00:00 Welcome to the Daily Bible Podcast

00:16 Mint Chocolate Chip Ice Cream Debate

02:25 Quirky Food Preferences

04:33 Transition to Bible Reading

05:29 Understanding the Signs of the Times

08:07 Beware the Leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees

09:31 Modern-Day Application of Jesus' Warning

10:48 Handling Disagreements in Sermons

11:21 Navigating Disagreements in Church

12:32 Approaching Pastors with Questions

13:01 Considering Church Compatibility

15:27 Peter's Confession and Church Foundations

17:32 Binding and Loosing Explained

20:11 Peter's Role and Discipleship

23:36 Unique Miracle in Mark

24:58 Closing Prayer and Final Thoughts

Hey, Hey.

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Hey, welcome to Sunday's edition

of the daily Bible podcast.

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Folks you were just rats at Taton away.

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And your keys over there.

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What are you typing about?

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I was responding to the

true north leader chat.

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Oh, okay.

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How's that going?

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It's on fire right now.

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Isn't it's so funny.

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We're just, we're having a great time.

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That's awesome.

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I was, I was lambasting people who

eat mint chocolate chip ice cream.

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I heard this yesterday.

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So it's continued in the group

thread and there's a photo

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right now that I'm looking at.

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Of one Cammy Clancy.

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Uh, eating fake also is fake fake

mint, chocolate chip ice cream.

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And so they put on the chat settling

the mint chocolate chip debate.

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Now I heard you made a

claim about people who eat.

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Mint chocolate chip ice cream.

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I did I did I.

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I'm here to share with the podcast.

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I said multiple things and maybe

some of those things, I might

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not say in a different setting.

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But I suggested that people who

eat mint chocolate chip ice cream

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are probably the same people.

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Who ate their toothpaste as kids.

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Okay.

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And learn to enjoy it.

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Yeah.

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And, you know, And in fairness, if

you're brushing your teeth as a kid,

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and that's what you did then, Hey.

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God Godspeed friend.

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So you don't like Michalko spice cream.

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That's funny.

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Cause someone was asking you I

was drinking spearmint tea last

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night during the rehearsal.

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Uh, when we had rehearsal this last week.

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And someone's like, I

thought you don't like men.

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Like, no, I like men.

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I just don't like mint

chocolate chip ice cream.

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It's one of my things.

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If I'm going to have ice cream, I

want something that's delicious.

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So I don't see that in the same ballpark,

but I do like those Andes chocolates,

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they give you from olive garden.

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I think those are delicious.

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So it's not even a chocolate

chip and mint combo.

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But like, there's just something

about mint chocolate chip ice cream

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that just does not appeal to me.

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That is very confusing because

you like everything about it,

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except for the actual product.

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Y you know, it's probably because ice

cream is such a, like, I don't know.

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It's.

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I feel like ice cream does not

lend itself to that kind of flavor.

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Although, although I did, I did

confess I do like green tea, ice cream.

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I w it wouldn't be my first

choice, but I do like read it.

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In fact, my first choice of ice

cream is going to be vanilla.

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I love Tillamook vanilla.

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I think you just disqualified

yourself from this conversation

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from everybody listening.

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I feel what you want to feel.

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My point though.

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Go ahead.

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Go ahead.

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You said it, man, I like Jesus.

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I like God.

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I even like the holy spirit.

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But I don't like the Trinity.

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I.

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Cause you're like, wow.

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You just made like ice cream

flavor, a matter of orthodoxy.

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And these minutes, I like chocolate.

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I like, I just don't

like mint chocolate chip.

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It's like, yeah.

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It is very different varied.

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You know, it is cookie I'll grant you.

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So here's another, here's

another quirky food thing.

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I don't like ranch dressing.

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I almost, I can gag if I try it.

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But I love ranch flavored Doritos.

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Is that, is that different?

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Somewhat?

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Say, how can you like

one and not the other?

