I sit down with with my 14-year-old cousin Mia — a high-school freshman, wrestler, and alto sax player — to talk about what it’s like to grow up in 2025. We talk social media, family, school, friendship and Phantom of the Opera, and why adults don’t always get what it’s like to be a teen today.

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Step right up, it's the show you adore It's onefjef, episode 24 Deep chats, big laughs,

and we're glad you're here Cause cousin Mia's in the spotlight this year She's a freshman

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star with the sacks in hand On the wrestling match she takes a stand Just don't you loud

or she'll give you a glare

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But Phantom of the Opera, she'll take you there.

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He's got Zany Vox, there to spare.

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It's onefjef, where the convo goes there.

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So ring that bell and open the door.

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It's onefjef, episode 24.

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This is episode 24 of onefjef.

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The number 24 has always carried a sense of completeness.

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Time itself revolves around it.

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24 hours in a day.

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A system that began with the Egyptians dividing daylight and darkness into two sets of 12.

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In numerology, its digits add to six.

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A number ruled by Venus and tied to love, harmony and domestic balance.

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That makes 24 the caretaker number.

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Dependable, protective and devoted to maintaining connection and stability.

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cousins and I were really close when we were growing up.

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We all lived in the Cleveland area and we were all pretty close in age.

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So we'd celebrate all our birthdays and holidays together.

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We'd go on vacations together.

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We'd have these amazing sleepovers at our grandmother's house.

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It was pretty magical, to be honest.

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And I remember growing up and finding out that most people didn't have such a close

relationship with their cousins.

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And I realized that it was special.

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this connection we'd forged as kids.

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Now we're all in our 40s and 50s, and we've dispersed to different parts of the country.

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And some of us have husbands and wives and kids and jobs, and it's not as easy to see each

other and stay in touch.

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But the connection I feel and the love I have for this group of people is still there.

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It'll always be there.

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When we were in our 20s and early 30s, my cousin started a contest, a betting pool, if you

will.

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about who would be the first of us to reproduce.

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It was funny at the time, and it still is funny, frankly, because none of us seemed

anywhere close to having kids, in spite of the fact that we were all in the relative age

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range of when people start to reproduce, and also because we were betting on this.

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I'm not sure our parents found it quite as funny as we did, but that was often the case.

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One Christmas, we took an empty vodka bottle.

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and filled it with water and then closed it back up and wrapped it up as a gift for my

cousin Sarah, who was I think 18 at the time, maybe 17.

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And we gave it to her in front of everybody and she opened it up.

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We told her beforehand and she opened it up and she says, oh boy, I love vodka.

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And she just starts chugging it in front of everybody.

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And the look on our parents' faces.

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I mean it was...

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I'll never forget the look.

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I'll never forget it.

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Anyway, the first cousin baby was born in June of 2010 to my cousin Mike.

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My sister had hers in August of that year and then my cousin Brian had his first a year

later in 2011.

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Our youngest cousin Rachel won the pool, which was about a thousand bucks, I think.

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Which brings me to my guest today...

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who is my cousin Brian's firstborn child, Mia, who is now 14 years old and a freshman in

high school, which is wild.

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Mia was actually one of the first people that I booked for this podcast.

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I was at a minor league baseball game with her and her family, and I was telling her about

this podcast I was planning to start.

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And she was like, can I come on?

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Can I come on?

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And I was like, of course.

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And so last Saturday,

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We made it happen.

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I really enjoy talking to young people.

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Maybe I'm just trying to maintain my relevance in this increasingly confusing world of

ours, but I enjoy hearing their perspective about all the things.

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So this conversation with Mia is no exception, and I hope you'll enjoy listening to it as

much as I enjoyed having it.

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Thank you for listening.

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Thank you for being here.

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Here is my first cousin.

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once removed.

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Mia.

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Do you remember when we first met?

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I not tell you.

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No, no do I ah I Think you were drooling a lot at that age you were a big drool Well, it's

all right.

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You were very baby.

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You and Matt both drooled.

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I don't know which one was the bigger drool Yeah, well, we'll find out I'll ask your

parents um So tell me about tell me about Mia

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Okay, sure.

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I'm 14.

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I'll be 15 next year.

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I like that's kind of a no-brainer.

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Yeah.

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Well, I'm in high school.

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I am a freshman.

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Let me see.

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Right now it's wrestling season, so that's like the sport I'm in.

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Yeah, I have a nice friend group.

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I have nice friends.

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I hang out with them when I'm not doing a sport or homework really.

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support to you playing.

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Well, right now I'm in wrestling season, so I'm wrestling.

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that's right.

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And in the fall I did golf.

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And these are all new sports to like I've never played them before.

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Right.

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But it's interesting, it's new.

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And it's mainly it's like the people that I do it for.

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Yeah.

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But it's also interesting to try something new and also meet new people.

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Sure, sure.

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Do you like wrestling?

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I yeah, we'll see if I do it next year but it's fun this year and I'm kind of stuck with

it so I'm gonna try it.

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uh Wrestling, I never would have thought of wrestling.

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I never really wanted to wrestle when I was a kid.

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You know, me neither, but then my best friend's older sister comes up to me and she's

asked me about it and she talked to me about it for a while and so did my friend.

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ah And then I convinced my other best friend to join.

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So me, my two best friends did it with one of their older siblings.

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Right, right.

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So there was a first person who wanted to do it.

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Yeah.

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And that person got everybody else wanting to do it as well.

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Do you feel like you're good at it?

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How many matches have you had?

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Three, and how have you done?

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All right.

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You're giving me a blank stare right there, Right, we'll avoid that one.

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And the golf thing hasn't started yet.

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That wasn't, how'd that go?

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Also not bad, but I was like learning, you know?

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But that was fun.

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I got to drive a Golf.

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Right and your dad likes to golf too, so that's fun.

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Yeah Right, right, right.

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Probably not a good idea He's not a big wrestler either too.

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So I don't think

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He said he did.

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Did he really?

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Yes.

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One I asked him one day he was like, yeah, I did.

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I was good.

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And I had no idea.

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I was very surprised.

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Huh, I had no idea either.

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I can't really picture your dad wrestling, but...

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Me neither.

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No.

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I guess you knew.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So what's it like being a teenager in 2025?

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It's pretty cool, you know?

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It's also interesting because we have the internet and phones and that kind of thing.

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So it's interesting to see other people and you know, like the same.

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yeah.

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How do you feel about the social media?

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I enjoy it.

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I don't like post anything.

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Okay.

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But like I it's interesting to like see other stuff and like like TikTok and Instagram.

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TikTok.

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Yeah, that's the one that's super addictive.

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That's like, yeah.

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Yeah, that's the one that I can't have on my phone because it's too much.

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Although I did start a TikTok account for this podcast and I'm not sure what to do with

it.

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I feel like I should do dancing or something, but that was some dance numbers.

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no, we'll find Matt.

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He likes the choreo- choreography.

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Right, and then they'd go to the podcast though, they'd see you and Matt dancing and maybe

me as well.

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uh But then they'd go to the podcast and they'd be like, this is nothing like what I saw

on TikTok.

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But it's just pulling them in, that's all you really want.

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So once you've got them.

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You got him hooked.

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I feel like the dancing, that's really neat.

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well we'll talk to Matt about that.

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See if he can do some choreography for us.

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I didn't realize your brother was also a choreographer.

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Is he really?

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I didn't know that.

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mean, according to himself.

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Of course, of course.

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But you're vouching for him here.

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I mean, I kind of have to.

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He's gonna listen to this and be like I am a good choreographer.

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I heard you Mia.

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Yeah Do you feel that social media is like ah I mean there's bad things about it, right?

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Right and how is that in high school?

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Like I can't imagine I didn't have we'd have phones of course when I was in high school or

anything So I can't imagine this house how like social life works when you have all the

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social media all the time

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It is interesting and I think for me, I do so many other things that there's enough time

where I'm not on social media.

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And like it's just regulated because of all the other activities I do and like the time I

don't have to spend on social media.

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But it definitely does affect our generation, like my generation and like, you know, it's

like, I know a lot of my friends don't have social media, which I fully understand because

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you have your parents.

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You know, like I can see both ways um and like I think that's kind of where I stand like I

don't post anything because I'm like I don't want it to I Don't want myself right affected

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by like what other people think of me.

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Do you feel like, mean, have you experienced any or known anybody who's been affected

negatively by like social media stuff?

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not that I can think of any of my friends That's good like any of my close friends because

they just like again none of my friends.

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We just don't Right.

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I mean we'll watch but like we don't you

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Yeah, you know that the people who invented these products like who invented Instagram and

all these tick-tock They don't let their children use them It says a lot about how

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nefarious they are uh And what was it like you've been in high school what for about?

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three four months now

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Like, three, two?

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How has that been?

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It's a big change.

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It's nice.

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mean, I definitely miss things at my middle school that like, I really just like the

people and also honestly the building was kind of nicer, like the building.

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The one thing I've noticed about high school is that like grades don't really separate.

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Like the whole school is kind of just together.

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Like I have some, I'm really close with some of the seniors, but I'm also close with some

of the freshmen and you know, like other grades, they all kind of mixed together, which I

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think is interesting.

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And like, I also have classes with the juniors and seniors.

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that's interesting.

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They didn't have that.

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That was not the case when I was in high school.

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We were all with the same.

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What classes do you have with upperclassmen?

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Oh, right.

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Okay.

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and then outro two and Spanish.

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Okay, yeah, I guess choir and band I had with other yeah with older kids.

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Yeah

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But it's definitely, I like that more.

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And like in middle school, I mean, we still had that, but you never had classes with any

of them.

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So it's hard to see them throughout the day.

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right, Is it different or the same as you expected?

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Like when you went in, did you have expectations about it?

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I didn't really know what to expect.

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I didn't have a preset thought of what heist could be.

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I I saw this stuff in movies, but I never really expected that to be the same.

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Right, right, right.

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ah So has it been better or worse?

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um I think better.

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I think one thing I guess one expectation I had was more classes like more homework sure

But that's not really how it's been like honestly interesting.

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I haven't had much like I could be wrong.

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Maybe it's coming but like I just the teachers are like more chill honestly weird so

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Huh, I don't know if your parents are gonna wanna hear that, but.

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They really will.

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It's probably the.

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I mean they know I don't I don't do any homework at home.

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I just don't have any huh.

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I do it at school

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I mean there's mixed feelings about homework these days in the sense that like, know

You're at school all day and then should you really be going home and then doing school

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again?

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I mean it seems a little bit I feel like there should be a little homework But to a degree

that I had it when I was in high school.

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We had a lot of homework And I hated doing it

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I don't like you either.

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can only the only homework I can understand is if you didn't finish it in class and it's

just something that's like Carries over.

230

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Yeah, or like a project right but like they're like, hey, I need you to do this outside of

school Like I really don't understand that especially since I know People who have like

231

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jobs and sports and like have other things going on in their lives.

232

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They just don't have time.

233

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So yeah

234

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Yeah.

235

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Are you a good student?

236

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I mean, yeah.

237

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Yeah, if I got anything below an A, I think I'd cry.

238

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Oh really?

239

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Yeah.

240

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Oh you're that good of a student.

241

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That's great.

242

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That's good to know.

243

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It's good to know what's your favorite subject.

244

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Oh, that's true.

245

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Honestly, for me to change, it's like depending on the teacher.

246

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Okay, that makes sense.

247

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But honestly, right now, one of my favorite classes is probably Spanish 3.

248

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Oh, It's right before lunch, which...

249

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Boy, no.

250

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Yeah.

251

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Sorry, I wasn't expecting that.

252

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And like, just like I have friends in that class and the teacher's nice, so...

253

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And are you learning Spanish?

254

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Yeah, well yeah, I guess, I guess so.

255

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You're getting pretty good at it.

256

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I'm trying to learn Spanish and it's not going well.

257

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I have labels all over the house as you'll see of things that I've labeled.

258

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Not in this room.

259

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Behind you there's a poster that I got in uh Columbia.

260

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What does it say?

261

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ah I also...

262

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Yeah.

263

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I also lived the life.

264

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Good job.

265

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Good job.

266

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Good job.

267

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Hey, you got an A.

268

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Well, la de da.

269

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So what's something that you feel like adults don't understand about what it's like to be

a teenager right now?

270

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Um, I think they just forget honestly, okay I could be wrong about this, but I feel like

teenagers have heightened emotions and like, you know, generally that's just kind of how

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it is I mean, I think they kind of forget that and then it's like You know, I might care a

lot about something but they don't really understand that right and it's like it'll seem

272

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like the smallest little thing and like it doesn't make sense to them But to me, I mean,

this is my whole world.

273

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Like I don't know anything else besides what?

274

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Right, high school and so forth.

275

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So like that's what matters most to me right now and I think No offense to my parents.

276

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I'm not calling them old but like they haven't been in high school for a nice chunk of

time

277

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A nice chunk of time.

278

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That's a great way of putting it.

279

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I haven't been in high school in a larger nice chunk of time than your parents, but not

that much.

280

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No, I don't want to go back to high school.

281

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High school is interesting, Mia, because it's like the only time in your life that you

will be around the same group of people, your class, for all the time.

282

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Like you're just kind of, and it's really interesting once you get out and looking back,

cause you're like, oh,

283

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I didn't really appreciate that when I was in it.

284

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I mean, it's good and bad because you don't like everybody.

285

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How many people are in your class?

286

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200 something.

287

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200, 300.

288

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Probably something around there.

289

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ah But yeah, it's interesting.

290

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Some of the people, I enjoy.

291

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Some other people, not so much.

292

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you find your people, you pick and choose.

293

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eh But then you'll get to go to high school reunions in like 10 years after you graduate

and 20 years and you'll see how these people have grown up and that's the interesting

294

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part.

