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Episode #190 - Raising The Next Generation of Leaders Through Example: An Interview With Danielle Angela
Episode 195 • Bonus Episode • 30th January 2025 • Speaking From The Heart • Joshua D. Smith
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"Finding your calling" is not an easy task when you boil it all down. It means going through many different trials in life and experiencing hardships that others may not necessarily endure that you have the "unfortunate opportunity" to go through. However, what if those "trials" were setting you up for something far greater in terms of your purpose in life? Today's episode features Dr. Danielle Angela, a medical practitioner that has helped thousands of individuals achieve their self worth, but navigate through a variety of complex situations that have attuned her own ability to be self-sufficient. As a single parent, learn how Danielle has been able to not only find balance in her personal endeavors, but how it has been amplified to give purpose & direction to countless others in the medical field, and how that calling has defined her success in her high-ranking business. Your calling is only finding not only the right people to surround you, but those who have been able to overcome challenges already to help steer you in the right direction!

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Dr. Danielle Angela is a profit strategist, money coach, chiropractor, hypnotherapist and neurosomatic release practitioner. Since 2015, Dr. Danielle has offered life and business coaching for female health and wellness entrepreneurs and has helped 1000s of business owners achieve greater work-life balance and profitability, achieving the top 3% of revenue-generating female entrepreneurs in 2022. She is best known for helping service providers overcome fears about money, charge their worth, and build highly profitable freedom-based businesses utilizing both business strategies and somatic healing modalities from 20 years in holistic health and wellness. As the host of her own podcast, and a new one called “Wellness + Worth” starting in Fall 2024, Dr. Danielle has produced over 300 podcast episodes in the last 8 years, and is a sought-after speaker featured at notable chiropractic events since 2018. Danielle’s greatest achievement, though, is raising three daughters as a single mom.

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Intro:

Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and

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determination all converge into

an amazing, heartfelt experience.

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This is Speaking From The Heart.

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Joshua: Welcome back to episode

number 190 of Speaking from the Heart.

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Today, we have Dr.

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Danielle Angela with us, and Dr.

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Danielle is a profit strategist, money

coach, chiropractor, hypnotherapist,

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and neurosomatic release practitioner.

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Since 2015, Dr.

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Danielle has offered life and business

coaching for female health and wellness

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entrepreneurs, and has helped thousands

of business owners achieve greater

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work life balance and profitability,

achieving the top 3 percent of revenue

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generating female entrepreneurs in 2022.

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She's best known for helping service

providers overcome fears about money,

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charge their worth, and build highly

profitable freedom based businesses

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utilizing both business strategies

and somatic healing modalities from 20

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years in holistic health and wellness.

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As the host of her own podcast and

a new one called Wellness Plus Worth

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which has started in fall of 2024, Dr.

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Danielle has produced over 300 podcast

episodes in the last 8 years, and is

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a sought after speaker featured at

notable chiropractic events since 2018.

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Danielle's greatest achievement,

though, is raising three

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daughters as a single mom.

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I think this doctor, especially of

what she brings to the table today,

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really shares a number of different

perspectives, not only about what

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females can do, which we have featured

so many of them, being able to showcase

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their ability to become so much

more, but yet, at the same time, Dr.

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Danielle, at the heart, really

shares what freedom is all about.

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It isn't just about working hard

and having all these notable

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achievements which I just read,

but also about having a strong work

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ethic, having that balance, but yet

at the same time, building freedom.

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You need to figure out what's really

important, and I think we talk about what

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that important factor is especially in

this interview today, but with all the

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things that she has done to help herself

in her health, let that reality sink in.

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You can have a positive direction in your

life, regardless of the setbacks that you

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might have, but it's all about ownership.

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Being able to work on yourself, being

able to build that niche for yourself,

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that is, means that you have to work

on your challenges, but also creating

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those opportunities at the same time.

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It's a way in which we're able to find

not only freedom, but also being able to

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help others, and I think what you'll find

today with this interview is that Dr.

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Danielle has really improved not only her

life quality, but the life quality of so

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many others, because of her awesome work

doing that for so many others, regardless

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of what she might receive in return.

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But with that, let's go to the episode.

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All right.

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We're here with Danielle Angela.

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Danielle, thanks for sharing

your heart with us today.

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Danielle: Thanks so much for having me.

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When we were chatting before we

were recording, you said, "Ask

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anything.", and I was like, "Great.

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What do I want to ask?"

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I think I'll just ask you: What has

been the best part of your day so far?

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Joshua: Ooh.

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That is a good question.

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I have to tell you.

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I have always enjoyed getting up

in the morning, and I got up super

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early this morning, and the favorite

thing I like doing is just coming

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in my office and grounding myself,

and I don't know what it is about

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grounding myself that kind of helps

me with my day, but I feel the energy.

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I feel a sensation of just all the things

that are moving in me, and it allows me

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to kind of center myself, so I like that

question, because I normally don't get

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asked that, so you kind of threw me off.

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That was a good thing.

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I'm glad you asked that.

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Danielle: That was the goal, right?

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Joshua: Yeah.

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Danielle: When you say grounding

yourself, what is it that you actually do?

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Joshua: I sometimes take my shoes

off fun fact, and literally, I

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have carpet in my office, so for my

listeners, I know this is just audio

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only, but I have carpet in my office.

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It's colored gray, and it's like that

thin carpet that you walk around.

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It's not squishy or anything like that.

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It doesn't have any padding.

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It's just laid there for purposes

of that, whatever nature it is to

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serve, but I try to ground myself

in it, and I do clean, okay?

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I don't want you to freak out because

like I do clean up, because I have clients

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coming in and all that, but I find it

that when I do that, and I'm just in

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touch with what is like around me, I

feel like there's a peace to that, and

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I don't know how to quite explain it.

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I've tried to explain this to other

people outside the show, but it's

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almost like it helps me with moving my

direction, and sometimes my direction

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is a little bit scattered, so it kind of

helps me to center that direction too,

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because I really am all about helping

other people, so I love that question.

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Thanks for getting me thinking about it.

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Danielle: Can I share my best

part of my day so far with you?

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Joshua: I want to hear that.

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Please do.

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Danielle: It's actually really funny

because you mentioned that the best

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part of your day was getting up, and

going into your office and grounding.

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The best part of my day was

completely the opposite.

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It was sleeping in late this morning.

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Joshua: Well, I'll tell you.

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I did that earlier this week, because

I had that sort of energy that I

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needed to have, so we need that rest,

and I even tell my clients that too.

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We need to have that rest.

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You got to listen to your body.

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Danielle: Yeah, my kids are with

their dad on Wednesday and Thursday

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nights, every week; at least that's

what we've been doing, and so when

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Wednesday comes, I'm just like, "Oh.

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Okay.

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Time for some rest.", so yeah.

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Sleeping in on Thursday mornings

is like- that's a big part of

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recovering from usually five

days or so of being a single mom.

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Joshua: Isn't that so interesting?

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It's the second part of the week, but

yet it's a Thursday, and for me, at

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least in my world, like that's a rarity

in itself that I'd be able to do that.

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Friday.

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Okay.

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Everybody kind of does it.

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We kind of "chillax."

