00:00 Introduction and Conference Overview

00:20 Morning Sessions and Breakouts

01:10 Afternoon Sessions and Panel Discussion

01:51 Father's Day Plans and Hot Dog Event

03:04 Upcoming Personal Plans and Travels

03:55 Discussion on Psalms and Worship

06:18 Trust in Leadership and Election Reflections

10:25 Trust in God's Sovereign Plan

10:40 The Role of Pastoral Leadership

11:52 The Temporary Nature of Man vs. The Eternal Nature of God

12:17 Messianic Overtones in Psalm 146

12:42 Post-Exilic Themes in Psalm 147

13:27 God's Intimate Knowledge of His Creation

14:26 A Universal Call to Praise in Psalm 148

15:59 Israel's Role in Executing God's Justice in Psalm 149

19:07 The Use of Instruments in Worship in Psalm 150

19:53 Normative vs. Regulative Principle of Worship

22:45 Preparing Our Hearts for Worship

Hey, welcome to Saturday's edition

of the daily Bible podcast.

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We're coming back to at you still at a

NEC national conference, new Braunfels.

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We're here in new Braunfels, Texas.

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We have, uh, some different

things happening today.

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And so we thought we'd clue you in

and let you know what's going on.

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This is conference all day long.

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Today is basically what's going on here.

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So Saturday.

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Uh, we've got another plenary

session, pastor Mike Elliott.

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Uh, the lead pastor of compass Tustin.

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That's right.

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Yep.

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Tustin, if you're not familiar

with Tustin is near Irvine.

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In California.

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So, yeah, he'll be preaching.

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And then I guess told to expect that

he'd go along more breakout sessions.

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I was told like, Hey, might be late.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't know where I read that,

but I'm confident I read it.

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I am preparing a shorter breakout

for just such an occasion.

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Cause you're going at 10 30.

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I tend to, yeah, that's right.

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That's right.

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We're going to talk about

the prosperity gospel.

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Yup.

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Yep.

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And, uh, actually another one that's

going at 10 30, pastor Josh Petrus.

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And the reason he's significant is.

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Compass Huntington beach, which was

our first plant that our sending

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church ever sent out is getting ready

to send out their own church plant.

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Wow.

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Kind of cool where too.

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Uh, long beach.

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Long beach.

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Josh Patrick.

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Lead that one.

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So we've got breakout sessions at 10 30

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again at one 30 with pastor Ben Blakey.

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He's the lead pastor of compass Bible

church, treasure valley in Idaho.

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There.

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So he's going to be preaching then.

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And then we got more breakouts at three.

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Uh, clock, I'll be doing

my second one there.

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Um, And then 4:00 PM.

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We've got a panel of all the

senior pastors, CBC senior pastor.

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Are you a senior pastor

or are you a lead pastor?

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I think I'm on our website as a

lead pastor lead senior pastor.

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Extraordinary.

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Yeah.

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All of that.

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Is there.

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Yeah, no.

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So, uh, we'll be doing a Q and

a session there and then we're

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heading back up because we've

got church on Sunday morning.

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That's right.

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Which is father's day.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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Tomorrow morning is

father's day or tomorrow.

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All day is father's day.

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Good morning.

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It's all day and we're doing hot dogs.

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We.

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Hello.

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Special event at church.

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Yeah.

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During the sermon, people are

going to be carrying the hot dot.

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Nah, dude, I would take a CJ.

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Yeah.

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During the worst of it during the

preacher, people are doing hot

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in and down with the condiments

down the aisles and stuff.

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Yeah.

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I would.

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That would be really funny.

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We are doing hot dogs

though, after the service.

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So men come hungry for, uh, everything

that's included in a hotdog.

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I think we should get Steve and Wendy

to dress up as the hotdog sellers.

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I talked to them earlier.

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I don't think they're on board with that.

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If we do, if we buy it.

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They'll have to wear it because it's.

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It's poor stewardship if they don't.

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Yeah.

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Also maybe poor leadership.

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If we made them.

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That might be brewing with a heavy hand.

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I think Steve wants to know.

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Well, have you asked him?

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I think he wants to do anyways.

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We're going to be grilling some hot dogs

afterwards, have some root beer and some

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water and things like that available.

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So it should be a great time

looking forward to that.

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That's tomorrow at campus Bible church.

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So don't miss it.

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Don't if you're at the NAC good

job by the mixer at NAC, but.

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But if you're not at NAC or you are.

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Please come back to judge.

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We need you.

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We, we, we need you there.

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We want you.