295

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That will be interesting.

296

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I'm I will be there.

297

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I will like to see that

298

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You'll find a lot of like the jocks because I was not athletic in high school at all.

299

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I was a theater nerd and uh and all and show choir as well.

300

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uh and a lot of the jocks like the football jocks had become fat and bald, which gave me

pleasure.

301

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And that most of them have been through a divorce as well, which also gave me pleasure.

302

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But that will be interesting to see what relationship lasts.

303

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really is interesting, yeah.

304

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Because there were a few that people who met in high school were still married.

305

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Not very many, but a few.

306

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And a surprising amount of people who hadn't left the town, like Westlake.

307

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No, most of them had not.

308

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They still lived in the area, I found surprising.

309

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Yeah, what do you think?

310

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Do you think you're going to leave Columbus at some point?

311

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What do you think?

312

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I know.

313

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I like Glendale.

314

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um But like I also do want to see the world because like For me, there's not a point in

staying in one place the whole time.

315

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That just seems like a waste of my time Exactly, so I would definitely like to see other

parts of the world, but I don't know where if I'll You know come back to her and live here

316

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or yeah, I'll move elsewhere.

317

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Yeah

318

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I I went and lived all over and then came back to Ohio.

319

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Right now I'm kind of just thinking about my test next week.

320

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I was in band.

321

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you have a test in band.

322

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I don't think we had those.

323

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You have to like play a piece basically.

324

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Yeah.

325

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And that's marching band.

326

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All right.

327

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Oh, all right.

328

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Then what do you play?

329

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all right.

330

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Why'd you choose the alto sax?

331

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Not really sure, it's kind of coming back to bite me now.

332

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No, it's because it's heavy.

333

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Like the case.

334

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It's a big yeah.

335

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Yeah.

336

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Yeah.

337

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Well hindsight.

338

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Yeah.

339

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Yeah

340

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Really kinda should've thought one.

341

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Should've thought that one.

342

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I mean, yeah, it's fun.

343

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All right.

344

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I never could play.

345

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I played a like a I could play cornet like it's a small trumpet and then I a valve

trombone and marching band, which I really didn't care for.

346

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But I never learned how to play like the reeded instruments.

347

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Yeah, I could play all the other instruments pretty much pianos and all that kind of

thing, but never any reeded things.

348

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Yeah, I never tried.

349

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So maybe I should try sometime.

350

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Now think about it, I chose this in fifth grade, I don't really remember why I chose it.

351

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I could not tell you, but it's, I mean, I like it.

352

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Like it's, I feel like playing a brass instrument, I wouldn't like that, like on your

lips, like that sounds...

353

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I know, I wouldn't.

354

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doesn't sound too...

355

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Yeah, when I got braces, I couldn't really do it as well because that makes it very hard

to go...

356

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I know I've been through a few rounds of races and I like in middle school I had this

friend and she was another Alistair Saxon and we'd sit together You know, we both like

357

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we're going through races and we'd be like, sorry I just got my braces tight and I can't

play today

358

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You gotta take up my slack.

359

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Yeah, I mean, probably could have, but you know.

360

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I've never been, and this is no offense, I've never been a fan of the sound of saxophones.

361

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That's fair.

362

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I think you just have to play specific piece.

363

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Like, I feel like saxophones, they can't play everything, but if you give them the right

music, it can sound really pretty.

364

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Absolutely, there's definitely like, you know, you're John Coltrane and so forth, like,

given the choice, I'd go with like brass.

365

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Like when I went to New Orleans and like the brass bands everywhere that really like gets

me.

366

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Loud brass music, like marching, like the marching band, the Ohio State.

367

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I think saxons I just this could be me, you know, because I play play it but like I think

they're kind of just like this left out instrument because they don't fit into a concert

368

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band like they're just they're never part of like a symphony orchestra or anything.

369

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Right.

370

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I mean they're a jazzy instrument.

371

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Yeah, you think of that when you think of jazz, but it's not like, you know, they'll be

all brass bands, but you don't have a saxophone in all brass bands, right?

372

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You know It's a jazz

373

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they're trying to kind of fit it in somewhere in high school bands

374

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Yeah, so it's like I always do feel a little like a little left out because like we're

with the woodwinds, but The woodwinds are they're an odd group like with the whole flute

375

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clarinet

376

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don't get me started on the oboe.

377

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I mean that's...

378

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Yeah, well actually I can't say much bad stuff about that life one of my best friends

plays the elbow I do know

379

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Well, I mean, no offense to her, of course.

380

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I find that in general, your friend accepted.

381

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The oboe community is a strange one.

382

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I can see that.

383

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some would Windsor.

384

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I feel bad, but I feel like the stereotypes do fit a lot of the instrument.

385

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Well it's a strange word to oboe.

386

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Oboe.

387

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mean if you say, you know how when you say a word over and over again it loses its meaning

and you're like, what are we even saying anymore?

388

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Oboe is one of those.

389

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Who thought of that?

390

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Like saxophone, that's a legit word, but oboe.

391

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I mean, generally with instruments, they're named after the person who made them.

392

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Bob.

393

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Yeah, that's probably was probably Robert.

394

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But yeah.

395

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There's Robbie.

396

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have to look that up after the show.

397

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um

398

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Oboes, I think they're always really good at their instrument.

399

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for sure.

400

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Never met a bad oboe.

401

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No, if you're gonna choose the oboe you're gonna commit to the oboe.

402

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You really have to want to play the oboe.

403

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Church is.

404

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And that can be beautiful depending on the piece as well.

405

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um I can imagine it'd be hard to listen to somebody practicing that if they're not very

good though.

406

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A lot of squeaking.

407

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Yeah.

408

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Yeah.

409

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Yeah.

410

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Huh.

411

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Band.

412

00:21:45,865 --> 00:21:49,298

Yeah, I was in marching band for one year and I didn't care for it at all.

413

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Yeah, I was in the freshman year and I just didn't care for it so I switched to show

choir.

414

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Singing and dancing was more my game.

415

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I mean it does take away a lot of Friday nights, which is right not great But I do like

being there like it's a fun time and especially all the people are you know nice and

416

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funny, so Yeah, our football team sucks, so

417

00:22:11,051 --> 00:22:13,167

well, you know, but you're the highlight then.

418

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Yeah.

419

00:22:13,504 --> 00:22:14,677

No, we are.

420

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are.

421

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Yeah.

422

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It's the funny part, but.

423

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We had to do like a whole summer thing too.

424

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It was like weeks and weeks of practice in the summer.

425

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Ben camp.

426

00:22:21,774 --> 00:22:22,774

camp, yeah.

427

00:22:23,414 --> 00:22:24,794

What are your friends like?

428

00:22:24,854 --> 00:22:25,594

My friends?

429

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Yeah.

430

00:22:26,014 --> 00:22:29,035

Well, I do.

431

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They're all a little different.

432

00:22:30,066 --> 00:22:34,007

have some friends who are like really into theater, like that's their thing.

433

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And like I am too, but like I doubt one a little bit of.

434

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And I have two friends that I can think of.

435

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They're crazy good at sports.

436

00:22:41,589 --> 00:22:42,979

Like they are just, that's their thing.

437

00:22:42,979 --> 00:22:46,200

Like that's, mean, they do other stuff, but like they're really good at sports.

438

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And you know, my oboe friend, she's really good at the oboe.

439

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Like that's her main thing.

440

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But she's also one of my wrestling friends.

441

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So...

442

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Goal.

443

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We play a lot of the same sports.

444

00:23:00,367 --> 00:23:01,018

well that's fun.

445

00:23:01,018 --> 00:23:01,618

That's fun.

446

00:23:01,618 --> 00:23:04,662

um What do you think you're the best at?

447

00:23:04,946 --> 00:23:13,848

Um, that's hard question for me because I think personally I'm just kind of okayed

everything I just do so many things that there's no I can't really be great at one thing

448

00:23:13,848 --> 00:23:22,934

because I just focus on too many things at once Which is probably that probably tells you

something about me, but like ah

449

00:23:22,934 --> 00:23:24,972

I kind of the same way I relate to that.

450

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Yeah.

451

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So it's like, I don't think there's any one thing that I'm just great at, but I'm just,

okay, a lot of things.

452

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And I think that's kind of what I've accepted.

453

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And that's just what I do.

454

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It's a good realization to have at your age uh and high school is a great place to like,

know Try to do all the things because it's one of the like you won't have a chance to be

455

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in like a marching band when you're an adult or like, you know all these things and it's

crazy because you don't think about that but then you get into older age and you're like,

456

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you know, found a choir here but like in general people don't go into choirs as you know,

so Yeah, do all the things while you can

457

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That's kind of my mindset.

458

00:23:58,740 --> 00:23:59,824

good philosophy.

459

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Really, I've done everything.

460

00:24:02,008 --> 00:24:12,961

Yeah, I mean you're wrestling for crying out loud, which is never a thing I'd imagine

you're doing so yeah and what do you do you have like a Plan do you want what do you want?

461

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Any ideas what you want to do after this high school scenario?

462

00:24:15,582 --> 00:24:25,530

Know I want to go to college like I that's definitely one thing I wanted to do I'm not

quite sure oh what I'd want to major in There's like a lot of different things that I

463

00:24:25,530 --> 00:24:34,512

would you know, let's what I guess film that'd be Like not on the acting side, but like

behind the scenes production.

464

00:24:34,512 --> 00:24:35,344

Yeah

465

00:24:35,344 --> 00:24:37,886

I can give you some background on how that life will be

466

00:24:37,886 --> 00:24:41,789

And then I thought about engineering a lot and specifically aerospace engineering.

467

00:24:41,789 --> 00:24:44,493

That's what sounds like.

468

00:24:44,493 --> 00:24:46,836

I think that's the front runner in my head right now.

469

00:24:46,836 --> 00:24:52,582

Like I'm that's my best subject is probably math and like the science sciences and stuff

in school.

470

00:24:52,582 --> 00:24:56,526

So I think that would fit me well.

471

00:24:57,147 --> 00:24:59,958

I've also thought about like forensic science and stuff.

472

00:24:59,958 --> 00:25:01,681

Interesting like crime stuff.

473

00:25:01,681 --> 00:25:03,483

do you listen to crime podcast?

474

00:25:03,483 --> 00:25:14,620

uh It's weird women generally listen to those more than men like that's a very the

audience for female listening to it and it's just and like who knows why that is it's

475

00:25:14,620 --> 00:25:15,276

interesting

476

00:25:15,276 --> 00:25:17,375

and more men commit the crime so...

477

00:25:17,940 --> 00:25:19,253

Right, right, right.

478

00:25:19,253 --> 00:25:22,956

What do you think is the appeal to you of listening to true crime?

479

00:25:22,956 --> 00:25:31,466

I always just find it fascinating like on how such terrible people can do such terrible

things sure it's I don't know it's interesting to go into like the psychology part of it

480

00:25:31,466 --> 00:25:35,261

and like Understand why they would do that and like right?

481

00:25:35,261 --> 00:25:36,428

It's just it's crazy

482

00:25:36,428 --> 00:25:40,736

Right, I often wonder if some people are just like born bad.

483

00:25:40,736 --> 00:25:41,157

I know.

484

00:25:41,157 --> 00:25:45,090

Like, that's a question I've heard a lot of people ask.

485

00:25:45,090 --> 00:25:51,206

It's like, do people change or is it, you know, is it affected by other things or is it

how they are?

486

00:25:51,206 --> 00:26:01,587

How much about how they were raised had this to do with us things like that but like it

does seem like there's a certain number a small number of people who just are Bad and even

487

00:26:01,587 --> 00:26:03,629

seem to enjoy being bad.

488

00:26:03,629 --> 00:26:04,851

It's like that.

489

00:26:04,851 --> 00:26:05,582

They like it.

490

00:26:05,582 --> 00:26:06,198

Yeah

491

00:26:06,198 --> 00:26:14,606

Yeah, yeah, they find joy in that it's it's definitely interesting to see how people You

know are and just like what they enjoy.

492

00:26:14,606 --> 00:26:15,538

I guess.

493

00:26:15,538 --> 00:26:16,960

Yeah certain things

494

00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:26,241

It's I watch these my latest little YouTube addiction is these They take these that you

know the body cam footage from the police officers and now they're putting these videos

495

00:26:26,241 --> 00:26:34,139

You probably seen them, but they're all over the internet There's so many of them and it's

like fascinating for some reason to me to watch these like police go to the crime the

496

00:26:34,139 --> 00:26:38,003

crime scene in person and see all the I don't know why but yeah, very strange

497

00:26:38,003 --> 00:26:42,238

I think my least favorite job would be a crime scene cleanup.

498

00:26:42,238 --> 00:26:43,454

yeah, that sounds terrible

499

00:26:43,454 --> 00:26:45,036

No, you're hosing down the blood and stuff.

500

00:26:45,036 --> 00:26:49,090

Yeah, no, no, no, no, no somebody though wants that job.

501

00:26:49,090 --> 00:26:50,850

It's like I want to clean up the blood

502

00:26:50,850 --> 00:26:55,866

That's what makes it interesting on how different people are and like how someone would

like that job.

503

00:26:55,866 --> 00:26:56,982

That's a great job.

504

00:26:56,982 --> 00:26:59,057

I would worry about that person a little bit though.

505

00:26:59,057 --> 00:27:03,038

Like if I was a parent and you were like, I want to clean up the blood after the crimes.

506

00:27:03,038 --> 00:27:05,281

You'd be like, what have we done wrong?

507

00:27:05,396 --> 00:27:07,623

Yeah, it's like they don't even want to commit it they wanted

508

00:27:07,623 --> 00:27:08,905

No, they don't even want to research it.

