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True Romance exemplifies the profound complexities of love entwined with chaos and violence. In our discussion, we delve into the intricate dynamics between the protagonists, Clarence and Alabama, who navigate a tumultuous world rife with danger and deceit. The episode explores the pivotal moments that define their relationship, particularly how their love is tested by external forces and personal choices. Through incisive analysis, we highlight the film's thematic richness, juxtaposing the romantic ideal against a backdrop of moral ambiguity. As we dissect the narrative structure and character development, we invite listeners to reflect on the nature of true love amidst adversity and the choices that ultimately shape our destinies.
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The dialogue unfolds with a vivid examination of themes encapsulated within the cinematic masterpiece, True Romance. The discussion revolves around the intricacies of character development, particularly through the lens of the protagonists, Clarence and Alabama. Their dynamic is scrutinized, revealing a profound exploration of love amidst chaos and violence. The speakers delve into the narrative structure, identifying pivotal moments that shape the trajectory of the characters' journey, including the concept of fate and choice within the context of their romantic entanglement. This analysis not only highlights the screenplay's brilliance but also emphasizes the film's cultural relevance in depicting the complexities of relationships in a tumultuous world.
Takeaways:
- The podcast discusses the intricate narrative structure of 'True Romance', emphasizing its effective pacing and character development over its runtime.
- Listeners are introduced to the thematic contrasts present in 'True Romance', particularly the juxtaposition of love and violence throughout the film.
- The speakers reflect on the performances of the cast, noting how Gary Oldman's portrayal of Drexel is a standout moment in the film, despite his brief screen time.
- A significant discussion revolves around the film's influence on the genre, highlighting how it integrates elements of romance with classic action tropes, creating a unique viewing experience.
- The podcast also explores the historical context of the film's release and its reception, considering how it has gained a cult following over the years since its initial screening.
- Listeners are encouraged to appreciate the film's screenplay, written by Quentin Tarantino, for its witty dialogue and engaging character interactions that drive the plot forward.
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Speaker A:I think this series has gone off the rails on more than one occasion.
Speaker B:All of his, like, I felt like all the exposition was very, very tight.
Speaker B:Well done.
Speaker C:Does William Shatner know that he's not a captain of a starship?
Speaker D:That's like Ricky Bobby.
Speaker D:He's covering his bases.
Speaker A:Same with Tom Cruise, you know.
Speaker C:Yeah, go ahead and say it, Phil.
Speaker C:Put it in the trailer.
Speaker D:It's like, once you start it, it's like.
Speaker D:Okay, I gotta see where this is going.
Speaker B:Yeah, I like the.
Speaker B:Of the movie a lot.
Speaker A:That was the weakest part of that scene.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker C:That's a.
Speaker C:That's an emotional swing for 24, 48 hours.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Fellowship of the Real four friends in the movie.
Speaker A:We are going to do true romance first.
Speaker A:That is our review for this time and we're gonna let Cherry do her notable quotables.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Hold on, Cherry, let me.
Speaker A:There you.
Speaker A:All right, Sherry.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker A:I read all you.
Speaker D:I did this like at 3 or 4 o' clock in the morning.
Speaker A:Oh, boy.
Speaker D:And all I could find was my bill to write them anyway.
Speaker B:Got up early or still up?
Speaker D:No, I woke up.
Speaker D:I woke up at that time.
Speaker D:All right.
Speaker B:Phil was snoring.
Speaker B:And instead of smothering on the pillow, you decided to be productive?
Speaker D:Well, I had to turn on the news for a minute and I said, oh, well, I better do this first.
Speaker C:Yeah, okay.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker D:Now, these are old movies, but in kind of relation to this, this movie that we're talking about, it's.
Speaker D:It's like the last line, a character speaks before they kill someone or someone dies.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker D:It's kind of a, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:One liners?
Speaker D:Yeah, but it's kind of like, you know, do you feel lucky, punk?
Speaker D:You know, that kind of thing.
Speaker A:I think they're called finishing lines or something.
Speaker D:Yes, that's what I think.
Speaker D:That's what it was.
Speaker D:I think it was finishing lines.
Speaker D:It kind of reminded me of this movie.
Speaker D:This is kind of crazy.
Speaker D:All right, anyway.
Speaker D:All right, the first.
Speaker D:I mean, these are old.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:You're a disease and I'm the cure.
Speaker B:That's Cobra, okay?
Speaker A:Cobra.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker D:I figured he might know that.
Speaker A:He knew that right away.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:God, I would never.
Speaker A:I've.
Speaker A:I've seen Cobra, but I would not have like.
Speaker D:I bet Chris knows this.
Speaker A:Good God, Chris.
Speaker C:I swear that was.
Speaker A:Hit the.
Speaker C:Hit the thing hit.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's getting a couple on this.
Speaker A:So let's do.
Speaker A:Let's do this.
Speaker C:No hesitation.
Speaker A:No Holy.
Speaker D:That was Stallone, right?
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:I watched Crap out of that when I was like, you know, that was a home run.
Speaker A:Yeah, he's.
Speaker A:Louise.
Speaker D:If I can't get him with this one, then.
Speaker D:Okay, so these others might be easy.
Speaker D:I don't know.
Speaker D:All right, get off my plane.
Speaker C:Air Force One.
Speaker A:Oh, my God, I'm failing.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:That was Larry Oldman.
Speaker C:He was thrown out.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Gary Oldman's in True Romance for a minute.
Speaker D:Okay, now this one.
Speaker D:I've never seen this movie, so I. I just have to go with what I heard and saw.
Speaker D:Do you believe in Jesus?
Speaker D:Well, then you are going to meet him.
Speaker B:Oh, that's so familiar.
Speaker D:It's old.
Speaker D:And I can give you a hint.
Speaker B:Do you believe in Jesus?
Speaker B:You're gonna meet him.
Speaker B:I've heard that.
Speaker D:The title.
Speaker D:Two.
Speaker D:I mean, you know the title and then two.
Speaker B:Oh, that's Young Guns, too.
Speaker D:No, no.
Speaker B:You're saying that.
Speaker B:But it has a two in the title.
Speaker D:Yes, there was a one, and then this is two.
Speaker D:Do you.
Speaker D:It's.
Speaker D:I mean, it's old.
Speaker C:No idea.
Speaker D:Do you believe in Jesus?
Speaker A:Well, you.
Speaker D:I think you are going to meet him.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker D:Do you want me to tell you who said it?
Speaker D:Yeah, I think.