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Right.

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And we would fill your absence.

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That's true.

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PJ might cry.

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Yes, Lord.

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Amen.

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And this is the last Sunday you're gonna

be in the pulpit for like eight weeks.

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Right.

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False for, I I'm just missing one.

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Just missing one, I'm gone

for two weeks missing.

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One's gone for two weeks, but

you're going to be preaching, but

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what are you going to be doing?

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It'd be good to know.

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Uh, we're going up to boys college

to check out boys with my oldest.

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Who's going to be a sophomore

next year, but for him.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, yeah, I thought, I thought about

telling him that it was for me showing.

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I'm here to get.

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Coming back.

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Uh, yeah, so we'll be there.

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We're going to go hit

the Ark encounter cold.

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Cool.

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Cool.

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I heard good things about that.

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And then we're going to go out to

Washington DC for a little while.

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So yeah.

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We're going to have to

hear more about a person.

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And a few more together

before you take off.

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Right.

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A couple of times.

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Yeah.

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People want to hear about this.

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They want to know what you're doing.

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Well, now they know what we're doing.

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What are you wearing today on Saturday?

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We're listening to a lot of preaching.

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That's true.

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Yeah.

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So, and that's okay.

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Well here, we're listening

to the word of God.

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So why don't you grab your

Bibles and open up to the Psalms?

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It's a songs to go to go through.

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We're not done with the solves for awhile.

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You may be thinking, Hey, you

know, we're done with David.

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So Psalms are probably down to Nope.

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Nope, Nope.

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Nope.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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Uh, someone 34.

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If anybody saw him only three verses long.

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Like this one and it's a.

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It's another.

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Yep.

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He's already.

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He's ready to do it.

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It's another song of a sense.

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Yep.

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There it is.

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There it is.

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Oh, man.

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I will never be able to read

those again, without hearing

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you sniff into the microphone.

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It's a song of a said.

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Anyways.

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Yeah, it is.

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And it's the last of the songs of a sense.

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And it seems to be addressed to

the Levites that they should bless

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the Lord and serve him faithfully.

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So.

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It's a call to the servants of the Lord.

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Um, lift up your hands to the holy place.

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Bless the Lord.

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May the Lord bless you from Zion.

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You talked about Xylem last episode.

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I think.

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Who who made the heaven and the earth.

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So a short one, but, uh, the last of

the Psalms of ascent, which again were

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the songs that were sung on the way up

to worship the Lord there in Jerusalem.

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So the people as they were going

to worship were singing to the

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Levites, who were there to facilitate

the worship, encouraging them.

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Hey, do what the Lord calls you to do.

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So.

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That's an interesting concept.

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I read that perhaps this

might have been issued.

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Um, before they left.

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Like at the end of the feet or whatever,

whatever it was that they were there

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for, it was probably one of the feasts.

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That they might have.

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Saying this as a way to say, Hey, on your

way back, may the Lord bless you guys.

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Um, as I kind of a departure som of sorts.

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So I don't know, it could be, may not.

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Most to som have decent.

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Oh, which they didn't

have no songs of decent.

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No wonder what they saying

on the way home though.

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That's interesting.

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Yes, Lord.

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Yes, Lord.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Yeah,

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which is, which is a totally

biblical song, right?

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So I'm 1 3600.

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So yes, Lord.

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Amen.

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Oh, you don't, I'm going to do it now.

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Now that you've made such a stink of it.

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When you come back from your

vacation and you're all rested and

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you're feeling like, ah, I can't

wait to get back in the pulpit.

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It might show up.

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No, no, we're not, it's not

even gonna be in the bulletin.

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It's going to be a surprise.

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It's gonna be one of those tags songs

that you do at the end of another song.

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Just throw it in there.

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Yeah.

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No.

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No, we're not going to do that.

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I'll say I'm the thirst.

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I've got the guitar I'm going to yeah.

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I'll throw something.

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I'll find something and throw it at you.

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I'll throw a water bottle at you.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Hey, uh, some 1 46.

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This song is bookended by, uh, the phrase,

praise the Lord, which is the Hebrew.

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Hallelujah.

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It's a helpful song to be

reminded of during the upcoming

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election season, especially.

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The first three, put not your

trust in princes in the son of

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man in whom there is no salvation.

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When his breath, the parts he

returns to the earth on that

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very day, his plans parish.

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Uh, and so I, I.

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Don't get me wrong.

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It's not wrong to care about the

upcoming elections we should.

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And as, as Christians.

