In this empowering episode of Visibility Strategies for Women Entrepreneurs, host Tori Barker sits down with business coach and consultant Tracey Sundkvist to talk about the mindset traps that keep so many women from showing up fully in their businesses.
If you’ve ever felt stuck, invisible, or unsure how to charge what you're really worth, this conversation will help you shift out of that headspace. Tracey breaks down common visibility blockers like burnout, undercharging, isolation, and fear, and shares practical, values-aligned strategies to help you move forward with more confidence.
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Whether you're transitioning out of corporate or building a purpose-driven brand, this episode will help you reconnect with your value and take up space in a way that feels right for you.
Welcome to the Visibility Strategies for Women Entrepreneurs
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:Podcast where we empower female business
owners to step boldly into the spotlight
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:and claim the recognition they deserve.
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:I'm your host, Tori Barker.
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:I'm passionate about helping women
like you transform your visibility
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:into tangible business success.
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:Each week on this show, we'll dive deep
into game changing strategies, share
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:inspiring success stories from women.
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:Who've mastered their visibility and
offer practical, actionable advice
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:you can implement immediately.
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:Whether you're just starting your
entrepreneurial journey, pivoting
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:your business model, or ready to
elevate your existing presence to new
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:heights, you'll discover effective
approaches to create exciting
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:opportunities and expand your reach.
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:So let's harness the power
of strategic visibility and
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:grow your business together.
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:Welcome to the show.
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:Today's guest is Tracey Sundkvist, a
business consultant and coach who helps
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:entrepreneurs get out of their own way
so they can build businesses that are not
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:only profitable, but deeply meaningful.
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:In this episode, we're digging
into mindset blocks that often
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:hold women entrepreneurs back
from truly being visible.
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:We talk about how to become the
best version of yourself, not just
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:for your own growth, but to show
about powerfully in your business.
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:I.
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:Tracey shares her insights
on the five cardinal sins for
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:entrepreneurship and how they quietly
sabotaged visibility and momentum.
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:If you've been feeling stuck,
invisible, or unsure of your next
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:move, Tracey's practical strategies
and powerful mindset shifts will
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:give you the clear step forward.
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:Let's dive in.
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:Tracey, thank you so much for
joining me on the show today.
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:How are you?
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:Tracey Sundkvist: I am living the dream.
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:Tori, how about you?
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:Tori Barker: I'm doing great.
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:So I'm excited to have you on the show
today to tell us a little bit about
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:what you do, how you help entrepreneurs,
and how we can talk about visibility.
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:So tell us a little bit
about, uh, what you do.
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:Tracey Sundkvist: Absolutely.
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:Uh, I've, so for the past, say two
decades, I've really been focused on
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:identifying talent, developing talent,
and then really shifting into the
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:entrepreneurial landscape so that I can
help business owners grow their business.
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:And one of the.
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:Biggest things that I've learned
is that if you really want to grow,
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:it's always going to start with you.
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:It's going to start with the thinking,
the mindset, and the skills that
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:you take into your business that's
either going to promote your,
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:your growth or get in the way.
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:So as much as we're going to be focusing
on the business itself to look at the
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:systems and the processes that you have
in place, what we're going to do that
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:is more powerful is to make sure that
you are not getting in your own way.
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:Tori Barker: Yeah, absolutely.
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:So let's talk about, um, so
mindsets, mind, mindset blocks.
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:Um, what are some of the most
common mindset blocks that keep
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:women entrepreneurs specifically
from putting themselves out there,
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:and how do they overcome it?
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:Tracey Sundkvist: Oh, it was such
a wonderful question because every,
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:every person comes with a unique
set of challenges depending on kind
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:of what they bring to the party we,
we brought up in different ways.
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:We have different attachment styles,
and depending on that, that can
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:really impact on how you approach
creating value in the business.
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:Probably the two biggest ones that I
see, the first is really the pressure of.
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:Performing as a woman.
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:So, you know, as soon as you're
a female, uh, it's, it's just
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:unconscious that dealing with, um,
you know, uh, male stakeholders, they
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:don't have as high expectations as
they would in dealing with a man.
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:So, so the thing is, how do you.
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:Keep your ego intact and show up as this,
you know, this confident person who knows
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:what they're doing without kind of being
bashed because of that, uh, I wanna say
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:inequality, but that's probably too.
