Ever wonder why some podcasts spread like wildfire while others wither on the vine? Well, it turns out that a whopping 60 to 80% of podcasts are discovered through good old-fashioned word of mouth.

Yeah, that means if your podcast isn’t getting shared, there’s a reason. So, what’s the secret sauce that makes people hit that share button? In this episode, I research the world of shareable content — you know, the kind that makes your friends feel like they need to hear it.

Spoiler alert: it’s all about that emotional connection and delivering value. Plus, I’ll throw in some advice on being a better podcaster and maybe even a better dad. We also take a listen to the Zoom Podtrak P2

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Takeaways:

• Around 60 to 80% of podcasts are found through sharing, so that's a big deal.
• Good content isn't just about being decent; it has to be downright irresistible to share.
• We often share things based on the feels—if it hits us in the feels, we share it.
• To get people to share, your content should be emotionally engaging, practical, and visually appealing.

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Ever have a thought come in your head that just will not leave your brain alone? Because I had this. Because I realized that somewhere between 60 and 80% of podcasts are discovered via word of mouth.

And I know your show isn't bad, this show isn't bad. I think it's good. But on the other hand, are people sharing this on a regular basis? And if not, what do I need to add to make this more shareable?

And so I spent quite a few days digging through Google searches and books and, and blog posts and everything else and I kind of put it together. And so today we're going to talk about what makes your show more shareable that's going to inspire people to share it.

I am your award winning hall of fame podcast coach, Dave Jackson. Thanking you so much for tuning in. If you are new to the show, this is where I help you plan, launch and grow your podcast.

My website is schoolofpodcasting.com use the coupon code listener. That's L I S T E N E R when you sign up for either a monthly, quarterly or yearly subscription.

And of course that comes with a 30 day money back guarantee. And this felt like it was not that long ago, but it turns out it was. It was almost 200 episodes ago.

I did a question of the month asking what was the last thing you shared and why? Because I kind of got.

We have group coaching every Friday at the School of Podcasting and we're talking about growing shows as we do, you know, getting more downloads, getting more exposure. And we all know maybe if you've never heard this, somewhere between 65 and 75% of podcasts are discovered via word of mouth.

And so a lot of people like to point at YouTube and talk about their algorithm and that definitely is something that works. But I already have an algorithm. His name is Doug and he knows exactly what I like and he recommends things to me really, since I was born.

He's my brother. And so I get it that we have no discoverability, but I kind of go, mmm, do we really?

But I realized that so many times and I consider this show in this category. It's a good show, right? I do my best to never waste your time, but is it so good that you can't help but Share it with a friend.

And so I did a lot of digging into this and I was like, well, what's the definition? If I could come up with one? And we talked about this. Every Saturday I do a live show. And so I took some feedback from that.

So good content, you know, we have my stock answer. It makes you laugh, cry, think grown, educate, or entertain, but it's basically, it's informative. It's. It's organized in a way, right?

It's not just somebody like I can be, you know, ADHD theater. It's just crazy, right? But if it's a little organized, it's engaging.

Because good content is, or I should say good episodes are made up of good content that resonates, delivered in an educational or entertaining way, in other words, which is kind of the duh. It provides value for the audience. And that starts by paying attention to the audience needs and their interests, their desires, right?

Find out what they want and give it to them. And then as I looked into sharing, Chris Stone from castahead.net brought up a really great point.

A lot of times we share stuff based on the way it makes you feel. And if you know somebody that would feel the same way, then you may share it with them. So here again, I go back to my brother. We're very similar.

And so if I find something and I really like it, there are two people I'm going to share it with. One is my brother, and one is. Might as well be my third brother or my second brother, which is a friend I've had since I was in sixth grade.

We were all very similar. And so it's shareable content, it's good content. Again, kind of a duh.

But it also contains elements that compels the audience to share it with others and spreading its reach and its impact. And one of those, again, is how it makes you feel. I'll give you an example. I just saw the movie the Life of Chuck. It's a Stephen King story.

It's a movie. And in the movie it talks about a man who as a young child loved to dance. And it shows him being very good at dancing.

And then he just gets very self conscious and quits dancing. I had a time like that in my life. When I was in my 20s, I would go out with my friends to different places. We were there to Dance.

Now, we were there trying to pick up females because we were 20 year old males and that's what you do.