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I think we have a duty even to

fulfill the, the civic duty that we

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have the obligation to fulfill the

civic duty that we have, that, that

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God has given us the privilege to

vote in the nation that we're in.

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And so I think we should do that and

we should care and we should vote with.

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Informed conscience that, uh,

that our votes should be informed

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by the word of God by scripture.

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Uh, more than anything else, it should

be informed by who's the leader.

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That's going to make it.

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Um, easiest for the church to be

the church and to do the work that

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the church is being called to do.

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Uh, who's the leader that's going to

lead closest to biblical principles.

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There is no.

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There's no good.

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Candidate.

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Right.

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And we know that no matter who

is going to run for office.

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Good from the definition

of God's word being good.

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And that's why this says

don't trust in princes.

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Um, Mortality death.

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Those, there are things that

are associate with sin and those

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are true of every single person

that's going to end up in office.

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Uh, and, and then on top of that, There's

really no Christian candidate to point to.

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Uh, and, and I think that's especially

true in the upcoming election, but

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there is a way for us to vote as.

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A lot of people have suggested according

to the lesser of two evils that you

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choose the one that's going to be most

closely aligned with biblical principles

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and, and do the most good when it comes

to the church in maintaining freedoms

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for the church and things like that.

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How would you talk about trusting?

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And people then, because.

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Uh, we read verses like this, which

seemed to be kind of all encompassing,

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like, Hey, don't trust people.

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Don't put your trust in people.

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And on the one hand you want to say,

well, yes, none in your undergrad.

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Ultimate trust, I suppose.

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When it comes to trusting like a pastors,

I mean, Should there be a trust in people.

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A some kind of trust that

maybe isn't an ultimate trust.

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How would you talk about that?

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Because, I mean, I think I

was thinking about Jeremiah.

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Uh, he says curse is the man who trusted

man, who makes flesh, flesh his strength.

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It seems like scripture is very strong

on, Hey, don't put your trust in people.

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They're going to let you down.

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Yeah, but that also feels like you're,

you're not saying the whole truth either

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because you, I mean, Paul's like follow me

as I follow Christ, but it's that second

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part there it's as I follow Christ, right.

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Well, I mean, Yes.

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Okay.

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So you would qualify it by

saying the kind of trust that

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he's admonishing us not to have.

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Is a trust that is absent from

our separated from Christ.

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Right.

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Because Paul is saying.

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I'm worthy of your, your confidence.

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Because in so far.

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Yeah, because as, as far as

I'm aware, I'm following Jesus.

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And so.

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As you see me follow Jesus, follow me.

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Right.

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Imitate that in me.

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Um, I think what's being, what's being

condemned in Psalm 1 46 is this idea

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of like all my hopes for security and

comfort and wellbeing are being put

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on a, uh, A person, a human being.

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And I think that's what

the prophets talk about.

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That's what the Psalm is talking about.

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Our hope is not in.

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Our guy being an oval office in

November or, well, in January, I guess.

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Th that's, that's not our hope.

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We may hope that that happens.

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But that is a subservient hope to

our greater hope, which is our hope

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and trust in God's sovereign plan.

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Which actually we talked

about last Sunday.

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Um, God's sovereign plan is the

plane that cannot be stopped.

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And, and part of God's plan, let's remind

ourselves in the old Testament involved.

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Cyrus his servant.

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Involved Nebuchadnezzar as an

instrument of judgment, as he tells

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Habakkuk in Habakkuk chapter one.

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So I think sometimes when we grumble, we

need to be careful about grumbling against

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those that are in office as though.

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You know, this is the worst thing in the

world because God put that person there.

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Uh, it's, it's really

not about a democracy.

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God is the one that the

vote doesn't decide who's in

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office at the end of the day.

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God does.

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Um, Does it use the vote in,

in bringing that to light?

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Sure.

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But nobody gets in because at

the end of the day, oh, well

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the vote just went that way.

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And God's like, oh, look at that.

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I guess that guy is going to be the

president for the next four years.

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Now whoever's in office, come

January is going to be there

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because God puts them in there.

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Um, And so our trust is in him.

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Our trust is in God's unfolding,

sovereign plant, not in the man, not in

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the individual, not in the human being.

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But would you say there

is a kind of trust that?

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So, so again, coming back to leadership

in general, pastoral leadership, that

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specific, there is a kind of leadership

that's or a kind of trust rather,

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and leadership that's appropriate.

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Right.

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As that leadership is, is faithful to

the word of God and faithful to Christ.

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Right.

