundred
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:percent white, I would imagine.
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:Okay.
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:And more importantly, you want
to elevate the people whose
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:voices are being silenced.
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:Okay.
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:And then to be able to do
that, where there's nothing
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:you could look at as a guide.
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:To say, this is the
handbook of how to do it.
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:Talk to us a little about, because.
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:The average person dealing with
that type of, um, you know, that's
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:how you can also call it insult.
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:You can also say it's insurmountable.
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:Wouldn't want to pick up that, that cross
and carry that cross because they had
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:a million reasons why it wouldn't work.
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:So talk a little bit about that
resistance that you guys went
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: Absolutely.
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:And, and, um, I'm glad you brought that
up because the journey has not been easy.
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:Um, when Lu and, and you have to
know his background to understand it.
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:He was a concert promoter.
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:Um, he put groups together
like the Pointer Sisters.
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:He was the manager of Whispers.
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:I mean, he promoted, uh, black, uh,
entertainment all across the country.
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:But one thing you, when he said he
was going to do something, it was
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:going to happen, irregardless of
who said it wasn't going to happen.
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:And, uh, when he made the decision
that he was going to create this
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:rodeo association, the first thing
you would be surprised at is that
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:the black, his black friends and
community, uh, was very negative.
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:They were constantly
telling him he was crazy.
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:He was not going to be successful.
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:Nobody was going to attend.
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:Um, you were just, you know,
barking up the wrong tree.
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:It was just the constant
negative, negative, negative.
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:Um, he forged ahead.
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:When I talked about the first rodeo
in Denver, it was sold out and it
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:got a lot of people's attention.
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:He couldn't get sponsors.
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:For that rodeo because first thing
we're talking about:
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:doing something for the first time.
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:It's not proven.
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:Nobody's gonna give you any money because
they don't know if one person's going to
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:show up or 3000 people are gonna show up.
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:Tony Tidbit: Right?
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:So
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: now you are out
there just betting on, uh, beyond unknown.
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:After he did that first show,
he was able to convince.
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:Um, some sponsors and I'm not going
to call anybody's name, um, but some
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:sponsors to support which they did.
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:But let me share this with you because
he wanted to sing a black national
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:anthem and have a black American
flag in the opening of the rodeo.
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:It caused chaos to the nth degree.
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:And, um, corporate was saying, you can't
do that, we're not going to support you.
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:Um, so,Luiu beiLuiu said, take your money
and put it where the sun doesn't shine.
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:Tony Tidbit: I love it.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: And,
you know what, they, um, acclimate,
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:Tony Tidbit: Okay.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: In a much less,
Um, wait, so you have to, lesson that I
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:learned from that is that everything has
to be managed and you have to learn from
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:every experience that you go through.
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:Now he was pissed off, so you take him
in, you sit him down and breathe deeply
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:because you can't make this happen.
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:Without their money.
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:Tony Tidbit: So true.
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:That's
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham:
the reality of life.
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:Tony Tidbit: That's so true.
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:They
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: control
everything and you can't make
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:this happen without their money.
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:So how do we do what we need to do
and try to keep everybody happy?
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:We figured it out.
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:Um, and we still had the African American
flag, the black flag, because we were
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:not going to compromise on that subject.
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:Um, as things.
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:People began to accept it as they saw
a number of people that were supporting
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:the rodeos around the country.
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:He expanded.
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:At one time, Lu was doing 13 rodeos,
and I was learning more of the business,
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:and I was I'm that person that will
challenge you and anybody else.
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:Um, okay, you're doing all these
rodeos because you want everybody
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:in the United States to be exposed.
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:But, some of these shows
aren't making any money.
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:You're losing your shirt.
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:And, you've got to evaluate
the business aspect of it.
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:And so, finally I was able
to get through to him.
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:And he decided, okay, I'm in.
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:What, what do we do?
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:What don't we do?
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:And we were able to create a circuit
with support, uh, of the communities.
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:And then with that support of the
community, the sponsors continue
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:to support RK9 as new supporters.
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:I tell anybody that asks this
question, the journey was not easy.
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:There were times that we got many
conversations about, we don't
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:have the money to move forward.
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:So it would have been very easy for
us to say, okay, it's done, it's over.
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:But we didn't.
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:We found a way to do it
personally, uh, until the rodeo
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:was able to sustain itself.
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:Chris P. Reed: You come off to
me as a very conscientious, level
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:headed, well thought, uh, person.
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:And it seems like you've
always been that way.
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:And he was a maverick,
like you said, you know.
