Tedi “Son of Pearl” Robinson joins Musicians Reveal with Joe Kelley to discuss his new single Just Call My Name, a soulful track that defines his mellow funkism sound. He reflects on the pandemic’s influence on his creativity, the universal themes of love and connection in his music, and his collaborations with Flight Boy and D. Trent Kelly. Robinson also opens up about his socially conscious track Killer on the Payroll and his vision for the future of funk and soul.

📘 What You’ll Hear in This Episode

– The inspiration and emotional depth of Just Call My Name

– How the pandemic fueled Robinson’s creativity

– Defining and elevating mellow funkism

– Collaborating with Flight Boy & D. Trent Kelly

– Reflections on Killer on the Payroll and music as protest

– The role of authenticity and community in independent music

– Robinson’s outlook on the future of funk and soul

⏱️ Chapters

00:20 – Introduction to Tedi “Son of Pearl” Robinson

06:55 – Defining Mellow Funkism

11:45 – The Inspiration Behind Just Call My Name

18:20 – Creating Music During the Pandemic

25:10 – Collaborating with Flight Boy & D. Trent Kelly

32:05 – Themes of Love, Longing & Human Connection

39:00 – Music as Protest: Killer on the Payroll

46:15 – Building Community in Independent Music

51:50 – Vision for the Future of Funk & Soul

56:40 – Closing Reflections

📝 Key Takeaways

– Tedi “Son of Pearl” Robinson’s new single Just Call My Name blends funk and soul to capture themes of love, longing, and connection.

– The pandemic served as a creative catalyst, inspiring Robinson’s most prolific and reflective period.

– He defines mellow funkism as a genre that merges chill grooves with emotional depth, aiming to resonate widely.

– Collaborations with producers Flight Boy and D. Trent Kelly added richness and direction to his sound.

– Robinson addresses social issues through his protest track Killer on the Payroll, showing his commitment to music with meaning.

– He stresses the importance of authenticity, collaboration, and community within the independent music scene.

– Looking ahead, Robinson envisions mellow funkism growing into a powerful movement for healing and connection in a post-pandemic world.

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Okay.

That is the brand new single from my great friend, Mr. Teddy, son of Pearl Robinson.

And it's a brand new single from Teddy.

It's called Just Call My Name, the Foxtrot Alpha mix.

He's got brand new music.

He's been working all through this pandemic.

Incredible creation.

It's more of the mellow funkism.

And I welcome my great friend, son of Pearl, Teddy Robinson.

How you doing, brother?

Hey, Joe.

I'm doing fine, brother.

How are you?

I'm doing good.

And you know, you just been.

You haven't missed a beat.

You just keep on going and working, working all different kinds of sounds in the studios and with your collaborators.

Just call my name.

Let's talk about that first.

Well, hey, man, first of all, thank you, man, for, for having me on the show, man.

You've been such a great, supportive of, of all independent art of my vibe, man.

And I'm definitely trying to push mellow funkism to the forefront so that people can kind of catch on.

And we're doing really well.

I think that during the pandemic, we've been in a situation where you really had to dig down deep.

And I think a lot of great music is going to come out of this.

For a lot of artists, not just myself, but for other artists who have found themselves now pretty much quarantined at home, it can slow down.

Not on the road, not touring, you know, and they can just kind of, you know, be creative.

Just call my name.

I call it like my chill, my chill pop tune because it's the type of tune that you really can't chill by.

But it's also kind of like a real mid tempo, funky type of ballad, you know, and who as a lover, you know, husband, wife, friend, you know, who hasn't missed that other person enough to say, well, just call my name, babe, and I'll be there, you know, in some sense.

And.

And to me, that's where it really came from, you know, and the words are pretty simple, you know, and sometimes, you know, those feelings that you have for that other person have always been there, you know, and that somewhere along the line, Faith is going to make sure that you understand how important that person is.

And sometimes you're not in the same place, sometimes you can't be in the same room.