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We know that the weekend's coming

up, but for me, a Thursday, if I get

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that blessing, that's pretty good.

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It has to feel pretty good for you

too, especially with like you said, you

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have the number of kids that you have.

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Danielle: Yes.

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Yeah.

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Thank you, actually, for mentioning

that because I think that is

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something that I haven't been a

business owner now since 2012.

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It's something that I take for granted.

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Having time freedom was the biggest reason

that I wanted to own my own business as

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far back as 2002, or 2003, and I have that

time freedom now in so many ways, and it's

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easy to look at what we don't have, right,

and still the ways that I want things

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to be different, but just hearing you

say that really reframed for me the time

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freedom that I actually do have already.

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Joshua: I want to dig into that as

actually my turn to ask a question

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because I am super interested in this

and I already let the listeners know a

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lot about you before we even got started.

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But what led you into wanting

to have that time freedom?

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Obviously.

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I know that your kids are very important

facet of your life, and I love that.

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I love hearing that, because sometimes

we forget about what the priorities

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are, what we're ultimately doing,

and you're one of the few guests I've

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had that prioritize that, so tell us.

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What has that meant for

you to have that freedom?

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Danielle: Well, as I mentioned,

I've really wanted to own my own

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business since around 2002 or 2003.

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I was 22 or 23 at that time,

and I had spent a number of

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years already working for other

people; working for big companies.

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Really, I worked for a

national pharmacy chain.

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I had worked in a few different

retail settings, and I always had

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to work someone else's schedule.

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I didn't get to choose my shifts.

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I didn't get to choose what time I

went into work or left work I mean, I

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can maybe make some requests, and my

bosses generally knew that I wasn't a

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morning person, and I prefer the evening

shift, if possible, but that wasn't

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necessarily ideal either, because who

wants to go to work at one, and not

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get home until 10 o'clock at night?

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I don't know.

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That doesn't sound great either, so

just from like very early on in my

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young adult years, I had a really

strong work ethic, and I thought, "Man.

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If I'm going to work this hard for any

business, it might as well be my own,

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so that I can make my own schedule."

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and then I started my own business

only after I had had my oldest child.

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She's now 13.

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She was one, I think, at the time, and I

started the business so that I could have

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more freedom to be with her and see her

grow up, because I felt like I was really

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missing out on a lot of her milestones.

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I left a job where I had a salary,

and paid vacations, and I had finally

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worked my way up to getting a corner

office with windows on two sides

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of the room after having no windows

for a long time, and lots of amazing

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benefits at the place that I worked at.

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I had no savings.

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I just quit my job, and I was like,

"I'm going to start a business.", and

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that's what I did, but I found really

quickly that it wasn't quite as easy as

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I thought that it was going to be not

necessarily in regards to business growth.

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I was really good at getting the

business to grow, but it wasn't good at

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was prioritizing myself and my family.

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For quite a while, I let the business

be the most important thing in my

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life, and the thing that I did pretty

much every day of the week, but that's

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what I thought that I needed to do to

be successful, so that's what I did.

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Joshua: Yeah, and I've worked

with some business owners.

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I've worked with people that are

potentially business owners too,

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where they have even said some of

the things that you've said, where

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they feel that balance, trying to

find it, which I have even learned,

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even myself, and I've been doing

this now for a little over two years.

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There's no such thing as balance.

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You're really busy, and then

you're really slow, but you also

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find ways that you prioritize

your personal time in doing that.

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I'm kind of curious.

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What led you to finding where

you needed to work on that more?

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Was there a breaking point for you?

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Was there something else that happened?

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I'm curious how that came about for you.

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Danielle: Yeah.

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I had started my business, and then,

maybe a year or two later, I conceived

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a pregnancy that was not planned,

although I was very excited, and

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I thought, "Well, this is amazing.

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This is an excuse for me to now change

how I'm working, and start to make some

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changes in my business so that I'm able to

be more present with my kids.", and near

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the end of the first trimester of that

pregnancy, I had a miscarriage, and I was

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really, really torn up by that experience.

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It was very difficult, and then, eight

weeks later, I was pregnant again, and at

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that point I felt like nothing was more

important to me than having a healthy

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baby, and if it meant walking away

from my career, then that's what I was

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going to do, and so that's what I did.

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I handed the keys of my business over

to another chiropractor that I had known

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since before either of us had ever gone to

chiropractic school, so I had a great deal

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of trust in him, and I was like, "Here.

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You take this.

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I don't want it anymore.", and

he was like, "Are you sure?"

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I'm like, "Yeah.

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Let's just make this easy.",

and I gave him the keys.

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I walked away, and in that next phase

of my life, I had a lot more space,

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obviously, than I'd had for a long time.

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I started to study listening to

podcasts, reading a lot of books.

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I took a course in online

business, and I thought, "This

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is what I have been missing."

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The course that I took was simply

about designing a business that fits

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around your lifestyle, instead of

building a business, and then trying

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to, maybe one day, have some life.

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It was such an eyeopening concept to me.

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I had never heard someone explain

business ownership in that way before,

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or the potential to have a business

that really did allow you to have

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time freedom, even though that was

the thing I had been wanting for so

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long, at that point, over a decade.

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What I did next then was I started to take

what I had been learning from podcasts,

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and books, about online entrepreneurship

and apply it to my profession, which

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was chiropractic, and I realized if

I could take some of the things that

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I've learned outside of my industry,

and apply it to my industry, I can also

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help a lot of people, because there's a

very high burnout rate in chiropractic.

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There's a high burnout rate in

any kind of caring position-

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Joshua: Yes.

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Danielle: A caring role.

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Joshua: My mom was a LPN before

she retired, and she worked

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at a nursing facility, so I

completely understand that context.

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Danielle: Yeah.

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Yeah, so that's what I did next.

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I just started to kind

of create a methodology.

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I started to help more women, who

were also chiropractors, who also

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had children, who felt like I did.

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If this is what it takes to be successful

in practice, I don't want to do

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this, but is there maybe another way?

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How can I make this look different,

and that's sort of the beginning

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of my online business journey.

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Joshua: When you say that you listened

to podcasts, or even books for

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that matter, can you give us like

a couple of those that maybe you

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listened to that were inspirational,

because I feel, sometimes, when some

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people have said even to me, "Hey.

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You should check this out.", they

throw me to Simon Sinek, John Maxwell.

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Those are the business gurus, leadership

thought experts, but in your field,

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I'm sure that there are people that

would probably love to hear even what

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you inspired to, what you aspired

to, I should say, based on what you

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had listened to, so I wonder if you

can share what some of those were.

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Danielle: One of the first things

that comes to my mind is a podcast

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that was hosted by two high school

A&P biology teachers; AP biology.

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One of the teachers, I believe, lives

in Montana, and one, perhaps, in

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New York or New Jersey, somewhere on

the East Coast; like Northeast, and

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I was listening to their podcast.

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I don't exactly remember how I found it.

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I think one of them had a YouTube

channel where he taught different

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concepts regarding biology, or anatomy,

physiology, and so I would sometimes use

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his videos in class when I taught part

time at a university during this time,

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and I would just use some of his videos

to explain concepts, especially if they

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were concepts that I struggled to teach

myself, so I would just use the video.