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:He, he, he was a, he
was ahead of his time.
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:Let me say, both of you,
both of you, congratulations.
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:And, and, and I appreciate the fact that
you guys were, So ahead of your time
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:in this, we're going to do it our way.
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:We're going to make our own path.
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:Um, but as trailblazers, it's interesting
that your influence in the business world.
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:Was able to meld into what he
was doing as a visionary leader.
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:And you guys work so well together
and that's a wonderful thing, but I
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:know that you have cowgirls, you spoke
with cowboys and cowgirls earlier.
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:And so you have steer wrestlers
and calf ropers and, you know, uh,
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:bulldoggers and things like that.
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:But of the women that you've assembled
since you've taken over, um, this, this
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:wonderful panel of, of, uh, intellectuals.
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:That actually lead this charge
into the next generation to expose
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:this to communities like he wanted
and to carry out his vision.
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:Are any of them cowgirls?
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:Because you're not a cowgirl.
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:You more of a business Maverick
kind of mogul type chick.
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:Tony Tidbit: I mean, that was
a fortuitous flight, right?
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:Because you, he met
exactly what he needed.
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:Right.
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:Exactly.
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:Right.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: Well, you know,
I believe that God always put, uh, the
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:right people together at the right time,
not at our time, but at the right time.
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:So if I could back up and just
share, um, the journey and
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:what I mean by the journey.
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:Is that, uh, Lu became ill and he was
not able to travel with the rodeo.
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:So I was kind of the front person for the
rodeo and I got to know everybody, the
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:cowgirls, the coordinators in each market.
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:Um, you know, because now I'm pushing
the buttons and, and, and, um,
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:listening to what they want to do and.
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:Either saying yes or no.
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:So anyway, um, after Lu passed, I
have to tell you, I was like a deer
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:just staring in the headlights.
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:Um, but people from across the
country, excuse me, reached out to
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:me many different ways, telephone
letters, email, um, just asking
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:me not to let The rodeo go.
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:And it was interesting as I talked to
them or read their stories, how much the
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:rodeo meant to them and their families.
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:I mean, some people share it with
me that when they came to the rodeo
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:the first time, they were pregnant.
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:And then they brought their kids to the
rodeo every year since then, and now
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:their kids were having kids, and they
wanted them to, their grandkids, to have
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:the experience, and I'm going, wow, you
know, you never, I had never thought
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:about that, but that was, um, it was just
very impressive, and going, okay, This
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:rodeo has had an effect on our community.
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:So if I become selfish and say,
this wasn't my dream, I'm going,
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:I'm going to let it go.
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:I'm hurting the community.
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:So I decided, okay, what would
it look like if I forged ahead?
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:The women.
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:Around me, Margo Wade LeDrew, who
is, um, she was the coordinator in
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:Los Angeles, said, I got your back.
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:You're not on this journey by yourself.
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:My daughter in law, Sherry Vasan,
in Oakland, California, she's the
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:Oakland coordinator, says, we're
with you every step of the way.
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:Um, Cowgirls, Stephanie
Haynes, Denise Tyus.
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:Carolyn Carter, they all are like,
girl, we got you, don't worry about it.
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:What you don't know, you're
going to learn, we got you.
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:And so, you know, at that
moment, I felt I can do this,
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:I can do this.
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:And so we forged ahead and since 2015,
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:we have been on an incredible journey.
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:We have been like sisters.
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:We love each other, but we disagree.
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:We've had fallen outs, but at the
end of the day, we hugging and
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:making up and we're marching forward.
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:And so I hope that just gives you an
answer to your question, because I would
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:not have been able to do this without
the encouragement and the support.
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:Of these sisters saying
we can do this right now.
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:Don't get me wrong We need the men
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:because I need them out in that arena
taking care of things And I need them
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:to also impart knowledge, uh, to me,
uh, things that I need to be aware of
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:when I'm talking to stock contractors.
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:And remember all the stock
contractors were white stock contract.
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:Tony Tidbit: Now
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: talking
to a black woman, I can tell
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:you the first year, it was very
interesting because they thought I
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:was just another little pretty face.
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:That I didn't know what I was doing and
when we when it came down to Negotiating
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:they found out that sister girl Knew
what she was talking about and you know
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:what life has progressed um, but not
without challenges even when you are
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:trying to negotiate tv buys or radio
buys or whatever um People just assume
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:that because you're a black female,
you don't know what you're doing.
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:Tony Tidbit: Right.
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:So you have to
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham:
prepare yourself.