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I say, I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I've ever eaten orange flavor

delivered Doritos and been like,

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but if you're eating an Andes mint,

Like if you took Andy's minutes and

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threw them into to vanilla ice cream,

you'd basically have mint chocolate

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chip ice cream, not the same thing.

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No.

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And I think there's,

there's sentimentality.

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There there's something special beyond

the, the flavor and the experience itself

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that says, okay, this is different.

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Whereas I mint chocolate chip ice cream.

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I would choose a million different

flavors over that any day of the week.

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Including green tea, ice cream.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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For sure.

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For sure.

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Yes.

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In fact, probably mint chocolate

chip is the bottom of the barrel.

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That is insane.

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I can't get there, man.

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I don't know, man.

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I'm sorry.

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I can't abide by that.

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I can't.

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Well, So in case you're wondering

how he's using it in the sermon.

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I was saying, look, there are

things worth fighting about, this

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is not one of them, obviously.

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I'm poking fun at people.

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And in fairness, I also gave

everybody a trigger warning.

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I said, what I'm about to

say may hurt your feelings.

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So.

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It hurt mine.

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I'm.

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I gave them a trigger warning.

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I should have given you one as well.

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I didn't, but that was what I said.

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And I said, I said, there's, this is

worth, this is not worth fighting about.

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There are things we're fighting about.

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It's not even my favorite ice cream.

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It's just, I I'm offended on

behalf of those that do like

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mint chocolate chip ice cream.

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You and Cammie Clancy.

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My favorite is, is chocolate,

peanut butter, ice cream Tillman.

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Chocolate peanut butter ice cream.

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Still the best.

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Oh, it's delicious.

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Yeah.

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I'm a cookies and cream fan.

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I'm a Rocky road fan.

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Uh, what else?

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I mean, I can enjoy a

lot of good ice creams.

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It just feels like.

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I don't know, once you start

doing mint and things, it feels

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like, oh, is this healthy now?

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I don't want, I don't want if

I'm having ice cream, it's not

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because I'm trying to be healthy.

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But, but it's in the green tea, ice cream.

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Doesn't that scream the same thing.

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Maybe a little bit, but it doesn't

feel like it scratches the same itch.

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The, the mint, it just feels

like my brushing my teeth.

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Or am I having a dessert?

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I don't know.

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You know, It doesn't feel right.

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All right.

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Well, everybody that out there.

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Don't don't fill up pastor Rod's freezer

with mint chocolate chip ice cream.

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Loudly, donate it to bachelor PJ, since

he clearly loves it, we'll take it.

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My kids will eat it.

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I'm not going to lie.

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Yep.

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Hey, let's jump into our

daily Bible reading today.

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It is Sunday, by the way.

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So happy Sunday.

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Hope you are either had a

great day at church or about

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to have a great day at church.

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We are trusting the Lord.

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It's going to be a great day at church.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I can't wait to see you there.

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We've got compass one-on-one.

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And so if you're listening to

this and you're newer to our

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church and you're still not.

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You haven't been through

compass one-on-one.

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This would be a great opportunity for you.

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There's still time to register and

be there after the service with us.

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It should be a good time.

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Pastor, rod juggles for you during that.

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Um, and do you know how to juggle?

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I do actually.

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That's great.

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So.

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We could do it together.

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Only three though.

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I can't do any more than ever.

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Never tried more than three.

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So we're on the same page.

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Oh, good.

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Well, maybe we'll juggle.

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At campus one-on-one but probably not.

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Anyways.

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Uh, Matthew 16 in mark eight.

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Matthew 16 market.

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We're kind of in a pattern

at least for these next two.

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We're going to do Matthew 16, mark eight.

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Then tomorrow, Matthew 17, mark nine.

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And then Matthew 18, after that.

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Um, but that's the 16 do what?

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By itself.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Matthew 16, we opened up with,

uh, the, this warning about signs

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and I think this is helpful.

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Given our recent conversation about

digital IDs and everything else like that.