Sometimes work schedules, you know, deployments, you know, shifts, all those things matter.

And so all you can do is just call it, you know, call a name, you know.

Yeah, this song is available right now.

You can go to sonofpearl.bandcamp.com and you can download it.

High quality sound right there.

Also, the digital album available for $7.

How many tracks you putting on the new record?

Well, you know, for this release, we only just do like, you know, of course this is a single, only did two, but.

But for the album we're actually looking at right now, I'm about at 14, but I never really like to release that much.

Even though I see the norm where, you know, you find, you know, the mainstream artist releasing an album with 17 tracks on it.

Right.

I particularly don't listen to all 17 tracks.

I will probably come back in a year or month or six months and find something.

Oh my God, that was on that.

Right?

Because I really didn't listen to 17 tracks, you know.

So what I try to do is somewhere between 1 and 6 or 1 and 8, you know, so that you don't get too bored listening.

And it's not a label of love.

You don't have to be like, man, I got 18 tracks to listen to, you know.

But we're probably looking at somewhere between one and eight, you know, these are just the two that I felt as a single would be kind of, you know, radio friendly.

If you didn't know Son of Pearl and you were just introduced to him, this was kind of easy for you to, you know, digest, you know.

And that's what I wanted, you know.

Cause sometimes, for instance, you and I are Prince fans.

Right.

If you've never heard Prince and the first tune you ever heard with Chaos and Disorder or Starfish and Coffee, you might be a little thrown off.

Right, Right.

So you might want to go back to listen to, you know, I want to be your lover, you know.

Right, right.

You know, things of that nature.

So you can kind of ease into it, you know.

But if you're a true fan now, you know that Chaos and Dis Officer Cough are still great tunes, you know.

Yeah.

I tell you, I reactions to Prince new records.

I had this experience several times when I listened to it the first go around, if I had the volume turned down like low or just regular, sometimes I wouldn't feel the opening track or a few track, but if I put it on a big sound system to blast it, inevitably, you know, it would change right away.

So.

Yeah, yeah.

And that's the key.

That's definitely the key.

Sometimes you do have to go back and listen.

As a matter of fact, I'll forward to you.

I've been a great fan of a website that I Visit a lot soultracks.com.

oh, yeah.

They give you a lot of love over there.

Yeah.

You know, and.

And Chris and his crew, you know, are just great people, especially Ms. Peggy Oliver, you know, she seems to happen to catch my reviews most of the time.

And I love insight, you know, because as an artist, we do know that there will be people who will quickly tell you, no, that ain't it, and there will be other people who will just adore you.

So I try to gravitate toward the people that adore what I do, and I kind of take listen to the people who say I didn't like that to kind of figure it out.

But in the end, I'm still making great music for me.

And if my fans love it, which they do, I call them my mellows.

Love is my little funko.

Yeah, my mellows.

If they love it, man, I'm gonna keep doing it, you know, and I'm gonna keep making music.

And it's called my name, man was the tune that I felt that could be a great tune, especially, you know, the winter is coming, man.

You know, you want to have some snuggle time, some cuddle time, you know?

Hey, you want to sit by the fireplace, or you want to come in and drink a warm cup of cocoa after shoveling all that snow?

Oh, yeah, that's right.

All right, Teddy Robinson, Son of Pearl, is here on the Joe Kelly radio show.

We're going to come back and talk with Teddy after playing another showstopper right here.

This is called Girl, I want to step with you.

And we'll come back and talk more about that song and more from Teddy Robinson.

And I love that track, Girl, I want to step with you from my dear friend Teddy Robinson, also known as Son of Pearl, and that is called Girl, I want to step with you.

Sonofpearl.bandcamp.com Here on the Joe Kelly radio Show.

We were talking off air about, you know, going back and all this, the interviews that we had.

We've been friends since.

Are we going on at least 20 years, right?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was still just a hardcore soldier when we first connected, and we've been going strong ever since.

Yeah.

So, you know, you.