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:And to the audience, I would say to young
people, You can be anything you want to
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:be, prepare yourself, equip yourself,
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:and the sky is the limit.
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:Chris P. Reed: Let me ask you
this, because you assembled a
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:board of directors, uh, of women
that you trusted and that you grew
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:to love and that supported you.
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:But in the idea of, it was still male
dominated, it was still white dominated.
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:Correct.
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:Y'all really stacked the deck against
yourself being, Predominantly women, first
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:and foremost, let's just keep it real.
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:And then obviously black women,
black women, black, unapologetic.
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:Like you said, y'all still,
y'all ain't come off the flag.
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:Y'all didn't come off the, the, the
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:Tony Tidbit: black dudes was
dealing with a bunch of stuff.
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:If a husband Dylan,
think about black women.
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:Chris P. Reed: So, so with that
being said, and you talked about how
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:the, your people big upping you and
taking you under their wings, there's
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:no greater feeling than that when
you get that support, when you get
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:that, that envelopment of your folks.
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:But what was the moment where you
realized, man, we pulled it off.
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:Like I know there had to
be some trepidation in the
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:beginning like no question.
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:I understand you were
thinking I can do it.
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:I can do it.
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:But it's different when it actually
comes to truition when it actually,
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:you know, turns the corner and when
they finally start respecting you, man.
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:So what was that moment
where y'all realize?
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:Damn,
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: we was right.
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:Well, you know, you have to
understand the personalities.
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:Tony Tidbit: Okay.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: Um, And I think
Margo, understanding her personality,
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:she is, she was trained by Mr.
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:Johnson from, uh, Ebony
Publishing Company,
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:Tony Tidbit: B.
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:P., B.
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:T., B.
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:T., yeah, yeah, yeah,
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: uh,
so, you know, she learned a lot.
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:She was buying, she was selling,
she was doing all of that.
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:And just when she and I would
have conversations, we would talk
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:about, um, you know, we need this
for sponsorship to make this work,
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:to lift it to the next level.
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:I got this.
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:We can make this happen.
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:Give me some time.
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:Let me think about it.
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:We're going to put it together.
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:She put it together.
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:We worked through it.
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:Let's add this.
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:Let's take this away.
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:Let's do this.
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:And she went out and she got the money.
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:I call her the bulldog because one
thing she knows how to do is say, okay.
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:And she is committed to this rodeo.
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:Sometimes I think more than me and she
owns the responsibility of making sure we
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:have the funds to do what we want to do.
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:She's a creative person.
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:She was, she's a lot by Lu.
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:She's creative.
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:Um, and she finds ways to finance
her creativity, if that makes sense.
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:So just knowing that I had that with, in
her and she came through and I would say
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:the first year that we were successful
in getting larger amounts of money.
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:Okay.
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:I'm like, I didn't have a major
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:celebration, really, it was
just, okay, we did this.
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:So if we did this, we can do more.
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:We can keep lifting and moving
and creating this rodeo to the
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:level of what we want it to be.
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:And I, to be honest with you, I don't
think we ever stopped and celebrated.
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:Tony Tidbit: Right.
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:Right.
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:We
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: just, uh, maybe
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:in a, in a quiet moment with each
other, we would say great job.
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:Good job.
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:But in the next breath.
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:Okay.
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:What's the next step?
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:Tony Tidbit: Right.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: Because
we don't get the opportunity
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:to celebrate like that.
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:You've always got to be 10 steps ahead.
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:And, and I will say this year.
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:Right.
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:Was the first year that we
actually celebrated everywhere
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:we went and felt good about it.
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:Tony Tidbit: That's awesome.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: Sold out
every show across this country that
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:we, uh, the support we got, um, we
celebrated that because we felt what we
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:had created over the last nine years.
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:Got us to this point.
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:And we wanted to share and
celebrate with everybody else.
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:So I hope that answer your question
I can tell you for me personally I
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:felt very good about this year because
I did celebrate it was a hard year.
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:Um, first time a black rodeo added over
200, 000 in prize money and gifts Anywhere
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:in the United States, we did that, um,
and I felt good that we were able to do
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:that for the black cowboys and cowgirls,
that their journey with us for the last
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:40 years, they deserved something special.
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:Tony Tidbit: Right, right.
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:And we
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham:
were able to give that.
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:Tony Tidbit: Well, not only did you give
that, and so number one, I want to applaud
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:you and your team for Because in the way
you're so elegant and telling the story,
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:um, but at the day, I know it was tough.
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:Okay?
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:And for you, flat out, for you
to take over, um, and, and you,
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:and your team come together.