Speaker D:I think his last name.
Speaker D:Is it Bronson?
Speaker C:Old Charlie?
Speaker B:Death Wish 2?
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I wouldn't have got it without the.
Speaker A:No, no, no.
Speaker A:I. I don't.
Speaker A:I'm not even sure I've ever seen Death Wish 2.
Speaker B:I. I don't think I haven't.
Speaker D:I haven't seen that.
Speaker B:Me.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, I think I've seen it.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:So that's what I have.
Speaker A:Well, I'm over three on that.
Speaker C:Go hard mode.
Speaker B:That's interesting.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:So we.
Speaker B:We talked about Air Force One, right.
Speaker B:And that was Gary Oldman getting thrown off.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then we referenced him about being in this movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:He calls Slater Charlie Bronson in this movie.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker B:Then you had a Charlie Bronson quote.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker D:So it fit better than I thought it did.
Speaker C:Okay, well, that was good.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Chris is wrapping them up, so.
Speaker B:Well, I didn't do it.
Speaker B:Sure, he did it.
Speaker D:No, no, no.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker D:No, no, but him.
Speaker D:I. I had no clue.
Speaker A:I mean, I. I didn't think of that until he just said it, though.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Y' all all can now talk about connections.
Speaker A:We can.
Speaker A:We'll talk about this as we talk about each movie.
Speaker A:And I didn't occur to me while I was watching the movies, it occurred to me, like, this morning, as I'm getting ready or Whatever.
Speaker A:I guess I'll wait till we talk about the theme stated, though, because it'll make more sense there.
Speaker A:So I don't want to get ahead of ourselves.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So, Jay, that was good.
Speaker A:You kicked my butt on that.
Speaker A:All right, so you know what?
Speaker A:I didn't.
Speaker A:I didn't print out.
Speaker A:I completely forgot to do money.
Speaker A:Critics, fans.
Speaker A:On either one of these movies.
Speaker C:We hadn't hit it yet.
Speaker A:No, I know, but I don't have the.
Speaker A:I don't even know.
Speaker C:Oh, you didn't do the.
Speaker A:I didn't do the homework.
Speaker D:Well, just follow it up.
Speaker B:Yeah, just do Box Office Mojo or something.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Good God.
Speaker A:Well, edit these pauses.
Speaker A:I. Wow.
Speaker C:You were.
Speaker C:You were so invested in watching the movies and getting all the beats down, I guess.
Speaker A:Well, I did that, you know, yesterday.
Speaker C:I mean, on IMDb it's got a 7.9 out of 10.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Most of the ratings are about an 8 or 9, so.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, I was gonna say I said box up with Mojo, but you do Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker A:Yeah, I do Rotten Tomatoes for the.
Speaker A:I'm on.
Speaker C:I'm on IMDb, so.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:0.9 out of 10, you said, right?
Speaker C:About a 7.9.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker C:True romance budget estimated 13 million.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Gross worldwide, right.
Speaker C:At 13.09.
Speaker C:4 million.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:It should have gotten more than that.
Speaker B:It's one of those that picked up steam after, like, I think.
Speaker A:I think so.
Speaker A:I didn't see it.
Speaker B:Way more popular now.
Speaker B:Yeah, I didn't either.
Speaker B:Way more popular now than it.
Speaker C:This one really took off with home.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's where I. Yeah, that's where I got it.
Speaker C:I was going to ask.
Speaker C:Yeah, when did you guys first see it?
Speaker C:Because you're going to be interested in my answer.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:First time you guys saw it in the theater at home?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It was not a theater for sure.
Speaker B:Must have rented it or, you know.
Speaker D:What year did it be?
Speaker B:93.
Speaker D:Oh, we probably had it on VHS.
Speaker D:I mean, rented it.
Speaker B:I owned it on VHS at one point.
Speaker B:I know that.
Speaker C:Were you.
Speaker C:Was this the first.
Speaker C:Had you seen a Tarantino movie before you saw this one?
Speaker C:Like, did you watch Part Fiction, Reservoir Dogs and be like, oh, he wrote.
Speaker B:Well, I don't think I was aware that he wrote it.
Speaker B:Probably the first time I saw it for sure, but.
Speaker B:But I don't spend too long.
Speaker B:I don't remember which one I saw first.
Speaker A:I don't know if I saw Tarantino move before this.
Speaker A:At some point, I must have forgotten or didn't know that he.
Speaker A:He wrote it.
Speaker A:Because I always have walked around saying, yeah, true Romance.
Speaker A:It's like the best non.
Speaker A:Tarantino.
Speaker A:Tarantino movie.
Speaker A:And then we watched it this time, and right there it says, written by Tarantino.
Speaker A:And I'm like, oh, shit, that explains it.
Speaker A:Now, he didn't direct it.
Speaker A:To me, it seems like this was a script he wrote and stuck in a drawer and someone wanted to make a movie.
Speaker A:I got this.
Speaker A:Like, he.
Speaker A:If.
Speaker A:If this is Tarantino's throwaway stuff, you know?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Because I love this movie.
Speaker B:Other people just need to quit.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, this is.
Speaker C:This is one that, according to the trivia or whatever, he sold this script and then he bought the red convertible that.
Speaker C:Because that's his car that ends up in Pulp Fiction that John Travolta drives.
Speaker B:Oh, nice.
Speaker C:That's Quentin Tarantino's car that he got from Brighton.
Speaker A:True Romance.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Money that he used.
Speaker A:That's crazy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I just didn't know if he could just talk about.
Speaker B:Just had it in a drawer.
Speaker B:Like, I didn't know.
Speaker B:Like, I don't know all of his story, I guess.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Did he have to sell the script to then kind of get his foot in the door to.
Speaker B:That led to Reservoir Dogs and Bolt?
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:So, I mean, because he wrote it and then didn't direct it, which is strange.
Speaker A:Rare.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Definitely.
Speaker C:This is early.
Speaker C:Early.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's not.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, was 93, 94.
Speaker B:Well, I was thinking everything was after, but I guess Reservoir was before.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It was like 92, I think.
Speaker B:Unless it was the same year.
Speaker B:Because fiction was 94 and the reservoir was only before.
Speaker C:Well, that might have been why they green lit this one with Tony Scott to direct it.
Speaker C:And the whole cast is because they're like, oh, this guy wrote a thing that's successful.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker B:Maybe that.
Speaker A:More.
Speaker C:I'd be interested to see that timeline.
Speaker C:I mean, obviously that kind of my job to look up that timeline, but I'm a.
