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Episode 120th January 2026 • Dive Bar Music Club • Sloane Spencer
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Slide into the booth for a relaxed hang chatting about great music with Rachel Cholst, Charles Hale, and Sloane Spencer about what’s been on repeat lately, swapping thoughts on everything from the infectious indie rock of Weakened Friends to the timeless soul of Mavis Staples. Along the way, they shine a light on artists like SG Goodman, Florry, and Fust, talking about how these musicians tell powerful stories through their songs. They chat about live shows versus records, contrasting Billy Allen + The Pollies with Bass Battery. You’ll also hear some fun tales from the record store world, including a Taylor Swift listening party that turned into joyful chaos with kids, friendship bracelets, and plenty of laughs. Pour yourself a drink, get comfortable, and enjoy the kind of music chat that feels like catching up with friends, and hopefully inspires your next favorite listen. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

Playlist

  1. Apple Music
  2. Tidal

Bands Featured in Episode 1

  1. Bass Battery
  2. Billy Allen + The Pollies
  3. Florry
  4. Fust
  5. SG Goodman
  6. Mavis Staples
  7. Weakened Friends
  8. (We never got around to chatting about Lene Lovich and Marah, also on our lists.)

Venues Mentioned

  1. 40 Watt, Athens, GA
  2. 9:30 Club, Washington, DC
  3. Bowery Ballroom, NYC
  4. Eddie's Attic, Decatur, GA
  5. The Fillmore East, NYC
  6. The Foundry, Athens, GA
  7. Newport Folk Fest, Newport, RI
  8. The RamKat, Winston-Salem, NC
  9. Sony Hall, NYC
  10. Standard Deluxe, Waverly, AL
  11. Sultan Room, Bushwick, Brooklyn, NY
  12. Turk's Inn, NYC

The Regulars in this Episode

  1. Rachel Cholst (Adobe & Teardrops, Rainbow Rodeo)
  2. Charles Hale (Driver 8 Records, Ajax Diner Book Club on KRFC)
  3. Sloane Spencer (Sleep with Rock Stars, Country Fried Rock, Momma Runs an Ultra)

Other Mentions

  1. Norwood Cheek
  2. Katie Crutchfield (Waxahatchee)
  3. Drive-By Truckers
  4. Mitch Easter
  5. Patty Griffin
  6. Buddy Guy
  7. Eddie Hinton
  8. Patterson Hood
  9. Janis Joplin
  10. Rob Ladd
  11. MJ Lenderman
  12. Let's Active
  13. Mandolin Orange
  14. Francie Medosch (Florry)
  15. Mipso
  16. Bonnie Raitt
  17. Nathaniel Rateliff
  18. Libby Rodenbough
  19. Dex Romweber Duo
  20. Dexter Romweber
  21. Sara Romweber
  22. The Staples Singers
  23. Taylor Swift
  24. Derek Trucks
  25. Jeff Tweedy
  26. Spencer Tweedy
  27. Townes Van Zandt
  28. Tom Waits
  29. Watchhouse (formerly Mandolin Orange)
  30. Wednesday
  31. Gillian Welch

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Automated Transcript

Speaker A

00:00:02.000 - 00:01:00.650

Welcome to the Dive Bar Music Club podcast, where the guest hosts drop in and out, but the opinions are always passionate in the playlists. Loud. It's like cheers if everyone at the bar had a strong take on 90s alt rock or a suspicious number of burned CDs.

Around our table, you'll find an emerging touring songwriter, a former cult band favorite whose work since then is even more interesting, a portrait photographer with a not so secret metal penchant, a record store owner who learned about Swifties the hard way, a retired folk singer who regrets nothing, and a zine maker with more cool music projects than we can count.

We're all just here to share what we're currently obsessed with and maybe convince someone that, yes, that weird Icelandic synth folk band is worth a listen. Okay, that last one's probably me, Sloane Spencer. It's Dive Bar Music Club. Low key, high taste happy hour for music nerds. Well, hey, y'.

Speaker B

00:01:00.650 - 00:01:00.770

All.

Speaker A

00:01:00.770 - 00:01:32.910

Thanks for sliding on in here with us at Dive Bar Music Club. I'm Sloane Spencer, and I am so excited to have gathered a couple of my friends to hang out with me as we roll right into January 2026.

I have Rachel Colst and Charles Hale joining me today.

If you've had a chance so far, hope you've listened to those bio episodes to find out what they are up to in the past and how they bring a lot of different to the world of music. They're joining us here in Dive Bar Music Club and I can't believe we're finally doing this. How are y' all doing? Rachel, what's up?

Speaker C

00:01:33.390 - 00:01:42.910

I'm great. I have a brand new refrigerator. Yeah, this is our third refrigerator in six years.

So we were very excited to stay in for New Year's Eve and cook a nice meal.


Speaker A

00:01:43.390 - 00:01:48.830

Listen, that is absolutely something that all of us have reached the point of life where that is point of celebration.


Speaker C

00:01:50.520 - 00:01:58.760

Yeah, there was a time when a week of takeout and Trader Joe's frozen food would have seemed awesome, but that time has passed for sure.


Speaker A

00:01:59.240 - 00:02:01.080

Charles, how about you? What have you been up to?


Speaker B

00:02:01.480 - 00:02:15.240

I've been dreaming of owning a refrigerator that makes ice on its own. It's one of my goals is to have one of those before I turn 50. So I've got about 18 months to get one of those.


Speaker A

00:02:15.950 - 00:02:23.310

I love this. So that's perfect for the little sounder that I use on all the little intros to this, which is the ice hitting the glass.


That might be our recurring theme.


Speaker B

00:02:24.910 - 00:02:25.390

Wheat.


Speaker A

00:02:25.710 - 00:02:44.140

The main question of Dive Bar Music Club is asking Folks, what are the three things they've been listening to lately? I kind of like the question because it's a little different than what are your top three picks?


Especially as we get into these conversations, you'll see it's a little different. What's on your mind these days? So, Rachel Coltst, what have you been listening to lately?


Speaker C

00:02:44.620 - 00:03:52.670

Yeah. So I picked out my three songs for today based on my cool venues I went to this year or back in 2025.


So first we'll start out with Weekend Friends Weightless. It's kind of more indie rock, little grunge, a little pop punk.


I went to go see them at a place in Bushwick, Brooklyn, called the Sultan Room, which I think I mentioned in my bio episode. It was my first time there, but the venue is a couple of years old.