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:And that's great from a, a, a,
you know, a dream standpoint.
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:But then the reality, Uh, what
you're dealing with over and over
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:again in a space where there's not
a lot of people that look like you.
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:Okay.
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:That's tough to do.
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:And I love what you said earlier
when you said, Hey, when he passed
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:away, people came and was like,
we don't want you to give this up.
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:And what was your response?
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:Your response was, I can't be selfish.
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:If it was any time for you to say I'm
done and to be fair, let's be fair.
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:You could have easily, you did a lot.
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:So it wasn't that you were being selfish.
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:It just, it ran its course.
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:But for you to have that stick to it ness,
and more importantly, when they continue
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:to give to the community was beautiful.
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:So my question is.
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:Talk about some of the other things
outside of the rodeo, like your
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:foundation, college fund, retreats,
that you guys still contribute
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:and uplift people, Black people
all around the country, right?
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:That's outside of the rodeo.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: Well, one
of the things that I think we as a
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:people have to remember is that when
someone gives something to you, You
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:should always get back and we had
been very fortunate, um, that as we
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:continued to rodeo 2015, 2016, 2017, um,
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:2018,
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:and I'm thinking 2019 was COVID.
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:Tony Tidbit: 2020.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: 2020.
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:Okay.
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:So 2019.
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:Then we took, uh, two years off
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:Tony Tidbit: in 2020.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: And I'll,
I'll share with you about:
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:Um, but then we started back up in 2022
and it's like, we didn't lose a beat.
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:The community was there.
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:They were ready.
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:They were supporting us.
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:So we have always had a nonprofit
foundation where we gave scholarship
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:in every city that we went to.
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:We try to identify.
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:Um, a young person who was graduating
from high school that was going to
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:college in some, um, profession that
could be used with a veterinarian, uh,
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:business, agriculture, whatever, um, that
we could give a scholarship to and help.
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:So we did that in 2023,
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:we realized as a result of COVID.
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:That we needed to do more
and we changed the name.
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:Our name of our foundation was the
Bill Pickett Memorial Scholarship Fund.
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:We were just focused on
scholarships, but we knew that we
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:had to do more with our community.
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:So we changed the name legally to
the Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo
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:Foundation, because while we were
doing, we were, um, on time out.
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:We called it.
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:It was our obligation to still
feed our communities and want to
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:say, feed them, feed them about
our black cowboys and cowgirls.
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:Um, we did virtual rodeos for them.
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:We did videos of, uh, um, the cowboys
and cowgirls, even our young people, uh,
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:just educating people about, uh, rodeo.
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:We also educated people about COVID.
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:What you need to do your responsibility
to yourself and to others And that opened
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:the door to say, you know what we have
such a large audience Our impact can
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:even be larger So with that name change
we start focusing on wellness um suicide
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:violence domestic violence Providing
people the things that they needed to
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:know Uh, making sure they felt safe,
giving them, uh, input, information,
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:how to do what they needed to do.
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:Um, it was important that they
saw us as a community resource.
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:In 2023,
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:the latter part of 2023, The USDA awarded
us with a Grand, which opened the doors
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:for us to hold workshops with young
Americans in every city to educate them
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:about the opportunities that they don't
know about that exists in agriculture.
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:And with the USDA, it's like a
hidden gem that people hide from us.
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:And so, We're like, okay, we have
thousands of people that come to us.
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:I bet you we can get young
adults that want to learn more.
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:And guess what?
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:We've been very successful.
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:Um, we've had workshops in every
city that we've gone to this year.
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:We did a one week, um, retreat.
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:With 35 students, tell me that that
was interesting experience to have
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:35 young people for a whole week,
trying to entertain them, trying to
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:educate them, and just embody them,
um, about what's real and we did that.
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:And, um, I'm happy to say we forged.
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:Relationships that not only with them,
but with their parents, um, that they're
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:still calling us and we're getting ready
to do, uh, two additional workshops
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:here in Atlanta, because the parents
and the students were so impressed.
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:They've gotten their friends together now.
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:And they want them to be exposed to that.
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:That's what I mean about
giving back to the community.
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:We each have a responsibility to help
each other, uplift each other, and educate
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:us about things that we don't know.
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:Everybody is not going
to be a LeBron James.
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:Everybody is not going to be,
um, an Usher or a Beyonce.
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:That's all I have to say.
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:You know, so we need to create
realistic, um, awareness with our
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:young people of things that they
might be interested in, career
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:opportunities that exist in those things.
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:And so that's what we're doing.