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You know, should we be

looking for these signs?

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What does this mean?

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What are we supposed to do with the signs?

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Because Jesus confronts

them and says, Hey.

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Um, you know, you're able to

read the signs in the sky and

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tell when a storm is coming.

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Uh, but you don't know how to

appear at the site, interpret

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the signs of the times.

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And so pastor, rod help us to

understand what are the signs of the

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times, what should we be looking for?

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What did Jesus mean by that phrase?

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So, um, I have a couple answers to this.

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And that's why I'm struck.

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I'm hesitating because I'm

saying, okay, well, how, how

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deeply do you want to go in this?

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Um, the signs of the times

that he meant most immediately

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is clearly, look, I'm here.

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I'm doing these signs for you.

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In fact, as we, as we

just been looking at this.

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Uh, Jesus is healing Canaanites.

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The Canaanite woman has Matthew

calls her or the Sierra Phoenicia.

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Phoenician woman.

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He's he's multiplying bread

and feeding the thousands.

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He's walking on a water.

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I mean, obviously they didn't see that.

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But he's giving them sign after sign.

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Remember we asked the question, why,

why are, why are they asking for more

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signs when Jesus is clearly doing so

many demonstrable signs, that evidence

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his messiahship any single, if you can,

if you can look at the sky and say,

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oh, it's going to be a sunny day today.

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Or if you can look at this guy and

say, it's going to be a rainy day.

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You're saying it's it's that obvious

you should be able to interpret these

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signs and recognize who's in your

presence and is not just a mere mortal.

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This is someone greater than Elijah.

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This is someone greater than a

greater than Solomon is among you.

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And therefore you ought

to be able to see that.

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And so those are the most immediate

signs, but there's, there's a question

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about the larger thrust of his ministry.

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What signs is he talking about?

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What's he, what's he evidencing.

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And of course you have in the Fort.

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And the historical foreground, you

have this 78 D when the temple is

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torn down and Jerusalem is destroyed.

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So it's most immediately the

signs of his messiahship, but

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more broadly, the eschaton the

last things that he talks about.

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We're going to get to more

in the gospel of Matthew.

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And just a few brief chapters,

but that's the immediate context.

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That's what I would say.

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What would you say?

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Yeah.

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Similar to what he responded to the

disciples of John, the Baptist, who came

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to him and said, go tell him what you see.

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Yeah.

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Here's the signs that you see and you

can draw your own conclusions from that.

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So, yeah, I would agree should

draw the right conclusion

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is, is implication, right?

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If you're drawing the wrong conclusion,

it's not that the signs are weak or

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that the, the evidence is not obvious.

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It's you get your hardness of heart.

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Right.

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And he.

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Uh, ends this section here by

giving the Jonah sign again.

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He says, Hey, you're going to, here's

the sign that you're gonna have.

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And is Jonah not parallel

in, in, um, accounts?

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This is another time that he's

referencing the same thing

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with the same group of people.

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Not necessarily the same one for

one correlation, but the religious

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leaders of the Jews there.

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That's right.

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Uh, we'll move on from this.

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Verses five through 12 of

chapter 16, we find that the

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disciples are missing things too.

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It's not just the religious leaders.

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Uh, they get into the boat and they

start to push off and Jesus warns

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them about the 11 of the Pharisees.

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He says in verse six, watching

be where the leaven of the

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Pharisees and the Sadducees.

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And they start going, oh no,

we didn't bring any bread.

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And he's upset about this.

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He's mad that we don't have any bread.

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And we see the ambitions of Jesus.

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Jesus speaks to there, there.

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Their concerns, their grumbling,

their, their private thoughts

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there and says basically, Hey.

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Do you guys.

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Are you slow?

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Do you not understand who

I am and what I've done?

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Do you not remember

everything that I've done in.

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And he reprimands them.

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Uh, for being, not for being unprepared,

but for, for not understanding.

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And so, uh, after.

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As his reprimand, they begin

to, to wrap their minds around.