509

00:27:08,905 --> 00:27:09,816

They don't know anything.

510

00:27:09,816 --> 00:27:15,977

They just want to clean up the mess which yeah, no um So where do you see yourself?

511

00:27:15,977 --> 00:27:18,942

Let's say 10 years down the road

512

00:27:18,990 --> 00:27:19,926

10 years away.

513

00:27:19,926 --> 00:27:21,084

That's a long time.

514

00:27:21,084 --> 00:27:22,555

years old just out of college.

515

00:27:22,555 --> 00:27:23,015

Right.

516

00:27:23,015 --> 00:27:29,018

Well, maybe not just out but I mean I was in college for six years, but we don't need to

talk about that.

517

00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:39,894

I you know, I was I was a bit of a slacker in college and some of the classes that I

couldn't decide what to major in because I thought to major in one thing would be to

518

00:27:39,894 --> 00:27:41,545

exclude like I'm a dabbler too.

519

00:27:41,545 --> 00:27:47,138

So I felt like if I major in political science say then I'm gonna be a political scientist

most likely.

520

00:27:47,138 --> 00:27:47,479

Yeah.

521

00:27:47,479 --> 00:27:50,156

And what but then what if I want to do all these other things?

522

00:27:50,156 --> 00:27:50,346

Right?

523

00:27:50,346 --> 00:27:51,388

What if I want to do films?

524

00:27:51,388 --> 00:27:56,067

So I couldn't, I had trouble choosing a major and then, you know, it's a long story.

525

00:27:56,067 --> 00:27:58,862

And then I was having too much fun and so I just, six years, yeah.

526

00:27:58,862 --> 00:28:00,004

And I'm not a doctor.

527

00:28:00,004 --> 00:28:00,385

No.

528

00:28:00,385 --> 00:28:00,906

No.

529

00:28:00,906 --> 00:28:01,422

No.

530

00:28:01,422 --> 00:28:03,365

24 years let me or 10 years.

531

00:28:03,365 --> 00:28:05,468

Um, well, I'll probably be broke.

532

00:28:05,468 --> 00:28:08,903

I feel like that's It is a great stuff.

533

00:28:08,903 --> 00:28:18,670

Yeah, I'm just trying to accept that I can yeah, but like you know the job and like all

that debt from college Yeah, I've heard

534

00:28:18,670 --> 00:28:20,730

Yeah, no, I still have student loan debt.

535

00:28:21,570 --> 00:28:23,830

Yeah, it's a real, don't get me started.

536

00:28:23,830 --> 00:28:25,050

Don't get me started.

537

00:28:25,390 --> 00:28:26,010

Yeah.

538

00:28:26,010 --> 00:28:29,170

Just don't go to like film school for grad school.

539

00:28:29,170 --> 00:28:32,630

And also don't go to the most expensive art school in the country as well.

540

00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:33,830

would just like to just.

541

00:28:34,370 --> 00:28:35,750

Yeah, don't do that.

542

00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:36,650

Yeah.

543

00:28:37,610 --> 00:28:39,350

No, no, I would not recommend that.

544

00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:41,430

I mean, they give scholarships, but yeah.

545

00:28:41,514 --> 00:28:43,095

I would really hope to get a scholarship.

546

00:28:43,095 --> 00:28:45,394

That's kind of, that's kind of why.

547

00:28:45,998 --> 00:28:51,326

That's not why I'm doing all that I'm doing in high school, but I think it helps having a

lot of stuff in.

548

00:28:51,326 --> 00:28:56,088

Yeah, it like you'll have a very well-rounded uh college application essay.

549

00:28:56,088 --> 00:28:57,827

That's, I would like to be well rounded.

550

00:28:57,827 --> 00:28:59,111

That's my goal.

551

00:29:01,102 --> 00:29:02,264

That's what I think.

552

00:29:02,327 --> 00:29:07,606

Yeah, so I don't know exactly what I'd be doing, but I think probably something in

science.

553

00:29:07,606 --> 00:29:11,630

Okay, okay, let's say 20 years.

554

00:29:11,630 --> 00:29:13,774

in one year, so I'll be thirty-

555

00:29:13,774 --> 00:29:19,150

34 years old it'll be it'll be it'll be 2045

556

00:29:20,165 --> 00:29:21,400

Don't say that!

557

00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,457

Don't say that!

558

00:29:22,457 --> 00:29:26,186

crazy to me ah I'll be 71.

559

00:29:26,186 --> 00:29:30,082

Oh, so we be married with kids

560

00:29:30,082 --> 00:29:32,668

Probably yeah, maybe I don't you don't know.

561

00:29:32,668 --> 00:29:33,630

I don't know.

562

00:29:33,630 --> 00:29:36,717

I definitely want to travel I do want a family like this.

563

00:29:36,717 --> 00:29:38,988

I enjoy kids

564

00:29:38,988 --> 00:29:40,760

Yeah, I do too.

565

00:29:41,041 --> 00:29:47,241

Yeah, not really young kids, but like, you know, I've always liked talking to younger

people It's like my jam any boys.

566

00:29:47,241 --> 00:29:49,378

No, no interest in boys

567

00:29:49,378 --> 00:29:50,839

I not right now.

568

00:29:50,839 --> 00:29:51,699

No.

569

00:29:52,460 --> 00:29:54,441

I'm more focused on other things.

570

00:29:55,282 --> 00:29:56,522

I mean, yeah.

571

00:29:56,823 --> 00:29:58,344

Yeah, I mean, that started like middle school.

572

00:29:58,344 --> 00:30:01,586

It's it's getting more serious now, but.

573

00:30:02,253 --> 00:30:05,720

Yeah, I didn't have a girlfriend I think I could take a sophomore or something.

574

00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,111

Yeah.

575

00:30:06,111 --> 00:30:08,907

Yeah, and she didn't even go to my school She was from theater stuff.

576

00:30:08,907 --> 00:30:09,428

Okay.

577

00:30:09,428 --> 00:30:11,052

Yeah, you want to have kids though?

578

00:30:11,052 --> 00:30:11,282

Yeah.

579

00:30:11,282 --> 00:30:12,093

Yeah

580

00:30:13,624 --> 00:30:15,569

I think everyone's kind of goal is to be rich.

581

00:30:15,569 --> 00:30:17,354

So that'd be kind of cool, but.

582

00:30:17,354 --> 00:30:19,514

thing is that money doesn't it's true what they say.

583

00:30:19,514 --> 00:30:31,154

It doesn't it doesn't give you happiness It just gives you like at a certain point some

comfort, but really like if you want to live your life, it's a balance for me really and

584

00:30:31,154 --> 00:30:41,054

I've always kind of leaned towards like experience and fun opposed as opposed to You know

accumulating wealth because then you don't what are you gonna do something with the money?

585

00:30:41,054 --> 00:30:43,014

Like if you do get rich, what are you gonna do with that money?

586

00:30:43,014 --> 00:30:43,974

So you have all the money.

587

00:30:43,974 --> 00:30:45,442

What do you get all the money?

588

00:30:45,442 --> 00:30:45,945

all the money.

589

00:30:45,945 --> 00:30:47,121

Well, I'd want to travel.

590

00:30:47,121 --> 00:30:48,997

That's definitely one thing I'd want.

591

00:30:48,997 --> 00:30:49,770

are we gonna go?

592

00:30:49,770 --> 00:30:51,614

Where's the first place we're gonna go?

593

00:30:52,781 --> 00:30:54,516

Europe, any particular country?

594

00:30:54,516 --> 00:31:03,803

this came up at dinner last night and grandpa he just started talking about his like

heritage and stuff right and I guess he's a half Finnish but I right no one ever told me

595

00:31:03,803 --> 00:31:13,649

that so I mean I guess I'd be go that'd be interesting go to Finland and like he has all

the places like where his family was from and stuff so it'd be interesting to go there and

596

00:31:13,649 --> 00:31:20,558

like see that absolutely more Germany yeah you know also we're German yeah

597

00:31:20,558 --> 00:31:22,221

Yeah, good sausages there.

598

00:31:23,006 --> 00:31:26,418

Yeah, if like sausage, sauerkraut, probably not at your age sauerkraut's fine.

599

00:31:26,418 --> 00:31:27,198

Not quite here.

600

00:31:27,198 --> 00:31:28,811

You'll like it as you get older.

601

00:31:28,835 --> 00:31:30,798

in I heard they have good waffles.

602

00:31:30,850 --> 00:31:40,876

Yeah, I'm not sure if Like I've been I think I've been through Belgium and I don't think

that I had a waffle but I don't know that They have better waffles than any other places,

603

00:31:40,897 --> 00:31:54,746

but I don't know maybe maybe they do Yeah, and there's only one way to find out by going

well or asking the internet really yeah, but right You don't say The internet can be dodgy

604

00:31:54,746 --> 00:31:56,628

by Mia Bifus, that's a great one.

605

00:31:56,628 --> 00:31:58,408

It's that's a great one.

606

00:31:58,609 --> 00:31:59,890

What's yeah.

607

00:31:59,890 --> 00:32:00,334

Yeah

608

00:32:00,334 --> 00:32:03,662

um Is there something that you're excited about in the future?

609

00:32:03,662 --> 00:32:06,924

Um, well, one thing I'm doing is I'm doing history day.

610

00:32:06,964 --> 00:32:14,168

It's like this thing where, there's a theme every year and then you like, you can do it by

yourself or like with a small group.

611

00:32:14,168 --> 00:32:19,681

Um, and you like pick a topic that fits the theme and you like make this whole big project

about it.

612

00:32:19,681 --> 00:32:23,843

There's like multiple different entries, entry styles that you can do.

613

00:32:23,843 --> 00:32:28,916

You can do like an exhibit board, a documentary, a performance.

614

00:32:28,916 --> 00:32:31,647

Like there's more, think there's something there's like five.

615

00:32:31,647 --> 00:32:32,057

Right.

616

00:32:32,057 --> 00:32:33,548

Um,

617

00:32:33,614 --> 00:32:37,094

Anyways, but my friends and I were doing, we're gonna do it.

618

00:32:37,094 --> 00:32:42,734

I mean, it's required for humanities, but like, we're gonna enter in the competition and

like.

619

00:32:43,934 --> 00:32:47,674

Well, the theme this year is revolution, reaction, reform.

620

00:32:48,074 --> 00:32:51,134

And so our plan, it could change.

621

00:32:51,134 --> 00:32:54,094

But I think we were gonna do like the Code Girls.

622

00:32:54,094 --> 00:33:00,394

were like this group of women during World War II who like were hired to be code breakers.

623

00:33:01,058 --> 00:33:04,260

It's really interesting that they like couldn't tell their families is very secret.

624

00:33:04,260 --> 00:33:08,342

They were like teenagers, like they were young adult women.

625

00:33:08,342 --> 00:33:12,004

um So we thought that would be really interesting.

626

00:33:12,925 --> 00:33:13,937

Something we're interested.

627

00:33:13,937 --> 00:33:16,664

Sure, sure, Like what would you make?

628

00:33:16,664 --> 00:33:18,636

Like a documentary or like a...

629

00:33:18,636 --> 00:33:20,134

do an exhibit board.

630

00:33:20,134 --> 00:33:21,844

exhibit So it's like a trifold.

631

00:33:22,348 --> 00:33:28,723

Yeah, it's a good one because I think it's a thing people don't a lot of people don't know

about Yeah, yeah, and I think I'd heard something about something like that, but I didn't

632

00:33:28,723 --> 00:33:31,224

know that that was just a big thing back then

633

00:33:31,224 --> 00:33:35,348

Yeah, so we'll see how that goes.

634

00:33:35,348 --> 00:33:37,047

Well, I guess the men were in the war,

635

00:33:37,047 --> 00:33:38,727

Right, right, right that makes sense.

636

00:33:38,727 --> 00:33:39,408

Yeah.

637

00:33:39,408 --> 00:33:48,590

Yeah, you know women were the first side note but like women the first people who were the

big film editors back in the day when you were actually cutting film were almost all women

638

00:33:48,590 --> 00:33:57,873

because they thought it was like knitting like sewing ah So some of the earliest like big

editors were women, which I always thought was interesting, isn't it?

639

00:33:57,873 --> 00:33:58,473

Yeah.

640

00:33:58,473 --> 00:34:03,284

Yeah What's your favorite song right now

641

00:34:03,323 --> 00:34:04,526

favorite song?

642

00:34:04,526 --> 00:34:07,454

ah That's a good question.

643

00:34:07,454 --> 00:34:09,079

Can I really come back to that?

644

00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:11,283

I need to like think about that.

645

00:34:11,903 --> 00:34:13,871

Alright, you don't have to come up with favorite.

646

00:34:13,871 --> 00:34:16,101

You can just be like one of the big ones on your playlist.

647

00:34:16,101 --> 00:34:17,130

Something on rotate.

648

00:34:17,130 --> 00:34:21,774

Okay, well, this is gonna sound really really odd.

649

00:34:21,774 --> 00:34:32,702

Okay No, well, you know, we'll see um, but that one song from phantom of the opera is like

really sick Uh the one

650

00:34:33,051 --> 00:34:36,507

Not the Phantom of the upper That's the main one.

651

00:34:36,507 --> 00:34:38,898

Yeah inside my mind

652

00:34:38,898 --> 00:34:41,829

It's like been stuck in my head for a while because it was like went viral.

653

00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:43,031

I was like, it's cool.

654

00:34:43,031 --> 00:34:51,745

You know viral like recently I'm don't know why huh, but it's really interesting and it's

like been really stuck in my head

655

00:34:51,745 --> 00:34:56,713

That's crazy because that musical was huge when I was in high school like all the theater

kids knew all of that.

656

00:34:56,713 --> 00:34:57,196

Yeah

657

00:34:57,196 --> 00:34:58,766

Yeah, it's kind of died down.