These guys basically imported, like, a Midwestern supper club called the Turkish Inn out to Brooklyn, and then they attached a music venue to it that has just this really cool setup. Like, you walk in and the stage is sort of sunk in. So the stage is below you.


There's like an area right around the front of the stage if you're into, like, moshing or whatever. Sort of upper level with the bar. And it's just like, there's all good sight lines and the way they decorated it was really cool.


These, like, LED panels and kind of, like Moorish style. I don't know, lattice work. It's worth looking up a picture.


The venue itself, I think, has a lot of different types of music, but this was a rock show and it was super fun.


Speaker A

00:03:52.990 - 00:04:00.910

Oh, I think I found that band when I subscribed to your email list. And so that's how I found them. And they kind of give me a little bit, like, younger riot girl vibe.


Speaker C

00:04:01.790 - 00:04:15.770

Totally. I mean, they're millennials, so they. I think they definitely have incorporated that turn as a lot with 90s rock pop.


And on my podcast, we talked a little bit about country as well into their sound.


Speaker A

00:04:16.170 - 00:04:23.850

By the way, if y' all haven't had a chance, there is a whole conversation on Rachel's podcast with the Weekenders. What? Give us that link again.


Speaker C

00:04:24.650 - 00:04:40.700

Weekend Friends. It's the most recent episode of the Rainbow Rodeo podcast. Oh, no, you're fine.


And then one thing I am figuring out this new year is what I want to be doing with the podcast this coming year. So subscribe. It might take a little while for a new episode to show up, but I have some fun ideas.


Speaker A

00:04:41.100 - 00:04:43.980

Cool. I love that. So, Charles, what have you been listening to?


Speaker B

00:04:45.020 - 00:04:52.460

The Record that has sort of been most on my mind recently is the newest Mavis Staples Record.


Speaker A

00:04:53.020 - 00:04:53.580

Mm.


Speaker B

00:04:54.060 - 00:06:04.560

Sad and beautiful world. And she is, I think, 86 years old and made a beautiful record.


It really is good, and I don't want to be fatalistic, but it might be the last record she makes, and if it is, I feel like she made an A plus record. There's two songs that I'll point out briefly, and Mavis doesn't write songs, so two songs.


One is called Hard Times, which Gillian Welch wrote, which is a beautiful song. And then the album closes with a song called Everybody Needs Love, which was written by Eddie Hinton, who is a. An old Muscle Shoals session musician.


But the song Everybody Needs Love I know, and I think probably most people know it's because the Drive By Truckers recorded it a number of years ago. And Mavis does a beautiful version. The other thing that I love about this record is who all she has playing with her, because she could.


She could get anybody she wanted, really.


Speaker A

00:06:04.560 - 00:06:04.960

Right.


Speaker B

00:06:05.440 - 00:06:14.160

And Jeff Tweedy is around a little bit. Spencer Tweedy is around a little bit. But Katie Crutchfield is on the record from Wax.


Speaker C

00:06:14.320 - 00:06:15.120

I didn't know that.


Speaker B

00:06:15.200 - 00:06:45.590

Buddy Guy is on the record. Derek Trucks is on the record, MJ Linderman is on the record.


So Nathaniel Raitliff is on the record, Patterson Hood is on the record, and Bonnie Raitt is on the record. So there's all these young people that are making interesting, creative music right now, and she's having them in.


Part of that is because Brad Cook is the producer of the record. So it's such a beautiful record. I listened to it this morning.


Speaker A

00:06:46.070 - 00:06:49.910

I love it. And there's a fantastic Tom Waits cover with Chicago as well.


Speaker B

00:06:50.230 - 00:07:10.320

Yes. Chicago is the first song on the record, and it does feel like the outlier a little bit, because it's not sort of morose or reflective. It's.


It's more celebratory. But, yeah, she's doing Tom Waits, so how can we not like that?


Speaker A

00:07:11.360 - 00:07:29.100

For sure. Forgive me if I have told either of y' all this story before, and I don't know that I've ever...

Transcripts

Speaker A:

Welcome to the Dive Bar Music Club podcast, where the guest hosts drop in and out, but the opinions are always passionate in the playlists.

Speaker A:

Loud.

Speaker A:

It's like cheers if everyone at the bar had a strong take on 90s alt rock or a suspicious number of burned CDs.

Speaker A:

Around our table, you'll find an emerging touring songwriter, a former cult band favorite whose work since then is even more interesting, a portrait photographer with a not so secret metal penchant, a record store owner who learned about Swifties the hard way, a retired folk singer who regrets nothing, and a zine maker with more cool music projects than we can count.

Speaker A:

We're all just here to share what we're currently obsessed with and maybe convince someone that, yes, that weird Icelandic synth folk band is worth a listen.

Speaker A:

Okay, that last one's probably me, Sloane Spencer.

Speaker A:

It's Dive Bar Music Club.

Speaker A:

Low key, high taste happy hour for music nerds.

Speaker A:

Well, hey, y'.

Speaker B:

All.

Speaker A:

Thanks for sliding on in here with us at Dive Bar Music Club.

Speaker A:

as we roll right into January:

Speaker A:

I have Rachel Colst and Charles Hale joining me today.

Speaker A:

If you've had a chance so far, hope you've listened to those bio episodes to find out what they are up to in the past and how they bring a lot of different to the world of music.

Speaker A:

They're joining us here in Dive Bar Music Club and I can't believe we're finally doing this.

Speaker A:

How are y' all doing?

Speaker A:

Rachel, what's up?

Speaker C:

I'm great.

Speaker C:

I have a brand new refrigerator.

Speaker C:

Yeah, this is our third refrigerator in six years.

Speaker C:

So we were very excited to stay in for New Year's Eve and cook a nice meal.

Speaker A:

Listen, that is absolutely something that all of us have reached the point of life where that is point of celebration.

Speaker C:

Yeah, there was a time when a week of takeout and Trader Joe's frozen food would have seemed awesome, but that time has passed for sure.

Speaker A:

Charles, how about you?

Speaker A:

What have you been up to?

Speaker B:

I've been dreaming of owning a refrigerator that makes ice on its own.

Speaker B:

It's one of my goals is to have one of those before I turn 50.

Speaker B:

So I've got about 18 months to get one of those.

Speaker A:

I love this.

Speaker A:

So that's perfect for the little sounder that I use on all the little intros to this, which is the ice hitting the glass.

Speaker A:

That might be our recurring theme.

Speaker B:

Wheat.