And it got to the point where I realized if I was going to get out on the dance floor because that's where the girls were, I had to figure out how to dance. And somewhere along the line I got pretty good at it. Actually won a contest once at a very small little pub.

But there was also, I should say, if I'm going to be completely honest, there was some liquid courage involved in that. But along the way, if you asked me to get on a dance floor, now I'm just not going to do it.

And so that movie resonated with me because it made me nostalgic. So I think a part of it is how it makes you feel. So let's talk about that.

This is where if you want people to feel sad or melancholy, this is where sometimes adding some music, you know, throw in some cellos and people start weeping. Especially if it's in the key of D minor, because it's the saddest of all keys. It's a Spinal Tap joke, like four musicians get that joke.

But nonetheless, you can use background music to help create the mood. Whether it's sad, happy, whatever. There are ways you can do this to increase the feeling part of your show.

Another thing that can make people share and I'll put a link to this. My buddy Colin gray did a YouTube video about five podcasters that added video to their audio podcast and what it did or did not do for them.

And he did it in such a way that is unbiased, it was accurate and it was well delivered. And it resonated with me.

And I know it resonates with you because I just did episode 986 with Thomas Umstadt Jr talking about adding YouTube to the mix of which I also want to say thanks to Nick, who gave me a shout out on the Sound off podcast with Matt Kundell. So, Nick, thanks so much for that. Nick. I know Nick from YouTube. He's the podmaster. And so thanks for the shout out.

But Collins video, again, resonated with me because it's what I'm looking for.

It was delivered in a very educational fashion because he, like I, we're both teachers and it addresses issues that we're kind of trying to figure out. And when I saw it, I was like, oh, this is really good information. It resonates with me. It should resonate with you.

And then there's another thing why people share, and that is we want to look cool. Yes, it's true. We want to be the cool guy that finds it. I don't know.

Back in the day, when music wasn't like water, just streaming 24 7, it was always cool to be the first person to get that album and find the new band. Back in the day, I'm still kind of a metalhead. I remember the band Crocus, and I knew who Quiet Riot was before they were famous.

You know, I was always finding these new bands, and so I wanted to be the guy that was like, oh, yeah. You know, they're like, oh, Motley Crue. I'm like, oh, yeah, I've already got two Fast for Love. I've already.

I've known about those guys for years now, that kind of thing.

So this is where, when you deliver that accurate, that entertaining, that you can't get anyplace else kind of content, your audience may share that because they want to look cool sharing it with their friends. But if it's just the same old, same old, then they're not going to look as cool. Like.

One example is this week, Spotify, who is not known at all for embracing any open kind of standards, has added transcriptions to their service. Now, they've kind of said, oh, we're gonna do this, and you can upload your own.

And James Cridlin from podnews.net is testing some stuff, but at least they have announced that, yeah, we're gonna have transcriptions. And everybody's excited because that is a podcasting 2.0. So now we have Apple, who has embraced transcriptions and Spotify.

And while that's hopeful that they'll embrace More podcasting 2.0 stuff, I'm not holding my breath on Spotify, but that's a whole other discussion. But in terms of sharing it, everybody shared it because, a, it's kind of big news. It's like, who?

And so people shared it because it would resonate with people in the podcasting space. Likewise, a study came out this week that said, hey, YouTube isn't really the number one thing for podcast consumption.

And a lot of people, like, see, told you. It's not all about video.

And I'm working on an episode about that that I'll probably put out as a bonus maybe, because I'm doing a lot of insights into that, Hence why Colin's video resonated with me. Remember here? So the characteristics of shareable content, how does it make your audience feel? Is it happiness? Is it surprise? Is it controversy?

You know, sometimes things like statistics and Testimonials, all those. That's kind of social proof. Some people share that. Like, see, I told you.

The other thing you have to think about, if you're talking about social media, the prettier you can make it. That's always good. I mean, if you think about it, half the reason people shared the AI baby videos is because they were really cute.

And now what's funny is that was new, I don't know, three weeks ago. And now we're all like, yeah, it's another baby video.

Another thing that people can share is if you have a guest that is a big name that doesn't do many interviews or does it in a different format. So one of the reasons I think the YouTube show Hot Wings works is we've all seen all these people do interviews.