You told.

Told me in past interviews and conversations about, you know, all the music that you have dug, you know, when you're growing up and what you still listen to today and you can hear it in your music.

What have you been grooving on as of late, other than yourself?

Oh, man, I could tell you, man, I'VE really been kind of going back.

As a matter of fact, I recently had a birthday last Saturday.

No, thank you, my brother.

And I'm just glad I made another trip around the sun, right?

And I actually went to a vinyl store because my son was saying, hey, hey, dad, I'm.

I'm gonna get you a turntable because you got all this vinyl here and it's just going away, right?

And it's really kind of crazy because when he bought the.

The turntable, I had to go back and dig up old records.

So I basically started, you know.

You know, basically digging up yes.

Records.

I mean, Fragile was my favorite album when I was growing up.

Then I dug up Cameo.

Is it Machismo, the one with skin I'm in.

And the one that has.

I Need My Soul Titan then, man, I went from there to the Busboys.

American Worker.

Oh, yeah.

Wow.

And I was rolling, man.

Heart and soul.

I was rolling.

And my daughter was like, dad, this is great music.

And then she came down with her vinyl and she went from American Worker in minimum wage rock and roll to the Carpenters.

I was like, you know what?

I've kind of ruined you children.

You know, I ruined you.

Because they can go straight from listening to Big Sean straight to the Car Carpenters of the Beatles right back to, you know, that.

So I love the diversity in music, man.

And that's what kind of has inspired me all these years, man.

And.

And, oh, I forgot I had to play Frampton Comes Alive.

Oh, yeah.

The double album live albums ever made.

Right.

You know, so it's been.

It's been a gas.

But that's what I've been listening to.

New artist Wise Man.

I haven't really listened to too much, but I love Billy Billie Eilish.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I love her, man.

I love, love the.

I just love a vibe, you know, and so that's probably what I've been listening to like that most of all, man.

You know, between old school and that, that's pretty much where it is.

Yeah.

Son of Pearl Teddy Robinson.

Here we're talking about new music, mellow funkism.

And also going through his catalog, dropping a bunch of different songs.

And I'm looking at the picture, Just Call My Name.

The single, really cool.

Look there who took the picture?

And talk about the style.

Oh, my God, man, look.

I have to give a big shout out to my one and only photographer, Mr. Brandon Campbell.

And Brandon was.

He does all the artwork for me except for the 69 single where Mr. Neil Pounds had his great I would say cover guy come up with that.

That cover.

But most of my cover work is done by Brandon Campbel, and he basically comes up with all the ideas.

But what was really cool about that, man, was I wanted to basically have a different vibe.

You know, when I did the last album, I was pretty much in.

I wouldn't say not a dark place, but I was feeling more of a. I had to come in as a desperado in the music type of vibe, you know.

So the black.

The big black hat and the black shades and all that kind of carried me into that vibe.

Whereas this man, I was just feeling a little bit more eclectic.

So I reached out and found a great jeweler, Mr. Jonathan Wilson.

And the rings that I have on, he basically just made that happen.

And that whole pose was basically to kind of say, I'm coming at you, you know, Right.

And here I am.

And so that's what the look is all about, man.

It's like a reinvention of what I've been feeling inside, you know, kind of like a reawakening of what really has to happen musically.

And I think most artists go through it, you know, Madonna, you know, if you look at all the Prince albums, you know, if you look at.

If you even go back to the Slave albums, you know, and see how that whole genre of music is covered in such a way.

Even Isley Brothers, look at how they presented himself on each album and how you just seen them just keep elevating to a point where it's like, we're here, so.

And that's what it's really about now, man.

Eclecticism is really about that particular vibe.

You know, I'm here, I'm digging Frampton one day, I'm digging.

Yes, the other day I'm back to Slave.

Today I'm riding with Rick James.

Tomorrow, you know, I'm with, you know, Stevie in the afternoon.

And in the end, it becomes mellow funkism.

It's just a big gumbo man of vibrations, you know.