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:Too harsh.
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:The, the second thing I, it
probably relates to that as well,
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:is charging what you're worth.
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:So creating the value and then
being able to back it up and
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:say, I'm worth every cent.
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:Like, I'm the most impor, I'm the
most expensive in my industry.
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:Let me tell you about the results I get.
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:Right.
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:It's, it's, it's showing up in that way.
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:And we need to leave the
nurturing, caring, you know, um,
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:family boulder, um, side of us.
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:Parked a little bit so that we can show up
more assertive in, in the business world.
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:Tori Barker: Yeah, and I think to
that point, you know, especially women
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:entrepreneurs just starting out or
just starting an entrepreneurial space,
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:like many women come from corporate
and then they have years and decades of
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:experience and knowledge and expertise,
and then they start in entrepreneurship.
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:They don't, it's a different
beast, if you will.
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:And so, you know, knowing their
value, uh, charging their value.
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:And showing up with confidence
are the biggest things that
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:I think are our roadblocks.
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:Like you said, um, because it's uncharted
territory or we want to, you know,
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:just, just start, get it started, right?
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:Like, we just need the business or those
types of things that we have in our
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:mind that we think, oh, well, I'll, I'll
charge more when I get, you know, further
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:along in my entrepreneurial journey.
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:But it's like, heck no,
start out big, right?
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:You have this sage, this experience, and
it applies like straight across the board.
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:Tracey Sundkvist: Yeah, there's such a
big learning curve for women who leave
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:the corporate space and start their
own business, and you absolutely nailed
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:it in that it's a different beast.
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:You can be, you can be exceptional in the
marketing world or the finance world, or
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:you know, have those skills and expertise,
but when it comes to running a business,
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:there are a whole lot of elements that
you need to add to your expertise.
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:So that learning curve is.
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:Very, very steep for people who've
specialized on a specific skillset.
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:If anything, what I would say to
arm yourself against that is embrace
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:the learning and get comfortable
being very uncomfortable, right?
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:We need to do things even though
it hurts like cake, because that's
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:the way you're going to learn.
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:It's just put yourself in there, you know?
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:Tori Barker: Yeah.
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:Well, and, and kind of along the same
lines, one of the questions I wanted
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:to, to ask you about is how we can
become the best versions of ourself
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:to lean into that growth and success.
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:What are the things that you,
you coach on help, uh, with, or
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:talk or speak to on that topic?
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:Tracey Sundkvist: Yep.
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:I, I love the coaching space because
if a client comes into me and they're
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:focused on left, then I know as a
coach I need to start introducing.
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:Right.
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:If they come to me and they focusing
on up as a coach, I know I need to, you
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:know, create a little bit more balance and
focus on, you know, the, the, the bottom.
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:So coaching is about.
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:Um, kind of closing gaps.
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:If you are thinking one way, all that
coaching does is it introduces different
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:perspectives and ways of thinking
that allow you a, a bigger picture
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:of what you're doing and impact that.
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:That you're having with your approach?
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:Yeah.
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:Everyone is gonna come with
their own sets of, um, strengths
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:and own sets of weaknesses.
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:And really the coach's job is
just to be the sounding board.
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:So if you come and you say, well,
um, I'm a wonderful leader, but
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:none of my team members wanna stick
around, then it's the coach's role
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:to say, okay, so, so, you know.
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:Tell me what evidence
is supporting a leader?
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:What do you think a leader is?
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:What do you think the consequences are?
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:If you, you suck at leader, you know,
it's about helping them understand
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:and how this is going to connect to
becoming the best version of yourself.
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:You can only become the best version of
yourself if you are open to some ideas
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:that are going to probably conflict.
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:Uh, pretty radically with, you know,
the way you feel the, the world works.
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:So if you are open to, um, to, uh,
what is it, um, a accommodate or
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:assimilate these, uh, opposing views,
you are going to accelerate that
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:best version of yourself, right?
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:Yeah.
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:As long as you stay curious and
as long as you learn, you're
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:gonna shortcut that journey.
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:Tori Barker: Yeah.
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:And one of the things I know for,
for women specifically is we have a
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:hard time, um, or we don't, I guess
I would say we have a hard time
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:compartmentalizing personal life and
business life, and there's conversations
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:that a lot of people have about keeping
things separate or blending them.