Speaker C:So the funny thing is this was the first time I've ever seen this movie.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker C:I went and bought it, did not own it, and had never seen it.
Speaker B:You'd heard of it before?
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, I've heard of it.
Speaker B:And you knew going into it Tarantino had written it and all that stuff.
Speaker C:I knew Tarantino.
Speaker B:Never seen it.
Speaker C:I knew Oldman was in it.
Speaker C:I knew Christian Slater and the whole thing.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:No, I'm definitely interested in here.
Speaker B:Not that I wasn't before James, but I'm way more intrigued.
Speaker B:Your take now.
Speaker B:Me?
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I thought everybody had kind of seen.
Speaker A:This, so I asked Rock.
Speaker A:When did Tarantino write the script?
Speaker A:True Romance.
Speaker A: cript for true romance around: Speaker A:1988.
Speaker A:In his mid-20s, working at video Archives, a video rental store in Manhattan Beach, California.
Speaker A:The script was initially part of a much longer screenplay that included elements of what later became Natural Born Killers.
Speaker A: ld the True romance script in: Speaker A:While exact dates for the writing process on Ricky is generally pegged in the late 80s, based on his own accounts and industry reports.
Speaker A:So when did Reservoir Dogs come out?
Speaker A:Because that was after.
Speaker B:I thought it was.
Speaker C:I thought it was 92.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So this.
Speaker A:He wrote this and say 87, 88.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The movie didn't come out on 93, but he wrote the story first and then.
Speaker A:And sold a 50 grand.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I guess because Reservoir Dogs is very low key.
Speaker A:I mean, essentially a single room story, that's why he.
Speaker C:He, I guess demanded that he was able to direct it.
Speaker C:He kept it so small, said no to the budget, so he could keep Reservoir Dogs, that kind of thing.
Speaker C:So he could direct it.
Speaker C:All right, this one, I mean, hell, Tony Scott, dude, if you don't see the.
Speaker C:The Beverly Hills Cop.
Speaker C:Beverly Hills Cop 2.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, Tony Scott directed those.
Speaker C:Yeah, like this had that man on fire.
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:I would.
Speaker C:I would have.
Speaker B:You could say domino down the road.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like you can tell it's Domino.
Speaker B:I like Tony Scott.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I would have to say that Tony Scott is probably the best director for a Tarantino story.
Speaker C:Like that shootout later.
Speaker A:Yeah, like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Tony Scott.
Speaker C:Hell yeah.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker A:And plus the amount of.
Speaker A:Amount of blood.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:Is Tarantino.
Speaker C:But had.
Speaker C:Because Tarantino wasn't there yet.
Speaker C:Like, you look at Django Unchained and that kind of bloodshed.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:I don't think Tarantino was that bill.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:But Tony Scott was the director for that time.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Make it happen.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Well, yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Okay, so Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker A:This is encouraging me.
Speaker A:A near perfect movie.
Speaker A:93 critics, 93 fans percent, both neck and neck.
Speaker A:So this is right up there with Aliens.
Speaker A:I think aliens was 93.
Speaker A:94% for critics and fans, which was to.
Speaker A:To this date is our highest reviewed or money critics, fans reviewed movie.
Speaker A:This is probably number two now because it's constriction.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:93% tomato meter.
Speaker A:93% popcorn meter.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I wouldn't have predicted That I wouldn't have either.
Speaker A:But I watched this movie and it completely held up to me.
Speaker A:Like I loved it as much as the first time I saw it, you know, anyway.
Speaker A:Which I guess ruins our past.
Speaker A:Consider recommend.
Speaker C:Well, I mean, I think with a score like 93.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:90S.
Speaker C:I think we know where we're going to end.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So money, money, Craigs fans, was a bit of a disaster this time.
Speaker A:Are we ready for the Beats?
Speaker A:Anything else we want to say before we get into it?
Speaker C:Let's kick it off.
Speaker A:Let's kick it off.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Money.
Speaker A:The Beats.
Speaker B:Oh, wait.
Speaker A:Good.
Speaker B:Sorry, what was the.
Speaker B:You said the box office.
Speaker B:Gross.
Speaker B:13.
Speaker A:13.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then gross.
Speaker B:Okay, you said that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Which barely made money.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Which is.
Speaker B:Yeah, all right.
Speaker A:An injustice, in my opinion, but I think its life came after because it has consistently been popular.
Speaker A:Anybody, essentially anybody who sees this movie loves it based on 93.
Speaker A:And 93 is.
Speaker C:Or do they love it?
Speaker C:Stay tuned to find out.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Let's see.
Speaker A:Hold on.
Speaker A:Let me look at.
Speaker A:Let me just check something real.
Speaker C:You gotta get to drop those teasers in there.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I'll edit this pause out.
Speaker D:I can sing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So it is number two, Aliens.
Speaker B:This idea every time there's like an awkward pause that you have to edit out.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:She'll just start singing Nickelback.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:When you're listening, I can still edit that out.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So aliens edited out was 94 and 94.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Near perfect Movie critics and fans love the out of it.
Speaker A:And true romance is 93 and 93.
Speaker A:So those are our top two near perfect movies as far as fans and critics agreeing.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So before we start, let me just add.
Speaker A:I was wondering when I was gonna ask this question.
Speaker A:I was gonna wait till the end, but I might forget.
Speaker A:And I'm thinking of it now.
Speaker A:Sherry and I were watching this and we came to the conclusion almost the exact same time.
Speaker A:Elvis in this movie.
Speaker A:What do we know about him?
Speaker B:You mean the Elvis?
Speaker D:Not the real Elvis.
Speaker A:No, no, the guy.
Speaker C:The guy playing Val Kilmer.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Val Kilmer.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:You knew that or.
Speaker B:I did.
Speaker B:I did.
Speaker B:Like, not probably around times.
Speaker B:I saw it for.
Speaker B:I knew that, but definitely knew it this time.
Speaker B:And I've known it for a while.
Speaker B:But yeah, I saw it several times for you.
Speaker B:Shit.
Speaker B:That's okay.
Speaker B:I think I read it somewhere.
Speaker B:I don't think.
Speaker B:I don't think it's clear in the movie.
Speaker B:Tell.
Speaker B:It's him.
Speaker A:We were watching it.
Speaker A:I mean, y'.
Speaker B:All figured that out, I guess, but.
Speaker A:And it wasn't until.
Speaker B:Read it somewhere later on.
Speaker A:Well, it wasn't until the bathroom scene just before the big shootout at the end.