Yeah, you put out some great videos on YouTube.

Let me talk about one really moving track, Killer on the payroll, K O T P. Which really, you know, it just stirs.

At least it did for me.

Just the vibe to it.

And also, you know, you're so on point of what's happened in recent times.

What motivated you to speak your mind musically about the things we've been going through as a country?

Well, I think, man, as an artist, I mean, don't get me wrong, I am funky and I will be funky forever.

On that until the end of this thing, until the maker calls my name.

But it is kind of hard to write love songs and dance songs and pretty little hook songs when you see the things on the six o' clock news.

And especially to people of African American descendant.

It just broke me down.

And one day I was in the studio with Flight, and I told him, I said, you know what, man?

I really, really need to write something.

And at the time, Flight was moving in a different area.

So I called out to my other producer, Mr. D. Trent Kelly of Bob City Productions.

He's out in Thailand.

And that's my frat brother, you know, also my fraternity brother.

And he was like, yo, what do you want to do?

I said, well, hey, brother, we need a protest song, right?

And he actually came to me and said, yeah, you know, there are a lot of things going on.

And he said, you know, it seems like there's a killer on the payroll.

And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

And at the time, man, I had been listening to some Larry Blackman, you know, I love.

I love Larry Black.

I love Cameo, you know, from.

From the 11 piece, 14 man band, all the way down to the three, you know, but it just felt that kind of way that you needed to say something really big and old school and powerful.

So it just came out that way, man, because I felt like.

And that doesn't apply to everybody because I have relatives in law enforce.

I myself have worked in law enforcement.

But the bottom line is there are some people in that venue that that shoe fits.

And somehow I felt like there was a song that needed to say it just like that.

So I said it.

Yeah.

Yeah, just people just getting motivated in this summer was just.

It was great to see that.

Yeah.

You know, people are just tired, you know, from all walks of life.

Go ahead.

No, no, no.

They are.

They.

I think.

I think we all are, I think.

And.

And I don't know we're ever going to be a.

A perfect country where everybody else is kumbaya and together, you know, I.

You know, because I was going to be somebody.

No, that ain't it for me.

And I understand that.

But the majority of us do just want to live in peace and be respected and not be fearful, you know, for ourselves or our children.

So to me, that's what KOTP means.

Yeah, we're gonna get into it right now, and you can check the video to it on YouTube.

And Son of Pearl is here, Teddy Robinson.

Sonofpearl.bandcamp.com We'll get into More music and talk with Teddy after we hear this Killer on the Payroll right here on the Joe Kelly radio show.

Okay, that's a very moving song.

Very funk rock right there from Son of Pearl, Teddy Robinson, Killer on the Payroll.

And, you know, his next project is.

Is going to be a working title.

I'm gonna make it on the Smucker's Jar.

That's a little inside joke we were talking about.

Living to 100.

Yeah, yeah.

Be like, I'm on the Smucker's Jar.

This is Smuckers Jam.

That's right.

So is.

Is the latest release, Mellow funkism.

You can get the tracks online.

Son of pearl.bandcamp.com and you get the full digital discography for a nice price.

35% off right now.

$53.30 Christmas time coming up.

You might not see your family during this time, but, you know, just send them.

Send them the tracks on a Pearl right here.

So let's talk about some of the collaborators through the last few years you've been working with.

I know you dropped a few learnings, but how does it work?

I mean, you can play just about anything on your record, but, you know, bringing in somebody else to help you or collaborate, what is that like?

And who are some of the people?

Oh, man, this is really great, man.

I mean, way back in the day when I had to play everything, you know, program everything, you know, it was just a necessity, but it taught me a lot.

You know, I learned how to write love ballads by listening to Rick James.

I learned how to, you know, kick, you know, real hard funk bass lines from listening to Larry Graham and Boosie Collins.

You know, I learned how to do progressive bass lines by listening to Stanley Clark and Victor Wooten.