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:Right.
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:And I, my perspective, I think that.
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:You should definitely blend them, right?
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:So as an entrepreneur, because your
personal life affects your business and
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:your business affects your personal life.
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:So I know that you blend, um,
personal development with business
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:coaching, and I'm assuming some
personal side of things as well.
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:So why is self-awareness so essential
in being visible and credible, uh,
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:Tracey Sundkvist: So much of this depends
on what you're bringing to the table.
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:I mean, if you are, if you are starting
out and you starting from scratch and
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:you need to very quickly get to the
point where you're making money, I.
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:Because your family depends on you.
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:I, I can't very well go out and say,
well, let's look at making sure that you
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:are balanced, that you're balancing your
work and, and, and your, um, home life.
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:Because the ultimate goal is
to provide for your family.
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:And that means in the beginning,
you're going to be working long hours.
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:Now, are you going to be able to.
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:Pay the price that it's going to cost
you to achieve the results that you
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:want, which, you know, are gonna give
you those long-term, you know, achieve
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:your long-term goals at the same time.
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:I mean, you know, the, the
opposite is true as well.
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:If, if somebody, um, comes to
me and they say, well, they
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:A lot of money.
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:They wanna make very healthy profits, but
they only wanna work three days a week.
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:And you kind of need to say, well,
listen, there's, there's a little bit
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:of conflict here because for you to
succeed in business, that the business
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:needs a lot of time, attention, and.
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:Effort and energy.
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:Now, I'm not gonna say go and be
a real estate in investor and, you
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:know, learn how to make passive income
because that's not a wheelhouse.
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:My wheel, uh, house is how
to run a healthy business.
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:In the beginning.
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:It's more than likely that you have
to put more effort in than less.
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:But then you have the opposite as
well, where, where women are literally
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:working like 60, 65 hours and the, the
business might be super successful,
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:but they're burning out and they're
just not recharging what they need
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:to sustain that level of activity.
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:And it's having, you know,
very serious, negative.
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:Impact on home life, on their health.
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:So it, it really, it boils down to
instead of, instead of saying, well,
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:this is kind of what we're all aiming
for, it's what is the long-term goal?
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:What is the short-term payoff?
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:And how can we make sure that we're
able to achieve, you know, what it,
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:what it is that you need to achieve.
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:Tori Barker: And I think
also, um, there's seasons too.
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:So like you said, I think there's
seasons of like, when you're starting
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:out, you have to put more attention into
your business and the growth of your
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:business, but you can't neglect yourself.
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:Right?
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:But there's still this balance
that you have to adjust over time
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:and throughout these seasons.
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:Of life and business growth and
family and all that stuff that,
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:you know, you have to be aware of.
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:So yes, I may put a little bit more
time and focus on the business, you
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:know, at the beginning, but then I
know I'm gonna get to a point where I
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:can balance it out a little bit more.
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:And then maybe my family needs me
and I spent, but more time and my
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:family, but my business is solid, so
I'm sure you see a lot of that too.
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:Tracey Sundkvist: It's,
that's one of the key.
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:Um, ways in which we're going to measure
that any intervention is successful is
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:that the individual's business can run
without them for a week, for two weeks
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:because there are checks and balances.
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:There's a standard operating procedures,
there's process for everyone.
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:Everyone knows what's expected of them.
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:And they all want to see
the success of the business.
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:So even though you might start
out saying, this is gonna
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:take time, effort, and energy.
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:There's blood, there's
sweat, there's tears.
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:It is working toward that as an outcome.
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:Tori Barker: Yeah.
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:Now as.
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:Um, I wanna talk a little bit about
the mind and body connection too.
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:Because I know that, you know, you, you
mentioned it briefly about burnout, right?
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:So how can we avoid burnout while
we're in that season of growth and
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:grind or whatever that might be?
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:Tracey Sundkvist: Yeah.
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:Now I think burnout, burnout is
a consequence or is very closely
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:I kind of look at it in a different
way because if what you are
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:doing doesn't interest you, it's
repetitive, someone else should do it.
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:You are not seeing the value of what
you're doing, and it's that same story
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:that you're living every single day.
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:If, if what you're doing is
not important to you, you're
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:And this is why it's so important
when you go into business, it's about
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:understanding why is this important to me?
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:What, what difference it.