Speaker A:And you can.
Speaker A:He's all been blur.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But he stands there and he turns and he's facing the camera, but he's all in blur.
Speaker A:And I said, that's Val Kilmer.
Speaker A:Well.
Speaker A:And I had no idea if I was right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Well, I sat there and I said, I wonder who that is.
Speaker D:And you said, I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker D:And then I said, it kind of looks like Val Kilmer.
Speaker D:And you.
Speaker D:About, hey.
Speaker D:He was like, are you kidding?
Speaker D:That's exactly who I was gonna say.
Speaker A:And at the end, in the credits, Val Kilmer had sings Heartbreak Hotel.
Speaker B:Oh, nice.
Speaker A:So one of the songs, the Elvis songs, Heartbreak Hotel, that is played somewhere in the movie.
Speaker A:Val Kilmer is the one singing.
Speaker C:I, I, I didn't know, obviously, this would be my first time really watching this movie.
Speaker C:When it, Val Kilmer popped up in the credits at the beginning, I'm like, val Kilmer's in this?
Speaker C:And then it goes.
Speaker C:And then he starts talking to him in the bathroom.
Speaker C:I was like, is that Val Kilmer?
Speaker A:Holy.
Speaker C:He's Elvis.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker C:Okay, see, I didn't even see Val.
Speaker A:Kilmer's name in the credits opening up.
Speaker A:I, I guess I just glossed over it.
Speaker A:The only reason I saw Val Kilmer was because it said we guessed it.
Speaker A:I thought of it at that point.
Speaker A:We weren't sure.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:But then when it says Val Kilmer, Heartbreak Hotel, I'm like, it's got to be.
Speaker A:It's got to be.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:He's credited as, or his character's name is Mentor.
Speaker A:Oh, is that right?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:Not Elvis.
Speaker C:It's no copyright thing.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:But, yeah, that's, that was a cool, cool little thing.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:And, and I'd seen this movie a bunch of times, and the first time I realized it was Val Kilmer was last night.
Speaker B:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that's crazy.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Ready for the Beats.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Is this it?
Speaker A:Let's see.
Speaker A:Nope, that's the other one.
Speaker A:All right, here we go.
Speaker A:All right, so the Beats.
Speaker A:Now, both these movies, some like.
Speaker A:Okay, so we just did Falling down, which is, is laced with deeper meaning and layers of, of meaning in the background.
Speaker A:And seen.
Speaker A:We talked all about that in our review.
Speaker A:You almost have to go through it with a fine tooth comb to appreciate it.
Speaker A:I don't think that's true of.
Speaker A:True Romance.
Speaker A:I don't think it's laced with deeper meaning.
Speaker A:I anticipate that both these reviews will come out about an hour.
Speaker A:However, that doesn't detract from the movie.
Speaker A:And I think True romance is near perfectly structured in terms of the beats that we understand and talk about.
Speaker A:And I think there's a strongly stated theme also.
Speaker A:It is a fun movie to watch, but isn't going to overburden you with metaphysical questions.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:So as we go through it, I think we'll talk about how we enjoy it.
Speaker A:But unless you guys know something I don't.
Speaker A:There's.
Speaker A:I don't think there's a whole lot of deep rabbit holes that we're gonna necessarily go down.
Speaker B:Probably not.
Speaker C:Yeah, I think.
Speaker C:I think that's similar.
Speaker C:The case for a lot of Quentin Tarantino stuff is you get what you get.
Speaker C:It's all right there on the surface and it's cool as.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And there is generally a theme, you know, that he's going to bring out.
Speaker A:It's just not going to bend your brain necessarily.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, because.
Speaker A:Because like Breakfast Club and Falling down, you know, we've talked about those.
Speaker A:Anyway, all right, so let's get into this opening image.
Speaker A:Christian Slater in a bar talking to some floozy.
Speaker C:She was an Unforgiven.
Speaker A:Yes, she was the cut up whore in Unforgiven.
Speaker D:Yeah, she was.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Very pretty lady.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:No, she was what?
Speaker A:She was.
Speaker A:In the category of what I refer to as trashy hot, there are various.
Speaker D:Why did you look at me whenever you.
Speaker A:Because I know that you hate that.
Speaker A:But there are.
Speaker A:I've talked about this before and it bears repeating.
Speaker A:There are various classes of hotness.
Speaker A:Trashy hot is one of the best.
Speaker C:Australian hot.
Speaker A:Australian hot is right up there.
Speaker A:And cheerleader hot.
Speaker A:So if you're an Australian cheerleader hooker.
Speaker A:I think I'm in love.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:He thinks.
Speaker C:He thinks.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:By the hour.
Speaker A:Anyway, so what.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker D:What is Selma in?
Speaker D:From Dusk till Dawn.
Speaker A:Oh, that's.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Well, see, that's like triple hot.
Speaker C:That is nuclear.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker A:That's a smoke show.
Speaker A:That's nuclear hot.
Speaker B:I like it because.
Speaker A:Because it.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker C:So you got him flustered.
Speaker D:I know.
Speaker A:Well, I'm trying because Selma is the apex.
Speaker A:Selma is the apex.
Speaker D:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Of hotness.
Speaker A:There's no.
Speaker B:In that movie.
Speaker B:I don't want to go down, period.
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker B:Yeah, very.
Speaker B:I just didn't.
Speaker B:Was clarifying.
Speaker D:You know, I think every man on earth would agree with you with that.
Speaker C:There is a category most women on earth would agree with.
Speaker A:Yeah, there is a category that I have.
Speaker A:It's tough girl slash bad girl.
Speaker A:Hot.
Speaker A:Like a tough girl is hot.
Speaker A:You know, I'm saying.
Speaker C:So she's 99% tomato meter off the charts.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:You mean like girl that kick your ass?
Speaker B:You mean when you say tough girl, that's what you mean?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So like an action.
Speaker B:Like we're talking about movies.
Speaker B:Like an action.
Speaker A:Yes, yes.
Speaker B:Beck and so underworld type thing.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm sure there's others, but she's Australian.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Anyway, we're getting way too far off.
Speaker A:So he's talking to what would be classified as a trashy hot female.
Speaker A:Now, we don't know that she's a prostitute.
Speaker A:She seems like a sweet lady, but the way she's dolled up.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:We don't know that she's a prostitute.
Speaker A:So I don't want to, you know, impinge.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But she falls in the same mold as Alabama because she's very dolled up and almost cute in a way, but at the same time, trouble.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Anyway.