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Okay, wait a minute.

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He's talking about the teaching of the

Pharisees and the Sadducees, and the

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reason why that he compares that to 11.

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Is that Levin will permeate, whatever

it's in it invades in pervades the

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entirety of the, the lump of dough.

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And so the concern of what Jesus is,

warning them, is he saying warrant.

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Be warned to be aware

of the corrupt teaching.

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Pharisees and Sadducees that

have permeated the entirety

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of the Jewish culture.

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They were the religious leaders.

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They were the ones that, that Israel was

looking to for guidance and direction.

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And they lead the people astray.

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By not teaching the right things.

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And so he's calling the disciples to

be on guard against that so that they

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don't also fall prey to the same error

from the Pharisees and Sadducees.

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I think there's something true

as well about, uh, about the

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same kind of warning today.

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And the things that you partake in either

the Pharisee, the fairest eight 11, the

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sad you say 11, is that even a thing?

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Sad.

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You're sick.

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Sounded good man.

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Just own.

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It's going.

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You use it with confidence.

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I just see 11.

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Um, can still happen today and in

different camps, they may not be

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called the Pharisees and the Sadducees.

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They might be called different

Christian type names that you would

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say, oh, that's a reputable ministry.

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Or that's a reputable

teaching organization.

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You gotta be careful because this stuff

is sneaky and it has an influence on

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your life that you may not immediately

notice until it comes into full flower.

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So I think the same warning

could come to you today.

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Although again, it's, it's going

to be different because we're

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not dealing with the same people.

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But you ought to be careful what, the kind

of teaching that you imbibe be cautious,

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just because you recommend a book to you.

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Doesn't mean we think everything

that the author says is great.

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And just because you recommend a

ministry to you doesn't mean we think

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everything that they say is true.

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And that's also true for us.

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Let me just say that we're not going

to be right on everything that we say.

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We, we, we study, we pray,

we have clear conscience is.

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And so we're not teaching

things that we know to be false.

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But I'm not so silly to think that we're

not going to say things that are untrue

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or things that we're misguided on that

God will eventually teach us about.

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And we'll have to say,

oh, that wasn't true.

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I.

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I've grown on that, on the

understanding of that thing.

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So be a good Berean, know your

Bible, know your guide even better.

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So let's touch on that for a

second, because I think all of

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us can relate to that situation.

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Uh, being in a church, listening to

a sermon and hearing something in

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the sermon that we disagree with.

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Oh, what.

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What, what should our response, what

should our, I want you to answer this

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because I'm the one doing the majority

of the preaching to our people.

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So I don't want to.

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I don't want to come across as

self-serving or self-deprecating in this,

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but what should our response be in that?

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I'm up there, preaching somebody out

there and they're going, you know what.

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I disagree with that.

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And w.

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It, it it's a bird in the saddle

to the pebble in the shoe.

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What do I do with that in the moment?

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And then afterwards, Uh, so

here's the quick and easy answer.

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It depends.

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It depends.

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It depends on the level

of the disagreement.

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It depends on whether or not it's a, it's

a first tier second tier third tier issue.

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Um, I guess the place to start with

is if you're in a church where you

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trust the pastors, and this is the

place that you've committed to be.

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You know, a scripture calls you

to submit to your pastors and your

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elders to submit to their leadership.

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And to in fact, the word that the author

of Hebrew used it, Hebrews uses this obey.

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Obey.

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I mean, that's a, that's a strong

word that most of us wouldn't feel

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comfortable with telling other people

to be like, Hey, yada, obey me.

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But that's exactly what Hebrews

chapter, I think chapter 13 says, um,

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I'll pull it up in a second here, but

just, yeah, it is chapter 13, verse 17.

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Here's what it says.

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Chapter 13, verse 17, but the Hebrews.

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Obey your leaders and submit to them.

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And here's why.

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For, they are keeping watch over

your souls as those who will have

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to give an account, let them do this

with joy and not with groaning for

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that would be of no advantage to you.