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:Do I want to make in this
business world that is meaningful?
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:Like it means something
to me as a human being.
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:Now, in the beginning,
it can be about money.
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:There's nothing wrong with you going
into business saying, well, I need
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:this business to support my lifestyle.
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:Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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:The business, um, the, the, what
a business needs from you is
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:What you want in return for
doing business, how are you
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you're going to get that return?
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:Because it's a value exchange, right?
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:I, I create value and I'm
compensated for that value.
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:So the closer you can get to aligning
the value in the business with your
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:personal values, with personal meaning,
the less likely you you are to burn out.
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:I mean, once someone is.
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:Burned out, you know, rekindling
that enthusiasm for life, for work,
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:for family, for just being alive.
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:It's almost like a complete
reprogramming that needs to happen
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:because it's, um, it's terrible.
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:It really creeps in over a
very long period of time.
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:And that, that, um, becomes
almost like learned behavior.
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:So that almost becomes your default.
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:It's not that you stay in
this outside terrible way of
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:living, it becomes part of you.
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:And to, to overcome that, you need
to, um, you really need to take
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:stock and say, well, I need to get
things that are meaningful back.
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:You know, I need to get my
feet back on the ground.
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:I need to get my head in the game.
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:I need to understand who I am,
what I want, and make changes.
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:Tori Barker: Absolutely.
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:You know, uh, it's funny, I was
thinking about a conversation I
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was talking about work, and, uh, he
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:said, do you, do you enjoy your work?
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:And he's like, yeah, you get
to do some exciting things.
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:You get to travel and you get to
talk to different people and you
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:get to, you know, be creative.
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sure that I do something like that.
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:To know that your, your children
see that you are passionate about
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:something that you do, because
that's all that I can hope for them.
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:And so it's this like the same thing,
like you, you're gonna avoid burnout.
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:I mean, there's gonna be, you know,
challenging times, but you're gonna
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:avoid burnout if you're passionate
and you have, you know, something that
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:Tracey Sundkvist: You know, it's so
important when you bring, um, when
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:you start introducing kids, right?
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:And I, I say kids, but these
can be like older kids as well.
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:Being the role model to
say that work isn't, isn't.
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:That evil place where you go that
keeps your paycheck work is actually
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:a really fun and exciting way for you
to express your indivi individuality,
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:for you to hone and strengthen
skills that are unique in the space.
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:It's about, uh, learning how to solve.
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:Problems and pushing yourself
beyond your, your boundaries and
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:your limits and learning just
exactly what you're capable of.
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:How you look at work determines how
you're going to approach this whole thing.
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:If you really just think, I have
to work because I need to pay my
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:bills, I can guarantee you are
not going to enjoy what you do.
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:Mindset matters.
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:Tori Barker: Yes.
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:So, um, I wanna ask you another
question that, you know, I think you.
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:You potentially answer this often, but I
wanna tie it back to visibility because,
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:um, I want to know like, what are five
cardinal sins for entrepreneurs and how
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:How those sense sabotage,
visibility and growth.
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:Tracey Sundkvist: Wonderful.
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:So there, there are the very
typical mistakes that entrepreneurs
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:Uh, one of, one of the first things is
they don't actually align their business
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:vision with, with their own goals.
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:So they, they kind of go
into it just understanding
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:Make this work so that I can pay
myself and I can make enough to live.
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:But without knowing what you're
aiming for, it's very, very difficult
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:So super, super important to have
a vision, and I mean, that vision
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:If the vision doesn't excite
you, it means that you are.
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:You're doing it wrong, because that's
the whole point is to say, getting
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:up, damn, I'm one, I'm one day closer
to, you know, making this come true.
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:Um, I've already mentioned the tracking.
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:Now when it comes to business
owners, they are notoriously bad
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:Instead of running your business from your
bank account, it's, it's understanding
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:this is how much is coming in, this is how
much is keep, you know, keeps going out.
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:This is the margin that is healthy
for the space that I'm playing
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:in, and I need to make sure that
I maintain or improve on this.
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doing something about it.
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:Now, connecting this to visibility,
um, I think it's so important for
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:business owners to understand.
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:They're, uh, how are they going
to get in front of the people
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:Are they going to do Facebook advertising,
Google advertising, referrals,
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magazines, you know, um, hand up
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:It's all about understanding what are
the different ways that people are going
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:to get to know about me so that I can
have enough people in my pipeline and
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so that I can hit my, my revenue
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is that working for me?