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" Well!

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Here you go, everyone.", so then I found

the podcast that he and another instructor

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had started, and by listening to the

podcast on my drive back and forth from

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work every day, I thought, "You know what?

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If these two guys can do this,

I bet I could do this too."

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When you first asked the question,

"What was I listening to?", I tried

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to remember the name of the podcast.

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At first, I thought, "It

was Vertical Horizon.

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No.

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No.

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No.

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That's a band."

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I think the name of the podcast was

actually Horizontal Transfer, which

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is like a chemistry kind of term.

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I don't know if it's still out there.

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It might be findable.

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Another resource that was

really important to me.

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The course, actually, that I took was B

School, and that's taught by Marie Forleo.

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She still teaches it today.

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It's quite a bit different now than it

was then, but it's a very in depth course.

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There's a lot of

information packed into it.

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It's really best for people that

don't have a business yet, or they've

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really been trying to start one,

and it's just not gotten anywhere.

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I would say, even further than that, for

people that want to transition from like

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a corporate job into entrepreneurship,

and they know that they want to

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do that in an online way as well.

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Joshua: I asked you that question

on purpose, because, to kind of

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switch gears a bit, now you're

even hosting your own podcast.

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You're doing all kinds of episodes.

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You're helping people to find that

money, to find that opportunity

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to serve or overcome fears with

that, as it says on your website.

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I'm wondering if you can tell us a little

bit of why that was the specific niche

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that you chosen, because, like you said.

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You were doing chiropractor work,

you were doing all kinds of other

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things in your life, so I'm wondering.

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Why was that the focus?

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Was there something that kind of led

you into thinking that, or maybe it

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was a gift that you haven't used?

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I'm kind of really fascinated by

how that shift had occurred to you.

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Danielle: Well, really, when I first

started to try to start an online

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business, I wasn't going in the direction

of supporting female chiropractors.

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I have a sports chiropractic background.

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I have a master's degree in

sports science and rehabilitation.

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I worked in a gym when I was in

college I used to sell gym memberships.

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I did personal training.

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I've taught group fitness, so I

kind of come from that world, so I

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thought that would be what I would

focus on in my online business, and

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really, I never could create traction.

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I felt like I was doing a lot of busy

work, but wasn't actually growing a

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business, and I eventually got to a

point where I was getting so frustrated.

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I hired a business coach, and worked

with her personally, and she was like,

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"I think that we just need to refine

who it is that you're helping, what

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you're helping them with.", and through

our conversations, in our very first

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session, she said, "Are you sure that

you don't want to be doing business

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coaching for female chiropractors?",

and I was like, "I can't do that.

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I'm not qualified to do

that.", and she said, Mmhmm.

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Okay."

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but then within just a couple of

weeks, that's what we had settled

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on, and once I made that decision,

everything started to shift.

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My business really started

to take off from there.

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Joshua: Do I hear a little

bit of detection of imposter

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syndrome as we got started?

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Danielle: Oh yeah.

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Joshua: What were some of the initial

thoughts that were running through your

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head, because I love the fact, first off,

you're working with a business coach.

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Even for myself, coaches need

coaches, and I'm even trying to

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do that even in my life right now.

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I'm wondering for you, what

was the ultimate turning point

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for that to push forward?

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Was it something that

she said as your coach?

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Was it something that you kind of

reminisced on and said, "You know.

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I'm getting in my own way."

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what was that switch moment

for you; that light switch that

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turned on that made that happen?

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Danielle: Well, I thought, "If I can

step away from the fear, the doubt, that

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imposter syndrome, then maybe I would

be able to help women have a different

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experience than what I had, and help

them to just be happier, and have more

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longevity in the career that we chose."

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We invest a lot to go

to chiropractic school.

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The cost is very high.

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It's similar to medical school in regard

to length, and cost, and difficulty,

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and so, a lot of chiropractors

finished chiropractic school with $200,

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$300,000 of student loan debt, and

that is a lot of money to pay back.

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It's a lot.

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It's very difficult if you leave the

chiropractic profession, because,

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unfortunately, our degree doesn't

really offer another career path

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outside of entrepreneurship where

we have the same earning potential.

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Some of the statistics say that

female chiropractors, the majority

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stopped practicing five years after

graduation, and so that means the

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vast majority of cases, they've not

made a dent on their student loan debt

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in those first five years of their

career, then they might become stay at

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home moms, or maybe, they're working

part time at a school like I did.

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They might completely change careers,

and go into real estate, but regardless,

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their earning potential decreases

significantly, and then they're stuck

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with that student loan debt for decades.

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It's a vicious cycle, and I thought,

"Maybe this is the way to go.

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Maybe I can help some people avoid that

scenario, and I'll follow this business

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coach's advice and see what happens."

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Joshua: It was almost like

a leap of faith for you.

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Danielle: Very much.

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Joshua: You remind me a little bit of

what even my journey has been, because I

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thought I would be a lawyer by this point.

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I would have been successful in the

courtroom, and doing all kinds of

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amazing things, but the one thing that

stood in my way was the 2008 financial

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crash, which defined a whole generation

of millennials in terms of what their

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path was, and a lot of lawyers were

being rescinded job offers at firms

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at that time, and I kind of thought to

myself, "If I did this, and also went

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to law school, I would be hundreds of

thousands of dollars in debt without

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anything to show for it.", but I find

it that I'm glad that I didn't do that,

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looking back, for a variety of reasons.

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Even as you say, you look back, and

you can see all these other people that

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maybe have not made it, or had made

it made some moderate success, but to

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say that you worked with someone to

take that to that next level and see

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the results that you have, that speaks

volumes, and I want to point this out.

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It's a very important point, and

I even shared with my listeners

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that you even have accomplished.

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You have made seven figures now as

a successful female entrepreneur.

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You're in the top 3 percent

as of the last few years.

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What has that meant for you to

go from where you were kind of

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questioning yourself, to now

being in this success category?

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Does that mean for you

though that are you stopping?

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Keep on plowing forward?

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What does it mean for you

to have this success, but to

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also continue helping others?

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What does it mean?

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Danielle: Oh, wow.

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That's a great question.

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I earned that ranking, I guess you could

say, and yet, it's often really hard

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for me to, like, really connect with it.

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Like, "Wow!

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I've really done that.

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I've really done that.

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but I'll be very transparent here, and

a big part of the reason why it's felt

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difficult for me to own that is because

I'm not debt free, and a big part of the

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reason why I'm not debt free is because

I experienced financial abuse in a

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previous relationship, and it's going to

take me quite some time to recover from

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that, so, in regards to continuing to

grow as an entrepreneur, that's a yes.

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I have really big financial goals ahead

of me, especially now as a single mom,

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and I also feel like I'm just really

starting to come into ownership of

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my purpose in all of this, which has

become bigger than maybe helping some

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other doctors stay in practice longer.

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For me, it's become like if health and

wellness practitioners of all kinds

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are successful in their business,

that means that they're helping more

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people, and if they're helping more

people, then surely, the outcome

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of that is that we have a healthier

community at large, right, and so

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that's really the bigger mission for me.

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That's a way that I can

make a legacy, essentially.