658

00:34:58,766 --> 00:34:59,376

It has.

659

00:34:59,376 --> 00:35:00,325

Is it still?

660

00:35:00,325 --> 00:35:01,326

I don't think so.

661

00:35:01,326 --> 00:35:06,706

I think it closed just last year and year before yeah, it's one of the longest running

things I didn't see it on Broadway.

662

00:35:06,706 --> 00:35:08,826

I saw it in Toronto.

663

00:35:09,006 --> 00:35:10,982

Yeah, have you seen it?

664

00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:12,483

I mean, I've seen bits and pieces.

665

00:35:12,483 --> 00:35:13,336

right.

666

00:35:13,336 --> 00:35:16,194

Never I've never sat down and watched the full thing, but I've seen

667

00:35:16,194 --> 00:35:17,356

Yeah, it's a spectacle.

668

00:35:17,356 --> 00:35:19,879

Yeah, you know, it's been chandelier come all that kind of things.

669

00:35:19,879 --> 00:35:23,765

yeah, yeah How do you feel about your parents?

670

00:35:25,048 --> 00:35:27,056

What's your relationship like with your parents?

671

00:35:27,056 --> 00:35:27,798

I enjoy them.

672

00:35:27,798 --> 00:35:29,901

They are my favorite people.

673

00:35:32,022 --> 00:35:35,367

If you decide, you know, you don't want to talk about it, we don't have to talk about it.

674

00:35:35,367 --> 00:35:38,196

Mean I I think I have a good relationship with my parents.

675

00:35:38,196 --> 00:35:39,721

Yeah.

676

00:35:39,721 --> 00:35:41,166

Yeah, I value them.

677

00:35:41,166 --> 00:35:42,127

Yeah

678

00:35:42,295 --> 00:35:44,802

Yeah, yeah, it's hard being parents.

679

00:35:44,802 --> 00:35:50,687

I think I have no idea of course Yeah Yeah, and how are things with your brother?

680

00:35:51,926 --> 00:35:53,966

Oh, that thing.

681

00:35:56,026 --> 00:35:57,026

It's a tricky one.

682

00:35:57,026 --> 00:35:58,966

Yeah, it's not like a love hate relationship.

683

00:35:58,966 --> 00:36:01,586

I think that's how most siblings are.

684

00:36:02,406 --> 00:36:09,986

He's also at the age where it's like, I don't I feel bad because I'm always mad at him,

but it's just like he's just like at an annoying age right now.

685

00:36:09,986 --> 00:36:10,658

He's just annoying.

686

00:36:10,658 --> 00:36:16,162

Yeah, he's just really wants attention and uh he's got such a big heart that one

687

00:36:16,162 --> 00:36:20,373

He's very sensitive and it's like that's not a bad thing, but it's just like it can

688

00:36:20,844 --> 00:36:21,376

Yeah.

689

00:36:21,376 --> 00:36:22,037

Yeah.

690

00:36:22,037 --> 00:36:25,064

Like I'm sensitive and like I think he's sensitive.

691

00:36:25,064 --> 00:36:26,351

So that's saying quite a bit.

692

00:36:26,351 --> 00:36:26,900

Yeah.

693

00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:30,816

It's like, it's nothing bad, he just, he just can be a lot sometimes.

694

00:36:30,816 --> 00:36:37,506

It's like, you know, I think he'll, it'll get better as he gets older, but he's just, he's

young right now.

695

00:36:37,506 --> 00:36:39,909

He's a very interesting kid.

696

00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:43,766

And I'm very curious to see what he'll be like in like 10 or 15 years.

697

00:36:43,766 --> 00:36:44,817

I'm dying to know.

698

00:36:44,817 --> 00:36:53,546

um Like it's so, more than almost any of my friends or relatives' kids, he's the one I'm

like, I wanna know what that kid's doing in 10 or

699

00:36:56,078 --> 00:37:05,966

True he's so complicated Yeah, yeah, but you were very emotional and sensitive when you

were like five years ago I remember like you were like, uh, were like an open raw nerve,

700

00:37:05,966 --> 00:37:15,358

but you really kind of yeah It really has and i'm and it's really been fun to see actually

because I remember when I first moved here Which was now six seven years ago.

701

00:37:15,358 --> 00:37:21,819

um What?

702

00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,068

did say that um, but not on purpose

703

00:37:25,068 --> 00:37:26,519

Does make me legit?

704

00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:27,380

Am I cool now?

705

00:37:27,380 --> 00:37:27,900

Yeah.

706

00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:29,181

Yeah.

707

00:37:29,181 --> 00:37:30,261

No cap, bro.

708

00:37:30,261 --> 00:37:33,003

Oh, that's the perfect word.

709

00:37:33,003 --> 00:37:34,304

Fire no cap.

710

00:37:34,634 --> 00:37:35,014

yeah.

711

00:37:35,014 --> 00:37:35,485

That's...

712

00:37:35,485 --> 00:37:36,275

I'm doing it right.

713

00:37:36,275 --> 00:37:36,756

Doing it right.

714

00:37:36,756 --> 00:37:38,617

You're...

715

00:37:38,617 --> 00:37:41,879

It's like if you didn't see me here, you'd be like, is there another teenager here?

716

00:37:41,879 --> 00:37:46,112

Anyway, yeah.

717

00:37:46,112 --> 00:37:49,674

ah

718

00:37:49,674 --> 00:37:55,198

So when I moved here, you were having a very difficult time at the time and you were very

emotional.

719

00:37:55,198 --> 00:37:56,399

And I was worried about you.

720

00:37:56,399 --> 00:38:01,443

was, because whenever I'd see you, you'd be very either happy or sad, but usually not the

happiest.

721

00:38:01,443 --> 00:38:02,044

No.

722

00:38:02,044 --> 00:38:05,356

But yeah, it's been great to see you kind of grow out of that phase.

723

00:38:05,555 --> 00:38:11,492

I think one thing that affected my generation at least a lot was covid like I mean you met

me like

724

00:38:12,110 --> 00:38:13,210

Right before COVID.

725

00:38:13,210 --> 00:38:13,550

Yeah.

726

00:38:13,550 --> 00:38:15,750

Well, I met you when you were a toddler.

727

00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:17,900

yeah, I moved like 2018.

728

00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:28,127

Yeah, so like I was you know, definitely affected me a lot and just like not being by

anybody I didn't know like what was like socially I I just didn't know I didn't learn

729

00:38:28,127 --> 00:38:36,983

because like that was kind of like third and fourth grade for me like a little bit of

fifth too That was all like COVID.

730

00:38:36,983 --> 00:38:40,950

So like I didn't I saw nobody I saw my neighbors and that was it

731

00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:43,086

Right, and you saw your aunt and uncle.

732

00:38:43,086 --> 00:38:44,047

Yeah, and just like family.

733

00:38:44,047 --> 00:38:46,659

Like I would see family and then like my neighbors.

734

00:38:46,659 --> 00:38:49,882

Like there were like two neighbors that that was the only people I would see.

735

00:38:49,882 --> 00:38:50,673

Yeah.

736

00:38:50,673 --> 00:38:51,093

family.

737

00:38:51,093 --> 00:38:56,506

um So that was like, I, that took a while to grow out of.

738

00:38:56,506 --> 00:39:07,365

Yeah, yeah, yeah I can imagine I mean I can't imagine actually but um Did you learn a lot

during those periods when you're No, no, no, no Did your parents lose their minds having

739

00:39:07,365 --> 00:39:07,515

you?

740

00:39:07,515 --> 00:39:16,432

Yeah I can't imagine having kids during that age and having to like do a job at home and

then have to make sure your kids are doing school and like, you know, blah blah blah blah

741

00:39:16,432 --> 00:39:16,780

blah

742

00:39:16,780 --> 00:39:22,726

is we're also like trying to find a bigger like another house to So that was also

743

00:39:22,726 --> 00:39:25,854

right, guys were in that small house during covid which is insane.

744

00:39:25,854 --> 00:39:27,954

was, it was rough, it was rough.

745

00:39:27,954 --> 00:39:29,434

Or else now it's a lot better, but.

746

00:39:29,434 --> 00:39:29,966

For sure.

747

00:39:29,966 --> 00:39:32,706

Yeah, that was a rough time and you guys moved right around the time I moved in here.

748

00:39:32,706 --> 00:39:33,934

like 2021 wasn't it?

749

00:39:33,934 --> 00:39:36,816

Yeah, we've been in our house for probably three or four years, I think.

750

00:39:36,816 --> 00:39:38,239

yeah now you got all sorts of room.

751

00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:38,682

Yeah.

752

00:39:38,682 --> 00:39:39,562

Yeah.

753

00:39:39,564 --> 00:39:43,233

Yeah, but your dad said your room is an uh incredible mess

754

00:39:43,808 --> 00:39:47,023

He needs to shut up because I fixed it.

755

00:39:48,307 --> 00:39:49,530

I'll send you a picture.

756

00:39:49,530 --> 00:39:50,990

don't have to send me a picture.

757

00:39:50,990 --> 00:39:58,630

I had a messy bedroom when I was a kid and I said that to him I was like, you know, I had

a messy bedroom when I was a kid and he's like no, no, no, you don't understand.

758

00:39:58,630 --> 00:40:00,454

You don't stand it's like

759

00:40:00,454 --> 00:40:00,774

bad.

760

00:40:00,774 --> 00:40:02,137

But I just don't...

761

00:40:02,137 --> 00:40:03,618

it doesn't bother me.

762

00:40:05,081 --> 00:40:06,283

I just don't care.

763

00:40:06,283 --> 00:40:09,668

I mean it's better when it's clean but like I just don't really care if it's messy.

764

00:40:09,668 --> 00:40:11,596

And it's better now I cleaned it.

765

00:40:11,596 --> 00:40:15,213

He said that it was even hard for them to find a place to sleep on the bed.

766

00:40:15,446 --> 00:40:16,564

Okay, that's stretchy.

767

00:40:16,564 --> 00:40:16,918

oh

768

00:40:16,918 --> 00:40:20,140

Okay, I assumed there was a little exaggeration going on there.

769

00:40:23,062 --> 00:40:23,823

I'm sure he does.

770

00:40:23,823 --> 00:40:24,823

Yeah, I mean, he's your daughter.

771

00:40:24,823 --> 00:40:28,248

My parents had very strong opinions about my filthy bedroom when I was a kid,

772

00:40:28,248 --> 00:40:32,164

But also just my dad, like he's just very structured and organized.

773

00:40:32,445 --> 00:40:35,630

like, if I could describe with one word, it'd be spotless.

774

00:40:35,724 --> 00:40:38,607

If you could describe your dad with one word, would be spotless.

775

00:40:39,194 --> 00:40:40,130

Interesting.

776

00:40:40,130 --> 00:40:45,998

Because he just, he's not a clean freak, but like, he likes structure and order.

777

00:40:45,998 --> 00:40:47,498

Uh-huh, that's interesting.

778

00:40:47,498 --> 00:40:49,718

I never thought about that with your dad.

779

00:40:49,718 --> 00:40:52,218

Like I obviously see a different side of your dad than you do.

780

00:40:52,218 --> 00:40:53,098

Yeah.

781

00:40:53,238 --> 00:40:53,898

What about your mom?

782

00:40:53,898 --> 00:40:55,378

What's the one word?

783

00:40:56,378 --> 00:40:57,698

Heart felt.

784

00:40:58,078 --> 00:40:59,222

Oh, that's nice.

785

00:40:59,222 --> 00:41:01,493

Yeah, because I think that's this again.

786

00:41:01,493 --> 00:41:13,169

This isn't a bad thing, but she also has a lot of emotions like my dad He tends to bottle

things up So I've which I've noticed but my mom she is very she's more open about her

787

00:41:13,169 --> 00:41:13,709

emotions.

788

00:41:13,709 --> 00:41:15,670

Um, so that's

789

00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:19,272

Yeah, that's the thing that i'm trying to change about I think growing up in the midwest.

790

00:41:19,272 --> 00:41:25,645

It's a lot of people we don't do well with I mean at least in our family too like even the

extended family.

791

00:41:25,645 --> 00:41:27,677

We don't do a lot of like talking about our feelings.

792

00:41:27,677 --> 00:41:38,873

No, no Yeah, and I don't love that about it but um, and i've tried to you know Change

myself and that's all you can do really because people are either going to come to you and

793

00:41:38,873 --> 00:41:45,238

that's part of the reason i'm doing this podcast is because like I feel like not even not

even talking about feelings just talking about

794

00:41:45,238 --> 00:41:47,424

You I've never sat down and talked to you like this.

795

00:41:47,424 --> 00:41:50,000

You know, it's learning new things about you.

796

00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,214

You have any questions for me?

797

00:41:52,706 --> 00:41:54,590

Well, what was it like starting the podcast?

798

00:41:54,590 --> 00:41:55,844

Like how is this?

799

00:41:55,886 --> 00:41:57,546

Oh, that's an interesting question.

800

00:41:58,406 --> 00:41:59,506

It's been good.

801

00:41:59,506 --> 00:42:01,606

It's you know, I started it in early June.

802

00:42:01,606 --> 00:42:03,925

In fact, I remember when I was about to start it.

803

00:42:03,925 --> 00:42:05,346

Remember we were at that baseball game.

804

00:42:05,346 --> 00:42:05,986

Oh, we were.

805

00:42:05,986 --> 00:42:09,346

And we were talking about when the thunderstorm came in and we had to run for you.

806

00:42:09,346 --> 00:42:10,826

And I told you, you could be on the podcast.

807

00:42:10,826 --> 00:42:12,066

And here we are.

808

00:42:13,086 --> 00:42:14,666

But yeah, I started early June.