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I mean, even like, let's talk about

pastors, we we've heard about, and know of

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pastors that have fallen morally, right?

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Yeah.

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So, and that'll shake you.

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And that that will strike the

shepherd people scattered.

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Yeah.

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True for Christ.

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True for under shepherds too.

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And if you were confident in your

standing in Christ is because of

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your allegiance to your pastor.

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Then yeah, that's going to

undermine everything about you.

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You're going to be left going.

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Oh man, what do I do?

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But if your confidence is in Christ,

then as you often say, you know,

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the, the best of men are men at best.

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And that's important to, to remember.

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And so we have to guard against th

there's there's the two extremes.

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There's the one extreme of men.

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Nobody right.

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You're right.

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And, and to, to be skeptical of everyone.

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And cynical, right.

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And we want to avoid that as well as

the, the extreme that says, well, I

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trust everything this person says, right?

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Um, there's, there's

a middle ground there.

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And, uh, yeah, so we trust them as

long as what we're trusting you to do

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is somebody that's following the Lord.

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Like Paul said, trust me

because I follow Christ.

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Follow me as I follow Christ.

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I guess one of the things that you see

the contrast here in Psalm 1 46 is one of

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the reasons that we don't put our ultimate

trust in man is because man is temporary.

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Yeah, he's here for a moment.

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He's gone after 70, 80 years.

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Consequently, if you put your trust in

that, it's going to be a short term trust,

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but you're trusting God in verses five

through seven is the difference between

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temporary trust versus a permanent trust.

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You can permanently trust

God because he never fails.

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He never ends.

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He has no.

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At the beginning.

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No end.

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That's a better place to put your trust.

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Yeah.

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Notice also end.

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1 46, the last few verses here.

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There's some messianic overtones here.

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As when John the Baptist

sent his disciples to ask

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Jesus, Hey, are you the guy?

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Jesus said, go tell John what

you see and what you hear.

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And there's some themes here, though.

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This is not the direct

part that he was quoting.

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There's some themes here that, that just

picks up on, on setting the prisoners

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free opening the eyes of the blind.

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Uh, lifting those bowed

down, so forth and so on.

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So we see some messianic flavors

here in Psalm, 1 46 and delicious.

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So I'm 1 47 then, uh, this song

has the markers of being post

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exhibit could probably meaning

after the exile, as they return.

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We've been reading second

Chronicles again, probably written

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to a post exotic audience there.

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I am possibly, this was used in

connection to the rebuilding of the

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walls when the, the post exhilaration.

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Uh, company came back.

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And rebuilt the walls of Jerusalem there.

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So verse two, the Lord builds up Jerusalem

and gathers the outcast of Israel.

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That's one of the reasons that we

make decisions like that heals the

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broken hearted, binds up their wounds.

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This is the idea of restoring the nation.

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Uh, those that were broken hearted

over the exile, those were broken

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hearted over being away from Jerusalem.

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So he's bringing people back here.

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And that's causing them

to praise the Lord.

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I think it was really

interesting here in verse four.

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Uh, that he says he determines

a number of the stars and he

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gives all of them their names.

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Again, w it was recently that I was

preaching in what is now true north.

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And telling them God, God, numbers of

stars, any names, he just, he names 200

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billion trillion stars, which is the

estimation of how many stars there are.

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That's a lot of stars,

200 billion trillion.

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I don't know how much that

actually works out to, but

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it's, it's, it's mind boggling.

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You'll never be able to wrap your mind

around that, but that shows the extent of

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God's intimate knowledge of his creation.

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And if, of course, if he knows

that for the stars, then as

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Jesus points out later on.

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Well, he not care for you, right?

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I'm really encouraged by verses

like this because it shows me

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God's mag like magnificent nature.

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He's large.

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He's impressive.

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He's bigger than I can comprehend.

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And he cares about little

old, you know, little old me.

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I find that so comforting

and so encouraging.

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So for those men out there

who bought the star for their

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wife and named the Starfleet.

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Got already named buddy.

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Oh, man.

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Okay.

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Well waste of money then

I guess don't do that.

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All right.

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Psalm 1 48.

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Some 1 48.

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This Psalm is a called a praise,

the Lord, a call for all of

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creation to praise the Lord.

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Um, praise him, praise him, praise him.

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So repetitive again.

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There.

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Uh, praise the Lord from the earth.

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Praise the Lord.

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You great CRI.

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Sea creatures and all deeps.

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I like it.

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When scripture addresses God's creation.

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And commands his creation to

praise him and worship him.

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It's it's just a cool.