Speaker A:

The main question of Dive Bar Music Club is asking Folks, what are the three things they've been listening to lately?

Speaker A:

I kind of like the question because it's a little different than what are your top three picks?

Speaker A:

Especially as we get into these conversations, you'll see it's a little different.

Speaker A:

What's on your mind these days?

Speaker A:

So, Rachel Coltst, what have you been listening to lately?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

went to this year or back in:

Speaker C:

So first we'll start out with Weekend Friends Weightless.

Speaker C:

It's kind of more indie rock, little grunge, a little pop punk.

Speaker C:

I went to go see them at a place in Bushwick, Brooklyn, called the Sultan Room, which I think I mentioned in my bio episode.

Speaker C:

It was my first time there, but the venue is a couple of years old.

Speaker C:

These guys basically imported, like, a Midwestern supper club called the Turkish Inn out to Brooklyn, and then they attached a music venue to it that has just this really cool setup.

Speaker C:

Like, you walk in and the stage is sort of sunk in.

Speaker C:

So the stage is below you.

Speaker C:

There's like an area right around the front of the stage if you're into, like, moshing or whatever.

Speaker C:

Sort of upper level with the bar.

Speaker C:

And it's just like, there's all good sight lines and the way they decorated it was really cool.

Speaker C:

These, like, LED panels and kind of, like Moorish style.

Speaker C:

I don't know, lattice work.

Speaker C:

It's worth looking up a picture.

Speaker C:

The venue itself, I think, has a lot of different types of music, but this was a rock show and it was super fun.

Speaker A:

Oh, I think I found that band when I subscribed to your email list.

Speaker A:

And so that's how I found them.

Speaker A:

And they kind of give me a little bit, like, younger riot girl vibe.

Speaker C:

Totally.

Speaker C:

I mean, they're millennials, so they.

Speaker C:

I think they definitely have incorporated that turn as a lot with 90s rock pop.

Speaker C:

And on my podcast, we talked a little bit about country as well into their sound.

Speaker A:

By the way, if y' all haven't had a chance, there is a whole conversation on Rachel's podcast with the Weekenders.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker A:

Give us that link again.

Speaker C:

Weekend Friends.

Speaker C:

It's the most recent episode of the Rainbow Rodeo podcast.

Speaker C:

Oh, no, you're fine.

Speaker C:

And then one thing I am figuring out this new year is what I want to be doing with the podcast this coming year.

Speaker C:

So subscribe.

Speaker C:

It might take a little while for a new episode to show up, but I have some fun ideas.

Speaker A:

Cool.

Speaker A:

I love that.

Speaker A:

So, Charles, what have you been listening to?

Speaker B:

The Record that has sort of been most on my mind recently is the newest Mavis Staples Record.

Speaker A:

Mm.

Speaker B:

Sad and beautiful world.

Speaker B:

And she is, I think, 86 years old and made a beautiful record.

Speaker B:

It really is good, and I don't want to be fatalistic, but it might be the last record she makes, and if it is, I feel like she made an A plus record.

Speaker B:

There's two songs that I'll point out briefly, and Mavis doesn't write songs, so two songs.

Speaker B:

One is called Hard Times, which Gillian Welch wrote, which is a beautiful song.

Speaker B:

And then the album closes with a song called Everybody Needs Love, which was written by Eddie Hinton, who is a.

Speaker B:

An old Muscle Shoals session musician.

Speaker B:

But the song Everybody Needs Love I know, and I think probably most people know it's because the Drive By Truckers recorded it a number of years ago.

Speaker B:

And Mavis does a beautiful version.

Speaker B:

The other thing that I love about this record is who all she has playing with her, because she could.

Speaker B:

She could get anybody she wanted, really.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

And Jeff Tweedy is around a little bit.

Speaker B:

Spencer Tweedy is around a little bit.

Speaker B:

But Katie Crutchfield is on the record from Wax.

Speaker C:

I didn't know that.

Speaker B:

Buddy Guy is on the record.

Speaker B:

Derek Trucks is on the record, MJ Linderman is on the record.

Speaker B:

So Nathaniel Raitliff is on the record, Patterson Hood is on the record, and Bonnie Raitt is on the record.

Speaker B:

So there's all these young people that are making interesting, creative music right now, and she's having them in.

Speaker B:

Part of that is because Brad Cook is the producer of the record.

Speaker B:

So it's such a beautiful record.

Speaker B:

I listened to it this morning.

Speaker A:

I love it.

Speaker A:

And there's a fantastic Tom Waits cover with Chicago as well.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Chicago is the first song on the record, and it does feel like the outlier a little bit, because it's not sort of morose or reflective.

Speaker B:

It's.

Speaker B:

It's more celebratory.

Speaker B:

But, yeah, she's doing Tom Waits, so how can we not like that?

Speaker A:

For sure.

Speaker A:

Forgive me if I have told either of y' all this story before, and I don't know that I've ever told listeners on any of my podcasts.

Speaker A:

I exist because of Mavis Staples.

Speaker A:

My mom and dad's first date was to go see the Staples Singers at the Fillmore east, and that is literally the reason that I exist.

Speaker B:

That's awesome.

Speaker B:

How old were you when.

Speaker B:

When they told you this?

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

So I was, like, 4.

Speaker B:

So your parents were also into music?

Speaker A:

Oh, big time.

Speaker A:

Big time.

Speaker A:

The Only glue that my family ever had was music.

Speaker A:

So I'm really fortunate that grew up with the Staples family Singers records and then later the Mavis Staples stuff.

Speaker A:

And that bill was a famous one because 10 years after and Janis Joplin were also on the same bill, and we.

Speaker A:

So I grew up with the poster hanging in our bath.

Speaker A:

But yeah, I love this.

Speaker A:

And I love how, like, both of these examples of both Weekend Friends.

Speaker A:

Sorry I got their name wrong earlier.

Speaker A:

I do like the band.

Speaker A:

I apologize.

Speaker A:

And this Mavis Staples record are both young and fresh and someone who has really been in the world for a long time.

Speaker A:

But there's enough commonality of the kind of interest that I'm just.

Speaker A:

I'm loving, loving all of this.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna skip myself.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna.

Speaker A:

Rachel, what else are you listening to?

Speaker C:

I was just thinking that if you were to juxtapose those two songs, they're probably like, the complete opposite, because that album by Weeknd Friends Feels Like Hell, is all about sort of like millennial existentialism and everything sucks and nothing's gonna get better.