Speaker A:And so you think.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:So this is very character revealing.
Speaker A:I think this is an excellent open image, in my opinion, for Christian Slater because he.
Speaker A:He talks a lot.
Speaker A:His.
Speaker A:His interests are very fringe and borderline.
Speaker A:Sort of geek nerdy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he's interested in picking this chick up to take her to a movie.
Speaker A:Three movies.
Speaker B:Three.
Speaker B:Three movies.
Speaker A:And she.
Speaker B:Me to a kung fu movie.
Speaker A:Three.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is probably what he was gonna do, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, yeah, he had told his boss that's where he was gonna be his birthday.
Speaker B:He does that regardless.
Speaker A:But he learned that very much.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:We learned that later on.
Speaker B:But yeah, but to me, like, I feel like we very much get the.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:I mean, he says he does it on his birthday.
Speaker B:Like, I feel like he goes to the movies alone on his birthday every year.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Probably goes to movies by himself a lot.
Speaker A:And he works at this.
Speaker A:He works at this.
Speaker A:But Record store, which I'm sure is full of little known or, you know, cult, you know, records and comics or just comics.
Speaker A:Oh, it's comics.
Speaker A:Comics.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I was thinking of High Fidelity for some reason, but yeah, comics.
Speaker A:And then he talks about Alabama, about Spider man and.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:So he's very.
Speaker B:Spider man number one, sir.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And he talks about.
Speaker A:And I wish I'd have paid more attention because I don't know if the stuff he's talking about Spider man, the story that he's talking about, Spider man has any sort of parallel to the events of the movie because he was.
Speaker C:Talking about Nick Fury which in the next scene you see Sam Jackson who ends up playing Nick Fury.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, that's caught into that.
Speaker B:Oh yeah, yeah, that's Nick Fury.
Speaker B:Nick Fury eyepatch, eye patch.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:He ends up with an eye.
Speaker B:I didn't think about them.
Speaker A:I wouldn't have known that.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker C:That was good.
Speaker A:Anyway, so what I.
Speaker A:That's a long way of saying.
Speaker A:Here's how I characterized his opening image.
Speaker A:He's a fast talker who has some heart and he doesn't always win.
Speaker A:Now that's going to come up in a minute.
Speaker A:I think we'll get to it in a second.
Speaker A:But she.
Speaker A:He gets shot down here.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:You know, and he talks a lot but he seems like a guy with some heart, you know.
Speaker A:And so I think this is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And to me like Emily Stark is a guy who's not afraid to be who he is.
Speaker B:Absolutely unapologetic about Elvis and then wants to do the kung fu movies.
Speaker B:And yes.
Speaker B:Even as far as like so comfortable in his skin, I'd fuck Elvis.
Speaker B:You know what mean like right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Unashamed.
Speaker A:Later on when that guy's reading the Newsweek not about Elvis, the guy's like okay dude.
Speaker A:And he sits there and says yeah, no, no.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And then the guy starts listening.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh really?
Speaker B:Well these fanatics, like I love the look he gets.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So maybe that is the one.
Speaker A:Unaware, non self aware but unapologetic.
Speaker A:Anyway, so fast talker with some heart doesn't always win.
Speaker A:Which I'll get to in a minute.
Speaker A:What Any other thoughts on your guys opening image?
Speaker A:What did you.
Speaker C:Yeah, I was going to just quick say like he's a minimum wage guy.
Speaker C:Like his boss usually throws him a couple bucks.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker C:Down on his luck.
Speaker C:Like he's just a, he's just a guy.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, that's what he does.
Speaker B:But yeah, like even this, his attitude.
Speaker B:But well that's where the trouble into paradise comes in.
Speaker B:You're talking about how he doesn't make any money.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker A:Seems to, seems to take the world as it is and takes him as he is.
Speaker A:He, he doesn't have any pretension about how the world should be.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:This is the way it is.
Speaker A:Doesn't take any pretension about who he is.
Speaker A:These are his interests and he will proudly welcome you into that world if.
Speaker C:You'Re willing he reminds me a lot of myself.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, you're a nerd.
Speaker C:You're into your thing.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:If you take.
Speaker C:Take it or leave it, right?
Speaker C:Basically, yeah.
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:That's interesting.
Speaker B:Like, did y' all have moments of that?
Speaker B:Because I guess this thing about Nellie James said that, like.
Speaker B:Like, when he's in the theater alone, like, I immediately thought, I've gone to the movies by myself.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:But he's not worried about it.
Speaker A:He's not sitting around thinking, I got shot down.
Speaker A:I'm a lonely guy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:He was enjoying his till.
Speaker C:Popcorn all over everybody's invite.
Speaker C:Like, hey, you want to go?
Speaker C:I'm going.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:Nobody showed up.
Speaker C:I'm still here.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker B:And not just one movie set through three.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So I think that was.
Speaker A:And again, I think all these beats are very tight.
Speaker A:And Tarantino is no joke.
Speaker C:Is this our first Tarantino story?
Speaker C:I think it is.
Speaker B:I think it is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We haven't done.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:We haven't done any fiction or.
Speaker A:Because Tarantino.
Speaker A:That's going to be a love fest.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker C:Yeah, I was kind of debating on which Tarantino would be a first.
Speaker C:I'm glad this is it.
Speaker A:I love the.
Speaker A:At it.
Speaker A:So if we do Tarantino, I'm.
Speaker A:If somebody.
Speaker A:If you guys don't pick it, I'm gonna pick Jackie Brown.
Speaker A:I love.
Speaker C:Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker A:God, I love Jackie Brown anyway.
Speaker A:I love Jackie Brown more than I love Pulp Fiction.
Speaker A:I love Jackie Brown.
Speaker C:That's a strong argument.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Gosh, it.
Speaker B:A lot.
Speaker B:I disagree with you, but I like it.
Speaker A:Sure, sure.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Any other thoughts on our presentation of this guy from the beginning?
Speaker A:All right, theme stated.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna tell you what mine is.
Speaker A:I'll let you guys see what.
Speaker A:What you think.
Speaker A:Because I think it is clearly stated.
Speaker A:But I wanted to see if you guys thought there is one.
Speaker A:Now, before we get into that, I also printed out the Save the Cat beat sheet mapper, which you can plug in how many minutes a movie is and it'll tell you where the beats should be.
Speaker A:Tightly structured.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Every beat got a check mark, meaning it hit right on, right on within two or three minutes.