We've never seen them with their mouth on fire, try to answer questions. But recently, the lead singer of U2, better known as Bono, was on the Joe Rogan Show. So it's not always, again, the guest.

It might be the guest and the format. Because much like Hot Wings, Joe Rogan does really long in depth interviews. And so that stopped me in my track.

So that is something that can be very shareable because it's like, hey, here's something new. It's a new format. Bono long form. It might be case studies.

So again, pointing back at Colin Gray and as well as statistics, any kind of statistics about your industry can be very shareable because we all want to make sure we're all up to date. Hence the Spotify announcement and hence the YouTube announcement this week that went out, all this kind of stuff.

We're all trying to keep each other up to speed, then those are the things that are shareable. Now, when you sit back and go, okay, so what's the recipe again, Dave? Can you kind of summarize that?

Well, we said that good content, again, I always say this makes you laugh, cry, think grown, educate or entertain. But it's engaging. It captures the attention of the audience, which kind of starts with knowing your audience. That's always kind of key.

Number one to any kind of podcast question. You have to know your audience, then make it engaging, make it relevant.

So any kind of timely issues or, I don't know, specific interests, whatever your target audience is interested in. And then what makes it shareable is the emotional part, Is it going to resonate emotionally?

Is it going to make them happy or surprised or if it's controversial, you know, might make them angry? Sometimes the most shareable stuff is they're like did you see what somebody wrote?

And then any kind of testimonials or statistics, that social proof kind of stuff that said, see, See, I told you. Look what's going on. That gets shared a lot. Again, you have to make it somewhat visually appealing.

But another one that really gets shared a lot is content that can solve a problem. And coming up in a bit here, I'm going to solve the problem of, hey, I bought two USB microphones, and I'm trying to plug them into a computer.

I've got a solution for that. But just to give you an example, I look at this video every year. It has 327,000 views. What is that video? It's called. Let me pull it back up.

I just had it. The actual title is Ceiling Fan Direction. Summer versus Winter. Because it is getting hot here.

And I'm like, wait, do I want to go in counterclockwise or clockwise or whatever? And so I'm sure every winter, every summer, this person gets views on that YouTube video.

So when you can help solve a problem and somebody asked the question in Reddit and they're like, hey, how do I do this? With a blank, blank, blank. Somebody can go, oh, they solve it in this episode right here. That's something that makes it very shareable.

And I want to kind of wrap this up, because I haven't golfed on a course in forever, and occasionally I will go to a driving range and try to, you know, hit a bucket of balls.

And I have learned over the years, because I'm a horrible golfer, that when you try to just send it into, you know, the moon, you're swinging as hard as you can, forget about it, because your accuracy goes right out the window. If you just try to make good contact with the ball and the club, that thing will go a mile.

And so when I was talking about this on Ask the Podcast Coach, my buddy Jim Collison from Home Gadget Geeks said, well, and he used the analogy of American baseball. And in that game, right, you have singles, doubles, triples, and home runs.

And he said, so many times, we think it has to be a home run, and it doesn't. If you hit four singles, you score. Now, it's not as showy.

It's not as wow as hitting a home run, but in the end, if you can get points on the board, you win. And that's where I think so many people talk about being consistent. And it is huge to have a consistent schedule.

But it's also, I think, more important to have consistent content. And I Always use the analogy of books. I have a couple books that I've started to read, and by chapter six or seven, if you've had, like.

Because chapter one is always stupid. It's like, here's what we're going to talk about in this book.

And in this chapter, we're going to talk about this in the next chapter, we're going to talk about that in the next chapter of that. I'm like, hey, if you would quit telling me what's in the chapters and just get to the chapters. I already bought the book.

You don't have to sell me on it. Holy cow. But I. So chapter one is always a throwaway.

But if I get like two or three chapters in a way, or if I just get the feeling I'm not the target audience for this book, doesn't mean it's a bad book. It means it's not for me. I will quit reading that book. And in many cases, that means I'm going to quit listening to the book.

But you want to be consistent in your content, because if you have too many episodes that just don't fit, that's not going to work. And so when Jim was talking about this, I said, you know, it's a great analogy.

Some episodes are singles, some episodes are doubles, and some of them are home runs. And I like.