Speaker C:

And then it seems like this album has been huge for them.

Speaker C:

So I think maybe, hopefully they could more or less make a living doing music now.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So this song spangled by Fust out of North Carolina.

Speaker C:

I think it's a little more, like, pretty than the kind of music I tend to listen to.

Speaker C:

But I was really just taken away, blown away by this album, Big Ugly, you know, right from the start.

Speaker C:

So that's why I wanted to play Spangle, since that's the intro track.

Speaker C:

I listened to the album the night before I went to go see them open for SG Goodman.

Speaker C:

And the album's beautiful, just about.

Speaker C:

You know, I'm not from the South.

Speaker C:

You can't tell I'm from New York City.

Speaker C:

But the album is sort of, I think, just loving your home with all its flaws and the people who are trying to make it all work, even when everything holds them back.

Speaker C:

And I will say I appreciated the album itself more than seeing them play it live because the songs got a little samey.

Speaker C:

But the album itself, I think, works really well.

Speaker A:

I was not familiar with them, and I'm in their general area.

Speaker A:

I'm about three hours from there, so I was excited that you turned it on, and I went ahead and listened.

Speaker A:

Interesting that they were opening for S.G. goodman.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I mean, definitely same vibe of, like, Southern rock with, like, other influences.

Speaker C:

And Libby Rodenbo did is the fiddle player for this band, so maybe that was.

Speaker C:

This is her new project after.

Speaker C:

What was she in before?

Speaker C:

Mando and Orange.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker A:

Who had a different name before that, didn't they?

Speaker B:

They have a different name now.

Speaker C:

Yeah, they're Watch House now.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker C:

Sorry.

Speaker C:

She was in Mitso before.

Speaker A:

That's it.

Speaker A:

That's the one I was thinking.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker C:

Different band, similar vibes.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

I'm, like, usually not a proponent of the kind of, like, millennial indie rock stuff, because it's sort of so like, you know, that's why, you know, every band Charles ever wrote about.

Speaker C:

Nine Bullets, I was, like, fully into, but I think this album has, like, that sound, but also a little bit of, like, twang and a little bit of, like, 90s rock, too, that it's kind of what drew me in.

Speaker A:

But you, Charles Sloan, you have to.

Speaker B:

Tell us what you've been listening to.

Speaker A:

You know, I was going to try to pawn it off, because I know I ramble, and I'm fully aware of that.

Speaker A:

So I have had a great year of going to see live music.

Speaker A:

So I would do things like drive five hours to a show, see the show, drink a huge cup of coffee at the gas station, and drive home, and I did a lot of that.

Speaker A:

Which?

Speaker A:

Big fan of Totally.

Speaker A:

Recommendations.

Speaker A:

The band I saw the most last year was Billie Allen and the Pollys.

Speaker A:

I have been a huge fan of the Pollys for years.

Speaker A:

No secret about that.

Speaker A:

But I got a heads up that they were going to be collaborating years ago, like, before they ever actually wrote songs or anything.

Speaker A:

I love them together.

Speaker A:

I think they bring things out of each other that they none of them bring solo in a good way.

Speaker A:

And I am a sucker for some Southern soul stuff.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So, yeah, it's as much the record, which is fabulous, like, technically fabulous.

Speaker A:

Sounds beautiful.

Speaker A:

A great lesson.

Speaker A:

But also I love to see them live.

Speaker B:

Where have you seen them in:

Speaker B:

Ooh.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

So I have zero concept of time.

Speaker A:

Like, just in real life, yesterday, two weeks ago, are all the same thing to me.

Speaker A:

sure these were all:

Speaker A:

I saw them at a house concert.

Speaker A:

I saw them at two house concerts.

Speaker A:

I saw them at Eddie's Attic in Atlanta, and I drove to another venue somewhere in North.

Speaker A:

Oh, I know.

Speaker A:

I saw them at the Foundry in Athens, Georgia, and then I saw them somewhere in North Carolina.

Speaker A:

That escapes me now that we're talking about it.

Speaker B:

Now, one of the things about living in the west is that the towns and the cities are really Far away from each other.

Speaker B:

So the option to do that kind of thing just does not exist.

Speaker B:

I mean, Denver's an hour away.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

To go to another city would be five, six, seven hours.

Speaker A:

Oh, wow.

Speaker B:

So we don't get as many bands as you get in the south just because you can't hop from.

Speaker B:

Hour and a half.

Speaker B:

Hour and a half.

Speaker B:

Hour and a half and play shows.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

It's one of the downsides, but I.

Speaker C:

Feel like there's a great sort of Americana scene in, like, Fort Collins, which is where you are, right?

Speaker B:

Maybe.

Speaker B:

But I'm old and I don't go.

Speaker C:

Out the neighborhood I'm in in Upperman Head, and they're starting to be more like rock and, I don't know, singer, songwriter Nights.

Speaker B:

I do have a question about Billie Allen and the Police.

Speaker A:

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker B:

I'm curious how the album compares to the live show.

Speaker A:

That's a great question.

Speaker A:

Honestly, they're able to replicate it a whole lot better than I would have expected because they really deliver live.

Speaker A:

And the advantage of the Pollys is that's part of what they do is they work as the backing band for other people in addition to being their own thing.

Speaker A:

And so you're getting all four of them as the backing band then, plus whoever the front person is.

Speaker A:

So it's a pretty full sound.

Speaker A:

And I don't feel like they're lacking anything.

Speaker A:

It really replicates pretty closely.

Speaker A:

They're not reinterpreting the songs live versus the record.

Speaker A:

And Neat, which is neither good nor bad.

Speaker A:

Like, I am all about a lush record that gets presented in a more stripped manner, but they really deliver it pretty.

Speaker A:

Pretty true to form.

Speaker A:

So funny.

Speaker A:

I'm laughing a little bit about your commentary about venues because y' all know about the 9:30 club in the D.C. area.

Speaker A:

I used to joke that I was going to open the 6:30 club for old people.

Speaker B:

Yes, please do.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I want to be in bed by 9:30.

Speaker A:

I'm sorry.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

I know Charles's goal is to get a refrigerator that makes ice, but my goal is to eventually have an apartment that's large enough to host a living room show.

Speaker C:

Or there are a couple of, like, places and buildings in the neighborhood that have, like, sort of common rooms.

Speaker C:

And I would love to be able to just like, rent out that community room and have shows there.

Speaker A:

That would be incredible.

Speaker A:

That would be incredible.