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If I can help more business owners be

successful in their business, and they're

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helping their clients, whether they're

coaches, doctors, massage therapists,

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acupuncturists, whatever it might be,

then we are all collectively making a more

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significant impact in our communities.

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Joshua: Wow.

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I was not expecting that as an answer.

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I was waiting for you to be like, "Yeah.

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You know, I'm great.

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I have employees.

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I have people that work for me.

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I'm doing what I want to do now.

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I have that time freedom.", and you threw

a curveball at me that I would have never

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expected, and now I see why this is such

a passion for you, Danielle, because

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helping other people to achieve that

you're working through that, despite all

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the things that have happened, and we

don't even have to dig into it, because

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to me, just hearing that tells me so

much about your personality of why this

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is so important to you, why you want

to help females, because that is what

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drives you, because you have seen that.

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You're working on it still, and

yeah, you admitted like you might

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not have all the pieces together,

but I'm still working on it.

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I'm willing to work with others

because I've seen the success from it.

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What has it meant for you to be able

to continue doing this journey then,

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helping these people that maybe are in

a similar situation for you, and they

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have been achieving success, so in other

words, when you've worked with these

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00:25:25,238 --> 00:25:27,648

people that are looking for the same.

431

00:25:28,288 --> 00:25:30,138

Maybe they were looking

for that financial freedom.

432

00:25:30,148 --> 00:25:33,348

Maybe they're looking for that time

back as you've have said, like you

433

00:25:33,348 --> 00:25:34,828

want to have that time freedom.

434

00:25:35,824 --> 00:25:39,844

Has that helped you in your own

personal journey to attain what

435

00:25:39,844 --> 00:25:42,354

you have today, and if it has, why?

436

00:25:42,464 --> 00:25:43,184

In what way?

437

00:25:44,188 --> 00:25:48,088

Danielle: Well, what comes to ,me at

first, just hearing your question.

438

00:25:48,208 --> 00:25:51,448

I don't know that this really answers

your question directly, but, over the

439

00:25:51,448 --> 00:25:55,858

last two years since becoming a single

mom, working with my clients has been

440

00:25:55,868 --> 00:26:00,128

one of the most important things for

me, and I've become a better facilitator

441

00:26:00,178 --> 00:26:03,888

in combination of experiencing hard

things in life, myself, and being able

442

00:26:03,888 --> 00:26:07,448

to relate to all different kinds of

challenges that people face in real

443

00:26:07,448 --> 00:26:11,788

life, and creating a safe space for them.

444

00:26:11,818 --> 00:26:13,628

Also, when I can say, "Wow.

445

00:26:13,658 --> 00:26:16,978

I've been through something very similar,

and I know that you're going to be okay."

446

00:26:18,078 --> 00:26:23,954

As well as just like the actual

practice of improving my skills-

447

00:26:24,634 --> 00:26:24,914

Joshua: Yeah.

448

00:26:25,264 --> 00:26:29,204

Danielle: And learning new techniques

and new modalities as a coach, and so

449

00:26:29,214 --> 00:26:35,444

what has happened is my client's results

are blowing my mind the last couple of

450

00:26:35,444 --> 00:26:37,114

years, especially over the last year.

451

00:26:37,194 --> 00:26:43,131

Sometimes things happen for them, and they

share messages with me, and I'm like, How?

452

00:26:43,721 --> 00:26:44,341

How?

453

00:26:44,371 --> 00:26:45,351

How is this happening?

454

00:26:45,361 --> 00:26:50,571

This is amazing.", and sitting down at

my computer for a while, a few years

455

00:26:50,571 --> 00:26:55,031

ago, it used to feel like I was just kind

of going through the motions, or like

456

00:26:55,031 --> 00:26:59,941

counting down the minutes with people,

but now I am in a much different place.

457

00:27:00,444 --> 00:27:05,344

Oftentimes, I come to sit down at my desk

to meet with clients through Zoom, and I'm

458

00:27:05,394 --> 00:27:12,754

so dialed in, so focused on serving them,

that I leave feeling energized, and happy,

459

00:27:12,754 --> 00:27:14,634

and proud of the work that we're doing.

460

00:27:15,638 --> 00:27:16,038

Joshua: Yeah.

461

00:27:16,508 --> 00:27:20,298

I understand that feeling so well

even with the clients that I've worked

462

00:27:20,298 --> 00:27:25,743

with, and I feel that we have that

extra attention that we give, not just

463

00:27:25,743 --> 00:27:30,143

because they pay for us and pay for

the time, but knowing that they're

464

00:27:30,143 --> 00:27:34,743

working on themselves, and seeing

that they have that mind shift, or

465

00:27:34,993 --> 00:27:38,173

they're working on that business, or

they're working on whatever it is.

466

00:27:38,643 --> 00:27:41,863

I find that has been such a

rewarding experience out of

467

00:27:41,893 --> 00:27:43,923

everything I've been doing myself.

468

00:27:44,223 --> 00:27:47,813

I can relate to exactly what you're

saying, and I think that for people

469

00:27:47,813 --> 00:27:54,123

that achieve that it takes a special

kind of recognition for them to give

470

00:27:54,123 --> 00:27:55,463

themselves that space to say, "Yes.

471

00:27:55,463 --> 00:27:59,988

I was here, but I'm now here,

and I'm rising even further.

472

00:27:59,988 --> 00:28:03,848

I'm climbing that staircase, and I

see where that growth has taken us."

473

00:28:03,928 --> 00:28:04,718

I love that.

474

00:28:04,778 --> 00:28:05,668

I really do.

475

00:28:06,671 --> 00:28:11,961

I want to end with this, because

you also were working on a

476

00:28:11,981 --> 00:28:13,941

podcast that you are launching.

477

00:28:13,951 --> 00:28:16,571

It will be launched by

this episode when it airs.

478

00:28:16,588 --> 00:28:19,311

It's called the Charging

Your Worth Podcast.

479

00:28:20,351 --> 00:28:22,621

I wonder if you could tell our

listeners a little bit about that,

480

00:28:22,641 --> 00:28:26,501

and also congratulations on your

podcast that you had, which I

481

00:28:26,501 --> 00:28:27,861

would love if you shared that to.

482

00:28:28,121 --> 00:28:33,281

Having over 250 episodes is a crazy

thing to be doing in this day and age.

483

00:28:33,321 --> 00:28:36,491

I'm getting closer to that number,

believe it or not, with my schedule,

484

00:28:36,491 --> 00:28:41,811

but it's funny to see people that are

just pouring their hearts into content

485

00:28:41,821 --> 00:28:44,661

like that, so I wonder if we could talk

a little bit about that to wrap up.

486

00:28:45,171 --> 00:28:45,651

Danielle: Yeah.

487

00:28:45,786 --> 00:28:48,036

I've had a podcast since 2015.

488

00:28:48,036 --> 00:28:49,126

That's a long time.

489

00:28:49,286 --> 00:28:50,386

That's nine years.

490

00:28:50,476 --> 00:28:50,876

Joshua: It is.

491

00:28:50,936 --> 00:28:54,766

Danielle: Nine years of life that

I have given time, and energy,

492

00:28:54,766 --> 00:28:58,296

and money to, creating something

that hopefully has helped people.