809

00:42:14,666 --> 00:42:18,826

And so it's been five months now and it's been good, you know.

810

00:42:19,086 --> 00:42:24,102

It's been good for my brain to have a creative thing to work on because it's been a while.

811

00:42:24,102 --> 00:42:25,353

Since I had a creative project.

812

00:42:25,353 --> 00:42:33,228

So that's been really good and it's really like the best part is like getting to like have

excuses to like get people like friends and family in here to have interesting

813

00:42:33,228 --> 00:42:36,992

conversations and get to know them because you don't often do that, right?

814

00:42:36,992 --> 00:42:38,184

It's not right.

815

00:42:38,184 --> 00:42:39,336

It's not often, right?

816

00:42:39,336 --> 00:42:44,733

I mean I'll sit down with my friends and have a good conversation But like I'm not gonna

do that with like my brother

817

00:42:44,838 --> 00:42:50,599

But even then it's like when the conversation ends with your friends, you're just like,

okay if the conversation starts to die out You're like, all right.

818

00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:51,261

I see you later.

819

00:42:51,261 --> 00:42:52,922

Yeah with this we got to keep it going.

820

00:42:52,922 --> 00:42:53,962

Yeah, you know what mean?

821

00:42:53,962 --> 00:42:55,002

Yeah, we got to keep talking.

822

00:42:55,002 --> 00:43:04,897

Yeah So but yeah, it's been good I just need to keep my dabbling brain from wanting to do

something else or pull whatever it is Maybe I'll start playing music on this because you

823

00:43:04,897 --> 00:43:09,129

know, knows start doing a song and dance or the tick-tock videos your career play brother.

824

00:43:09,129 --> 00:43:12,590

Yeah What makes you

825

00:43:13,110 --> 00:43:14,122

Genuinely happy.

826

00:43:14,122 --> 00:43:17,890

What's the thing that makes you like joy genuinely happy, whatever

827

00:43:17,890 --> 00:43:21,536

This is gonna sound odd, when the setting is just right.

828

00:43:21,538 --> 00:43:24,103

when it's like falling into, it actually feels like fall.

829

00:43:24,103 --> 00:43:29,453

There's like, maybe like jazz in the background and like all the leaves are falling and

it's like evening.

830

00:43:29,469 --> 00:43:30,624

when the vibe is right.

831

00:43:30,624 --> 00:43:31,118

Yes.

832

00:43:31,118 --> 00:43:31,499

Right.

833

00:43:31,499 --> 00:43:33,396

When's the last time you had that?

834

00:43:34,298 --> 00:43:44,318

Well, we were like on the bus to one of the football games it was an away football game

our last away football game and that was like I feel like right now we're kind of just

835

00:43:44,318 --> 00:43:53,058

getting over but it was like peak fall, you know, and like I could like smell a fire

There's like a like a cookout or like something going on There's like the kids behind me

836

00:43:53,058 --> 00:44:00,838

like talking on the bus and I was looking out the window and we're like passing all these

like leaves It was like evening time like the Sun hadn't fully set

837

00:44:01,006 --> 00:44:04,555

And I just like knowing where we were going and it was just like, it was very fall.

838

00:44:04,555 --> 00:44:05,877

Like the perfect moment.

839

00:44:05,877 --> 00:44:06,718

Yeah.

840

00:44:06,718 --> 00:44:07,839

I love that.

841

00:44:07,961 --> 00:44:12,488

I love that It also like speaks to like being present in the moment as well, which is a

good thing.

842

00:44:12,488 --> 00:44:12,849

Yeah.

843

00:44:12,849 --> 00:44:13,452

Yeah

844

00:44:13,452 --> 00:44:16,027

Another thing I like is when the food just tastes so good.

845

00:44:16,027 --> 00:44:17,778

Like, it could be the s-

846

00:44:17,778 --> 00:44:18,258

hate that.

847

00:44:18,258 --> 00:44:19,738

I hate when food tastes good.

848

00:44:19,738 --> 00:44:20,698

I'm kidding.

849

00:44:21,438 --> 00:44:22,778

I'm I'm kidding.

850

00:44:22,778 --> 00:44:24,058

It just seems like that's a pie.

851

00:44:24,058 --> 00:44:26,360

think that most people would say yes good tasting food

852

00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,686

That's what saying, it can be the simplest, but when it just hits right.

853

00:44:29,686 --> 00:44:30,398

When's the last time?

854

00:44:30,398 --> 00:44:34,700

When's the last thing you ate where you were like, my god, this is...

855

00:44:34,776 --> 00:44:36,926

was a few days ago that tasted really good.

856

00:44:36,926 --> 00:44:40,675

I think I had the same, some from the same batch because I think they were from Halloween.

857

00:44:40,675 --> 00:44:41,045

Yeah.

858

00:44:41,045 --> 00:44:42,780

Yeah.

859

00:44:42,780 --> 00:44:43,923

You're a Twizzler fan then.

860

00:44:43,923 --> 00:44:44,404

Yeah.

861

00:44:44,404 --> 00:44:44,925

Yeah.

862

00:44:44,925 --> 00:44:45,306

Yeah.

863

00:44:45,306 --> 00:44:46,497

What's your favorite candy?

864

00:44:46,497 --> 00:44:47,670

Do you have a favorite?

865

00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:48,542

I do like twizzers.

866

00:44:48,542 --> 00:44:50,237

Those are one of my favorites.

867

00:44:50,237 --> 00:44:52,463

One I get hate for a lot is peeps.

868

00:44:52,463 --> 00:44:53,194

I like peeps.

869

00:44:53,194 --> 00:44:53,960

I'm sorry.

870

00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,284

I mean, I like a peep maybe two peeps, but too many peeps

871

00:44:58,284 --> 00:45:02,006

I'm not just gonna like spam peeps, but I do enjoy them.

872

00:45:02,006 --> 00:45:04,228

It's funny the name of my last episode was peeps.

873

00:45:04,228 --> 00:45:04,706

Really?

874

00:45:04,706 --> 00:45:09,951

Yeah, but it was about no it was about people was called peeping because I was talking

about how I hate the term leaf peeping.

875

00:45:09,951 --> 00:45:10,822

Oh, okay.

876

00:45:10,822 --> 00:45:11,713

Yeah, I don't like it.

877

00:45:11,713 --> 00:45:14,840

You know, it seemed leaf peeping leaf peeping.

878

00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,585

I don't like it.

879

00:45:15,585 --> 00:45:16,316

don't like it.

880

00:45:16,316 --> 00:45:17,757

No, I mean, I like looking at the leaves.

881

00:45:17,757 --> 00:45:21,979

Yeah, and I'll go out and take a walk and look at the leaves, but I'm not gonna call it

leaf peeping.

882

00:45:22,860 --> 00:45:25,191

It is and it didn't it wasn't a thing when I was a kid.

883

00:45:25,191 --> 00:45:26,296

It's a newer thing.

884

00:45:26,296 --> 00:45:28,078

I've never heard this until right now.

885

00:45:28,078 --> 00:45:28,888

I've leaf peeping?

886

00:45:28,888 --> 00:45:29,528

No.

887

00:45:29,528 --> 00:45:30,399

that's great actually.

888

00:45:30,399 --> 00:45:31,779

Maybe it's going away.

889

00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:33,500

What does your generation have a term?

890

00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:36,320

Of course your generation doesn't have a term for leaf looking at.

891

00:45:37,621 --> 00:45:39,891

Leaf checking out leaves, brah, bro.

892

00:45:39,891 --> 00:45:40,262

No.

893

00:45:40,262 --> 00:45:42,382

No, no, it's pretty bad.

894

00:45:42,382 --> 00:45:43,402

Fire, no cap.

895

00:45:43,402 --> 00:45:46,323

uh Yeah.

896

00:45:46,323 --> 00:45:48,964

Is there any like specific things that you really dislike?

897

00:45:48,964 --> 00:45:51,565

I'll give you an example from my life that I was thinking about.

898

00:45:51,565 --> 00:45:53,466

I don't like sticky.

899

00:45:53,466 --> 00:45:55,372

I don't like when my hands are sticky.

900

00:45:55,372 --> 00:46:00,912

I don't like if there's a sticky spot on the floor and I walk over it all the time, like

all day, it drives me nuts.

901

00:46:00,912 --> 00:46:05,380

And it's always been like that, like eating syrupy things and I get the sticky stuff.

902

00:46:05,380 --> 00:46:05,921

I don't like it.

903

00:46:05,921 --> 00:46:06,722

What do you got?

904

00:46:06,722 --> 00:46:07,626

I get that.

905

00:46:07,626 --> 00:46:08,509

Hmm.

906

00:46:08,509 --> 00:46:10,857

Oh, I hate loud chewing.

907

00:46:10,857 --> 00:46:12,302

And it's like really bad.

908

00:46:12,302 --> 00:46:13,472

oh

909

00:46:13,472 --> 00:46:15,088

condition though, there's a term for that even.

910

00:46:15,088 --> 00:46:18,098

I a friend who hates- I can't even meet in front of him because he drives me crazy.

911

00:46:18,098 --> 00:46:28,409

not good and like i've gotten better like not saying anything because like I know it

bothers people like when i'm like commenting on their chewing um But no, it's bad and it's

912

00:46:28,409 --> 00:46:36,384

like I just I genuinely feel bad like for the people when i'm like, like can you chew

quieter but Because i'm like i'm sorry like

913

00:46:36,384 --> 00:46:39,091

I have a condition, I can't chew any quieter.

914

00:46:39,091 --> 00:46:41,225

My jaw's broken.

915

00:46:42,831 --> 00:46:45,900

Some people do chew really loudly though.

916

00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:48,568

Yeah, and like sometimes it is like, okay, you actually need to shut your mouth.

917

00:46:48,568 --> 00:46:49,261

Right.

918

00:46:49,261 --> 00:46:49,704

But

919

00:46:49,704 --> 00:46:53,242

Yeah, chewing with your mouth open at this time period like were we still doing that?

920

00:46:53,242 --> 00:46:54,572

Yeah, we kind of stopped with that

921

00:46:54,572 --> 00:46:58,568

No, I feel bad because my mom and my brother are like the biggest victims to my...

922

00:46:59,041 --> 00:47:01,164

there's their loud shivers in your life.

923

00:47:01,164 --> 00:47:02,949

Well, okay, that's how I hear them.

924

00:47:02,949 --> 00:47:05,024

They probably aren't to other people, right?

925

00:47:05,024 --> 00:47:07,202

Like it's probably just me and I'm like

926

00:47:07,202 --> 00:47:11,456

Yeah, I've never noticed them chewing loudly, but there's a word for that.

927

00:47:11,456 --> 00:47:15,346

There's definitely a word for people who can't deal with the sound of mouth sounds.

928

00:47:16,016 --> 00:47:20,360

All mouth sounds like that's probably what I should add like yeah lip smacking

929

00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:25,926

Yeah, yeah, no, I don't nobody wants to hear that uh but your dad's not allowed to

930

00:47:26,058 --> 00:47:28,879

He also doesn't like loud chewing, so his is better.

931

00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:36,763

I've noticed people who don't like loud chewing tend to be really quiet.

932

00:47:38,044 --> 00:47:43,222

Yeah, Aunt Tara, she doesn't like it either, um but she's quiet.

933

00:47:43,222 --> 00:47:46,954

Right, right, Interesting, it's like a thing that runs through your family.

934

00:47:46,954 --> 00:47:48,445

It really does.

935

00:47:48,445 --> 00:47:50,060

Something with the bifis bloodline.

936

00:47:50,060 --> 00:47:59,530

Yeah, I never uh, ever thought that I don't think I have an issue with that I've never I

mean certainly some people when it's really loud that's a lot but um What about like

937

00:47:59,530 --> 00:48:00,830

you're reading pretzels?

938

00:48:00,830 --> 00:48:02,222

Is that also problematic?

939

00:48:02,222 --> 00:48:07,828

It just depends on like, cause like if someone's just eating chips really loudly it's

gonna bother me but it's not gonna like-

940

00:48:08,022 --> 00:48:10,869

I mean it's hard to eat chips quietly to be clear

941

00:48:11,060 --> 00:48:12,623

and like that won't bother me too much.

942

00:48:12,623 --> 00:48:19,997

It's really just like the bath sounds like I think go with it, you know, Like I hate when

people like are sucking on a lollipop loudly

943

00:48:20,295 --> 00:48:21,579

Right, or popsicle.

944

00:48:21,579 --> 00:48:21,859

Yeah.

945

00:48:21,859 --> 00:48:23,286

um

946

00:48:23,286 --> 00:48:26,191

Yeah, but like it's more just like crunching.

947

00:48:26,191 --> 00:48:29,256

It's gonna annoy me but not like it's not gonna bother me.

948

00:48:29,256 --> 00:48:30,257

Right, right,

949

00:48:30,338 --> 00:48:33,061

Like if you're eating a steak and slapping your lips.

950

00:48:34,543 --> 00:48:35,585

Yeah, that's a good one.

951

00:48:35,585 --> 00:48:37,246

What are you worried about?

952

00:48:37,538 --> 00:48:39,080

What am I worried about?

953

00:48:39,244 --> 00:48:45,420

Like even on the small level or like really on a big level like about your future or

whatever it is.

954

00:48:45,420 --> 00:48:51,634

Well, there's something I've noticed and it's like something that bothers me or not

bothers but worries me.

955

00:48:51,634 --> 00:48:55,217

uh And it's like, it's kind of just like a self-conscious thing.

956

00:48:55,217 --> 00:48:57,999

But I worry about like saying the right thing, you know?

957

00:48:57,999 --> 00:49:07,090

Cause I feel like sometimes I am not the best picking up social cues or like understanding

what is the right thing to say and what's not the right thing to say.