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So principle number one is if you're

at a church where you trust the

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leadership and their pastors, and

they've not misled you to this point,

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And I say, okay, I'll ban submit.

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I might be wrong in the situation.

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I'm going to trust that they've

done more study that they have more,

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uh, more homework behind their,

their efforts than what I have.

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And so it might be a good opportunity to

come up to him after the service to say,

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Hey, I had a question about what you said.

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I've heard this before.

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What do you think about that?

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Am I wrong in this.

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Um, am I missing some

elements of truth in this?

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So the posture of humility and

submissiveness goes a long way.

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And bringing something up to your pastor.

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Secondly, I would say if the, if he

is wrong on something and he misspoke

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and he misstated a fact, or he missed

attributed something, Then he might say,

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oh man, thank you for catching that I,

man, I totally did not mean to say that.

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Or I said that no us, I didn't

believe, I couldn't believe that.

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Wasn't true.

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Thank you for bringing

that to my attention.

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I'll clarify that next week.

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I mean, there's a lot of things that

could happen there, but if it's a

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really big situation, if it's a tier

one or two doctrine where it's like,

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oh, I disagree with that doctrine.

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Um, It's worth asking, is this

the church I should be at?

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Um, God in his grace has provided a

multitude of churches where you can

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still be under good gospel teaching,

where you can have some agreements

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on tier one, tier two issues.

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Um, if you disagree on those levels, it's

going to be really hard to find yourself.

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It'd be for instance, like, uh, uh, Pedro

Baptist, someone who likes baptizing

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their babies, coming to a church like

ours, where we are credo Baptist.

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We baptize only professing believers.

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If they were to come to our church,

they would have a hard time swallowing.

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Some of the teaching that's going

to come from the pulpit because

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it was how I disagree with that.

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Why is he teaching this?

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I was covenantal as.

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Uh, probably shouldn't be at the

church if you can't handle it and be

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United with the pastors and the elders.

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Um, and not be divisive then

you shouldn't be at the church.

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So there's, there's just a handful of

things that you need to think about

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as you consider areas where you might

disagree with the pastor preaching.

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I mean, I would agree

with that wholeheartedly.

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I think that's that's

appropriate in encouraging.

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Yeah.

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That's my biggest concern is, is the.

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And it should be all of our biggest

concern, the unity of the church

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and the unity of the body of Christ.

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And if this is not a gospel issue

where we have to stand up and say,

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wait a minute, this is a false gospel.

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Uh, if this is a tier two issue,

then we should love the unity of the

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bride of Christ universal church.

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Enough to say, I need to be

somewhere where I can sit and

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learn and not be disruptive.

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Not be discouraging, not be.

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Uh, divisive in that.

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So.

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Yeah, that's good.

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And it, and we're not telling, saying

either that a Paedobaptist couldn't come

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in and be a part of our church and not.

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And be totally content there.

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If he's willing to say, Hey.

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It's an issue of disagreement.

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Um, I'm good with that.

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We can agree to disagree, right?

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I'm going to, I'm not going to.

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Be not going to make an angry yeah.

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I'm not going to teach contrary to that.

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Right.

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In fact.

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At our last church, we

had people that were.

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You know of a varying theological

stripes where they would say,

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I don't want to be with that.

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I'm gonna go to that, but the state,

some of them became leaders and they

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would just, there was an understanding

like, Hey, please, don't teach

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differently than what we're teaching.

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You might have a disagreement about

this, but please don't tell others this.

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Well, here's, here's what they teach.

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But here's what I think.

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And here's what you, here's what

you really ought to believe about

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this, um, which is underhanded,

sneaky, and an uncalled for.

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Uh, if you could be at a

church and this might be your.

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That might be your best option.

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If I was in the middle of

nowhere and my best church

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option was a Presbyterian church.

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I would swallow it.

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No, it's okay.

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I guess I'm here and I'm going

to submit to the pastors.