493

00:28:58,366 --> 00:29:02,496

I say that to just also acknowledge you

for being at the point that you're at,

494

00:29:02,526 --> 00:29:12,116

having dedication, and the motivation, the

discipline that it takes to do something

495

00:29:12,196 --> 00:29:17,946

week after week, month after month,

and sometimes year after year, and as a

496

00:29:17,946 --> 00:29:19,886

podcaster, we sit behind a microphone.

497

00:29:20,036 --> 00:29:23,786

Sometimes we're talking with one or

two other people on the screen, and

498

00:29:23,786 --> 00:29:26,996

sometimes we're talking to ourselves,

and we don't know if anyone's listening,

499

00:29:27,326 --> 00:29:28,866

so it can be a challenging journey.

500

00:29:28,866 --> 00:29:32,303

It's definitely a labor

of love, so I do, yes.

501

00:29:32,403 --> 00:29:35,053

My original podcast is still out there.

502

00:29:35,073 --> 00:29:38,313

You can find it at the

healthandwellnesspractitionerspodcast.com.

503

00:29:38,923 --> 00:29:41,123

All 250 episodes are there.

504

00:29:41,143 --> 00:29:46,819

There's a lot of discussion for

the practitioner who owns their

505

00:29:46,819 --> 00:29:49,029

own business and wants to grow.

506

00:29:49,059 --> 00:29:52,499

Maybe they're looking at different,

unconventional methods, such as like

507

00:29:52,929 --> 00:29:58,479

having in person services combined

with virtual offerings as well, so

508

00:29:58,539 --> 00:29:59,629

there's a lot of good stuff there.

509

00:29:59,629 --> 00:30:05,088

I also talk a lot in the podcast about

managing and preventing burnout, and

510

00:30:05,088 --> 00:30:08,918

that's something that I speak and teach

on now for continuing education purposes.

511

00:30:08,918 --> 00:30:14,878

I teach a course for doctors

where I'm educating them on the

512

00:30:14,888 --> 00:30:17,953

diagnostic criteria for burnout.

513

00:30:18,143 --> 00:30:21,953

That means they can go back to their

practice, and see their patients, and

514

00:30:21,953 --> 00:30:28,303

know, clinically, what does the research

say the criteria are for a diagnosis of

515

00:30:28,313 --> 00:30:33,693

burnout in a patient, and then if the

diagnosis is made, what's the prognosis?

516

00:30:33,783 --> 00:30:39,413

What are the best practices, or management

tools and strategies, and then, open

517

00:30:39,413 --> 00:30:42,713

discussion around can we prevent burnout?

518

00:30:42,753 --> 00:30:48,113

Do we even know if we can do that, or do

we just relegate ourselves to, "It's going

519

00:30:48,113 --> 00:30:49,713

to happen to a certain percentage of us."

520

00:30:50,423 --> 00:30:55,889

Moving forward then with the new

podcast, it'll be a similar vibe, I

521

00:30:55,889 --> 00:30:59,343

suppose, because I'm the same person,

but a different focus is really

522

00:30:59,343 --> 00:31:00,933

going to be for service providers.

523

00:31:01,493 --> 00:31:06,843

They're good at what they do, and they

may, or may not, know that, and yet, as

524

00:31:06,843 --> 00:31:11,828

good as they are at what they do, they're

still struggling financially, and it's

525

00:31:11,828 --> 00:31:15,948

a really difficult place to be in, so,

that can apply for a lot of different

526

00:31:16,218 --> 00:31:20,094

professions: coaches, all kinds of

health and wellness practitioners, but

527

00:31:20,104 --> 00:31:26,684

I have a friend who owns a junk hauling

removal business, and even for him,

528

00:31:26,714 --> 00:31:31,914

the struggle is also the same as it has

been for me and for many of my clients.

529

00:31:32,574 --> 00:31:38,799

The more money he makes, the more

challenging it gets, because when he's

530

00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:42,469

making more money that means he's got more

clients, and more clients means more time,

531

00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:44,219

and he's still working a full time job.

532

00:31:44,829 --> 00:31:44,999

Joshua: Yes.

533

00:31:45,409 --> 00:31:45,689

Yes.

534

00:31:46,029 --> 00:31:48,869

Danielle: One of the things that he

struggles with is he gets requests

535

00:31:48,879 --> 00:31:52,953

for jobs, and he'll write a bid,

and people are like, "Oh, really?

536

00:31:52,953 --> 00:31:54,293

It's that inexpensive?

537

00:31:54,333 --> 00:31:54,863

Oh yeah!

538

00:31:54,963 --> 00:31:55,993

I'll hire you now.

539

00:31:56,223 --> 00:31:58,303

Here's the money.", and

then he's like, "Ugh!

540

00:31:58,693 --> 00:32:00,013

I should have charged him more.

541

00:32:00,023 --> 00:32:00,913

It was too easy."

542

00:32:01,133 --> 00:32:01,193

Joshua: Yeah.

543

00:32:01,723 --> 00:32:05,853

Danielle: He's also had times where

he's created bids for jobs that he

544

00:32:05,853 --> 00:32:09,453

didn't really want the job, and he

bid a little higher than what he

545

00:32:09,453 --> 00:32:12,123

thought the person would be willing

to pay, and then they were like, "Oh.

546

00:32:12,123 --> 00:32:12,563

Okay."

547

00:32:13,003 --> 00:32:18,873

They hired him anyway, so, regardless

of what kind of service you provide in

548

00:32:18,873 --> 00:32:23,993

your business, we all struggle with this

balance of being in service truly to

549

00:32:23,993 --> 00:32:28,913

people, while also protecting ourselves,

and protecting our longevity, and ensuring

550

00:32:28,913 --> 00:32:33,133

that we're not just working our lives

away, but we're building wealth that

551

00:32:33,133 --> 00:32:37,723

we can pass on to our families one day

that we can live secure lives with.

552

00:32:37,723 --> 00:32:42,483

For a long time, I think that the status

quo, or the expectation, was that if

553

00:32:42,493 --> 00:32:47,723

you care about people, you'll do what

you do for free, and that might seem

554

00:32:47,733 --> 00:32:50,933

very noble, but it's not realistic.

555

00:32:51,393 --> 00:32:57,853

Money as a resource, and when we feel a

resource, we feel safe, we feel secure,

556

00:32:58,153 --> 00:33:04,376

and when we feel safe and secure, we're

able to be co-regulators with people who

557

00:33:04,386 --> 00:33:09,566

need help, so the best way that we can

help other people is to be resourced,

558

00:33:10,066 --> 00:33:11,456

and money is just a part of that.

559

00:33:11,916 --> 00:33:15,101

That's kind of my long

answer to your question.

560

00:33:15,461 --> 00:33:15,911

Joshua: No.

561

00:33:15,931 --> 00:33:17,301

I love that long answer.

562

00:33:17,301 --> 00:33:21,141

You touched on so many different parts

that I wish if we had more time, we'd dive

563

00:33:21,141 --> 00:33:26,731

into more of those, but the one thing I

will pull out of it is the importance of

564

00:33:26,831 --> 00:33:32,041

building that worth so that not only are

you able to become the best version of

565

00:33:32,041 --> 00:33:38,111

yourself, which I use in my side of it to

help propel what is needed for our future.