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:We're all over the place,
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:Tony Tidbit: creating
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham:
new things every day.
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:Um, you know, I'm a 32 year.
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:Breast cancer survived.
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:So I make sure at our finals in, uh, D.
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:C.
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:in September that we are
focused on breast cancer.
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:Um, we also focus on prostate cancer.
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:Man, you know how you guys are.
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:You don't like to go to the doctor.
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:You wait until it's too late.
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:So we're, we're trying to
do those things that we can.
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:To say to them, we love you, you
love us, we love you, let's take
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:this information and do something
with it, take care of yourself.
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:Tony Tidbit: I love it, I love it.
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:You know, I gotta, you know, one of
the things I was sitting here as you
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:were saying all these things, um,
:
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:you were in the insurance industry.
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:Absolutely.
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:Okay.
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:And, you know, I'm just
sitting here just like, wow.
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:And 40 something years later.
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:You've been in the rodeo industry,
you've partnered with somebody that was a
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:maverick, and then you became a maverick,
and took that legacy to the next level.
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:inspire, and lead the change.
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:Tony Tidbit: And then to your
point, now you're giving back.
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:So if you had to, and I know you say you
guys will celebrate as much or whatever
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:the case may be, and this year you were
able to celebrate, if you just took
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:a second and look back 40 something
years ago, 40 years ago, because it's,
688
:you know, 84, 2024, what do you say?
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:What do you take out of that?
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:Because, you know, there's an
old saying, um, oh, and this
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:is just something I believe.
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:Is that God takes our weakness and makes
it a strength and sometimes where we
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:think our, we want to go, our life is
going, he has a curveball and throws a
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:curveball and if you're receptive to it,
right, you got to be receptive to it.
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:It takes you places that
you never thought of.
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:So can you speak to that a little bit?
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: I can and
I I can tell you personally gives me
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:excitement about the rodeo today is that
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:I would say in 2016 and 17.
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:I can't remember the exact year, but we
added some junior events um to the rodeo
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:Junior barrel racing junior breakaway
peewee barrel racing Now, we have four
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:to seven year olds competing, and the
juniors, they're seven to thirteen.
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:Now, when I see these kids,
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:I, I mean, it just melts your heart,
because they are so passionate about what
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:they do, and they never thought about,
Oh my God, I'm going to perform them.
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:Are compete in front of thousands of
people and they see the crowd standing
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:on their feet cheering them on.
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:Can you imagine being 5 years old or
4 years old or 6 years old or even
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:9 years old and experiencing that
thousands of people up celebrating
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:you and what you're doing.
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:Can you just imagine.
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:The encouragement that that's
giving those young people.
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:I get excited about that because
what we what we have done is we
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:have created our future champions.
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:They are never going to leave rodeo.
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:Trust me.
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:Um, they are excited.
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:They are out there.
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:They are becoming better at
their Events and their skills,
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:and they've formed this little
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:friendship sisterhoods and
brotherhoods with each other.
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:And, um, I, I get excited about seeing
that because I know every time I see
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:them, I'm seeing the future generation
of Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo.
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:One day, one or a couple of
those little kids are gonna
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:be leading this organization.
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:And that's what I celebrate
and I get excited about.
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:You know, I have two young ladies, uh,
Kanesha Jackson and Danesha Henderson.
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:I remember when their mothers were
competing with them in their bellies.
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:And they have grown up with the rodeo.
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:Each of them have their own kids now.
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:And their kids are those ones that I
just talked about, you know, so you,
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:you just see that and you know, Kanisha
and Denisha came to me last year and
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:they said, let's, we have this, this
idea that we would like to bring to you.
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:And I said, what is it?
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:They said, we want to do a live,
um, rodeo talk for the Bill
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:Pickett Invitational Rodeo.
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:With the contestants, before each
rodeo, we got to tell them, get them
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:pumped up, get them psyched, and, you
know, and they've done it consistently.
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:And they are creative and
they take ownership of it.
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:My two flag bearers that carry the
American flag and the black national flag.
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:Um, see Paris is 15 and Courtney is 14.
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:They didn't know each other.
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:And so we asked them to do this for us
because we didn't have anybody else.
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:If I try to get somebody else to do
that now, they, they not having it.
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:That's, that's, they are so proud of
that, and what they do, and, um, those
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:are the things that I get excited about.
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:Courtney and Paris didn't know
each other, uh, when Paris came
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:to the rodeo, now she's been
with the rodeo about five years.
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:Courtney was born in the rodeo, okay?
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:So she's been with us for 14 years, and
now Courtney and Paris are best friends.