Speaker A:So I was very impressed by that.
Speaker D:So that should give you a clue of the other movie.
Speaker A:Okay, we'll get into that.
Speaker C:Anyway, I wonder.
Speaker C:I wonder.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I might have given that.
Speaker C:Maybe this is a thought for later, but I wonder if that was Tony Scott doing.
Speaker C:Yeah, Editing or was it.
Speaker C:Well, Tarantino.
Speaker C:It thing.
Speaker A:There was definitely an editing process, so.
Speaker A:Oh, but I wonder how much editing had to do if.
Speaker A:If the script is that tight.
Speaker B:Yeah, right.
Speaker C:Good point.
Speaker A:You know, credits.
Speaker B:I don't know what James was thinking when he.
Speaker B:I guess with your comment on that, but to me, like, Tarantino is not.
Speaker B:When I think of the 15 beats and story structure, Tarantino is not the guy.
Speaker A:I think Pulp Fiction probably does not.
Speaker B:Always say, you know, learn the master the rules before you break them.
Speaker B:This was earlier Tarantino.
Speaker B:Then he went on to tell the story exactly the fucking the way he wanted.
Speaker B:Regardless of.
Speaker A:Before Tarantino could do what he wanted, he had to do it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:The way the industry wanted.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's probably why it's tight.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:So I just want to throw out their credit where credit is due to all the whole filmmaking squad.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker C:This movie, not Tarantino with everybody.
Speaker A:Because you.
Speaker A:You can, as they say, snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Speaker A:You could take a great script and eff it up.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker A:Anyway.
Speaker A:All right, so theme stated.
Speaker A:What did you guys.
Speaker A:Did you guys have any thoughts on a theme stated?
Speaker B:No, not really.
Speaker B:I guess, like, I couldn't nail it down.
Speaker B:Just it was interesting to me.
Speaker B:Like, one of the first things I saw when I guess what I was thinking about that that popped out is jumping ahead a little bit.
Speaker B:But when she's after their night together and she's sitting outside, she's in front of this huge billboard that says, don't listen.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I kept trying to make something with that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then the only I can think of is, like, their romance is a whirlwind romance.
Speaker B:And then there's imagery of roller coasters, and they even go on a roller coaster later.
Speaker B:So the whole ride's like a roller coaster.
Speaker B:But just, you know, I couldn't do anything.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, this movie.
Speaker B:Unless it's the thing he says in the theater where.
Speaker B:I only thought about that a few minutes, like, ago.
Speaker B:Like, where do you talk about?
Speaker B:Well, accidents happen or whatever.
Speaker B:Like, it's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There is no time for Moss to grow in this movie.
Speaker B:It is moving except for the Brad Pitt scenes.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Moss is growing all over that guy.
Speaker A:Okay, any other thoughts before I.
Speaker A:Because I think.
Speaker A:I think I.
Speaker A:Because I. I.
Speaker A:When I picked it, I'm like, okay.
Speaker D:Well, you didn't pick this movie.
Speaker A:No, the theme when I picked, I.
Speaker D:Was like, you thought you picked it last night, didn't you?
Speaker A:I did.
Speaker A:I did.
Speaker A:I picked romance because I would have.
Speaker C:I Love this credit.
Speaker C:He just wanted the credit.
Speaker A:That's all it was.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Whoever picked this movie's a genius.
Speaker A:I must have done it.
Speaker D:Yeah, he thought I picked the other one.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know, because I know you love that movie.
Speaker A:I love it, too, but whatever.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:All right, what's your theme?
Speaker A:Okay, so sorry.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And it hits right around the five.
Speaker A:I think it was like five minutes and 23 seconds.
Speaker B:Oh, very nice.
Speaker A:Yeah, so it was.
Speaker D:It was right there.
Speaker A:I was like, okay, this is.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:It's Alabama talking her voiceover.
Speaker A:And again, this movie essentially is a flashback because she's talking about, you know, that when I discovered my true love, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:So essentially the whole movie is a flashback.
Speaker A:And our other movie did.
Speaker A:Toyed with that a little bit, too.
Speaker A:But we'll get into that when we get to it.
Speaker A:All right, so that's true.
Speaker B:Anything with it?
Speaker A:She was talking now that.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker A:Okay, so let me talk about the theme, and then I'll say this other thing.
Speaker A:She's talking about something that.
Speaker A:That Clarence told her.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:She's saying something to you.
Speaker A:And I wrote down what he said.
Speaker A:Not necessarily what she said, but she says something like, I once asked him why the world was such a shitty place and why shitty things always seem to happen.
Speaker A:And Clarence says, well, that's the way it goes in this world.
Speaker A:But sometimes it goes the other way, too.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:No, no, Nice.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:A lot of shitty things happen in this movie, but it breaks for them at the end when they're on the beach in Cancun.
Speaker A:It went the other way for them this time.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:You know, because a lot of shitty things.
Speaker B:Twice.
Speaker A:I don't know if she says it twice.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:When you were talking about it again, it made me think, sometimes it goes the other way, too.
Speaker B:Sometimes it goes other way.
Speaker B:I don't know if she said twice.
Speaker B:Anyhow.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker A:And I thought, okay, Tarantino is telling.
Speaker A:Is going to give us an instance where it breaks the other way.
Speaker A:And it does.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I think the.
Speaker B:If I remember the voiceovers lined up with her arriving at the theater and going in.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Probably so.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's thereabouts.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because it's about to break for him.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:He just got shot down.
Speaker B:He's sitting there alone.
Speaker B:She walks.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:No, that's good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, should I give you one?
Speaker B:No, that's.
Speaker C:No, another one.
Speaker C:Let's just be clear.
Speaker A:No, because that's I hadn't thought of that.
Speaker B:I put the scene together, but.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's not worth one of those.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Well, okay, so we'll have one of those.
Speaker A:And then, like, for just a minor one.
Speaker C:Just have one that says.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So theme state.
Speaker A:I think so.
Speaker A:I think that's the theme state.
Speaker A:I think it is.
Speaker B:That's good.
Speaker A:I think the rest of the movie shows us how it goes the other way for them because it doesn't go the other way for them for quite a while, it seems, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Anyway, set up.
Speaker A:I just have two people, sort of on the fringe types.
Speaker A:Both these people, her and him, are sort of out there on the fringe with things they like, with who they are.
Speaker A:Neither one could be viewed necessarily as a success in life, but seem to be doing just fine, you know.
Speaker A:So on the fringe types, nerdy, cultish interests, almost cut from the same mold.