And of course, you know, all the rock bands I used to listen to, from Humble Pie all the way to Deep Purple, you know, all the way to Thin Lizzy.

But as I progressed, I found out that it was just a lot easier sometime when I brought in guest producers.

Now, recently, the last five years, you're my main producer has been Flight Boy, Flight Boy Music, and out of Baltimore.

In the last two to three years, you know, I've reached out to reconnecting with one of my frat brothers from way back in the day, Mr. D. Trent Kelly.

And between these two guys, I feel confident that I can basically write anything that I want, from classical to funk to hardcore rock.

You know, between the both of them, they can do it all.

As a matter of fact, we've been nominated on soultracks.com for like one of the best instrumental artists of the year.

And I can tell you, if it was not for Mr. D, Trent Kelly, and Flag Boy Music, that nomination wouldn't be possible because they did not nominate me to be the best vocalist or the new artist.

They nominated me to be one of the best instrumental artists.

And those two guys are really responsible for my sound because I can come to them with a snippet of an idea, or I can come to them with a bass line, or I can call D. Trent, he's in Thailand now and say D. I'm hearing George Benson, but I'm feeling George Clinton.

But I really want to throw some more jazz or some more rock in there.

And between the two of them, maybe sometimes Flight would do the drum patterns, maybe I would do the bass line.

Then I may call D and he'll be like, yo, I got you.

Or I may just send D. Trent a simple vocal line.

And he sent me back a melody track, you know, And I just saying is always in a shortcake, you know, he'll send it back to me.

That means in a short period of time, he sent it back to me and.

Hey, man, we.

We rocking and rolling.

Yeah, this we talk about another track which is on Mellow Funkism.

You can download it by going to sonofpearl.bandcamp.com the thirst is real.

Somaye I think.

Did I pronounce it right?

Yeah, yeah, you did, man.

You did.

And that tune, oh, man, that tune was inspired, man.

I spent my real early adult years at Florida State University as a freshman.

And during that time I met some of my best friends and lifelong friends.

And one of my best friends, his name is Sylvester Taylor and he is a sommelier.

And he's a great wine guy.

He knows wine backwards and forwards, front and backwards.

And one day he has a nice blog that him and his wife and his daughter, the Taylor gang, they do a lot of tasting and presenting wines with foods and just all out education on it.

So I happen to be in the vlog one night while he was, you know, talking about a wine, he was using all these terms and I was like, you know, that sounds like a song to me.

And he just inspired me.

So I sat down and I had.

I had the beat, I had the track, and the track was just booming, you know, I was like.

And once I heard him say things like the fragrance of your bouquet should be and the full bodiness of the wine, you know, and.

And it's just, I say in the glass I was like, you know, bruh, that's a song.

So that's how the Thirst came.

You know, you can.

You can use it in both ways.

That's why the lyric video was so important, because I didn't want people to.

To hear it wrong.

I wanted them to see what I was really talking about.

It's really about trying to enjoy the moments you spend with a lover, you know, drinking some good wines and having some good times.

Yeah.

So sit back and relax and pour your favorite favorite one and in your glass and get ready to hear this one from son of Pearl, Teddy Robinson.

This is the brand new track called the Thirst is Real, sommelier, and inspired by your buddy Sylvester.

Frat boy, right?

Yeah.

Yes, him.

Sylvester Taylor out of Orlando.

Yeah.

Yes, sir.

That's us.

That's we.

Seminole for life.

Were you there when Charlie was a quarterback?

No, no, no, no.

But.

But, man, I can tell you now that we as Seminoles, whether we're having a great year or a bad year, man, we're coming back.

Just give us a little time to rebuild.

We're coming back.

All right.

We'll come back and speak one final time with Teddy Robinson, Son of Pearl, right after this.

That is the Thirst is Real, Sommelier, from the brand new track from son of Pearl, Mr. Teddy Robinson.

And Teddy has just been creating music for several, several years.

Many years.

The great testament to a great producer and writer and musician.