Speaker A:

Rachel, what else are you listening to?

Speaker C:

Since I already mentioned her?

Speaker C:

S.G. goodman.

Speaker C:

I didn't get really a chance to see much live music this year because I was working A part time job in the evenings, and I was working on Thursdays, which is when most of the artists I like end up playing in New York for whatever reason.

Speaker C:

So I didn't get to go see much this year.

Speaker C:

So SG Was one of the other people I saw.

Speaker C:

But I actually did not stay for her set at the Bowery Ballroom.

Speaker C:

I did see her open for Patty Griffin, and then I left before Patty came on.

Speaker C:

I saw her at Sony hall, which also has been around for a while, but I just never made it to.

Speaker C:

That's in Times Square.

Speaker C:

It's.

Speaker C:

I don't know how I describe it.

Speaker C:

You, like, go downstairs into this big sort of dining room area that has this kind of art deco decor and like a fake skylight, and it kind of feels like you're in the Great Gatsby.

Speaker C:

But the chairs themselves were super uncomfortable.

Speaker C:

And I must say I'm not super familiar with Ms. Griffin's work.

Speaker C:

So I just stayed for who I came to see, which is SG Goodman performing by herself with an acoustic guitar not long after Newport Folk Fest, I think.

Speaker C:

And she killed it.

Speaker C:

She won the whole room over, and it was great.

Speaker C:

So the last song I brought today was Snapping Turtle, because that's my favorite song on her new album, Planting by the Signs.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I really hope this coming year she gets to do more headline tours because I saw she's opening for Jesse Wells and I'm like, Jess World, that Bill would be absolutely flipped or he just wouldn't be on the bill at all.

Speaker C:

But I think that's a different podcast.

Speaker A:

It's okay.

Speaker A:

I may get canceled for saying, how about just the SG Goodman part of it?

Speaker C:

Charles has his hot take side mine.

Speaker C:

That's a spicy one.

Speaker C:

But I stand by it.

Speaker A:

I'm wiki on that one.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

We just lost half our audience.

Speaker A:

It's all good.

Speaker A:

Stick around for more.

Speaker A:

It'll get worse, y'.

Speaker C:

All.

Speaker C:

How many people can we alienate by the second episode?

Speaker A:

That's right.

Speaker A:

New goals with a Z.

Speaker A:

So how about you, Charles?

Speaker A:

What else are you listening to?

Speaker B:

So my favorite band that I discovered this year is called Flory.

Speaker B:

They're from Philadelphia and it's a seven piece band and they're really young, I'm assuming all in their 20s.

Speaker B:

And the record is called Sounds like, and I'll talk about the first song, which is first it was a movie, then it was a book, which is a 7 minute, 7 plus minute song with just like ripping guitar riffs and really strange, chaotic vocals.

Speaker B:

It's a chaotic album, but Sort of.

Speaker B:

Once you get past that, there's 8,000 things happening.

Speaker B:

It's really interesting, really fun.

Speaker B:

It's fronted by a young woman named Francie Madoche, I believe is how you say it.

Speaker B:

And her singing voice is really unique.

Speaker B:

And I've introduced a lot of people to this record this year, and it all takes them a little while with her voice and Which I totally understand.

Speaker B:

Some people can't handle it.

Speaker B:

But what I love specifically about that first it was a movie song, is is that the guitar riffs are designed to sound fun.

Speaker B:

Like, why not show off a little bit with the guitar?

Speaker B:

And it feels like they're sort of Skynyrd type guitar riffs, but in the same way that Drive By Truckers did Skynyrd type guitar riffs, but with this idea that punk rock had happened.

Speaker B:

And then Flory, in my mind, does the same sort of guitar riffs, but with the idea that indie rock has happened.

Speaker B:

So it's a really interesting band.

Speaker B:

They have three records, two of which I've listened to.

Speaker B:

And it brings me a lot of joy that there are young people that are playing actual instruments and creating interesting and fun rock songs.

Speaker B:

So Flory is F L O R R Y and the album is called Sounds Like.

Speaker A:

I was not familiar with this band until you mentioned it recently.

Speaker A:

And I love this record.

Speaker A:

And at first I was.

Speaker A:

That first song is so as I love.

Speaker A:

I thought it was going to be an instrumental rock, which I am a huge fan of instrumental rock.

Speaker A:

And then the vocals came in and I was like, what?

Speaker A:

And then within like 30 seconds, I was like, oh, hell yeah.

Speaker A:

I am all about this record in this band.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So this band is in the same sort of universe as Fust that Rachel mentioned.

Speaker B:

M.J. linderman, Wednesday.

Speaker B:

All these sort of young rock bands that are fans of and aware of the music that the three of us sort of liked in our 20s and 30s, which one makes me feel old, but two makes me really happy.

Speaker B:

Floor seems to have quite the sense of humor and is willing to sort of not give it away.

Speaker B:

The second song on the record is called Waiting Around to provide, which I'm 98 certain is a play on the famous Town Van Zant song Waiting around to Die.

Speaker B:

So just that they're aware of music history makes me happy.

Speaker B:

Flory and MJ Linderman are going to be two of the openers for the Drive By Truckers at their homecoming shows at the 40 watt in February.

Speaker B:

And Patterson Hood is one of the people that I heard talk about.

Speaker B:

Flory.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

That's quite the nod.

Speaker C:

You know, we definitely have the same brain there.

Speaker C:

Because I was going to say something similar.

Speaker C:

I did not cover the album on Rainbow Rodeo, but we did have an interview with Florie on the site and ended up being one of the most visited pages on the site this year.

Speaker C:

But I don't know, when I listened to the album that first time.

Speaker C:

I just did a cover on Rainbow Rodeo, but, you know.

Speaker C:

But I did cover Weeknd Friends, and I think they're all kind of part of that same part and parcel.

Speaker C:

So I should give the album another listen.

Speaker C:

For sure.

Speaker B:

It's a grower because there's really like seven or eight things happening musically all in the same song that it can be overwhelming.

Speaker B:

But lyrically, she's doing something that I think is really interesting.

Speaker B:

She's in her 20s and presenting as someone in her 20s with this not just a raw vocal delivery, but raw sort of everyday lyric choice.

Speaker B:

So I love it, obviously.

Speaker B:

And Sloan, I'm.

Speaker B:

I'm happy that you heard what I heard.

Speaker A:

I was, like, cranking it up, like, immediately.

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

It spoke to me.

Speaker A:

As I said before, the lyrics even kicked in on the very first song.