566

00:33:38,391 --> 00:33:42,191

You're bringing the piece that we often

are afraid to talk about, and I was afraid

567

00:33:42,191 --> 00:33:45,171

to talk about when I first started, and

now I've gotten a lot more comfortable

568

00:33:45,171 --> 00:33:47,161

with, which is charging your worth.

569

00:33:47,511 --> 00:33:53,271

Being able to share what that is all

about is important to give yourself that

570

00:33:53,281 --> 00:33:56,891

love and respect that you deserve, and I

think there's such a balance with that.

571

00:33:56,931 --> 00:33:57,581

Absolutely.

572

00:33:57,581 --> 00:33:57,701

Danielle: Yeah.

573

00:33:58,541 --> 00:34:01,536

Joshua: Danielle, I want to say thank

you so much for being part of this show.

574

00:34:02,436 --> 00:34:05,246

I want to give you the last few

minutes though here before we wrap up.

575

00:34:05,336 --> 00:34:09,606

If people are interested in learning

how to charge their worth and being

576

00:34:09,606 --> 00:34:12,315

able to work with you, I wonder if

you can share a little bit of how

577

00:34:12,315 --> 00:34:16,956

they can do that: maybe your website,

your social media, all those things.

578

00:34:17,045 --> 00:34:19,496

Obviously, I'll put that in the episode

notes, but I wonder if you could

579

00:34:19,666 --> 00:34:21,806

also share it here for our listeners.

580

00:34:22,380 --> 00:34:22,771

Danielle: Yeah.

581

00:34:22,771 --> 00:34:26,721

For the new podcast, there is a

wait list available on my website.

582

00:34:26,721 --> 00:34:31,511

If you just land on the homepage,

drdanielleangela.com, then you can

583

00:34:31,571 --> 00:34:34,021

submit your name and email address

there to be notified when the new

584

00:34:34,071 --> 00:34:38,751

podcast is ready, and in the meantime,

come hang out with me on social media.

585

00:34:38,761 --> 00:34:41,380

I'm on Facebook and

Instagram @drdanielleangela.

586

00:34:41,985 --> 00:34:46,516

Instagram, I'm very, very dialed in

right now on a specific topic that I'm

587

00:34:46,516 --> 00:34:50,106

helping people with, which is for service

providers to get more referrals into

588

00:34:50,106 --> 00:34:53,666

their business so they can stop wasting

time on marketing, and advertising, that

589

00:34:53,666 --> 00:34:56,525

they don't really want to be doing in the

first place,, so if that's something that

590

00:34:56,536 --> 00:35:00,156

you want to learn more about, Instagram

is definitely the place to come hang out.

591

00:35:00,156 --> 00:35:00,384

Joshua: There you go.

592

00:35:00,384 --> 00:35:02,576

Go on Instagram.

593

00:35:02,576 --> 00:35:04,186

I'll have the link in the episode notes.

594

00:35:04,186 --> 00:35:06,176

You want to check that out,

and check out her handle.

595

00:35:06,706 --> 00:35:08,056

Danielle, I just want to say.

596

00:35:08,276 --> 00:35:11,196

I really appreciate you

being so open here today.

597

00:35:11,296 --> 00:35:14,106

It takes a lot of

vulnerability to share that.

598

00:35:14,431 --> 00:35:18,371

We want to help people, but we also have

to help ourselves first, and I love that

599

00:35:18,501 --> 00:35:22,601

you're still working on yourself, despite

the fact that you've achieved what many

600

00:35:22,601 --> 00:35:27,471

people would love to call success when

you say that, "Oh, I'm a seven figure

601

00:35:27,481 --> 00:35:32,626

business owner.", but financially, that

doesn't mean that you have everything

602

00:35:32,636 --> 00:35:36,456

that you ever want to achieve, and I

love that the pursuit of wanting to help

603

00:35:36,456 --> 00:35:42,226

women, to help their businesses, to help

others, that's just so admirable to me.

604

00:35:42,316 --> 00:35:46,096

It's something that just goes right

to the heart, for even me personally,

605

00:35:46,306 --> 00:35:49,886

of why I have people like you on the

show, because it's just so important to

606

00:35:50,186 --> 00:35:54,536

share that mission, share that purpose,

so for all those reasons, thanks for

607

00:35:54,536 --> 00:35:55,866

being on Speaking From The Heart today.

608

00:35:55,946 --> 00:35:59,796

I really loved the conversation and I wish

you much more success in your business.

609

00:36:00,796 --> 00:36:01,456

Danielle: Thank you.

610

00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:03,250

Joshua: I want to thank Dr.

611

00:36:03,250 --> 00:36:07,670

Danielle Angela again so much for being

part of the show, being able to share

612

00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:12,320

so much of her story, creating that

context for us of what it means to

613

00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,520

ground yourself, to focus on what really

matters the most, and she even said it

614

00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,070

in the beginning, it's about the kids.

615

00:36:20,235 --> 00:36:21,635

The kids are most important.

616

00:36:21,805 --> 00:36:26,155

You need to be able to prioritize what is

needed, and I appreciate her perspective,

617

00:36:26,405 --> 00:36:29,865

especially with everything that she's

achieved, being able to be the top

618

00:36:29,865 --> 00:36:34,455

three percent revenue generating female

entrepreneur, but yet at the same time,

619

00:36:34,665 --> 00:36:39,260

having this freedom that she's building,

that strength, and that's sometimes

620

00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:43,910

very hard, regardless of your gender,

to be able to achieve, because that

621

00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:48,540

means we have to look introspectively,

not only on what we need to work on,

622

00:36:48,770 --> 00:36:53,760

but also, in her case, and amongst

many other Americans that are single

623

00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,300

parents, having to take care of your

kids, finding those opportunities for

624

00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:03,330

ourselves so that we are able to grow

and prosper, but that also means that

625

00:37:03,330 --> 00:37:04,960

we have to have a strong work ethic.

626

00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,640

That's so important for our overall

development, and being able to start and

627

00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,550

grow that means that we have to figure

out what is truly important to us, but

628

00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:17,050

you have to find first that engagement.

629

00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:19,930

You need to find a place in

which you can put that trust

630

00:37:19,930 --> 00:37:23,490

into somebody, or something, so

that you can build a business.

631

00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,560

You can build your life with someone.

632

00:37:25,810 --> 00:37:29,660

You can even do things that you never

thought you could ever do, and I

633

00:37:29,660 --> 00:37:33,500

think that lifestyle is something that

we need to talk about for a moment.

634

00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:38,150

Is it about building a business so

that you can have that life, or is

635

00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:41,880

it about building your lifestyle,

so that you can have that business?

636

00:37:42,580 --> 00:37:46,560

I think that we use the time that

we're granted in a variety of ways.

637

00:37:46,990 --> 00:37:50,540

That content, that ability for us

to get ahead in life means that

638

00:37:50,540 --> 00:37:54,425

we have to shift our mindsets, and

that means that we have differing

639

00:37:54,425 --> 00:37:57,225

priorities of what those mindsets are.