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I'm not going to teach differently.

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I will tow the line for their

sake, for the unity of the

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church, for the bride of Christ.

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Um, and I would do so joyfully.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Good word.

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From here, he goes on.

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And talks about Peter's confession.

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Uh, verses 13 through 16.

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When, when Peter confesses

that Jesus is the Christ.

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Um, Simons.

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Uh, declaration here.

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He says, blessed, are you Simon?

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Barjona for flesh and blood has

not revealed this to you, but my

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father who is in heaven, and then

he goes on and he talks about Peter.

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And he talks about Peter, but then

he really talks about the church.

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He says, you are Peter.

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And then he says, and on this

rock, I will build my church now.

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Uh, traditionally church history,

especially the Catholic church has

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understood him referring to Peter

when he says that, because Peter's

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word Petroff means rock or stone.

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Um, what Jesus says you are Peter

Petrosian on this rock Petra.

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He uses a feminine form of it.

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I will build my church.

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And so a lot of, uh, Uh, another

position, I should say, not a lot of.

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An alternative position.

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Embraced by a lot of people is, um,

That Jesus was referring to himself

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as the rock upon which the church was

going to be built, that he's referring

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to his teachings as, as the rock upon

which the church is going to be built.

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And so Peter is, is instrumental in the

launch of the early church, for sure.

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But I think we wrongly exalt Peter.

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When we say that, that Jesus, we're

going to build the church on Peter.

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Peter is not the main

character of the church.

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Jesus is.

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And I think that, that the, the

actual language in the Greek

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supports that as well here.

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He does go on to say the gates

of hell will not overcome it.

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Um, I think I mentioned this last

year, if you go to Israel and you

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look at where this was said, this is

in Cesarea Philippi, overlooking the

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temple of pan, the Greek God pan.

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And there was right next to this, a cave

opening that was called the gates of hell.

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Uh, and it was a dark.

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Opening that would lead into a, an

underground river that, that flowed.

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And so this is right within the, the eye

shot of that, where Jesus is saying this.

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And so some of that he's referencing

that the gates of hell there in Cesarea

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Philippi and saying the gates of hell

as in right here in the false idolatry

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and everything else, all the world's

system, not going to overcome the church.

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That's possible.

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Others have said this could be

refer reference to death itself.

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That Jesus is anticipating his own death.

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And even the gates of Hades.

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That death is not going to

be able to stop the church.

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The church is going to keep

spreading in spite of that, but

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either way, the churches is not

going to be defeated and that's such

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a calm, comforting thought to us.

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Uh, then he talks about binding

and losing a binding and losing PR.

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I want to read this quote from

MacArthur on this concept.

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Put me up against the car there.

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I'm curious to get your thoughts

on no, I, I concede white flag.

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He wins, he says this, this, he says.

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He says Christ's actions mean

that any duly constituted body

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of believers are the church.

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Acting in accord with God's word,

has the authority to declare

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if someone is forgiven or not.

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The church's authority is not to determine

these things, but to declare judgment

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of heaven, based on the principles

of the word, when churches make such

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judgements on the basis of God's word,

they can be sure heaven is in a chord.

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In other words, whatever they

bind or loose on earth is already

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bound or loosed in heaven.

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When the church says the unrepentant

person is bounded sin, the church is

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saying what God says about that person.

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When the church acknowledges

that a repentant person has

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been loosed from that sin.

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Oh, God agrees.

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So I, I think what he's intending to

communicate that I would agree with is

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that the church is simply acknowledging

what God has already made clear.

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Yes.

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And God's making it clear

through the evidence of their

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repentance of their confession.

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And so the church can confidently

say, look, if you've trusted in

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Christ and you are forgiven, if you've

turned from your sins, if you confess

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that he is the Lord than you are.

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Uh, you are according to his

word, you are new, you're saved.

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You're justified in all of the above.

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So that the binding and losing.

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That is The acknowledgement of

your salvation or your, your.

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Your discipline.