Speaker A:

And it's interesting because they come across.

Speaker A:

I don't even know that this is the right word, but I'm gonna say as very genuine.

Speaker A:

Like, they are genuinely rocking out, and with all the instrumentation and all the this is who we are.

Speaker A:

Not in a, like, I know I'm cool kind of way.

Speaker A:

It comes across as, like, just very matter of factly, this is what we're doing.

Speaker A:

And I really like that.

Speaker B:

It's sort of guitar heroics to not show how cool you are, but to show how much fun you're having.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Francie, the singer.

Speaker B:

I've watched some YouTube videos.

Speaker B:

She's the lead guitar player, so it's not like she's hired people to play these big, giant riffs.

Speaker B:

She's playing them and, yeah, it's.

Speaker B:

It feels fun.

Speaker B:

Not cool.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

And in that, it becomes cool because they're just.

Speaker A:

That's exactly what I was not speaking to clearly.

Speaker B:

That's what I'm here for.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

I'm very excited that we're at Charles's feet as we keep going with this podcast.

Speaker A:

For sure.

Speaker A:

Same.

Speaker B:

Rachel.

Speaker B:

I would actually suggest if you haven't listened to their first record, I think technically it's their second called Holy Bible, it's a little less chaotic and the songwriting probably shines through a little better.

Speaker B:

So you might like that one more.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I'm putting it on my very extensive album cue, but I'm putting it on the top.

Speaker A:

That's the number one seal of approval right there, y'.

Speaker C:

All.

Speaker C:

Anything Charles says, I just do.

Speaker B:

Don't do that.

Speaker C:

Musically at least.

Speaker B:

I'm like 15 minutes in front of other people.

Speaker B:

I learn about it today, I'll tell you about it tomorrow.

Speaker A:

I love this.

Speaker A:

I love this.

Speaker A:

So I do have a new band that I saw this year that totally blew me away.

Speaker A:

And it was another example of, like, the opening act totally stole the show.

Speaker A:

So I went up to Winston Salem, North Carolina, to go see the Mitch Easter and friends play let's Active, which was a celebration of the let's Active catalog finally getting on streaming.

Speaker A:

And if y' all know anything about particularly bands through the 80s, the ownership rights to their tunes meant a lot of them have not had any kind of authority over what happens to their music for decades.

Speaker A:

So this was a big deal and I was super excited to see him.

Speaker A:

I have been fortunate to live enough in this general area that I have seen Mitch Easter play many, many, many times over the last five or six years.

Speaker A:

So I was going just because I had a free night and it was fun.

Speaker A:

But the opening band was one called Bass Battery and never heard of them, knew nothing about them.

Speaker A:

Couldn't find anything online up until the day before the show.

Speaker A:

And they were a rock duo of bass, guitar and drums.

Speaker A:

And it was as lush and full and mind blowing as when I saw Dexter Romweber and his sister as Dex Romweber duo.

Speaker A:

And if y' all ever saw Dex play guitar, like this guy was doing all of that on the bass.

Speaker A:

And it was unbelievable, mind blowing.

Speaker A:

So I had to like, go back a little bit and be like, who are these dudes?

Speaker A:

Like, this is my new favorite thing.

Speaker A:

And it turns out they've been around for a while.

Speaker A:

Norwood Cheek and Rob Ladd.

Speaker A:

Rob was one of the many drummers for various iterations of let's Active.

Speaker A:

Norwood is mostly known for doing music videos for literally everybody on the planet.

Speaker A:

Based out in LA these days, with extensive film credit and television credit.

Speaker A:

But they were fantastic.

Speaker A:

Turns out they recorded the record at Mitch Easter Studio Fidelatorium in North Carolina.

Speaker A:

They worked with someone else's producer, but the record has a lot more instrumentation on it.

Speaker A:

I don't think it loses out, but the record is very much a studio record.

Speaker A:

And the live duo performance is, in my opinion, more mind blowing.

Speaker A:

I am here for that what ought to be a stripped down show, but you End up being like, holy.

Speaker A:

How do they get that much sound out of just two instruments?

Speaker A:

So bass battery.

Speaker A:

, like, my total discovery of:

Speaker B:

So I went and listened to that record, and I.

Speaker B:

Like a.

Speaker B:

A handful of duos, but I. I'm always suspect, like, okay, what's the gimmick here?

Speaker B:

And, yeah, and I thought the record was really good.

Speaker B:

I'm not an expert with picking out instruments, so I had a feeling there was more than just bass and drums on the record.

Speaker B:

But there wasn't, like, guitars necessarily.

Speaker B:

Maybe that there was production.

Speaker B:

So you saw them live before you ever listened to them, Is that right?

Speaker A:

Correct.

Speaker A:

Correct.

Speaker B:

And then did you.

Speaker B:

Obviously, you went and listened to the record after that.

Speaker B:

You prefer live, Is that what you're saying?

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

And I may get canceled for it, but.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

No, you can't get canceled for that.

Speaker A:

I mean, it's a beautiful record, but.

Speaker A:

It's a beautiful record.

Speaker A:

But, like, like, no, nothing negative about that.

Speaker A:

Just they didn't grab me with the record.

Speaker A:

Whereas the full performance live, I was, like, standing up like, hell, yes.

Speaker A:

The whole time.

Speaker A:

It was amazing.

Speaker B:

So is the bass player playing with a pick, so.

Speaker A:

So I couldn't quite see well enough to see exactly what he was doing, but this is going to show my total lack of knowledge.

Speaker A:

And, Rachel, you play bass?

Speaker A:

You might know he plays bass like a guitar.

Speaker A:

Like, there was so much more going on.

Speaker C:

I guess you would need a pick for that.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So he was.

Speaker B:

He was kind of strumming the bass.

Speaker B:

Correct, huh?

Speaker A:

That's as well as.

Speaker A:

Yeah, like, so there was the normal.

Speaker A:

Like, my brother was a bass player, so I have observed a lot of bass playing.

Speaker A:

So it was way more like the bass was a guitar, but also keeping that rhythm section.

Speaker A:

Who is doing the singing, Nor would she.

Speaker A:

The bass player.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

But also Rob Ladd, the drummer.

Speaker B:

I always wonder, with the duos, do they just not have more friends or are they making an artistic choice?

Speaker A:

This.

Speaker A:

In this particular case, I can't speak to them, but I can speak to my observation of it, because all of their friends were literally there to play the set that came after.

Speaker A:

I think it was a choice.