640

00:37:58,205 --> 00:38:02,595

For Danielle's case, personal

training, health aspects, being

641

00:38:02,595 --> 00:38:04,235

able to take on those goals.

642

00:38:04,585 --> 00:38:09,165

That means that she, for many number

of years, worked with other people.

643

00:38:09,305 --> 00:38:11,175

She had to learn her craft.

644

00:38:11,475 --> 00:38:16,005

That fear, and that doubt, that we

have to overcome might come from not

645

00:38:16,025 --> 00:38:21,005

only longevity, which is a big part of

what we talked about today, but it's

646

00:38:21,005 --> 00:38:23,920

about also leading outside of this.

647

00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:29,410

How do we develop a successful career

so that we can help others, so that

648

00:38:29,410 --> 00:38:33,010

we are able to be the best versions of

who we are, and I think that's a very

649

00:38:33,010 --> 00:38:37,530

tough concept, because what defines

successful might be subjective in

650

00:38:37,530 --> 00:38:42,220

many people's perspectives and views,

but even with all those things said,

651

00:38:42,570 --> 00:38:47,030

success is something that we have to

define through not only our goal setting

652

00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:51,500

process, which is why defining them

is so important, but overcoming that

653

00:38:51,540 --> 00:38:56,900

fear, that doubt that we're not able to

overcome those things, which is why once

654

00:38:56,900 --> 00:39:01,750

we learn new things, and we learn what

we've done wrong in the past, that's

655

00:39:01,750 --> 00:39:04,020

what makes businesses really successful.

656

00:39:04,030 --> 00:39:09,315

That's what make people really successful,

is that they're able to overcome, get

657

00:39:09,315 --> 00:39:12,685

themselves in a positive direction,

despite any kind of setback that they

658

00:39:12,685 --> 00:39:18,055

might have, but more importantly, taking

ownership of what their actions were.

659

00:39:19,058 --> 00:39:19,978

I'll tell you.

660

00:39:20,008 --> 00:39:23,838

If there's anybody that has ever been an

expert on that, especially since being

661

00:39:23,838 --> 00:39:29,323

on this show, it's this person here that

you're listening to: your podcast host

662

00:39:30,053 --> 00:39:34,893

I've had to deal with so many different

things in my life that, for a long time,

663

00:39:35,113 --> 00:39:37,353

I didn't want to take ownership of those.

664

00:39:37,623 --> 00:39:42,083

That meant that I was weak, and as a

male, that can be very difficult, but

665

00:39:42,083 --> 00:39:47,343

even then, I think we can equally say,

in one respect or another, that we all

666

00:39:47,343 --> 00:39:51,873

have different situations, and that's

not to "mansplain" this situation.

667

00:39:52,133 --> 00:39:55,503

That's just to say that we all

go through these difficulties.

668

00:39:55,803 --> 00:40:00,443

The way in which we weigh that difficulty,

though, really depends on how much we're

669

00:40:00,443 --> 00:40:04,623

willing to put into it, but also how

much we're willing to change so that

670

00:40:04,723 --> 00:40:09,653

we can become better than what we were

in the past, but we have to realize

671

00:40:09,653 --> 00:40:13,248

that we could still be working on our

own challenges, but we also need to

672

00:40:13,258 --> 00:40:15,048

be working on our own opportunities.

673

00:40:15,358 --> 00:40:17,168

We need to be able to improve.

674

00:40:17,858 --> 00:40:22,772

Being able to be dialed in and focused,

not burning yourself out, means that

675

00:40:22,772 --> 00:40:26,417

you have to learn what is it that

you're really attuned to, and we've

676

00:40:26,417 --> 00:40:30,587

had many people that have had to go

through burnout before they were able

677

00:40:30,587 --> 00:40:33,227

to get to really where they were today.

678

00:40:33,807 --> 00:40:37,777

Being able to serve that population

niche, being able to protect ourselves,

679

00:40:38,057 --> 00:40:42,297

it means that we have to learn from each

other what has been successful, what has

680

00:40:42,297 --> 00:40:46,487

been failures, which is why coaching,

which is why masterminds, which is why

681

00:40:46,497 --> 00:40:51,647

small groups have been such a big turning

point, especially in the last 20 years,

682

00:40:51,967 --> 00:40:57,267

especially when we see the wide vibrancy

of so many of those groups, wanting to

683

00:40:57,267 --> 00:41:01,487

take on that challenge; wanting to help

people become better, whether that's

684

00:41:01,487 --> 00:41:04,907

learning a new skill, whether that's

having some sort of accountability,

685

00:41:05,087 --> 00:41:07,557

or just challenging that status quo.

686

00:41:08,277 --> 00:41:13,337

It's no secret that even Your Speaking

Voice LLC dives into that quite a lot.

687

00:41:13,537 --> 00:41:16,667

Even with all the things

that we offer, it's all about

688

00:41:16,747 --> 00:41:18,707

accountability at the end of the day.

689

00:41:18,942 --> 00:41:22,452

That's what we want you to have so that

you're able to become better than you

690

00:41:22,452 --> 00:41:26,672

once thought you could be, but it means

that you have to start somewhere, and

691

00:41:26,672 --> 00:41:28,352

that means you have to ground yourself.

692

00:41:28,662 --> 00:41:30,412

Learn what those problems are.

693

00:41:30,552 --> 00:41:35,252

Trying to address what those things

are, not necessarily by yourself, but

694

00:41:35,252 --> 00:41:39,842

by working with somebody, or a group of

people, that will help you every step

695

00:41:39,842 --> 00:41:45,152

of the way to become better than you

once thought possible, and for all those

696

00:41:45,152 --> 00:41:50,567

reasons, being able to attain freedom

might be the most scariest thing that you

697

00:41:50,567 --> 00:41:56,847

would ever do, and I can understand why,

oh why, you would feel very much inclined

698

00:41:56,957 --> 00:41:59,227

to not have anything to do with it at all.

699

00:42:00,617 --> 00:42:01,567

We got to remember.

700

00:42:02,267 --> 00:42:06,807

Who are we really doing it for, and

as I reflect on even our conversation

701

00:42:06,807 --> 00:42:11,662

today, I often want to challenge

myself on the phrase of "kids."

702

00:42:12,432 --> 00:42:14,752

danielle obviously has three daughters.

703

00:42:15,222 --> 00:42:19,812

Those daughters are super important to

her, as any parent would consider their

704

00:42:19,812 --> 00:42:25,522

kids to be very important as a whole,

but for me, I don't have that luxury.

705

00:42:25,552 --> 00:42:26,992

I don't have any kids.

706

00:42:27,222 --> 00:42:31,042

It's something that I feel like I have

missed out in life, but yet at the same

707

00:42:31,042 --> 00:42:35,612

time, I know that there's always an

opportunity, and I know that at one point

708

00:42:35,612 --> 00:42:40,882

or another, God, or somebody else, will

direct me into a focus that will allow

709

00:42:40,882 --> 00:42:45,292

me to have those kids, but when I look

at the bigger picture of all the things

710

00:42:45,292 --> 00:42:50,267

that we're talking about here today,

maybe we should redefine what kids are.