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It's just the church agreeing with

what we already see in scripture.

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So it's less that God is responding

to our, our, our movements, which is

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what that quote sounds, seems like it's

suggesting and more of us saying we are

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agreeing with what God's already said.

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We are saying yes to what he's saying.

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And we know that by what his word

says, that's what I would say.

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I would agree with that.

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Yeah.

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I think that's helpful.

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I think my car there's.

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Right.

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And what he's saying, but it's

just, it came across strange.

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So I wanted to call it that because

I know a lot of you look to, to that.

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Uh, resource we've recommended

that resource it's in his single

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volume commentary on the Bible.

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Um, Yeah.

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, we're not the Catholic church.

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I think that that's the

air and not the MacArthur.

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Seeing that we are, I think that's the air

we want to avoid though, of saying that

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this is a personal decision by a church

leadership of saying who is and who's out.

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And, you know, we have some dynamic

authority that that is, is not static,

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but is, is, you know, flexible for

us to decide who, who gets to be

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a part of the church who doesn't

get to be a part of the church.

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Now we, we do things in accordance

with God's word and I think

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that's what he's driving at.

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He could have just been probably

clear in his explanation there.

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Agreed.

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He normally is.

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And if you read the whole Corpus

of someone's writing, usually you

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get a better sense of what they're

trying to say in any given moment.

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And that's probably one of

those situations, right?

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Right.

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But first before, before the church,

before all that first death, and

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that's where he goes, Matthew 16,

21 through 23, he's going to die.

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Peter goes from victory to defeat

really fast because Peter is confessing

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him as Christ and then rebuking him.

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Dude is it, is he Satan?

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Well, not in the same.

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Yeah.

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So that's.

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So the word Saint means adversary.

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And so the well intentioned

here, I think Peter was opposing

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the sovereign plan of God.

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And in, so doing, he's serving

as Satan's Emissary in that,

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not in the same way as Judas.

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Uh, Satan had entered into Peter, but

I believe that that Peter was voicing

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Satan's agenda, not God's agenda.

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And so insight.

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So doing Jesus accuses him of

being Satan, being the adversary.

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To God's plan in that situation.

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So it's not that Satan is in dwelling

Peter at this point, correct.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And then he goes, The rest of the chapter,

here's what discipleship looks like.

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And, and we've, we've covered some of

these things and we will, again, of,

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of the cost of following Christ and,

um, in how we should take up our cross,

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deny ourselves so forth and so on.

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So that's Matthew 16, 24 through 28.

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Uh, mark chapter eight, the good news

is a lot of this is repeated, so we're,

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we're, we're long, but, but we're,

we're closing it and we're almost done.

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Uh, he talks about the

feeding, the 4,000 mark.

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One through 10 we've hit that.

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A couple of times already.

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This is separate from

the feeding of the 5,000.

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Again, probably Gentile territory,

mark eight, 11 through 13.

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Again, the signs of the times like we

talked about, you can read the skies.

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You can't read the times.

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There was Jesus sighed, deeply.

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He talks about in verses 11, 13.

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I've taken the deepest.

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You've ever heard.

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Yeah.

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He's exasperated with it.

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He talks about the

leaven of the Pharisees.

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Again, they get in the boat.

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In Mark's account here.

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Yeah.

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You just imagine.

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Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead, please.

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Continue.

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It's funny to me.

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It is funny.

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And Mark's account.

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He expands on Jesus rebuke of the

disciples, but doesn't mention that

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they understood the point afterwards.

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And so he just kind of leaves it open,

ended, like Jesus, just kind of back

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into them, verbally of being like,

Hey, you guys should know better.

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Um, but Matthew fills in that.

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They got it.

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They got it.

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They mentioned here, uh, in verse

number 15, mark says, watch out

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for the Ferris, the leaven of the

Pharisees and the leaven of Herod.

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Uh, Matthew's account says a fair season.

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The Sadducees.

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Yeah.