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:One live in Arkansas, one
lives in Hempstead, Texas.
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:Just to see those girls at every
rodeo, loving on each other,
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:embracing each other, helping each
other with their horses and stuff.
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:They compete against each other,
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:but it's about the love.
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:I mean, you can't buy that anywhere.
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:And so those, that's my celebration.
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:Chris P. Reed: Over the years,
you've cultivated a passion.
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:Um, into something that has become
a workshop for animal husbandry
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:for, for black folks, uh, a venue,
a sporting venue, a league that
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:you own and manage for black folks.
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:Um, you've been able to, uh,
reach different states, different
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:people on different levels.
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:Obviously coming from Illinois, I remember
coming to Texas and my brother said,
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:man, it's black folks riding horses and
doing all this other stuff down here.
766
:And he went to the black rodeo
and he was so excited about
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:it and went multiple times.
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:Um, in that.
769
:I would just like to congratulate
and thank you, not just as a
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:pillar of the community, but Ms.
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:Valeria, you're a pillar of
the culture because you're a
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:historian for black folks as well.
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:You're helping us understand where
we fit into America, not just
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:black America, but America and the
cowboy heritage that we inherited.
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:And this goes on, and as you
said, you're passing this on.
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:As a historian would so you wear so many
hats and like you said, it's a lot of
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:things going on, but I want to applaud you
and thank you and your team for being all
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:of these things that we need at this time
in our history, in our place in the world,
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:as we're still trying to make our way.
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:You guys are just undeterred and
undaunted and just making it happen.
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:And so we definitely here at a
black executive perspective podcast.
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:Want to applaud and salute
you guys tremendously.
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:So thank you.
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:Can
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: I share
one thing with you that I left out?
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:Thank you.
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:It's very important.
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:Um, the 2020 cobit 2021 cobit still going
on and then i'm sure each of you have
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:heard of the pbr Professional bull riding
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:Tony Tidbit: bull riding.
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:Yep.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: They are
a multi million dollar operation
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:um And they approach the bill
picket About partnering with them.
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:We did a show with them in Vegas
called showdown in Vegas in:
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:the MGM Grand, no other black Rundio
has ever been in the MGM Grand.
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:First thing you couldn't afford it.
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:We went in there, uh, with them in
that partnership, it was televised
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:live on national television by CBS.
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:On Juneteenth that year, which was
the same year that President Biden
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:made Juneteenth a national holiday.
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:Now you couldn't align the
stars any better than that.
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:So I must thank the PBR
because that was something
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:elevate the Bill Pickett
imitation of rodeo.
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:They were so excited about
the partnership on that day.
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:That they gave us, uh, offered us
a residency program in Fort Worth,
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:Texas, and we do four shows there
each year in partnership with the PBR.
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:We're now entertaining international
audiences, uh, this February
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:at our Black History Month
celebration there in February.
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:We had nine different
countries represented.
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:Um, we are live streamed on Pluto,
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:every rodeo.
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:They do Bill Pickett
Marathon on Juneteenth.
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:Every year.
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:I mean, if you just want it
rodeo, you can curl up on your
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:couch, get your popcorn, just
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:Tony Tidbit: chill out
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: and just
chill out for 24 hours, watching
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:the Bill Pickett imitation of rodeo.
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:So I am so thankful to them that they
saw value in what we were doing and
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:wanted to partner with us to help us.
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:Elevate.
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:I keep using that word.
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:Tony Tidbit: You
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: can't, you
can't forget where you came from and you
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:always must struggle to elevate yourself.
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:Tony Tidbit: So I, I
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: absolutely
wanted to talk about that partnership.
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:And in Denver, Colorado, with the national
Western stock show, Uh, in January, we
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:do what is called the MLK, uh, Rodeo,
which is live stream on the Cowboy Champ.
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:And, uh, we celebrate Rodeo
with Martin Luther King's
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:message of unity and justice.
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:So you can see that we use our platform
to deliver a lot of different messages.
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:Uh, throughout the years,
we rodeo and have fun,
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:Tony Tidbit: uh, with people.
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:That is awesome.
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:And so, I would like you to utilize
this platform as you have thus
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:far, and give final thoughts.
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:What would be some advice that
you would give, because you are a
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:giver, and you guys have been giving
for the last 40 something years.
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:What's some advice would you give?
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:a young person like yourself or a young
individual like your, your husband in
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:terms of them over starting something
that seems insurmountable and then being
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:able to move forward to overcome it.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham:
Wow, that's, um, a loaded,
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:loaded.