But you've got to have every episode be about baseball because just you cannot have a show about topic A and then come on and start talking about topic K. That's not going to work, right? So if I'm playing baseball and come up and try to shoot a basket, they're going to be like, what? What are you doing?

What? We're here to talk about baseball. So not everything's going to be a home run. Not everything's going to get shared. And that's perfectly fine.

We would love it to be shared because we know how important shares are. I just started watching a video on Netflix called Blind Spot. Why? Because my ex wife recommended it years ago and I never watched it.

And when it came up, I was like, oh, I remember that show. You know, Ex Life number one said that was good. And I was like, huh? She usually had a pretty good idea of what was good.

So I started watching it, and it's got a ton of I wonder what's going to happen next. That's.

We've talked about that in terms of keeping people listening, not so much getting them to share it, but if there's enough of like, hey, I need help figuring this out, then maybe they'll share that as well. But the whole point is when you know your audience and again, everything starts with there, you can come up with content that's going to resonate.

Maybe you can pull on some emotional strings. And yeah, as long as you're hitting singles, doubles, triples, and the occasional home run, you're going to score points. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you might be thinking, well, Dave, I'm. I'm pretty sure I'm doing that. I know what my audience wants, etc. Etc. Remember, there are two parts. There's content and delivery.

And delivery has to be, you know, educational in a way. It needs to be entertaining, depending on what your show's about, and it needs to hold their attention. It can't be annoying, I guess, is the thing.

And that just takes practice like everything else. So that's my thoughts on what makes something shareable. And as you go through now, keep track of the things you share and stop and ask yourself why.

And I think you'll find these particular traits come into play more often than not. Hey, I got a quick tip and I'm going to throw this in because as I record this, it's Father's Day, so happy Father's Day to all the fathers.

And that is, here's a way to get better at delivering content, and that is read to your kids or your grandkids. Read out loud to them. It gets you used to working with a script. It gets you used to seeing words on a page and having them come out of your mouth.

And I got this from Satyros, who does the Voice of Greece show. Find him@voiceofgreece.com He's a member of the school of podcasting. And I said, man, you read really good.

Because I know he's reading, but it didn't sound like he was reading. He has a lot of voice inflection, and he really considers it storytelling. And so his voice inflection was amazing.

And he said, well, I've been reading my son since he was, you know, the size of a shoe or whatever. You know, you get the idea. And I was like, that's a really great idea. It's great practice.

So whoever you are, a mother or a father, read to your kids, because how do I say this politely in some kids, in some cases older kids. So not little itty bitty kids, but like kids that should know stuff, don't know stuff, and it's kind of spooky. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Next up, we're going to talk about the Zoom Podtrak. P2. This particular unit, I think, has one key purpose, and that is for people that want to travel on the road with almost no gear.

Or if you want to podcast live from the forest, because it runs on batteries as well. But primarily, I see people, they didn't realize it. They go by two Samsung Q2US or the.

When you try to plug this into a laptop, it becomes a bit of a headache. And so you could plug it into the Zoom Podtrak P2. It does work as an interface and a recorder at the same time.

But if I put a compressor on it built in, you'll notice if you have headphones on, there's a lot of background noise. In fact, my neighbor is mowing the lawn. If I really wanted to, I could, you know, turn, get the windows open. But that's. It's very. Yeah, it's.

It's a pretty aggressive compressor, but if I wanted to sing now, it doesn't blow up. Ay, yeah. Okay. Now if I this, there's a tone button that's going to boost the bass and the treble.

So already my sibilance on this microphone, she sells seashells down by the seashore. If I now hit tone, now I've got a whole bunch of bass and it sounds like they scooped out the mids. And so now if I say seashell.

Seashells down by the seashore. That's kind of weird. And there's a mute button that it does that. Yep, there we go.

I do like the fact that it doesn't make any noise when I hit the mute button. And then there is an AI because, you know, everything has AI noise reduction. So I'm going to shut up and I press and kind of hold this down.

And now it's taken out the background hiss, which is kind of cool because I don't really hear it kind of coming in and out like a noise gate. It's figured out those frequencies and just taken those out. So this is me with everything on. We've got the Tone button.

We've got the compressor on, so let's turn off the. Let's turn off the compressor. This is just me with the tone and you can see it makes a pretty big difference in the volume. And now it's back on.

I'll turn off tone. So this is me just with the compressor. This is me with nothing but the noise reduction.