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Any thoughts about why he chose

Herod here instead of the Saturday?

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So he must've mentioned all three.

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Uh, and either the same conversation

or a similar conversation, he must

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have mentioned all three of them.

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So what about Herod here?

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What do we need to know?

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I mean, I haven't honestly

given that much thought.

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Uh, just off the top of my head.

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Th that's another threat to

the kingdom at this point.

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And the idea of, of the earthly

kingdom, the idea of, of focusing

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on things that are not necessarily

part of God's unique plan, perhaps

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that's, what's, what's going on.

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Maybe he's even talking to the.

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Simon the zealot at

this point saying, Hey.

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Your passions.

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For political upheaval is not

what God's agenda is right now.

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Yeah, that's good.

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That's that's good insight.

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I guess that's a, that's a good point.

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We haven't talked a lot about Simon,

the zealot, but I think he, um, he

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would be one of those people that today

would be part of all, some of the.

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I don't know, it seems like it's

inflammatory language, but for lack

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of a better definition the far right.

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Cause you know, You'd be one

of those guys that's in a.

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You know, It certain parts of the country

where they're known for that certain

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parts, certain parts of the country.

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We're.

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He would be, you know, lining

up at that church and he'd

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like, yeah, let's go do this.

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Right.

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And it's interesting because Jesus, he

has these guys he's got on his staff.

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I mean, what, he's one of the 12,

which to me is mind blowing in and

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of itself that he's on the he's

on the payroll, so to speak right.

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So I think that's interesting,

fascinating, but he doesn't

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encourage him in that.

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Yeah.

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I think your, your point

about him and inherit in the

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political climate is insightful.

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Yeah.

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We get a unique Mar miracle here

in mark eight it's one that's

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not recorded anywhere else.

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And it's this two-stage healing

of this blind man in Bethsaida.

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And so he comes to Jesus

and Jesus heals it.

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Not right away, not in

one act, but in two.

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Uh, and likely this is meant to

illustrate the progression of faith

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that the man's blindness representing

the disciples own spiritual blindness.

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That's slowly fading away.

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And so Jesus first.

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Uh, allows him to be, be able to

see in part, and then he enables

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him to be able to see clearly.

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Um, Yeah.

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I don't know what the rest of

this man's life looked like.

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His father's following as far

as following Jesus or not.

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But I think a lot of the things Jesus

did, Allah, how John calls them signs.

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We're meant to communicate something

greater than the act itself.

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And so I think he's teaching something.

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He, even to the disciples through

this dual stage healing of this

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man, it wasn't that he wasn't able

to remove his blindness right away.

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He could have.

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But instead he chose

it to do in two parts.

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I 100% agree with that.

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In fact, I don't think there's any

other interpretation that would make

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sense of that occasion because Jesus

doesn't do anything on accident.

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Right?

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This is clearly an intentional move

and the mark skillfully weaves it into

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these two stories to help you see, look

just like the blind man needed some

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progressive awakening to, to clarity.

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So did the disciples.

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Yeah.

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Rest of the chapter, then

you get Peter's confession.

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Uh, no mentioned a building, the

church finding or losing here.

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He doesn't mention that.

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Um, Peter's rebuke of Jesus.

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Eh, 8 31 through 33.

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And then again, the cost of

discipleship, similar to what we

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just read about there in Matthew 16.

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So let's pray and then we'll

be done with this episode.

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God, thanks for the day.

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For the day.

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That is a is before us or behind us.

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Whenever we're listening to this, we

are grateful for your faithfulness in

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that we pray that we be good stewards.

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We want to be wise to

the signs of the times.

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We want to be looking out for your

return and ready for your return.

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Ultimately is that is what's

next eschatological speaking.

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And so we want to be aware,

not afraid but aware.

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So that we're ready when you return.

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And so we pray that we

would be in Jesus name.

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Amen.

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Thank you.

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Bring your Bibles tune in again

tomorrow for another episode

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of the daily Bible podcast.

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Bye.