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Uh, it's a, it's a cool image there

that, uh, that we find from the, the

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writers of scripture multiple times.

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And this one is just a universal

call on creation to praise God.

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And you might notice too, as you

read through this, that he starts

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from the greatest to the smallest

or the greatest to this small.

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To the least, he starts from the

heavens, the Heights of heavens.

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And then he goes into the highest

heavens that is above the earth.

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And then he goes into the,

the, the earth itself.

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And then he goes into the sea.

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And that the big creatures there.

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And then he goes into the

children of man, like mankind.

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We ended up being some of the very last

people that he mentioned here, those

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Kings and all the, all the peoples of

the earth, young men, old man children.

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He says, let everybody

great and small, essentially

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everybody and everything great.

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And small praise the Lord.

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And that's exactly what's going to happen.

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God is going to bring this to fruition.

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All of the earth.

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Newly created in Christ

will praise him perfectly.

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And, and, and beautifully, I.

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I think I can't, I can't wait for that.

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This song will be fulfilled.

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Yeah.

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Yeah in.

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Yeah, Philippians two,

every knee will bow.

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Every tongue will confess that Jesus

Christ is Lord of the glory of.

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And broken creation will be restored.

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Yeah.

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Amazing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, someone 49.

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Some one forty nine, a call for

Israel to praise the Lord and to

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execute vengeance on his behalf.

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So this is interesting because

this is a call to worship.

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But then also, uh, look at verse six,

let the high praises of God be in their

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throats and two edged sword in their

hands to execute vengeance on the nations

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and punishments on the peoples to bind

their Kings with chains and their Nobles

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with fetters of iron to execute on them.

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The judgment written, this is

the honor for all his godly ones.

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So here God is in involving his people

in executing vengeance on his enemies.

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This is an interesting.

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I had to, I had to think about

this in a little bit, but.

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Here's here's.

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What's interesting too, in addition

to this Psalm being interesting.

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Christians will rule

and reign with Christ.

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No, we will judge.

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People and angels will judge the nations.

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We're going to have a role with

Christ to judge, which I don't know.

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I don't know how many people

think about this with any degree

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of regularity, but this is a

fascinating part of our salvation.

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We are not going to feel like, oh man,

I feel bad about judging this person

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who am I to judge while Christ says you

are, because he's going to give you.

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Uh, rulership, he's going to

give you co air ruling reigning.

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Determinative at judging among the

nations, which is a fascinating

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thought what an incredible thought.

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And I think scripture speaks clearly.

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This is an honor for all his godly ones.

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Now the, the honor here is it looks like.

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The, the judgment of the nations

through Israel, but for us, the honor

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that we're going to share with Christ

is that we get to rule and reign with

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him and that's gonna include judging.

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Um, I often think about the afterlife and

people that will be judged for their sin.

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And I tremble at that thought.

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'cause I don't like that.

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I don't, I, I chafe against that.

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I it's hard for me to swallow that.

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This tells me that in the new

heavens and the new earth.

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Christians will have a proper view

of God's justice and they will not,

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we will not struggle with that.

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We will say, this is right.

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God has vindicated.

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God has justified in doing this.

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And we will.

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Enjoy and celebrate his justice

being laid out like this.

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Yeah, it seems that this is, I mean,

certainly eschatological and view.

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Uh, I think for this particular Psalm

probably has the millennial kingdom

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in view, um, when Israel will be

this, uh, rod of justice for God.

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Uh, with the nations because

the nations will be there.

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And you think about a thousand years.

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Uh, this is not a time

where everybody is sinless.

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People are being born in.

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They're being born with a sin nature

still during this thousand year reign.

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Now Satan is bound fascinating.

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So it's not as, uh, Perhaps rampant

as it is when we look around our

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society and culture, and yet people

will still rebel just naturally

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because of their fallen nature.

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And so Israel will be used

by God during that time.

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To execute adventure.

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It's the reason I say that and that I

don't think this applies to the final

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battle for example, is when you read

about the final battle in revelation,

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which we'll get to at the end of the year.

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There there's no, there's

no bullets flying.

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There's there's no swords clashing there.

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This is the one little

word shall fell him.

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Like the song says, I mean,

that, that's what happens.

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The tongue.

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The two edged sword that emerges

from the, from the mouth of Christ.

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That's all that's needed to defeat

Satan and his armies and everybody

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else gets the word and is done.

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Right.

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So.

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I think this is more millennial kingdom.

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They're kind of the, the military force

for DOD during the millennial kingdom.

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Judgment is good.