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:And I, I kind of touched
on this previously.
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:And what I would like to say to young
people is just understand, um, that
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:no journey in life is on a tape.
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:And we have to start telling
ourselves that, you know, we've been
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:beat down So much, um, by society
as a whole, and sometimes just by
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:parents, I, don't get me wrong.
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:Right.
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:They're telling their kids
they're nothing, they're never
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:going to amount to anything.
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:You have to have confidence in yourself.
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:You have to decide what journey
you want for yourself, and then
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:prepare yourself for that journey.
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:Nobody is giving out anything.
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:Nothing is going to come easy.
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:Right.
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:So you have to prepare yourself.
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:So young people, do the work, do
the work, and then know if you
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:do the work, you can accomplish
whatever you want to accomplish.
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:And I am especially, uh, biased to young
women because we carry a lot of weight,
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:um, or heavy burdens, I should say.
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:Because you're black, you're a woman,
and then you tried the rodeo, you
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:know, so don't let anybody tell
you what you can or cannot do.
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:I, uh, was communicating
with one of our cowgirls.
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:I'm gonna just share this
with you very briefly.
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:She started the year and it wasn't going
well for and she had a couple bad rodeos
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:and she was so mad at herself, she said.
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:You know, I'm just gonna quit.
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:I said, you can't do that.
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:You can't do that.
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:And I know one of my staff
members, cowgirl staff member,
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:spent some time encouraging her,
telling her, you need to do this.
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:You need to do that.
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:You need to do this.
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:She listened and she came back.
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:She won the 2024 war.
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:Ladies Breakaway Championship.
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:Tony Tidbit: Awesome.
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:Awesome.
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:As
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: a result
of that, she just competed in Denver,
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:Colorado at the All Star Rodeo Theater.
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:She didn't win it, but she came in second.
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:I just talked to her yesterday to
say, I'm so glad you didn't quit.
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:Now, are you glad?
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:You didn't quit and she all she could
say was thank you for the encouragement
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:That's what we have to do for each other.
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:Tony Tidbit: Yes Yes,
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: lift each
other up not listen to the naysayers
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:not buy into the negative stuff Just
know whatever you want to do you can
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:accomplish If you prepare yourself
and you invest time and work into it,
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:people sometimes say, I want to do this.
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:Okay.
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:I know I want to do this, but they're
not willing to put in the work.
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:Guess what?
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:Nothing's going to happen.
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:You got to put in the work.
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:So that's my message.
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:Have faith.
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:In yourself, have faith in God
and just keep moving forward.
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:Don't let fear overtake your faith.
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:Chris P. Reed: I definitely
want to thank you.
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:And, uh, I'm sure on behalf
of the audience, thank you for
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:being emblematic of confidence,
coordination, and collaboration.
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:Because the one thing that you said
over and over again was it wasn't just
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:you, you reached out and you accepted.
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:Assistance and you were embracing
the community and you were
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:embracing partnerships and it's
not just one person doing it all.
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:And you were able to leverage that
by making sure that you tied in with
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:the right folks and you coordinated
your thoughts and make sure you
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:understood where you guys were headed.
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:And that's the greatest lesson
in all of this, and that actually
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:promotes the culture, right?
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:So that confidence, that coordination,
that collaboration promotes the
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:culture and we appreciate you.
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:Thank you so much for
sharing the story with us.
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:I'm sure many people learned a lot.
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:I know I did.
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:I know Tony did, and I'm sure
our audience would as well.
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:So.
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:We just want to make sure that we thank
you specifically in that way as we
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:move, uh, to the end of our episode.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: Thank you.
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:You know, I, I, I tell people all
the time, um, I can be a tyrant
929
:because my belief, if you're
going to do anything, do it well.
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:I don't do it at all.
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:And I don't accept excuses.
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:I don't accept, uh, mediocrity.
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:And so I was telling somebody
yesterday, you either not, uh,
934
:learn to love me or hate me.
935
:But that's okay.
936
:I'm comfortable with either one of those.
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:Right,
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:Tony Tidbit: right.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: Because
if you're not going to perform
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:at the level you need to perform,
you don't need to be on my team.
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:Tony Tidbit: Well, thank you.
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:Well, listen, sounds like my mother.
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:Because that's how my
mother brought us up.
944
:So I love it.
945
:That's the only thing we know.
946
:But more importantly, to
Chris's point, thank you.
947
:Um, and you stay right here because you're
going to help us with our call to action.
948
:So I think it's now
time for Tony's tidbit.
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:So the tidbit is always based
on what we talked about today.