And now this is me with the microphone just going into the Zoom Pod Track P2. Now, my buddy Chris Stone over at Cast Ahead dot net, he has a slightly older phone than I do.

I have an iPhone 16 and I was able to plug in via USB to USB C, right? USB C to C into this unit. So you could have two microphones plugged in and a phone.

And so I needed somebody to call so I called my brother and caught my brother and my sister in law in the car. Yeah, it's a. Sounds like when you do a podcast it sounds like that. Not just like, hey Dave, what's up? Okay, we're gonna go buy dirt.

Nothing more fun than buying dirt. So that was listenable for basically being on a speakerphone in a van. And the interesting thing is the unit is 32 bit float.

Now that's a real geeky term. It just basically means you can.

It's almost impossible to record bad audio on it because if it's too loud you can go in in post production, so in Hindenburg or Audacity or whatever you're using and turn down the volume and it won't be all distorted. Likewise, usually if you record too quiet and then you later go into your software and you turn it up, it's all really hissy.

I do love the fact that they have the Rode podmic, which is what I'm using right now. They have some other ones on here, the Samsung Q2U and the.

In terms of Shure, which is what I would be looking for, they have the Shure MV6, so I'll put a link to that out in the show notes.

But again, if you're looking for super easy, right, Plug your two USB microphones in if you want to have a guest you could, you know, fire up Riverside on your phone or Zoom, I guess, if you wanted to, or FaceTime if you wanted to. Anything on your phone, it brings it into that.

Now they have headphones out for each person, so you and your co host, but there's only one volume knob. So if you have somebody like me who's deaf and somebody who is not, I'm gonna crank that thing up and blow their head off.

So that was one thing that I was like. And then to finish a thought, I brought up Chris Stone. Chris showed me a quick demo of it, and that's what made me go buy it. And he had an iPhone 14.

So not like a super old phone, but not super new. And he was having a hard time getting it to use the phone function. So that may be something that's only available on newer phones.

And then the other thing is, as much as this is so portable, I'm sure somebody has to make a case for this thing because it is plastic and it does not instill a ton of confidence that if I accidentally drop this thing like I did my phone today, that it's going to. It's really. It's not cheap. It just, again, you don't hold it and go, ooh, this is sturdy. It's like, Oooh, this is 99 bucks. Which is the other thing.

When I bought it, it was 99 bucks. And I was like, oh, holy cow. That's kind of a steal.

Especially if you're in that situation where, hey, I bought two USD B microphones and I'm having a hard time plugging them in. It's now $150. It was 99 bucks when it first came out, and that's when I got mine.

So I don't know if that's a, a tariff thing or what, but it's 149 and it's simple to use. You can, like I said, it runs on batteries you could use it with because it has a USB cable for it to be powered.

So you could either use one of those little power bricks or if you just have, you know, your adapter to plug it into the wall, you could use it that way. But it's. It's got, like I say, I don't know that I would recommend this, but I would recommend it.

If somebody said, hey, we bought two USB microphones, I would go to that list, see if those microphones are on the list. I'd be like, this is an easy solution. And it was pretty easy to figure out. Not much of a learning Curve there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Another announcement that came out this week was my old stomping grounds. I was the head of podcasting over at Libsyn for many years before I came over to PodPage, where I am the head of podcasting. I like that title.

And it used to be you had to have at least 2,000 downloads an episode, I believe, to be participating in their ad program. And they have dropped that. Pretty much anybody can now get involved with their advertising. And they have a calculator.

I'll put a link to it in the show notes. And I said, hey, what if I get 100 downloads an episode and I do 52 episodes a week and I just want one ad slot? Like, I don't want to go too crazy.

Maybe my show is only 15 minutes. I was thinking about the show building a better Dave, and the industry standard, they say right now for an ad spot is 25 bucks.

So I did that, and I said, hey. And it said, Hey, 400 downloads a month, $8 a month with 100 downloads. So that'd be 400 downloads a month for 8 bucks.

So I threw that into my calculator to like, okay, as much as I always say, don't charge cpm, in the end, we all kind of go back and at least do the calculation. So if I was making $8 divided by 400 downloads, right? Because I was doing 100 downloads a month, that equals 2 cents a download.