958

00:49:07,090 --> 00:49:14,914

And it's sometimes it's interesting cause like it all is the same in my head, but

sometimes I'll say one thing and people will be like kind of quiet after I say it.

959

00:49:14,914 --> 00:49:18,848

then I'll say another thing, and then they think it's funny, they'll laugh and stuff.

960

00:49:18,848 --> 00:49:20,959

But it's it's the same in my head.

961

00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:28,458

So what I'm kind of trying to learn right now is like how to pick up on that, and like

what is good to say and what's bad to say, you know?

962

00:49:28,458 --> 00:49:37,646

Yeah, I would say don't I mean certainly there's a definitely a very strong line in some

way but also in a smaller way I wouldn't overthink it because uh

963

00:49:37,646 --> 00:49:39,283

But I also tend to overthink things.

964

00:49:39,283 --> 00:49:40,266

That's it.

965

00:49:40,366 --> 00:49:42,309

You gotta control that mind.

966

00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:43,411

Yeah.

967

00:49:43,411 --> 00:49:52,414

Yeah, your dad has that ruminating mind as well Yeah, but he doesn't talk about it, but he

just thinks but his brains always go He's like Batman.

968

00:49:52,414 --> 00:49:54,222

How is your dad like Batman?

969

00:49:54,222 --> 00:49:56,289

Well have you not seen LEGO Batman?

970

00:49:57,499 --> 00:49:58,301

Oh, nevermind.

971

00:49:58,301 --> 00:50:02,747

But I mean explain still I'm dying to know what I mean, so he's not like Batman.

972

00:50:02,747 --> 00:50:03,879

He's like Lego Batman.

973

00:50:03,879 --> 00:50:04,580

Yes.

974

00:50:04,580 --> 00:50:07,593

wow I'll be surprised

975

00:50:07,660 --> 00:50:17,073

I don't care about other Batman a Lego Batman is very like monotone does not share his

feelings not monotone but like Because my dad he'll have a good laugh but like it's like

976

00:50:17,173 --> 00:50:19,094

Bothering him on like a very deep level.

977

00:50:19,094 --> 00:50:20,574

He's not gonna tell anybody.

978

00:50:20,574 --> 00:50:33,004

Yeah, but like he'll tell you if Again, if my room's messy, he'll tell me if he doesn't

like that but like he's not gonna tell me if something else is wrong like on an emotional

979

00:50:33,004 --> 00:50:33,380

level

980

00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:35,291

Yeah, I mean, that's a Midwestern thing.

981

00:50:35,291 --> 00:50:38,803

You my dad didn't really talk about his emotions, you know.

982

00:50:38,984 --> 00:50:40,465

So, yeah, interesting.

983

00:50:40,465 --> 00:50:41,676

Lego Batman.

984

00:50:41,676 --> 00:50:43,756

That was just my first thought.

985

00:50:43,756 --> 00:50:45,107

No, it's a good one.

986

00:50:45,107 --> 00:50:53,254

what other there's no other um like giant fears or anxieties about, you know, the future

or whatever.

987

00:50:53,370 --> 00:51:06,778

It's like doing well, um and I hate I like been but like it's kind of a love-hate thing

there because I Despise I hate playing my saxophone alone Like in front of people it's my

988

00:51:06,778 --> 00:51:07,098

worst.

989

00:51:07,098 --> 00:51:08,659

It's genuinely my worst fear.

990

00:51:08,659 --> 00:51:13,162

Um, but like You know taking a test in math.

991

00:51:13,162 --> 00:51:14,502

I don't care

992

00:51:14,734 --> 00:51:17,262

Why do think the saxophone thing is such a big fear?

993

00:51:17,262 --> 00:51:21,622

I don't know, because like I I'm fine.

994

00:51:21,622 --> 00:51:22,782

It's like moderate.

995

00:51:22,782 --> 00:51:23,342

Yeah.

996

00:51:24,262 --> 00:51:27,462

But like it's kind of public speaking as well.

997

00:51:27,462 --> 00:51:30,822

Like I've had a fear of public speaking, but it's only gotten better.

998

00:51:30,822 --> 00:51:31,342

Yeah.

999

00:51:31,342 --> 00:51:32,662

Like it used to be a lot worse.

1000

00:51:32,662 --> 00:51:34,112

But like that thing, that's kind of.

1001

00:51:34,112 --> 00:51:35,716

that's the biggest fear for everybody.

1002

00:51:35,716 --> 00:51:36,628

I think it's public speaking.

1003

00:51:36,628 --> 00:51:37,429

Yeah.

1004

00:51:37,570 --> 00:51:38,931

And like it depends on what I'm doing.

1005

00:51:38,931 --> 00:51:42,692

Like if it's something, if I'm talking about something that I know well, it's fine.

1006

00:51:42,692 --> 00:51:48,535

But if it's like, I have to make something up on the spot, you know, but that fluctuates.

1007

00:51:48,535 --> 00:51:55,734

playing my saxophone, it's like I can have the piece of music right in front of me, but

it's just like, I'm scared of like criticism for it.

1008

00:51:55,734 --> 00:51:57,659

And just like, I don't know.

1009

00:51:57,659 --> 00:51:58,890

It is just my worst fear.

1010

00:51:58,890 --> 00:52:04,662

And I remember my middle school band director, was sitting down, I was doing this test.

1011

00:52:04,878 --> 00:52:08,138

And I was like, but he would make us play in front of the whole class.

1012

00:52:08,138 --> 00:52:10,198

Like the whole class, was like 50 kids.

1013

00:52:10,958 --> 00:52:13,278

And I broke down in tears playing.

1014

00:52:13,278 --> 00:52:16,838

Like I was sobbing, I was crying, it was not good.

1015

00:52:16,838 --> 00:52:19,118

I somehow finished the test, I'm not really sure.

1016

00:52:19,118 --> 00:52:24,518

My friends were like comforting me, but like the whole class was comforting me, which was

nice, also bad.

1017

00:52:25,258 --> 00:52:28,598

Anyway, so he's like, stay after class, I need to talk to you.

1018

00:52:28,598 --> 00:52:30,698

So I'm like, okay, this is just getting worse.

1019

00:52:30,698 --> 00:52:34,318

And he comes up to me, he's like, hey, you know, I got nervous.

1020

00:52:34,318 --> 00:52:39,986

When I was a kid, you know, playing too, it's like, don't worry, but I wouldn't get as

worried as you.

1021

00:52:40,118 --> 00:52:41,759

And then he kind of just sent me off to class.

1022

00:52:41,759 --> 00:52:42,190

I was like.

1023

00:52:42,190 --> 00:52:42,730

Great speech.

1024

00:52:42,730 --> 00:52:43,310

What did you say?

1025

00:52:43,310 --> 00:52:45,414

Thanks for

1026

00:52:45,812 --> 00:52:46,763

okay.

1027

00:52:47,617 --> 00:52:58,798

So I have a story about that I took piano lessons when I was a kid and then we had to have

a recital and The recital was like, you know in front of about you know, I don't know 30

1028

00:52:58,798 --> 00:53:02,338

40 people whatever it was and at this point I've been doing theater and stuff.

1029

00:53:02,338 --> 00:53:06,358

So it wasn't like I wasn't comfortable on stage or whatever.

1030

00:53:06,358 --> 00:53:17,222

Yeah, but like I Got up there and I was so nervous and I like completely had practiced so

many it's furlies, you know And I had practiced it so many times

1031

00:53:17,704 --> 00:53:22,520

And uh I just completely, once it got off the rails, it just went way off the rails.

1032

00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,962

And like, I had a meltdown.

1033

00:53:23,962 --> 00:53:25,783

Like I was like crying hysterically.

1034

00:53:25,783 --> 00:53:29,288

I was crying and I was like, so yeah, I can relate to that.

1035

00:53:29,288 --> 00:53:30,069

I will never forget that.

1036

00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:32,511

And then my parents pulled me out of the piano lessons.

1037

00:53:32,993 --> 00:53:34,654

Did you think of your favorite song?

1038

00:53:34,964 --> 00:53:37,906

Oh, well I was kinda still thinking the family opera thing.

1039

00:53:37,906 --> 00:53:39,026

the Phantom of the Opera, that was it?

1040

00:53:39,026 --> 00:53:40,146

Phantom of the Opera.

1041

00:53:41,646 --> 00:53:42,346

No, that's a good one.

1042

00:53:42,346 --> 00:53:42,906

That's a good one.

1043

00:53:42,906 --> 00:53:43,718

I forgot about that.

1044

00:53:43,718 --> 00:53:45,109

But it's not my favorite song.

1045

00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:47,096

mean, I don't think I have a favorite song of all time.

1046

00:53:47,096 --> 00:53:50,850

me one of these songs that's like a favorite that I would not probably know about.

1047

00:53:51,891 --> 00:53:53,233

Or maybe I would, I don't know.

1048

00:53:53,233 --> 00:53:54,526

I'm trying to stay hip.

1049

00:53:54,526 --> 00:53:56,251

Another one it's not my favorite song.

1050

00:53:56,251 --> 00:53:58,435

It's like Taylor Swift's new album.

1051

00:53:58,678 --> 00:53:59,720

I don't think it's your best one.

1052

00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:00,311

I don't know

1053

00:54:00,311 --> 00:54:04,886

She's kind of she's kind of just kind of drifting along doing the same kind of thing over

and over

1054

00:54:04,886 --> 00:54:10,392

I think, okay, this could be a hot take, but I think what she needs to do is she needs to

act her age.

1055

00:54:10,392 --> 00:54:21,224

And that sounds odd, but I feel like she's trying to act younger, like stay hip or

whatever, but I feel like she would be more popular if she played music that was her age,

1056

00:54:21,224 --> 00:54:22,606

that was like fit her.

1057

00:54:22,606 --> 00:54:24,926

And what kind of music do you think fits her?

1058

00:54:24,926 --> 00:54:26,830

Like she's about 30, 35 or something?

1059

00:54:26,830 --> 00:54:34,841

oh And like she's like still in the pop genre, which I think is good, but she also doweled

in country, you know I Think was good.

1060

00:54:34,841 --> 00:54:36,303

But like, know Adele.

1061

00:54:36,303 --> 00:54:37,484

Yeah, I feel like Adele.

1062

00:54:37,484 --> 00:54:39,977

It's a perfect example of people playing music.

1063

00:54:39,977 --> 00:54:41,249

That's their age.

1064

00:54:41,249 --> 00:54:42,100

Does that make sense?

1065

00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:42,613

It does.

1066

00:54:42,613 --> 00:54:43,490

Yeah.

1067

00:54:43,490 --> 00:54:44,660

Yeah.

1068

00:54:44,660 --> 00:54:47,342

It's the topics, I think more than anything that she's singing about.

1069

00:54:47,342 --> 00:54:50,690

And just like the way the the music is written and like, you know

1070

00:54:50,690 --> 00:54:53,529

I mean, she's trying to have a wide appeal and all these kind of things.

1071

00:54:53,529 --> 00:54:54,338

ah

1072

00:54:54,338 --> 00:54:56,374

I think it would be better if she played.

1073

00:54:56,374 --> 00:54:58,382

What's your favorite album of Taylor Swift?

1074

00:54:58,382 --> 00:54:59,676

oh That is a good question.

1075

00:54:59,676 --> 00:55:05,742

Yeah, I it changes I think I just like specific songs of hers rather than like the entire

album

1076

00:55:05,742 --> 00:55:06,112

agree.

1077

00:55:06,112 --> 00:55:08,093

I'm a song person and not an album person.

1078

00:55:08,093 --> 00:55:11,405

think there's two kinds of people in this world, which maybe your generation isn't as

much.

1079

00:55:11,405 --> 00:55:16,008

I think your generation is probably more much more song related because of way music is

distributed.

1080

00:55:16,008 --> 00:55:22,502

But like, yeah, I've always been more of like a highlight, you know, I'll watch baseball

highlights, but I won't watch the whole game.

1081

00:55:22,502 --> 00:55:26,925

I'll listen to one song, you know, uh, watch.

1082

00:55:26,925 --> 00:55:27,195

Right.

1083

00:55:27,195 --> 00:55:28,576

know you Yeah.

1084

00:55:28,576 --> 00:55:32,856

Um, but favorite, but I would go with 1989.

1085

00:55:32,856 --> 00:55:33,818

That's that's

1086

00:55:33,818 --> 00:55:37,226

was my entry point to her that was when I was like, this is good stuff

1087

00:55:37,226 --> 00:55:40,729

Yeah, um, I think her newer stuff has drifted a little bit.

1088

00:55:40,729 --> 00:55:49,147

Yeah, so I don't think it's her best quite boring But I do like folklore and ever more

they're like twin albums essentially those two albums I think those two are probably my

1089

00:55:49,147 --> 00:55:49,602

favorite

1090

00:55:49,602 --> 00:55:50,412

Huh, interesting.

1091

00:55:50,412 --> 00:55:51,723

Yeah, I think I like folklore.

1092

00:55:51,723 --> 00:56:00,545

think if that's the one with the song the one on it, which I think it is I think so

there's another version of that whole album that she recorded during kovat in like a

1093

00:56:00,545 --> 00:56:01,165

cabin.

1094

00:56:01,165 --> 00:56:10,198

just Yeah, yeah, that's really good um That I really like that's like maybe my favorite

thing because I think her music is a little overproduced sometimes and I feel like pairing

1095

00:56:10,198 --> 00:56:14,109

the songs down because some of the songs are well written It's just like they're

overproduced.

1096

00:56:14,109 --> 00:56:18,460

And anyway, yeah, we don't need to go down that I don't think Taylor's quisp and talk

about in podcasts enough.

