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Ep7: Creating Your Own Real-World Experience
Episode 72nd September 2023 • The Hire Drive • Marc David
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Introduction

  • Reflection on a recent episode and a LinkedIn quote about the importance of hands-on experience.
  • The universal applicability of the quote: "Never underestimate the importance of hands-on experience when it comes to securing your dream job."

The Power of Certifications and Classes

  • The value of studying for certifications and taking classes in your desired field.
  • Benefits include understanding industry jargon and verbiage.
  • The importance of creating projects during study to simulate real-world experiences.

Gaining Hands-On Experience

  • Personal anecdote: Starting a cybersecurity business and offering free services.
  • The significance of creating content like forums, newsletters, and podcasts relevant to the area of study.

Real-World Experience vs. Book Knowledge

  • The difference between reading a book and applying its knowledge.
  • How real-world experiences create talking points for interviews and resumes.
  • The challenge of bridging the experience gap, especially when making a lateral transfer in industries.

Creating Your Own Path

  • Personal journey: Transitioning from IT architecture to cybersecurity.
  • The combination of studying and real-world application.
  • The metaphor of creating your own path: Waiting for someone to pave the way vs. taking initiative and building it yourself.

Conclusion

  • The importance of proactivity in gaining experience.
  • Encouragement to create your own real-world experiences and not rely on others.
  • The quickest way to bridge the experience gap is to take charge and create opportunities for yourself.

Takeaway:

Remember, when it comes to bridging the experience gap, the power lies within you to create, innovate, and pave your own path to success.

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I want to take a second to add to the Bridging the Experience Gap

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podcast that I recently did because I saw something interesting on LinkedIn.

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There's a quote and it says, never underestimate the

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importance of hands on experience.

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When it comes to securing your dream job in cybersecurity and you could change

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cybersecurity to whatever you wanted.

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Got a lot of comments, a lot of reposts and a lot of likes.

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It wasn't mine, it was somebody else's.

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But it was interesting because my comment was when I was studying

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for those certifications, so in the previous podcast, and you've

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heard on the hire drive, one of the things I encourage you to do is.

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Study for some type of a certification or take classes in the area that

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you're interested in going into.

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Because it not only helps you with the jargon and the, and the verbiage,

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but when you're studying for those certifications, what you can do is create

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projects to create those real world experiences for yourself and your clients.

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So one of the things is, Our question somebody asked is, what are you

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doing to gain hands-on experience?

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And I said, well, I'm doing, when I was doing cybersecurity stuff,

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a, I created my own business.

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Doesn't matter if I have any clients.

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I created my own business and I gave free work to organizations, family, friends,

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creating content and forums, newsletters, podcasts, very relevant to the area study.

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When you're doing that, you are creating a real world experience.

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So it goes beyond, Hey, I got all these certifications.

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Hey, I'm taking all these classes.

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Hey, by the way, I also did a onsite vulnerability assessment,

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penetration testing or physical security analysis for a law firm,

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or I've created, I create, you know, podcasts based on cybersecurity and I.

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Talk to industry leaders and things like that, that's real world

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experience because companies are gonna ask you, what have you done?

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Or tell me about your latest, whatever.

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And if you've created your own business and you've got that in LinkedIn and

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you've got that in your resume, you can, those are talking points now, right?

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So it doesn't matter what your area of industry, if you've

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helped friends find jobs.

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And you've coordinated or you've updated their LinkedIn profiles for

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them and you've helped them to start posting, being more active on LinkedIn,

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getting out there, uh, teaching them how to use AI to update their

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resumes and to submit it to companies.

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That's talent acquisition.

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You're doing what recruiters are doing, right?

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You're scanning, you're looking at people, you're helping them, you're

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trying to place people in different jobs.

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You're doing it for your own business and you might be doing

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it for just family and friends, but that is real world experience.

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If I'm just reading a book, that's just me reading a book, that's me learning.

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That's me taking certification tests.

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That's me demonstrating that I understand the material, but if I take something from

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that book or those lessons, or the classes or YouTube or whatever, I start to do it.

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That creates real world experiences, that creates a bullet point,

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that creates a talking point.

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And that's something that you absolutely can and should use in

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an interview session because it is very difficult to bridge the gap.

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And I think I see a lot of people saying, Hey, I'm in this particular area, and.

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I would like to do similar work, but I wanna go into a

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slightly different industry.

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So you wanna do a lateral transfer?

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In my own experiences, I've had tons of experience with it and

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architecture, all those type of things.

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Windows, active directory, you name it, right?

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But I wanted to bridge that gap into cybersecurity.

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I had to look back to what was I currently doing that made sense to bridge that?

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Should I start my own business?

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And then start to do, like I said, this free work and pro bono and

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start to do things so that I could get hands-on experience to do that.

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Those created talking points, studying that helped.

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And so it was a combination of studying and actually doing that real world.

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So I think in this particular episode, we'll just keep it short here.

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You can bridge that gap, and you can do it simply by creating your

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own real world experiences, right?

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So you're trying to get to something else.

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You're trying to do something else.

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You're trying to transition into another job, another field, another area.

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How do you get real world experience?

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You create it, you pave the path.

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There's two ways.

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I'm looking at a field.

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I can wait for someone to come along with a mower or a crew or a team and

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build me a path, and I can walk to the other side and that that would be akin

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to waiting for a manager, waiting for a company to give you a helping hand to

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just give you that start, give you that one chance that you really need to see

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beyond that, Hey, I know this person could do it, but I'm gonna help 'em out here.

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That can happen, or, You can get a little weed whacker or a shovel, and

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you can knock down those weeds, right?

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You can mow that lawn.

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You can do whatever it is that you're doing and build your own

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path to get to the other side.

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At the end of the day, when you're on the other side, it was real world experience.

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Either way, you do it, but you're gonna have to start creating that

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for yourself if you wanna move on.

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You don't want to rely on others to do that for you.

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So when you're trying to bridge that gap, think about what it is in your day, what

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it is in your life that you can do, that you can learn from a course or a class

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or anything to create some real world experience and not rely on something

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or somebody else to do it for you.

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And that is the quickest way to bridge the gap.

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