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:So today's tidbit is in the rodeo of
life Strength and determination are not
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:just the spurs that drive us forward,
but also showcase the power of a
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:visionary woman leading the charge in
a traditionally male dominated arena.
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:Commitment to lifting
others up along the way.
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:And that's what we heard today
about Valeria Cunningham.
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:And Bill Pickett rodeo invitation.
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:So we want to thank her for coming on
and sharing that power, that strength,
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:that determination, and that faith.
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:Before
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:Chris P. Reed: we get out of here,
we want to make sure that we remind
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:all of you to tune in to our weekly
segment, Need to Know With Nsenga.
961
:This is a segment where Dr.
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:Nsenga Burton gives the Black Exegetic
Perspective podcast, a timely and
963
:crucial Overview of topics that
mean a lot to our culture, to the
964
:world, and to society as a whole.
965
:So make sure you don't forget to
tune in each week to hear what she
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:has to say because it's powerful,
it's passionate, and it's poignant.
967
:So make sure that you don't miss
that because you will regret it.
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:Tony Tidbit: Absolutely, absolutely,
definitely check her out.
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:And I hope you enjoyed today's episode.
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:Leading the charge, Black
women transforming rodeo.
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:Chris P. Reed: And then at this point
in time, as we do, we'd like to invite
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:you all to embrace and incorporate
our call to action, which is LESS.
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:L E S S.
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:And the L stands for learn.
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:Educate yourself on racial
and cultural nuances.
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:And expand your horizons and
expose yourself to things
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:that could make you grow.
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:As Ms.
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:Valeria talked about growth is
the goal in order to hand that
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:off to the next generation.
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:Tony Tidbit: Absolutely.
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:And listen, our goal is to decrease
all forms of discrimination.
983
:So this is why less is important.
984
:So after you learn.
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:Now, the E stands for empathy.
986
:Now, you should be more empathetic
to your friends and colleagues
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:because now you understand what
they've been going through.
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:Valeria Howard Cunningham: And then
if I could say, the S is for sharing.
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:Share your insights to enlighten others.
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:I think I talked about that today.
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:And our obligation to lift people
up, enlighten them and help them.
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:So share, always share your insights.
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:Tony Tidbit: Absolutely.
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:Thank you, Valeria.
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:And the final S stands for stop.
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:We want to actively stop
discrimination as it walks in our path.
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:So if grandpa says something at the
Thanksgiving table that's inappropriate,
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:you say grandpa, we don't believe in that.
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:And you stop it right there.
:
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So if everyone can incorporate
less L E S S we'll build a more
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01:09:23,609 --> 01:09:26,220
fair and understanding world.
:
01:09:26,620 --> 01:09:31,120
And we'll all be able to see
the change that we want to see
:
01:09:31,410 --> 01:09:33,870
because less will become more.
:
01:09:34,069 --> 01:09:36,270
Chris P. Reed: Want to make sure
that you guys continue to tune in,
:
01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:39,490
but more importantly, make sure you
go to the website, sign up for the
:
01:09:39,490 --> 01:09:44,000
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comments, give us, you know, your take
:
01:09:44,020 --> 01:09:47,200
on things that we should be speaking
on that we may not be aware of.
:
01:09:47,654 --> 01:09:50,415
Make sure that you give feedback on
things that you have heard because
:
01:09:50,524 --> 01:09:51,865
all of this stuff is expansive.
:
01:09:52,325 --> 01:09:54,434
It's so many meat on, it's
so much meat on the bone.
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01:09:54,445 --> 01:09:55,505
Even for what Ms.
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01:09:55,505 --> 01:09:57,835
Valeria told us today,
this, you know, can't all be
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encompassed into just an hour.
:
01:09:59,535 --> 01:10:02,095
So make sure that you give us
that feedback so we know where
:
01:10:02,095 --> 01:10:03,975
to guide this in the future.
:
01:10:04,315 --> 01:10:05,735
And Tony, where can they reach us?
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Tony Tidbit: Follow us on our socials,
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:
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X, YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram at
A Black Exec for our fabuLus, beautiful
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guest, Valeria Cunningham, president owner
of the Bill Pickett Invitational Rodeo.
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01:10:23,510 --> 01:10:26,170
We thank her for coming on
and sharing her perspective.
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01:10:26,440 --> 01:10:31,480
For my co host with the most
crispy read, I'm Tony tidbit.
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01:10:31,790 --> 01:10:33,170
We talked about it.
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We'd love you.
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And guess what?
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We're out
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BEP Narrator: a black
executive perspective.