You want to talk a little bit about something we.

We discussed before about the song?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Because like I said, you know, my.

My fair brother, Sylvester Taylor, you know, him and his wife and his daughter, you know, they have Taylor Gaine tastings, and you can find them on Facebook.

Man, it's a great.

I've set in on a few, and like I said, I was inspired by that particular moment of him describing, you know, how to taste wine, how to choose wine, what wine goes with this and that, and it was just amazing, you know, and I played it for him last week.

When I dropped it last weekend, I actually was invited to come on to the session, and I played it for him, and he loved it.

And the response has been great.

Truly great.

As far as the views for the video, I was just really impressed.

And so I really appreciate, you know, the support.

You know, of course, you know, we're fraternity brothers, the great fraternity of Alpha Phi Alpha, you know, fraternity incorporated over the Delta Florida State University.

But we've been friends, you know, for years.

I mean, since we were freshmen.

So it was really kind of cool, you know, for him to put me on.

And if you go to the site, some of the best food.

Oh, my goodness, man, it's.

I think you really dig it.

You know, it's a Taylor game tastings.

You can't miss it, man.

You would.

You would definitely enjoy.

All right.

And Teddy Robinson, like myself, big sports fan.

And we were talking about.

I think the last time we spoke was the quarterback change for your Miami Dolphins.

And so far, so good, right?

Yeah, yeah.

McTuh is doing great, you know, and being a Floridian, man, I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm definitely a straight Southern boy and Southern man, you know, and I'm very, you know, Florida, when it comes down to sports, you know, we've always been big time.

I mean, from Florida State to the Gators to.

To the Hurricanes, you know, to University of Central Florida, you know, to.

To, you know, the family Rattlers, you know, to, you know, it's just, you know, we always been a great thing.

But two, I think is going to come along and give the Dolphins what we need to kind of surge back.

You know, maybe.

I'm not sure we're going to go all the way this year, but I guarantee you we are going to start making some real noise again.

Yeah, and they're great defense.

Defensive history is starting to come around again too.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

No name.

No name defense.

That's right.

Way back in the day.

Way back in the day.

Right.

So let's talk about, you know, some of the stuff and.

And I'm gonna.

That, you know, the song which really can't get enough of your love.

I gotta tell you, when.

When I first heard it, I was.

Something clicked on it that I was like, you know, really, really got into me.

And I was thinking about it the last few days and it just reminded me when I first got into to radio and I belonged to the DJ record pool and just the sounds that were coming around that time, it just brought me right back to those times that.

That particular track.

So I gotta thank you on that one.

Oh, yeah.

Well, hey, man, that song was.

Was our initial release with Six Nine Records out of Newcastle UK, Mr. Neil Pounds label.

And he's done a great job, him and Anders and his whole crew, you know, of trying to get that typ soul funk boogie back, you know, on the face of what's happening.

And it gave me an opportunity to kind of widen my audience.

That tune was produced by D. Trent Kelly and Flight basically produced the vocals for me.

And it was a great climb because like you know, D is tight.

D is classically trained.

You know, he's a bad boy.

He's a bad boy and he plays everything.

And what I love about it is that when he comes up with a groove like that and drops it on me to say, hey, and I can sit down and write and then maybe I will go to flight, you know, to get the vocal sound that I want, send it back to Dee, and he would basically remix it.

And it turned out to be a great feeling for us.

As a matter of fact, the flip side of that call, we can make it happen.

D. Trent also produced it also.

And so, you know, it was really great to kind of have the opportunity.

We're going to be back with 6 9ine in March.

We have another single that we're going to release with 6:9ine.

But.

But I had to actually kind of, you know, get some of this mellow funkism kind of out there because I had been sitting on stuff like, you know, sommelier the Thirst and just called my name for almost a year now, right?

And I was like, okay, I got it.

I gotta release and use on my birthday.

I try to release something every six months, right?

Because believe me, some of my heroes, like Stevie Slave, Cameo, go back.