Speaker A:

I was going to this show purposely just to have fun, and I was not videoing or recording anything.

Speaker A:

And now I am kicking myself because there were three professional video setups right in front of me that I thought were recording it.

Speaker A:

So I didn't hold up my phone or anything.

Speaker A:

Turns out none of them recorded the video, only the audio.

Speaker A:

I do have some bootleg audio from that Live set, but not one person that I can find.

Speaker A:

And nowhere on YouTube could I find video of it, which now is driving me bananas.

Speaker B:

Bass and drums feels so strange to me as, like, here's the band.

Speaker B:

But I enjoyed what I listened to, and if they ever came to Fort Collins and it was convenient and not terribly expensive, I would absolutely go.

Speaker A:

All I've done is, like, online snooping, so I am not the expert here, and I'm.

Speaker A:

When you look up Rob Ladd's credits, you'll see why I'm being a little evasive about it.

Speaker A:

Rob has played with everybody, and they both bring a wealth of credits, experience, fun to this duo, and it comes across as they wanted to make whatever the hell they wanted to make, and it's fantastic.

Speaker A:

That's how it came across.

Speaker B:

Isn't it exciting, Sloan, that you've seen hundreds and hundreds of bands live, that you can still get excited?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Just on a random night, seeing the opening band.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

People joke.

Speaker A:

So a million years ago, I used to sell shirts that said, always see the opening band, because that's always been, like, my life motto.

Speaker A:

And I am lucky that I have seen hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of bands.

Speaker A:

I do.

Speaker A:

I live for live music.

Speaker A:

But, yeah, it was one of those where I was, like, blown away and then, like, excited, because I was blown away.

Speaker B:

I bet you were excited that you had a podcast coming so you could talk about it.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Not gonna lie.

Speaker C:

That's why we're doing what we're doing.

Speaker B:

It's half of the fun of when you find a band that you get to tell someone else about it.

Speaker A:

Totally.

Speaker C:

I mean, totally.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I mean, it's.

Speaker B:

Honestly, it's like, 90% of my social life.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

That brings up a question for all three of us, specifically.

Speaker A:

I'll start with you, Rachel.

Speaker A:

When you get a chance to, like, share music with people, what's your first response?

Speaker A:

Like, how do you want to do that?

Speaker C:

I guess it's changed over the years, but if there's something I'm really excited about, right away, I'll share it on Discord.

Speaker C:

And then now, I guess Blue sky just be like, holy shit, you got to listen to this.

Speaker C:

My friends don't typically have the same taste of music as me, so I'll send it to the people who I know will appreciate it.

Speaker A:

That's relatable.

Speaker A:

My friends do not listen to my music either, except for my friends I know through music.

Speaker B:

I have a different answer to that just because I own a record store, which I work in almost every day.

Speaker B:

And so if I'm excited about something, it can come off as I'm trying to sell someone something, which is part of the truth.

Speaker B:

But I've learned over the last three and a half years that it's more effective to get someone to try some music if I don't try to sell them the album and say something like, take a photo of the COVID and go check it out.

Speaker B:

Because I feel like people enjoy discovering music on their own.

Speaker B:

And if I come in with the heavy hand, I don't know, it feels like it, it can mess that up.

Speaker B:

But it, it is really exciting.

Speaker B:

When I come across something, I can show it to someone and if they take the photo, they come back a week later and they say something like, you're right about this.

Speaker B:

I love that band kind of thing.

Speaker B:

I mean, I get to do that almost every day.

Speaker A:

That's amazing.

Speaker B:

Get to do that and not like when you're running a radio show because you don't get to, you don't get to see the other person and you don't get to talk to the other person.

Speaker B:

And I also feel like I have a lot of customers that are, are stuck in one time period.

Speaker A:

Huh.

Speaker B:

And so I really value the customers that come in that are not stuck, that are, what are the kids doing now?

Speaker B:

Kind of thing.

Speaker A:

Definitely.

Speaker A:

Charles, can I quickly put you on the spot about like the funniest story I have ever heard about your record store?

Speaker A:

Yes, please tell us about your midnight Taylor Swift release.

Speaker B:

Okay, so the record store is called Driver 8 Records.

Speaker B:

Obviously it's a nod to remember who's from the same town that I'm from.

Speaker B:

So I guess it was a year and a half ago whenever the Tortured Poets album came out.

Speaker B:

And I'm a 48 year old man who knows way too much about Taylor Swift at this point.

Speaker B:

But one of my regular customers, who also owns a marketing company and is a huge Taylor Swift fan and also likes to study Taylor Swift came to me and was like, hey, we should have, we should host a listening party for the new Taylor Swift album.

Speaker B:

Like a midnight listening party.

Speaker B:

And I said, okay, why?

Speaker B:

And you know, she made the case it would be fun, you know, like we did when we were kids getting to finally hear the album.

Speaker B:

And she sort of pitched it to me as like, you've probably got a lot of adult Taylor Swift fans that would, would love to come and listen to the record sort of as soon as possible.

Speaker B:

My store is really small, 550 square feet, so we can't put a lot of people in there.

Speaker B:

But I agreed to this Taylor Swift party and we started promoting it and I heard from customers that they were excited about it.

Speaker B:

And then maybe three weeks before the album got released, one of my customers mentioned that the public school district in Fort Collins didn't have school the next day.

Speaker B:

It was like a teacher work day.

Speaker B:

And so they were going to come and they were going to bring their kids.

Speaker B:

And I immediately realized that this party was going to be way different than I had in mind.

Speaker B:

So we, we had it.

Speaker B:

Party starts at 10.

Speaker B:

e new record on vinyl at like:

Speaker B:

I was hoping it was a long, a long album.

Speaker B:

use I can't sell copies until:

Speaker B:

But then we get to that Thursday night, it's two minutes before 10pm and people are waiting to come in.

Speaker B:

At three minutes after 10 o' clock we have about 30 people in the store, most of which are like shorter than 4ft tall.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

And by like 10 minutes after 10, there's 40 people in there and we can't fit any more people in there.

Speaker B:

And we had a like a friendship bracelet making station.

Speaker B:

We had a Polaroid photo booth kind of thing and we were playing older Taylor Swift songs.

Speaker B:

So it's jam packed with a bunch of little kids.

Speaker B:

This is not my kind of event.

Speaker B:

And people kept asking me when we were going to start the new record.

Speaker B:

So we started it earlier than I had hoped and we listened to it a full time and it was not as long as I had hoped.