Speaker A:These two is how I have these two characters set up.
Speaker A:And that's all.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:We're presented clear versions of these in this.
Speaker A:In the opening image and the setup.
Speaker B:Yeah, I. I don't want to say forgot.
Speaker B:Like, I knew I obviously, you know, picks me for a reason.
Speaker B:Obviously, you know, like it.
Speaker B:But I think I'd forgotten how.
Speaker B:Well, this.
Speaker B:The early scenes work.
Speaker B:Like, you fall in love with these two characters.
Speaker B:Oh, I love them, like, right away.
Speaker B:Like him at the bar.
Speaker B:Then when she comes in, spills her popcorn and then just.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Do you mind catching me up on what I missed?
Speaker B:And then he starts talking to her, and then she just climbs into the seat next to him.
Speaker B:Like, you're.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:You're just.
Speaker B:You falling with kid, like, so much that I think I was watching, like, 7:15 in the morning.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I paused it, went down to my son's hall and stood at the doorway, and I was like, he's gonna be so mad if I wake him up.
Speaker B:But he needs to see this fucking movie.
Speaker B:This sucks.
Speaker B:That he's not watching.
Speaker B:I was gonna rewind.
Speaker B:It started all over.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I decided not to because he was gonna.
Speaker B:You know, I was gonna wake him up, make him mad.
Speaker B:And he probably wouldn't join me anyways, but.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So now it's added to the list.
Speaker B:Another one that he needs to see.
Speaker B:But, yeah, I just had.
Speaker B:I guess I'd forgotten how.
Speaker C:Well, these scenes were just telling my house, my rules.
Speaker C:You come out here and watch this.
Speaker B:Before, but it was a little early.
Speaker C:Now he's.
Speaker A:Well, here's the.
Speaker A:Here's how well I think these characters are sold in their setup and their opening image.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:They've known each other for, like, I don't know, 12 hours.
Speaker D:And.
Speaker A:And they both sincerely confess their love for each other.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Like, I will.
Speaker A:I'll never lie to you again.
Speaker A:And then he says, I swear to God, if.
Speaker A:If.
Speaker A:If I put it out there and you say it was all a joke, I'll just die.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:I believed it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You see what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Whereas any other time it would seem almost foisted upon.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You're like, y' all just met.
Speaker B:Yeah, right.
Speaker A:I did.
Speaker B:You don't think that in this one.
Speaker A:No, see?
Speaker D:And it's true.
Speaker D:What did I keep saying?
Speaker D:Oh, this is like better Frozen.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker A:No, it's not.
Speaker D:I thought, oh, well, this is nice.
Speaker D:This is like better verses.
Speaker A:I almost said when she said that last night.
Speaker A:Almost said, okay, there's got to be a nuclear option in this podcast of a veto.
Speaker A:And maybe you only get one in your whole life.
Speaker D:He's so afraid of the podcast.
Speaker A:And if you've used it, then you never get to use it again.
Speaker A:Okay, so you only get one.
Speaker A:But if she suggested better, I said I would use the nuclear option of veto.
Speaker A:But then I thought, well, did I threaten you with.
Speaker B:For all of us or just for yourself?
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker A:Each one of us would get one lifetime.
Speaker B:But if you veto better roses, we still have to watch it and review it.
Speaker A:No, no, no.
Speaker A:It would be vetoed.
Speaker D:You know why he took it back?
Speaker D:Because I said I would veto.
Speaker D:Buckara.
Speaker D:Buckaroo.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:What is it called?
Speaker D:Buckaroo.
Speaker A:You don't even know.
Speaker D:I don't even know.
Speaker D:What is it called?
Speaker A:Across the Eighth Dimension.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:The Adventures of Buckaroo Bon.
Speaker C:Which, to be fair, I've tried to watch it three times.
Speaker C:Not happen.
Speaker B:So I still have the copy of the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:I think the Blu Ray that you gave me.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's just sitting there on the shelf.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:They asked me, dad, why do you still have the movie?
Speaker B:I gotta hold on to it until we watch it for podcast.
Speaker B:I don't want to pay for this.
Speaker C:It's a classic.
Speaker C:For some unknown.
Speaker A:That movie is awesome.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker D:But anyway, back to the bit of roses.
Speaker D:It does.
Speaker A:No, but not.
Speaker D:Wait a minute.
Speaker D:No, it does have Christian Slater.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker D:He's sweet, you know, he's real sweet in that.
Speaker D:I mean, he is so.
Speaker A:That movie is pathetic.
Speaker D:No, he is so sweet.
Speaker A:Okay, anyway.
Speaker D:Anyway.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, this was back in the early 90s 90s, where girls wanted to run away with Christian Slater.
Speaker A:Well, everybody thought he was the next Jack Nicholson, which.
Speaker A:Because he talks very much.
Speaker A:I like a lot of Christian Slayer movies.
Speaker A:I like this one.
Speaker B:I like Cuffs is awesome.
Speaker A:Cuffs is awesome.
Speaker A:I wouldn't mind watching.
Speaker A:Pump up the volume Again.
Speaker C:Unfairly compared to Jack Nicholson, just because I think.
Speaker A:He'S a great actor.
Speaker A:He's a great actor in this.
Speaker B:Yeah, He's.
Speaker B:We're watching Dexter Original Sin right now.
Speaker B:We just started it up.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he plays dad.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And just.
Speaker B:I'm glad he's actually made the comment.
Speaker A:That he's aged because there was a time there where he was sort of gone.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B: He kind of hung out in early: Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Where there wasn't any more movies.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker A:But now he's showing up more and more, and I. I'm glad.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Broken Arrows.
Speaker B:Another fun one.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:But, yeah.
Speaker D:And he was in.
Speaker D:What was that?
Speaker D:We just 3, 000 miles degrees.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:But, yeah, they underused under Houston there.
Speaker B:Yeah, sure.
Speaker C:But, yeah, him and Patricia Arquette really sold it.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker A:I thought the same because the script is well written and the characters presented well, but he really sells that nerdy sincerity hard on the sleeve, you know, if you.
Speaker A:I swear to God, if you're lying, I'll just die.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:When he sees her, like, in the theater, he gets nervous.
Speaker B:He's like, whoa, there's a hot chicken here.
Speaker B:There's a bunch of dudes sitting here watching.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:And he's kind of nervous and.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:No big deal.
Speaker B:He's filling popcorn.
Speaker B:Not a big deal.
Speaker B:And then, you know, he just.