1097

00:56:18,460 --> 00:56:19,342

So I think

1098

00:56:19,342 --> 00:56:22,382

Good we got it.

1099

00:56:22,502 --> 00:56:30,542

Now then we talks about Taylor Swift nearly enough Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what

she's doing when she's like 80 or something You know still singing shake it off or

1100

00:56:30,542 --> 00:56:33,356

something at that point on the stage barely able to walk and yeah

1101

00:56:33,356 --> 00:56:41,690

No, because like I'm gonna add on to what I said earlier with music that's more her age I

think she did was doing really well with like a word folklore like that slower more like

1102

00:56:41,690 --> 00:56:43,671

piano Yeah centered music.

1103

00:56:43,671 --> 00:56:49,560

I think that would be really good now and especially since like I don't think we're gonna

hear another breakup album soon like

1104

00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,321

Well, who knows?

1105

00:56:50,321 --> 00:56:50,742

don't know.

1106

00:56:50,742 --> 00:56:52,444

It's gonna be hard to be dating a football player.

1107

00:56:52,444 --> 00:56:56,059

We're right, but I mean, who knows how long?

1108

00:56:56,059 --> 00:56:56,830

Well, we'll see.

1109

00:56:56,830 --> 00:56:58,882

I hope for them the best.

1110

00:56:59,364 --> 00:57:01,987

I don't know much about Travis Kelce.

1111

00:57:02,829 --> 00:57:04,902

That's pretty much where I'm at, yeah.

1112

00:57:04,902 --> 00:57:06,724

And he's from Ohio, like Cleveland.

1113

00:57:06,724 --> 00:57:07,547

yeah.

1114

00:57:07,547 --> 00:57:10,354

I think he's a fan of the Guardians, I'm pretty sure.

1115

00:57:11,421 --> 00:57:12,319

He doesn't.

1116

00:57:12,319 --> 00:57:13,740

Yeah, and they have a podcast.

1117

00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:14,760

They do.

1118

00:57:15,380 --> 00:57:15,850

Who doesn't?

1119

00:57:15,850 --> 00:57:17,141

Everybody's got a podcast now.

1120

00:57:17,141 --> 00:57:19,282

um We're coming for you though.

1121

00:57:19,282 --> 00:57:20,803

We are Jeff is coming for you.

1122

00:57:20,803 --> 00:57:23,003

this is gonna, yeah.

1123

00:57:23,003 --> 00:57:26,665

We'll get Taylor Swift on here and that will make them get divorced.

1124

00:57:26,665 --> 00:57:29,396

then maybe I marry Taylor Swift.

1125

00:57:29,396 --> 00:57:30,457

Wouldn't that be a weird twist?

1126

00:57:30,457 --> 00:57:30,787

Yeah.

1127

00:57:30,787 --> 00:57:34,708

And then I bring Taylor Swift home for Christmas or something.

1128

00:57:34,708 --> 00:57:36,729

Yeah, she's tall too.

1129

00:57:36,729 --> 00:57:38,009

She's like my height.

1130

00:57:38,690 --> 00:57:39,833

Sure, I mean, I would hope so.

1131

00:57:39,833 --> 00:57:41,358

She's probably like mean about it.

1132

00:57:41,358 --> 00:57:44,596

She's probably like, um I don't sing when I'm not getting paid.

1133

00:57:45,740 --> 00:57:46,581

I'll

1134

00:57:47,286 --> 00:57:47,768

Right.

1135

00:57:47,768 --> 00:57:48,399

It's Christmas.

1136

00:57:48,399 --> 00:57:50,054

Can't you just sing a few Christmas songs, Taylor?

1137

00:57:50,054 --> 00:57:50,516

No.

1138

00:57:50,516 --> 00:57:51,439

No, I will not.

1139

00:57:51,439 --> 00:57:52,020

Who knows?

1140

00:57:52,020 --> 00:57:54,366

eh Hopefully she would.

1141

00:57:54,392 --> 00:57:58,926

Yeah, I never know what to think about slowries, because I never know which ones are like

genuine.

1142

00:57:58,926 --> 00:58:06,082

uh I think most of it is kind of uh like you can kind of guess but I feel like Yeah, it's

yeah

1143

00:58:06,082 --> 00:58:08,243

You know, I hate to be a celebrity.

1144

00:58:09,084 --> 00:58:16,346

Because like, there's a lot of attention, but like I don't want people making false, like,

assumptions about me.

1145

00:58:16,346 --> 00:58:17,447

Right and that's gonna happen.

1146

00:58:17,447 --> 00:58:25,490

I mean there's some celebrities out there who just don't really talk to the press or

anything and just avoid it Which I'd probably what I would do frankly because some people

1147

00:58:25,490 --> 00:58:35,504

really some people like, you know I think everybody's got like a Like something that

they're trying to fill in their in their soul, you know Some people are trying to fill it

1148

00:58:35,504 --> 00:58:35,944

with money.

1149

00:58:35,944 --> 00:58:43,127

Some people think if they get famous, they'll be happy some people blah blah blah blah But

ultimately, I don't think that any of these things will make you happy.

1150

00:58:43,127 --> 00:58:44,158

You got to work on yourself.

1151

00:58:44,158 --> 00:58:44,610

Yeah

1152

00:58:44,610 --> 00:58:47,936

That's my little mindfulness lesson for today.

1153

00:58:48,359 --> 00:58:48,802

C.

1154

00:58:48,802 --> 00:58:51,010

should make this podcast about mindfulness.

1155

00:58:51,010 --> 00:58:52,850

is quite a bit actually, if you've listened.

1156

00:58:52,850 --> 00:58:56,930

There's a lot of, I kind of interspersed and I've interviewed like yoga teachers and

stuff.

1157

00:58:56,930 --> 00:58:57,550

far so good.

1158

00:58:57,550 --> 00:58:57,750

Yeah.

1159

00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:58,930

Do you ever meditate?

1160

00:58:59,216 --> 00:59:00,798

I've mentioned probably once my

1161

00:59:00,798 --> 00:59:02,460

That's more than I had done it by your age.

1162

00:59:02,460 --> 00:59:12,008

So Yeah, but the overthinking brain Mia I recommend it, you know What just saying or yoga

you can do yoga too.

1163

00:59:12,008 --> 00:59:14,410

It's not good for me before have you?

1164

00:59:14,951 --> 00:59:22,979

Good for you Well, I mean if you've done it then you know what it is and you can go back

to it when you get older because I feel like maybe it's the thing that older people

1165

00:59:22,979 --> 00:59:25,738

be more like early 20s things for me.

1166

00:59:25,738 --> 00:59:27,408

uh

1167

00:59:27,408 --> 00:59:27,728

Yeah.

1168

00:59:27,728 --> 00:59:34,546

Well, it's more yoga than I had done at your age We didn't even really have I mean there

was it In general

1169

00:59:34,546 --> 00:59:35,486

Yeah, just like what?

1170

00:59:35,486 --> 00:59:36,594

I don't know.

1171

00:59:36,594 --> 00:59:37,855

sure.

1172

00:59:37,975 --> 00:59:41,157

Well, in school, I was very much an outcast.

1173

00:59:41,157 --> 00:59:46,881

Like middle school was terrible for me because I was very much like the nerd of the nerds.

1174

00:59:47,322 --> 00:59:53,386

Yeah, because I was in theater and there'd be pictures of me in the paper as dressed as

like Pinocchio, which was just not good for a social life.

1175

00:59:53,386 --> 00:59:57,068

um I had great friends at the theater.

1176

00:59:57,068 --> 00:59:58,689

You those are my those are my friends.

1177

00:59:58,689 --> 00:59:59,049

Yeah.

1178

00:59:59,049 --> 01:00:00,230

um

1179

01:00:00,460 --> 01:00:03,392

But yeah, I was doing theater stuff and then high school started off bad.

1180

01:00:03,392 --> 01:00:11,757

But then as I started to find my people and like mostly the theater crowd and the show

choir crowd, I really started to kind of fall into myself.

1181

01:00:11,757 --> 01:00:20,182

And by the end of high school, was like, I was the person that kind of everybody knew who

I was because I'd been in all the plays and blah, blah, blah, blah.

1182

01:00:20,182 --> 01:00:24,845

So nobody, yeah, so everybody was kind of, everybody was kind of nice to me and like me.

1183

01:00:24,845 --> 01:00:27,666

I was voted most likely to be, what was it?

1184

01:00:28,266 --> 01:00:39,380

I don't know it was rich and famous or if it was something else, but I was one of those

and I was voted wittiest Like funniest because I was yeah um Yeah, and beyond that like I

1185

01:00:39,380 --> 01:00:42,271

played some sports, but I never was very good sports.

1186

01:00:42,271 --> 01:00:50,194

I played soccer um And mostly because I think I mean I did enjoy it I think but mostly it

was my father's encouragement

1187

01:00:50,399 --> 01:00:52,457

sport you'd be rock climbing.

1188

01:00:52,672 --> 01:00:55,565

If I was a sport, I'd be rock climbing.

1189

01:00:57,008 --> 01:00:57,989

Interesting.

1190

01:00:57,989 --> 01:00:59,190

What would you be?

1191

01:00:59,882 --> 01:01:00,486

I don't know.

1192

01:01:00,486 --> 01:01:01,516

You tell me.

1193

01:01:01,516 --> 01:01:04,106

I don't know what that even means though.

1194

01:01:04,106 --> 01:01:05,486

Cause I have rock climbed.

1195

01:01:05,486 --> 01:01:06,198

Yeah.

1196

01:01:06,198 --> 01:01:07,159

Yeah.

1197

01:01:08,244 --> 01:01:09,706

It's like bouldering.

1198

01:01:10,183 --> 01:01:16,018

Do you know that that one thing in the Olympics last year where they just like try to go

at the Wallace Festival?

1199

01:01:16,018 --> 01:01:16,438

right, right, right.

1200

01:01:16,438 --> 01:01:17,198

Yeah, wall climbing.

1201

01:01:17,198 --> 01:01:17,458

Yeah.

1202

01:01:17,458 --> 01:01:18,878

Yeah, with the harness and everything.

1203

01:01:18,878 --> 01:01:18,918

Yeah.

1204

01:01:18,918 --> 01:01:20,678

Yeah, I've tried that.

1205

01:01:20,738 --> 01:01:22,720

Yeah, it's kind of fun, but it's kind of scary,

1206

01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,564

I did that but then I got to the top and I looked down and that wasn't a good idea.

1207

01:01:26,658 --> 01:01:26,958

Yeah.

1208

01:01:26,958 --> 01:01:27,638

It's so high.

1209

01:01:27,638 --> 01:01:28,418

Yeah, it is.

1210

01:01:28,418 --> 01:01:29,998

If I was a sport, I'd be rock climbing.

1211

01:01:29,998 --> 01:01:30,838

Interesting.

1212

01:01:31,018 --> 01:01:31,158

Yeah.

1213

01:01:31,158 --> 01:01:32,058

I mean, I bike more.

1214

01:01:32,058 --> 01:01:32,858

I'm a big biker.

1215

01:01:32,858 --> 01:01:34,418

So that's kind of a sport.

1216

01:01:34,418 --> 01:01:34,838

Yeah.

1217

01:01:34,838 --> 01:01:36,814

Or is that like a leisure activity in your mind?

1218

01:01:36,814 --> 01:01:40,854

Yeah, um, why they can pet like what level you're doing it at?

1219

01:01:40,854 --> 01:01:46,054

Hmm, you know cuz like you were just going through a stroll Going for a stroll through the

neighborhood.

1220

01:01:46,054 --> 01:01:47,034

I don't know.

1221

01:01:47,034 --> 01:01:52,846

That's just like a hobby But like if you're actually biking multiple miles and like yeah

pushing yourself.

1222

01:01:52,846 --> 01:01:56,206

Yeah, so I'm sporting I did 1,500 miles last year.

1223

01:01:56,206 --> 01:02:01,106

Yeah, this sure not so many but last year Yeah, I've been falling off the rocker off the

rocker.

1224

01:02:01,106 --> 01:02:01,906

What does that mean?

1225

01:02:01,906 --> 01:02:03,006

I don't know what that means.

1226

01:02:03,006 --> 01:02:06,126

We're just gonna disregard that Okay, I can edit that out.

1227

01:02:06,126 --> 01:02:10,854

Is there anything you wish people would ask you about that nobody ever asks you about?

1228

01:02:11,150 --> 01:02:18,473

I don't know, but I feel like I know a lot of people, but there are certain things that

people just don't know about me.

1229

01:02:18,473 --> 01:02:21,214

It's not something you're like, hey, do you do this?

1230

01:02:21,214 --> 01:02:23,990

That's not a question that you'd ask normal people.

1231

01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:31,997

a lot of people don't know I'm a figure skater, or yeah, or a lot of people don't know

that I am a huge baseball fan.

1232

01:02:31,997 --> 01:02:34,188

But it's not a question you'd ask.

1233

01:02:34,274 --> 01:02:35,868

how often do figure skates?

1234

01:02:36,078 --> 01:02:41,070

I've kind of lost it recently, oh but like, yeah.

1235

01:02:41,070 --> 01:02:43,936

I mean, it would be like world's first week.

1236

01:02:43,936 --> 01:02:44,686

wow.

1237

01:02:44,768 --> 01:02:47,226

Yeah, you know my sister did that was a big figure skater.

1238

01:02:47,226 --> 01:02:51,454

should tell her that next time we'll see Mitch at the clan bay because she'll be

interested in that

1239

01:02:51,454 --> 01:02:59,494

did not know that about her like you just don't know if someone's a figure skater unless

is there cuz like that's the thing figure skating is hard for me because You have to

1240

01:02:59,494 --> 01:03:10,234

devote yourself to it generally like you have to You have to put in the work and do it or

else you just kind of stall yours at this Yeah, that's where I was for a while and now I'm

1241

01:03:10,234 --> 01:03:12,910

taking break from it I hopes you go back to it soon, but

1242

01:03:12,910 --> 01:03:15,689

I feel like it's the kind of thing you can go back to whenever you want, in a way.