Speaker B:

So then we started it again and people started leaving, which was fine that people were leaving because a lot of people had pre ordered the album from Taylor's website, which I didn't know was a thing at that point.

Speaker B:

There was also a lot of stress with getting the record because Taylor has her own rules for shipping.

Speaker B:

So until like 2 o' clock that afternoon, I didn't have any records and I wasn't sure that I was gonna have any records.

Speaker B:

So I, I spent that entire week worried that I was about to throw a Taylor Swift party with a whole bunch of young girls that were expecting the record and then we would not have it.

Speaker A:

My goodness.

Speaker B:

But then the record showed up and we had all the colors that people wanted.

Speaker B:

We ended up playing the record twice and everybody left happy.

Speaker B:

I sold enough records to make me happy and all the young kids were really, really happy.

Speaker B:

But I'm still finding the little friendship bracelet beads.

Speaker B:

That's big.

Speaker B:

That are big in the Taylor Swift world.

Speaker B:

I still find them in the store because we made a gigantic mess.

Speaker C:

No more beads.

Speaker B:

And I've definitely had people ask me if I was going to do that again, which I'm not.

Speaker A:

I'm totally making a dive bar music club bracelet and sending it to you.

Speaker B:

Well, one person did make me a bracelet and one of the young women that were there did come back like a week later with a nice thank you note.

Speaker B:

So clearly she has good parents.

Speaker A:

Sweet.

Speaker B:

No more Taylor Swift parties.

Speaker B:

We primarily have Taylor Swift records in the store to help out parents.

Speaker B:

It's parents that buy records, but they have kids that want the Taylor Swift records, so we have them there for the parents to buy while they're buying their own records.

Speaker A:

As a former middle school teacher, this is hilarious.

Speaker B:

I felt like a middle school teacher, but they might have all been in high school.

Speaker B:

I'm a 48 year old guy who wants a refrigerator that makes its own ice.

Speaker B:

I don't have any children, so I, I should not be too involved in the Taylor Swift world.

Speaker B:

But if you've got questions, I, I could answer them.

Speaker C:

I was gonna ask, wasn't the album like horrendous?

Speaker C:

Like, were they disappointed by that or did they just not care?

Speaker B:

No, I don't think anybody was disappointed that evening.

Speaker B:

A lot of what I was sort of overhearing is that Taylor had only released the names of the songs before the album came out.

Speaker B:

So all the fans knew the names of the songs and were wondering, what's this song named?

Speaker B:

This gonna be like or be about?

Speaker B:

So it was a lot of listening.

Speaker B:

Like, yeah, trying to find the Easter eggs because Taylor loves the Easter eggs.

Speaker A:

What an interesting universe in fandom.

Speaker B:

It's really unreal.

Speaker B:

I don't think that record has had as much lasting power as some of her other records.

Speaker B:

At least not with the people that come in my store.

Speaker B:

But no one left.

Speaker B:

Being like, this is not what I expected because they're 14.

Speaker A:

I have no Taylor Swift in my life and I am completely unqualified to comment on any of this.

Speaker A:

And I think that's part of why this story is so funny to me.

Speaker A:

Thank you for sharing.

Speaker C:

Yeah, my adult Taylor Swift fans, most of whom are gaylors, were very disappointed by the album.

Speaker C:

I'm just imagining Charles like in like a 90s kids movie.

Speaker C:

Like, you know, like Steve Martin on the poster for.

Speaker C:

What was it?

Speaker C:

The one where he has 12 kids and he's like imagining Charles like that.

Speaker A:

Oh yeah, what was that?

Speaker A:

Cheaper by the dozen.

Speaker C:

Cheaper by the dozen.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Oh, my gosh.

Speaker B:

I was just gonna say, I hope it's the last time I talk about Taylor Swift on this podcast.

Speaker A:

I won't ask you again, I promise.

Speaker A:

So, Rachel, what do you have creatively coming up in the next month or so?

Speaker C:

I'm just kind of waiting and seeing on some, like, real life stuff before I make any big plans for Rainbow Rodeo.

Speaker C:

Not to be too cryptic.

Speaker A:

No worries.

Speaker C:

But other than that.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I'm thinking, like, I've had a couple of live, you know, concerts with the Rainbow Rodeo name around town, and I want to be more intentional this year.

Speaker C:

Like, actually book them more than a month in advance and then book artists more than a month in advance.

Speaker C:

I think that'll just be better for everybody.

Speaker C:

So that's my big plan for this year so far.

Speaker A:

That's a large goal.

Speaker A:

I mean, there's.

Speaker A:

I used to host a house concert series, and so I have a tiny taste of what that entails, and it's a lot.

Speaker A:

Charles, how about you?

Speaker A:

Listeners may not realize you have the record store Driver eight Records, but you also host a radio show.

Speaker A:

So just in general creatively regarding music, what do you have coming up in the next month or so?

Speaker B:

My primary creative outlet is doing the weekly radio show.

Speaker B:

I don't know if I have anything specific planned for the show when I put it together.

Speaker B:

Usually I start on Tuesday evening.

Speaker B:

Sometimes I have an idea for a couple of songs I want to string together and then sort of go from there.

Speaker B:

Sometimes it's just throwing 30 records in my crate and going to do it.

Speaker B:

So I will say my favorite radio show that I put together last year was I made a list of my 25 favorite records from the first 25 years of this century.

Speaker B:

And that was a really fun exercise to think about.

Speaker B:

Starting in:

Speaker B:

What did I love?

Speaker C:

And.

Speaker B:

And I went back and listened to a lot of stuff that I hadn't listened to in years and sort of knew it all and was.

Speaker B:

Was like, yep, this is still one of my favorites.

Speaker B:

t of favorite radio show from:

Speaker B:

But that also took like three or four weeks worth of work to put.

Speaker A:

That together for sure for listeners.

Speaker A:

Thanks so much for joining us here with Dive Bar Music Club.

Speaker A:

We'll try to throw in the links to all the bands we talked about today.

Speaker A:

Musicians.

Speaker A:

I use band kind of as the big tent descriptor, but also for Rainbow Rodeo and Adobe and Teardrops.

Speaker A:

And for Charles's radio show in the record store and all that good stuff.

Speaker A:

I'm going to throw together a playlist as well.

Speaker A:

That's last call at Dive Bar Music Club.

Speaker A:

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Speaker A:

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Speaker A:

See y' all next time for the low key, high taste happy hour for music nerds.

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