Go back to the 70s and 80s.

They were doing tours and releasing an album every year, right?

And hit material.

Now, don't get me wrong, albums then only had, what, six songs on it before Stevie came along and did Songs in the Kill Life.

And everybody jumped on that double album thing, you know.

But most albums only had six songs, so it was possible for you, but you usually had at least one top 10 hit or at least two, you know, use a fast jam and a slow jam, you know.

So I was like, well, you know, with the technology, I could.

I could do something every six months.

So that's what I've been trying to do.

So I felt like I was kind of slowing down and I just had to do it.

Because as of now, what I have planned is we just released this on my birthday last weekend.

We have a new holiday tune called Let me be your present.

Okay, wow, that's nice.

We're going to do that.

I have a Valentine's Day suite that I usually do.

And then after that, 69 comes back in March.

So you gotta say November.

November, we drop something December, we're gonna drop something.

February, we're gonna drop something in March.

So then I may chill out.

And that album is actually supposed to come out during the summer.

So if we drop in March, I have March, April, May, June.

I have about four months before we drop the album.

So until then, man, I'm just gonna keep writing, you know, just.

Just busy and consistent with.

With high standards of great music.

So I gotta thank you for.

For the friendship and just all the music.

Inspiring music.

I appreciate it, man.

I appreciate it.

But I can tell you now that it wasn't for outlets like, you know, yourself, Soul Track, you know, you.

You and G, man, y', all, you know, you keep.

You keep independent music going, man.

And that's the key, because there's a whole lot of us out here still grinding.

Right, Right.

And, you know, it would be great if local radio stations had, you know, an hour just to play local music, you know?

Right.

You know, but it's not like that because they got to pay the bills.

And if they're not playing what everybody is listening to, you know, then, you.

Know, I. I've talked to.

When you.

You mentioned that, I was thinking to a musician from a great band through the history who, you know, has released solo music, and he said his friend is one of the big shots at Sirius, and when he released this solo record.

They're friends and everything.

His friends.

I'm sorry, I love the track, but I can't play it because of the corporate stuff.

Yeah.

Because he was independent, which is.

That's pretty sad.

That is.

That is.

And especially, man, when you think about that particular sound, like, you know, I often wonder how people like Billy, you know, and.

And Phineas, you know, how.

How did that happen, you know, making music in your business, but somebody had to know somebody, and that somebody had to believe enough to get it in the right place for them to say, oh, wow, I think this could work.

And then here it is, nine Grammys later, Eight Grammys later, whatever it is, they've won, you know, So I feel like that that's the kind of things that should happen, you know, with.

With independence, you know, if.

If people.

And don't get me wrong, you know, you know, being on Spotify and all these great places is cool, but if you're not streaming big time, you know, if you're not making the 40, 50,000 streams, it's difficult, you know, and then with COVID you can't really get out.

And I've done shows where people would be looking like, who is this guy?

And at the end of the show, they'd be like, oh, man, you know, because they saw you.

So now I got 100 new fans.

Right, right.

But it's kind of difficult to do that now, you know, with.

Not any live shows.

Yeah, it's gonna be interesting once, you know, things get safer, you know, as far as music.

I mean, it could be an explosion of good stuff, hopefully.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

And I think people are just gonna love it.

I just hope that when the.

When the Cure, you know, is here, that they can be given to everybody, you know, on equal terms.

Right, right.

And that everybody can not say, well, this side of the country didn't get it, or this particular group of people didn't get it, or this particular class of people didn't get it.

That's.

That's not cool.

Yeah, that would just.

That would just be continuing the problems that exist.

Oh, yeah, no doubt.

No doubt.

Yeah, but until.

Yeah.

Oh, go ahead.

No, no, but like I said, until then, man, good music.

Good music, kind of.

Yes.

Ease those pain, you know?

And that's what I'm trying to do.

All right, we'll let you know one final time.

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And we want to go out on a high note.

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Hey, my brother.