711

00:42:51,147 --> 00:42:55,377

Kids are not necessarily the

physical beings, the manifestations

712

00:42:55,387 --> 00:42:58,090

of what we create, or are they?

713

00:42:58,910 --> 00:43:00,600

Kids can be something much more.

714

00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,540

It could be what we leave as a legacy.

715

00:43:02,540 --> 00:43:04,170

It could be what we write as a book.

716

00:43:04,330 --> 00:43:08,920

Maybe even something that we sing,

play, even instruments for that matter.

717

00:43:08,930 --> 00:43:12,790

Maybe it's something that we discovered

in science, technology, or some

718

00:43:12,810 --> 00:43:16,920

other mathematical formula that will

allow us to travel to the distant

719

00:43:16,930 --> 00:43:18,900

galaxies that are light years away.

720

00:43:19,710 --> 00:43:23,680

Maybe the kids that we're trying to

develop also means being able to advance

721

00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,810

artificial intelligence, robotics,

technology, the actual things that we use

722

00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:34,140

on this planet Earth to become better, to

become smarter, to have more ingenuity.

723

00:43:35,055 --> 00:43:39,495

All these different things, these kids

that we leave, are lasting legacies and

724

00:43:39,495 --> 00:43:44,665

opportunities for us to really develop a

number of different things, so as I look

725

00:43:44,665 --> 00:43:49,345

at my notes and I look at and reflect

on the conversation Danielle and I had

726

00:43:49,345 --> 00:43:54,475

today, I think that we can leave a lasting

impact, not just on that profitability,

727

00:43:54,665 --> 00:43:59,095

not just on the things that we've been

able to heal from, but also figuring out

728

00:43:59,350 --> 00:44:04,540

what it means to create engagement in new

ways that we had never thought possible.

729

00:44:05,850 --> 00:44:09,770

As I've always advocated on this

show, it's not just about the people

730

00:44:09,770 --> 00:44:11,570

that we surround ourselves with.

731

00:44:11,930 --> 00:44:16,710

It's about who we influence for those

people to surround ourselves with,

732

00:44:17,285 --> 00:44:21,155

and what we're willing to contribute

as part of that bigger whole.

733

00:44:21,835 --> 00:44:25,155

I think that we often miss the mark

when it comes to the busyness of

734

00:44:25,155 --> 00:44:29,585

our life, and saying that it's all

about me, because at the end of the

735

00:44:29,585 --> 00:44:33,335

day, me doesn't always mean you.

736

00:44:34,125 --> 00:44:35,085

Do you get me?

737

00:44:35,525 --> 00:44:38,145

It's not just about the individuality.

738

00:44:38,755 --> 00:44:41,695

It's also about what we're

willing to do, what we're willing

739

00:44:41,695 --> 00:44:44,115

to sacrifice, for our kids.

740

00:44:44,935 --> 00:44:47,770

It's not just who we gave birth to.

741

00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,360

It isn't who we actually raise to

take on the mantle when we pass

742

00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,760

away because of old age, or some

other unfortunate circumstance.

743

00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,120

It means that we have to leave

kids lasting impressions of

744

00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,750

ourselves, regardless of what

fear, doubt, insecurity, and other

745

00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:08,210

sort of influence might do to us.

746

00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:13,475

It's about really letting reality sink

in, once and for all, that we're all

747

00:45:13,475 --> 00:45:19,325

in this together, and that one setback

lets all of us, and allows all of

748

00:45:19,325 --> 00:45:21,445

us, to have those setbacks as well.

749

00:45:22,445 --> 00:45:25,625

We can be working on our own

challenges together, but that

750

00:45:25,625 --> 00:45:27,655

means that we also have to improve.

751

00:45:28,255 --> 00:45:32,325

Being focused and being dialed in

doesn't mean that you're a bad person.

752

00:45:32,325 --> 00:45:36,775

It means that you need that time, at that

instantaneous moment, to become better,

753

00:45:37,205 --> 00:45:42,310

but serving that overall population, being

able to protect ourselves, means that

754

00:45:42,310 --> 00:45:47,460

we also have to have a shared community,

so today, I think what we learned from

755

00:45:47,460 --> 00:45:52,610

this conversation isn't just about what

we want to achieve, but what we can all

756

00:45:52,610 --> 00:45:58,440

achieve if we're just willing to rewire

our brain and use the "kid methodology"

757

00:45:58,725 --> 00:46:02,445

a little bit differently than we might

have traditionally done in the past.

758

00:46:03,695 --> 00:46:09,065

That selfishness, that morbid curiosity of

ourselves to actually discover something,

759

00:46:09,435 --> 00:46:13,245

might not just be for ourselves, and

I think that in the practice that our

760

00:46:13,245 --> 00:46:18,665

guest has served in, I can understand

why she wants to continuously do better.

761

00:46:19,275 --> 00:46:20,855

It's why I want to do better.

762

00:46:21,490 --> 00:46:23,250

It isn't just because of my legacy.

763

00:46:23,250 --> 00:46:26,870

It isn't because I want some sort

of impression made on somebody else

764

00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:29,460

that's positive, because let's face it.

765

00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:31,540

I can get that anywhere in my life.

766

00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:35,360

I could even pay for that positivity

from somebody that's willing to be a

767

00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:40,480

cheerleader, rooting me on, working for

my business, but I really encourage you.

768

00:46:41,165 --> 00:46:46,125

Do you really want to have kids that are

selfish, self centered, and not thinking

769

00:46:46,125 --> 00:46:50,975

of everybody else, or would you rather

have kids that leave a lasting legacy,

770

00:46:51,295 --> 00:46:56,295

take care of others, especially even you

for that matter, and allow other people

771

00:46:56,295 --> 00:46:58,565

to see their true worth, their true value?

772

00:46:59,330 --> 00:47:03,360

Regardless of whatever way that you

want to look at it, being a proud parent

773

00:47:03,530 --> 00:47:06,950

doesn't always mean that you have to

look at just what's on the surface.

774

00:47:07,230 --> 00:47:11,610

You can look at what's underneath that

surface, what really comprises who

775

00:47:11,610 --> 00:47:16,090

they are and what they've been able to

do, all because of your influence to

776

00:47:16,090 --> 00:47:20,840

become better versions of themselves,

so I hope that as you find that

777

00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,300

freedom, you find that adventure that

you want to be on, be like our guest.

778

00:47:25,370 --> 00:47:27,510

Be like those kids that are out there.

779

00:47:28,145 --> 00:47:33,385

Make a profound impact, doing what you're

doing for all the right reasons, and I

780

00:47:33,405 --> 00:47:38,180

will say to you that not only are you

leaving that lasting legacy, but that

781

00:47:38,180 --> 00:47:42,360

is something that your kids, regardless

of which way you want to look at them,

782

00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:47,970

will be able to continue to push forward

for the rest of their lives, whether

783

00:47:47,970 --> 00:47:50,320

they're physical manifestations or not.

784

00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,090

Thanks for listening to episode

number 190 of Speaking From the

785

00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:59,960

Heart, and I look forward to

hearing from your heart very soon.

786

00:48:00,556 --> 00:48:01,386

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787

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