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:So they might be running Facebook
ads, but they have no idea what
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:their return on ad spend is.
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:They might be running Facebook ads,
but they have no idea how to make sure
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going to support getting those people
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:All of this means you need to
be able to look at numbers and
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to tell you the truth.
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:So learning the language of numbers
is going to be your best friend
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lot of, um, learning the hard way.
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:We, we don't want to learn the hard way.
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:Um, so if we just move along with
the, the other cardinal sense, uh,
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:You are making all of the calls,
you make all of the decisions.
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creating something from nothing.
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you create something that is,
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:Or the right of actual reality and
the way the world works, but because
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there's no one to say, but wait a
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:second, you know, what if it, it's
very easy to go off track and not even
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:So having a support networks, um,
being able to have a mentor and I.
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:It's so, have a mentor, but I mean, it,
it doesn't need to be a difficult thing.
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:It's so easy for you to identify
people even on LinkedIn, right?
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:If you, if you see, well,
who else is in this industry?
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:Who else is doing very well in
terms of how visible are they?
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:Um, how do people talk about
them in, in the industry?
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:Reach out and say, well,
listen, I, I, I new at this.
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:I could really use someone to
walk me through the tough stuff.
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:Would you mind showing up?
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um, what a big ego boost that is?
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:Or people, right?
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:Generally, people want to help
other business owners have no
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:problem helping, helping people who
also want to achieve success, so.
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:Stop that ego thing, right?
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:The, the ego has no place
in, in growing a business.
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:You need to keep that,
um, in check and then.
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:I mean, we've spoken a little bit
about this, but uh, I have to bring
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:it in, in that you, you can't be
serious as a heart attack all the time.
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:Now I'm fully, for in the beginning
you have to work very long hours and
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:growing a business is very serious.
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put you in a bad mood and kind of ruin.
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:If it's gonna give you a kind of
a bad taste in your mouth, you're
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with anybody, then it's time to
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and understand this doesn't stop.
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going to, to have to, I don't know, have
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how do I need to shift this so that.
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business doesn't depress me.
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become another job, or the way that I
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I think sometimes when we are emotionally
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just absolutely ridiculous or problems
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that this, this issue keeps happening.
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kid's cartoon, how could this be the
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can start to get some perspective?
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heart attack all the time, right?
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more out of your business if you can.
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:Tori Barker: Thank you for
some of the part times.
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:Tracey Sundkvist: Science supports it.
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think as creatively, you don't innovate.
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as effective as a drunk person, so making
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:Tori Barker: Yeah.
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up with one final question.
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invisible in their business right now,
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take to start showing up more powerfully?
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with being invisible is that the
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two, but I think before you can show up
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if I have an awareness that this is
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invisible, what is the opposite of that?
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me that I am visible?
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quantifiable criteria, not just,
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can you, how can you qualify that?
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gonna feel like, yes, I was great.
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feel like, no, that that sucked.
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not visible, ask yourself, what do
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more people to know about me?
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about me, how am I getting out
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to add to that so that more people
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know about me, is the message
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improve my messaging?
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more places, or do I need to start
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communicating in these places so
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to be very careful that you're not
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just, I'm just, I'm, I'm not worthy.
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self-esteem that I feel like I
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what makes me very powerful and
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:Tori Barker: That's fantastic.
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:So how could people get in touch with
you if they wanna learn more about
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can people reach out?
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:Tracey Sundkvist: So I have a
link for you that is going to take
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a 30 minute, uh, chaos to clarity
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think of the mind as kind of this
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help you detangle what's going on for you.
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need a little bit of perspective or
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support that, um, BrandLab Media has and
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gives you all of the elements that you
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strategy to know what it is that you need
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ads that are going to compel your best.
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respond and then to understand the, the
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what problems you should be solving at
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can, um, build the skills that you need
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:Tori Barker: Perfect.
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in the description below so you
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uh, LinkedIn is a good platform
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:Tracey Sundkvist: Absolutely.
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surname is so absolutely bizarre
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:Tori Barker: Love that.
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:Well, Tracey, thank you again
so much for being a guest.
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share your story and talk to you today.
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:Tracey Sundkvist: Thanks
so much for having me.