Shownotes
Caroline answers the question directly — success to her is making enough to support herself and live with meaning. Then Claudia drops something real: the novelty of material things wears off fast, and the moment she stopped wanting something it showed up in her driveway. From there the conversation shifts into death doula work, what the process actually looks like, and something most people don't know — the five stages of grief were never meant for the people left behind. They were written for the dying. And somewhere along the way we lost the whole ceremonial ritual of death that used to hold communities together.
Takeaways:
- Success defined by someone else's measuring stick will never feel fulfilling when you reach it
- Detachment is not giving up — it's releasing the grip long enough for things to actually arrive
- A death doula helps set the space, honor the wishes, and support the family through the process
- The five stages of grief were written for people who are dying — not for those left behind
- We have lost the ceremonial ritual around death as a culture and grief has suffered for it
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