Hill is a four-letter word no longer; Holly Brooks, a two-time Olympian and two-time winner of the Mount Marathon, inspires us to embrace the climb .

Among other things, Holly explains:

—The importance being aware of your self-talk;

—The concept of Central Governor (why your brain often says quit before your body is ready);

—How to reframe a tough workout to focus on the benefits; and

—Why dividing a hill into thirds can help you conquer it more efficiently.

At the end, Holly and Dimity chat a bit about Moms Matter Now and perinatal mental health; look for a full episode later this year.

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