1243

01:03:15,918 --> 01:03:18,780

Cause if you're not doing it constantly, you lose procs.

1244

01:03:18,870 --> 01:03:21,973

Right and there's no figure skating team at your school now.

1245

01:03:21,973 --> 01:03:22,853

No.

1246

01:03:23,914 --> 01:03:24,775

Yeah.

1247

01:03:24,775 --> 01:03:25,395

Yeah.

1248

01:03:25,395 --> 01:03:28,207

And what about the um the baseball?

1249

01:03:28,207 --> 01:03:29,398

How did that happen?

1250

01:03:29,580 --> 01:03:33,289

I mean just like growing up, you know my dad always having it on I just

1251

01:03:33,346 --> 01:03:35,132

When did you first start to really get into it?

1252

01:03:35,132 --> 01:03:35,766

would you remember?

1253

01:03:35,766 --> 01:03:37,699

Like a year or two ago, three years ago?

1254

01:03:38,825 --> 01:03:39,685

Yeah.

1255

01:03:39,950 --> 01:03:43,850

It's like, don't really enjoy watching any other sports, unless like the Olympics.

1256

01:03:43,850 --> 01:03:45,090

I love the Olympics.

1257

01:03:45,450 --> 01:03:48,812

But like, I don't really watch any other sports, just baseball.

1258

01:03:48,812 --> 01:03:56,059

Yeah, baseball, I don't really watch much of it unless it's like an important game because

it kind of is a very long boring game in my mind.

1259

01:03:56,059 --> 01:03:57,510

Yeah.

1260

01:03:57,510 --> 01:04:04,116

But your dad, of course, is the biggest baseball fan of anybody I think I ever know or

will know.

1261

01:04:04,116 --> 01:04:04,517

Yeah.

1262

01:04:04,517 --> 01:04:06,094

He really likes the baseball.

1263

01:04:06,094 --> 01:04:08,419

I definitely get that from him and we both enjoy it.

1264

01:04:08,419 --> 01:04:10,342

um

1265

01:04:10,458 --> 01:04:13,528

Well, he probably helps you understand it better so you can appreciate it more.

1266

01:04:13,528 --> 01:04:15,819

But it's like I'm trying to get my friends into it.

1267

01:04:15,819 --> 01:04:17,890

Like it's a tough one.

1268

01:04:17,890 --> 01:04:21,011

But I, they definitely have latched on a little bit.

1269

01:04:21,011 --> 01:04:23,943

Like my one friend, I got her to watch the world series.

1270

01:04:23,943 --> 01:04:28,445

um Or she did it all on her own.

1271

01:04:28,445 --> 01:04:30,986

mean her dad is also a baseball fan.

1272

01:04:31,534 --> 01:04:33,114

And Guardians are your team, I would imagine.

1273

01:04:33,114 --> 01:04:33,934

Yes.

1274

01:04:35,914 --> 01:04:37,494

Yeah, I've never been a fan.

1275

01:04:37,494 --> 01:04:38,914

Never been a fan of the Reds.

1276

01:04:38,914 --> 01:04:42,002

But I know, I feel like a lot of people from the club are Reds fans.

1277

01:04:42,002 --> 01:04:43,670

But it's big crowd.

1278

01:04:43,670 --> 01:04:47,054

Yeah, I think mostly it's an Ohio State University thing.

1279

01:04:48,497 --> 01:04:54,836

Really just love and I don't you know, I root for the team, you know, but it's not

exciting because they win every game.

1280

01:04:54,836 --> 01:04:57,629

So what what where's the excitement in that to me?

1281

01:04:57,750 --> 01:05:01,871

I'm just because like like my mom's deep family history with Ohio State.

1282

01:05:01,871 --> 01:05:02,742

Yeah

1283

01:05:02,806 --> 01:05:07,145

Yeah, and my dad went here there and my sister went there.

1284

01:05:07,145 --> 01:05:08,076

Yeah, so,

1285

01:05:08,076 --> 01:05:10,614

My uncle has a national championship ring.

1286

01:05:10,614 --> 01:05:12,338

Right, right, that's crazy.

1287

01:05:12,338 --> 01:05:16,595

And your great, your grandfather, think, was the marching band guy?

1288

01:05:16,595 --> 01:05:17,226

Yeah.

1289

01:05:17,226 --> 01:05:18,127

Yeah.

1290

01:05:19,150 --> 01:05:20,353

There's a lot of connections to it.

1291

01:05:20,353 --> 01:05:22,477

Yeah, your mom said the family's real connected to that school.

1292

01:05:22,477 --> 01:05:22,797

Yeah.

1293

01:05:22,797 --> 01:05:22,934

Yeah.

1294

01:05:22,934 --> 01:05:23,512

oh

1295

01:05:23,512 --> 01:05:28,400

Mike grandpa he was on the one of the teams that won the national championship.

1296

01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:29,201

wow for baseball.

1297

01:05:29,201 --> 01:05:31,654

So wow I

1298

01:05:31,906 --> 01:05:32,650

Wow.

1299

01:05:32,650 --> 01:05:33,041

Wow.

1300

01:05:33,041 --> 01:05:33,635

Yeah.

1301

01:05:33,635 --> 01:05:34,499

I wonder, they playing?

1302

01:05:34,499 --> 01:05:36,255

I think they're playing right now, aren't they?

1303

01:05:36,613 --> 01:05:38,185

oh, yeah.

1304

01:05:38,913 --> 01:05:40,430

I'm sure they're winning, I mean...

1305

01:05:40,430 --> 01:05:43,430

There was a 97 % chance they won.

1306

01:05:44,078 --> 01:05:47,621

Yeah, they win every game until towards the end then they start to lose a game or two.

1307

01:05:47,621 --> 01:06:00,429

uh Yeah, yeah Yeah, and people really like I remember When they if they lose a big game

the entire town feels like it's deflated.

1308

01:06:00,769 --> 01:06:01,806

It's really strange

1309

01:06:01,806 --> 01:06:04,206

Especially Living Beer Ohio State.

1310

01:06:04,366 --> 01:06:06,706

It's like you see it a lot.

1311

01:06:06,806 --> 01:06:08,129

The X's over the L's.

1312

01:06:08,129 --> 01:06:09,040

man.

1313

01:06:09,361 --> 01:06:15,445

Yeah, it's very, I didn't even know what that X over the thing was for my first two years

here and I would see it everywhere and I'd be like, what's going on here?

1314

01:06:15,445 --> 01:06:20,399

And then I'd be like, oh, then I saw it in the news and I was like, my goodness, people

are really putting effort into this.

1315

01:06:20,399 --> 01:06:22,080

Gonna cross up all the M's.

1316

01:06:22,126 --> 01:06:23,652

It's like a grade into us.

1317

01:06:23,652 --> 01:06:26,141

Like if you're born here or just like, you know, go to Ohio State.

1318

01:06:26,141 --> 01:06:26,865

Right.

1319

01:06:26,865 --> 01:06:27,572

It's a big thing.

1320

01:06:27,572 --> 01:06:29,364

Yeah, it's unusual.

1321

01:06:29,364 --> 01:06:30,665

Yeah.

1322

01:06:30,665 --> 01:06:31,546

I like the band.

1323

01:06:31,546 --> 01:06:37,191

always keep wanting to go see one of those skull sessions just because I love the loud,

but I haven't done it.

1324

01:06:37,191 --> 01:06:38,182

But I do enjoy the band.

1325

01:06:38,182 --> 01:06:40,654

One of the best marching bands in the entire world.

1326

01:06:40,654 --> 01:06:41,546

They're very good.

1327

01:06:41,546 --> 01:06:43,919

I know a bunch of people who've been in the band.

1328

01:06:44,419 --> 01:06:45,992

Yeah, it's very hard to get into that band.

1329

01:06:45,992 --> 01:06:51,892

There's a documentary on YouTube about how to get in, how to get like about getting into

the band.

1330

01:06:51,892 --> 01:06:52,466

was really interesting.

1331

01:06:52,466 --> 01:06:54,650

crazy, I know like four people who've been in the van.

1332

01:06:54,650 --> 01:06:55,331

Right.

1333

01:06:55,331 --> 01:06:59,155

It was also like rehearsals for the guy who like has to do the baton thing.

1334

01:06:59,656 --> 01:07:03,280

Yeah, which was a big one because they have to do all sorts of crazy stuff with that

baton.

1335

01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:04,322

Yeah.

1336

01:07:04,322 --> 01:07:04,920

Yeah.

1337

01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,032

We had a good drum major for our high school.

1338

01:07:07,032 --> 01:07:08,608

I mean, he would use like fire.

1339

01:07:08,854 --> 01:07:11,395

Oh they would let them do that at the high school?

1340

01:07:11,395 --> 01:07:12,596

That's crazy.

1341

01:07:13,517 --> 01:07:14,715

Wow, that's pretty cool.

1342

01:07:14,715 --> 01:07:15,756

They should do that all the time.

1343

01:07:15,756 --> 01:07:16,678

I that's exciting.

1344

01:07:16,678 --> 01:07:17,439

I know, it is cool.

1345

01:07:17,439 --> 01:07:20,540

I would go see more sports if they had fire, you know?

1346

01:07:21,321 --> 01:07:24,122

Flaming baseballs, I see all sorts of great ideas here.

1347

01:07:24,654 --> 01:07:26,494

Yeah, I guess I never really thought about that.

1348

01:07:26,494 --> 01:07:28,054

you could do all sorts of things.

1349

01:07:28,254 --> 01:07:28,854

Yeah.

1350

01:07:29,014 --> 01:07:29,834

All right, Mia.

1351

01:07:29,834 --> 01:07:35,254

Well, do you have anything else to say to to my audience here?

1352

01:07:35,254 --> 01:07:35,854

I think so.

1353

01:07:35,854 --> 01:07:37,394

Before we wrap it up?

1354

01:07:37,394 --> 01:07:37,932

No.

1355

01:07:37,932 --> 01:07:41,068

I I'm good, I just think I should say that I should come back again.

1356

01:07:41,324 --> 01:07:43,817

Okay, yes, you can come back again for sure.

1357

01:07:43,817 --> 01:07:46,220

I might try to get your brother on too.

1358

01:07:46,220 --> 01:07:47,983

I think that would be interesting.

1359

01:07:47,983 --> 01:07:51,136

I think it'd be interesting, He'd be asking all the questions.

1360

01:07:51,776 --> 01:07:54,640

I would I'd be very interested to yeah, I like coffee.

1361

01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,058

I just like sit no

1362

01:07:56,058 --> 01:08:01,671

No, that's that's why that's why I want to do it cuz I can't know you can't you can hear

it afterwards You can't sit in the room.

1363

01:08:01,671 --> 01:08:02,282

Yeah.

1364

01:08:02,282 --> 01:08:11,697

Yeah, you understand though No, it'll come out though, I don't I don't live stream yet I

don't live stream uh Mia thank you for coming on my podcast.

1365

01:08:11,697 --> 01:08:12,517

I really appreciate it.

1366

01:08:12,517 --> 01:08:21,933

I'm so happy that you did this so and look at this I remember talking to you about at the

baseball game and then five months go by and here we are Yeah, yeah, I love you.

1367

01:08:21,933 --> 01:08:24,439

Thank you for coming to the podcast Thanks

1368

01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,765

you very much for having me.

1369

01:08:26,765 --> 01:08:27,150

You got it.

1370

01:08:27,150 --> 01:08:27,797

You got it.

1371

01:08:27,797 --> 01:08:28,905

I got it out.

1372

01:08:31,886 --> 01:08:33,206

And that was Mia.

1373

01:08:33,807 --> 01:08:36,467

Thank you again for coming on, Mia.

1374

01:08:36,467 --> 01:08:39,588

It was a real joy for me and hopefully for you as well.

1375

01:08:39,588 --> 01:08:47,950

And if it was a joy for you, the listener, I'm pointing to you, but you can't see me,

please share this episode with somebody else who might enjoy it.

1376

01:08:47,950 --> 01:08:49,350

Maybe your cousin.

1377

01:08:49,391 --> 01:08:51,631

Maybe your first cousin once removed.

1378

01:08:51,631 --> 01:08:54,192

Maybe your first cousin twice removed.

1379

01:08:54,212 --> 01:08:55,092

Is that a thing?

1380

01:08:55,092 --> 01:08:55,972

I don't know.

1381

01:08:55,972 --> 01:08:57,953

Anyway, share it with somebody you know.

1382

01:08:57,953 --> 01:08:59,443

Share it with somebody you love.

1383

01:08:59,650 --> 01:09:03,913

because sharing is caring and sharing also helps podcasts like this grow.

1384

01:09:03,913 --> 01:09:12,339

If you have any feedback on this or any other episode, or you just want to say hello, you

can email the podcast at [email protected].

1385

01:09:12,339 --> 01:09:13,579

I'll write back.

1386

01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:22,966

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to the Patreon page at patreon.com/onefjef.

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You'll get access to some amazing extra bonus episodes and some photos and who knows what

else.

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and you'll also make me very happy.

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And I'll leave you today with a short poem by Rumi, which he wrote in his parents'

basement instead of taking out the garbage.

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I said, what about my eyes?

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He said, keep them on the road.

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I said, what about my passion?

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He said, keep it burning.

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I said, what about my heart?

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He said, tell me what you hold inside it.

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I said, pain and sorrow.

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He said, stay with it.

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The wound is the place where the light enters you.

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I'll see you soon.