That's $20 CPM, which I was surprised because I thought this was more their programmatic ads, which are usually around $0.05 or.005 cents a download. It's usually $5 CPM. So if you're on Libsyn and you're looking to help pay for that media host, it may be something that you want to look into.

I would ask them up front, like, what's the average CPM?

I know it says 25 on the website, but depending on your downloads, I always thought you had to have at least 10,000 downloads to get that kind of $20 plus CPM. Again, CPM stands for price per thousand, but they've removed the limits so anybody can participate. It might be something you want to check out.

It was episode 421, and I just wanted to kind of talk about the topic of his latest book called Lean Learning how to Achieve More by Learning Less. And As I listened to it, I'm only through the first chapter. I got it on audible. I have links in the show notes.

But he makes a great point, because you know how I had that thing where I talked about running your podcast as a business, and you may have these expenses that you kind of forgot about and turned out I had over 300 domains, and I've sold some of those. I've let some of them go.

I have over 30 courses on everything from SEO, a lot of YouTube stuff, and I keep buying them, thinking, yeah, I'll get around to those one day. And the way you get around to those one day is by putting it on your calendar.

And the thing I wanted to point out is we would love to sit down and just have a day and just blow through everything. Kind of treat it like when you have to cram for an exam. And I'm just here to say that typically never happens if you have any kind of family.

And so I've been working with some people, a coach, and at times I will go, I've only got an hour and a half. You would be surprised what you can get done in an hour and a half. And I always feel better than I did.

And I feel much better than, well, I don't know, doing nothing and hoping that, well, maybe I'll get more time later in the week. And so with only listening to the first chapter of this book, the idea is, you need to stop learning and start doing.

Because we learn and learn and learn and learn some more and then learn some more. And if we never take action, then it just, what's the point?

And the idea of this book is you learn enough to take action, and then if you get stuck, well, then you learn a little more, and then you take some action. Because so many people never take action.

And I am finding already that by working with a coach for the business side of the school of podcasting, and I've taken some action, and it's already paid for the coach. So there are times when we're waiting for things to be perfect or we want to do this or we want to do that.

We're like, well, I've got to do this first. I got to do that first. Take action. And, you know, you can always improve it later. Now, I'm a big fan, of course, always getting feedback.

If we're talking about your podcast, I just wanted to point out that sometimes we have to step back and go, ooh, you know what? I've been doing a whole lot of learning, and not a whole Lot of putting that new education into action. And that's the fun part.

That's the fun part of learning. You're like, ooh, that sounds cool. Let's try it. And then you do, and you go, ooh, that worked.

Not exactly the way I wanted it to, but what if I tweaked it this way and then you tweak it that way and all of a sudden it starts to work? And so I just want to let you know if you're a fan of either reading or listening.

Pat Flynn has a new book out, Lean Learning how to Achieve More by Learning Less. I'll have links in the show notes. And of course, the cool thing is Pat reads the book himself, which makes it feel like I'm looking at the page.

How long is this gizmo? It's like having a really long podcast from Pat Flynn. Five hours and 28 minutes. So you get your money's worth out of that.

So if you're a reader or a listener, like I said, I know I'm only one chapter in, but Pat Flynn is one of those guys that, in my opinion, doesn't put out caca. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One last thing before we start to wrap up. I am thinking of bringing back a course I used to do that was live.

It was called Podcasting in six Weeks. And this is where you go through. It's a small group of people. We all go through together. And the first week is like planning.

The second week is like equipment, et cetera, et cetera, and you learn something every week, and it's live. And so you go through. And by the sixth week, and this requires that not just the day we meet, but the other six days you're working on this.

It's kind of a yes, it's sped up, but if you've done the homework, you should be in the right place. And if that sounds like something that interests you, let me know.

You can go to schoolofpodcasting.com contact and say, hey, Dave, I'm interested in that. Podcasting in six Weeks. Course. It is something I'm thinking of bringing back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And of course, if you don't want a live class, you're like, I want to learn at my own pace, with Dave right by my side.

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Use the coupon code listnr when you sign up and I will see you on the inside. Until next week. Take care. God bless. Class is dismissed. Recently, the lead singer of YouTube. YouTube? Yeah, the lead singer of YouTube.

The band, you know, and if you want them to. If you want them to choke on almonds. Note to self, don't eat almonds before starting the podcast.