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It's an honor for the

saints to engage in that.

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Right.

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Right.

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So I'm one 50, then someone 50, the last

Psalm of the book of Psalms assaulter.

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So if you have a trivia question,

how many songs are there?

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150.

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This one's like, again short,

not long, uh, six verses.

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And I just love the way that it ends.

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I think it's so appropriate.

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Let everything that has breath.

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Praise the Lord.

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Praise the Lord that's.

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A fitting end of the book of Psalms that

so much of what the Psalms are about.

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And I would also point out too,

in this particular Psalm, you

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have justification for the use

of a multiplicity of instruments.

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It's almost as if whoever's

writing, this is saying, look,

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whatever you got, bring it.

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Let's let's use, let's use this.

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Let's use that.

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Now granted for a worship band, we have

a pretty set number of we're not using a

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whole lot of different entry on the loot.

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No Lutes this time.

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Uh, but, but this is justification

for the, the utility of instruments.

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I.

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I don't have a.

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Well, I guess we haven't, we

haven't talked about this yet.

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Have we talked about the

relative regulative versus the

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normative principle of worship?

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From the Psalms.

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So there are churches.

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I don't think we have right now.

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Regular.

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So there are churches that believe.

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That the worship in the

scriptures regulate.

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What you're able to do.

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That God's exacting worship demands

that you use his worship song book.

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So there are some churches

that will only sing the Psalms.

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They will only sing Psalm 1

49 and it's all in one 15.

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It's on 1 47.

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Uh, and they believe that because

God is so precise and, and his

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demands for what his worship is that.

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It would be an error to stray from that.

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Now you've probably not

been to a church like that.

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Most of us who are listening

don't know that experience.

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Uh, because we would follow

churches that understand the

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normative principle that is.

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Scripture norms, our worship expectations.

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It provides a guide and it calibrates our

understanding of what worship should be.

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So it doesn't.

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Restrain us or constrain us

into a certain reg regularly.

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It doesn't sir.

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Norma in a certain regulations.

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But it allows us to say within

this bounds, within these

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constraints do worship like this.

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And so we would look at someone 50 and

say, this gives us a justification to

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use instruments, not just these here.

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But all instruments.

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Uh, all instruments that we have access

to David invented instruments for the sake

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of worship, and we should be okay with

utilizing the tools that God gives us.

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So there you go.

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Normative versus regulative.

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Regulative means scripture regulates

constraints or worship normative

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means scripture, norm norms it and.

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It gives us expectations

about how to approach worship.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's helpful.

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And that's, that's actually that view

of the Psalms only is kind of gaining

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some steam in some circles today.

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And pushing back against

the current culture and some

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of the trite stuff that we.

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Here in churches.

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Yes Lord.

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Yes, Lord.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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That's a classic.

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Not trite.

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Yeah, so that's, uh, that's helpful.

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To help you guys understand

where we're coming from.

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Where are you going to

get a baseline like that?

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Well there's dude, there's some

churches they don't use the base.

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Do.

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Well, this Psalm one 50 says

we should use the banks back.

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The church of Christ says

no instruments at all.

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That's true.

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That's true.

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And I would wonder how they would

have, I mean, they have other

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issues besides that, but I wonder

how they would look at someone 50.

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But, I mean, I think the

argument is this is Israel.

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This is not the church.

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And so that's why the differences there.

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It's funny, not funny.

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I would.

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I would be curious to see how they look

at the rest of scripture because that

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kind of hermeneutic is really hard to

be consistent with across the board.

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You could apply just to the

solid, but they understand well,

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Is that just to Israel then?

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Should you only the 10 commandments

only for Israel, right?

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Um, yeah.

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Anyway.

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Yep.

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Well, I think the Lord is

pleased with instruments.

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I think he's pleased with.

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Worship voices.

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Exuberant voices.

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Yeah, which.

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We have talking about exuberance.

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God wants our exhibit.

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He doesn't want our

stale and flacid worship.

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He wants joy.

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He wants gladness.

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Yeah.

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And sometimes it's hard.

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Cause sometimes you walk

in on a Sunday morning.

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You don't feel that it's really hard.

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Yeah.

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I think most Sunday mornings, I

would say people aren't feeling

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that they're not ready for that.

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Right.

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We're not ready for that.

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Right.

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Which goes into preparing our

hearts for worship beforehand.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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Hey, keep it in your Bibles.

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Tune it again tomorrow father's day.

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For another episode of the daily Bible

podcast, the father's day edition.

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See you then.

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Bye.