Speaker B:Yeah, you can just.
Speaker B:He sells it.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And I'm sorry, but I mean, she is so hot in this movie.
Speaker A:She is like just, you know, bubblegum and neon, but it's just blazing.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Hot.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Who.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:And, you know.
Speaker A:And then he tells his dad later.
Speaker A:Can you believe her?
Speaker A:I mean, she just like a peach or what?
Speaker A:I mean, just.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:My wife really enjoyed all the outfits.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:That she cute as a button.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:Anyway.
Speaker A:All right, we're gonna move on.
Speaker A:All right, so that's set up.
Speaker A:We good on that?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay, now, catalyst.
Speaker A:I think the story is about these two.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So I'm having the catalyst as them falling in love.
Speaker A:They're.
Speaker A:They're meeting.
Speaker A:And maybe later on, the revelation that it was not a chance meeting, but the fact that they have come across each other and realize they are Each other's true romance.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:We didn't necessarily talk about that, I guess for people that.
Speaker B:For the, you know, following along with the beats and we didn't.
Speaker B:People that haven't seen it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:We didn't talk about how they didn't just chance meet in the theater.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker B:She reveals later, after they have a wonderful night, that she's a call girl.
Speaker B:And she was paid by his boss.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:To get him.
Speaker A:Show him a good time on his birthday.
Speaker A:And she's only been a call girl.
Speaker B:Mad about it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she's only been a call girl for four days.
Speaker A:I'm a good person.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And you believe it.
Speaker A:That she is.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You know, I'm saying.
Speaker A:And she says, once I'm with you, I'm with you.
Speaker A:And that.
Speaker A:That you believe it.
Speaker B:You're a. I'm a call girl.
Speaker B:There's a difference.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker C:The lovemaking scene was very, very reminiscent of Top Gun.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And we're watching this and my wife's like, this is like Top Gun.
Speaker C:I was like, Tony Scott.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Because it wasn't.
Speaker B:We're doing this whole Top Gun thing.
Speaker B:It'll be great.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker B:It's fine.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:It did.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But I'm saying it was.
Speaker A:It was hot.
Speaker A:Without being gratuitous and vulgar.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You say.
Speaker A:I'm saying.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which I appreciate it.
Speaker A:I mean, I like vulgar.
Speaker A:Don't get me wrong.
Speaker C:There's a time and a place.
Speaker C:Tarantino movie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Typically isn't.
Speaker A:With your wife.
Speaker A:There's not any.
Speaker B:In his movies.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So that leads into the debate because they start talking, stay together or not stay together.
Speaker A:And then this idea that he.
Speaker A:Because once he.
Speaker A:Once he is with her, he is with her and.
Speaker A:And really does not like the idea that someone hurt her.
Speaker A:And so he is debating, I think, whether.
Speaker A:I don't know that he.
Speaker A:I think he debates it.
Speaker A:He does debate it a little bit in the bathroom, but once he's decided he's going to go and take care of this guy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That hurt his love, his true romance.
Speaker A:Because he's all in.
Speaker A:And she's all in.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:What's a Drexel?
Speaker A:Yeah, what's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What's a Drexel?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's the first time we see the Elvis mentor character.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's in the bathroom.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because Elvis, he tells him he could kill him.
Speaker B:Nobody's gonna convince him to kill him.
Speaker A:Because he's debating whether he should do It.
Speaker A:I don't want to spend the rest of my life in jail.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You're not.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Getting away is the easy part.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Police love that stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that's my debate.
Speaker A:The catalyst is them falling in love.
Speaker A:The debate is, how much is he going to be for her?
Speaker A:And he's going to be all in.
Speaker A:You look at her sideways, you're going to get busted.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Anyway, any other thoughts on debate?
Speaker A:Like I said, I don't think you're getting a lot of serious depth here, but you are seeing characters who are completely true to themselves.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I like the.
Speaker B:Just the phrasing about the.
Speaker B:He's hunting you.
Speaker B:You want to get unhunted.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Talking about Drexel.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:That's good.
Speaker A:Breaking the two.
Speaker A:He's gonna do it.
Speaker A:Leaves the apartment into the second act is how I have it.
Speaker B:That's what I got.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I wrote down White Boy Day.
Speaker A:So did you write.
Speaker A:I did.
Speaker A:I did, too, a little bit later.
Speaker B:That guy's amazing.
Speaker A:The B story, that was the one beat I didn't understand.
Speaker A:But it's got to be Alabama, the love interest.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker B:Love interest.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think, because he.
Speaker A:She changes him into.
Speaker A:Now he.
Speaker A:He talks about the karate guy.
Speaker A:Just a badass.
Speaker A:The Spider Man.
Speaker A:I almost think he's.
Speaker A:He sort of wants to be the superhero.
Speaker A:Wants to be.
Speaker A:So he's.
Speaker A:He very much sees himself going after Drexel as the.
Speaker A:You know, I'm saying.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like the Punisher.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:In the Marvel universe.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, it's almost.
Speaker B:One thing I had was like, he seemed like this sweet, kind of.
Speaker B:We even talked about.
Speaker B:Geeky, nerdy guy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then all of a sudden.
Speaker B:Well, this dude's got a lot of balls.
Speaker B:And he's got this, you know, this violent side of him.
Speaker B:But that's.
Speaker B:To me, that's hinted at because he likes kung fu movies and he likes comic books where the.
Speaker A:To him, this is the way you.
Speaker B:Deal with the man of action.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then there's stuff this dad says that made me think, okay, maybe there's a history there with this guy.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker A:Because his dad was a drunk and got divorced.
Speaker A:So I'm sure that quit around, you.
Speaker B:Know, I mean, just like, I felt like, you know, I think.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Talking three.
Speaker B:Like, I felt like maybe there was something else.
Speaker B:Like, this isn't maybe the first time this dude.
Speaker A:Well, sure, but bad parenting, a broken childhood gave him some edges.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But he could have been much darker.
Speaker A:His whole life, he.
Speaker A:This guy.
Speaker B:It just didn't ever come out.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And now he's got something really to fight for.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You know, fun and games again.
Speaker A:And these beats are all hitting catalyst at 12 minutes right there.
Speaker A:Set up two to 11 minutes.
Speaker A:It was right there.
Speaker A:The debate, 14 to 25.
Speaker A:It was right there.
Speaker A:He's out of the apartment at 27 minutes, which is where it's exactly supposed to be.
Speaker A:I was amazed how tight this thing was.
Speaker A:Fun and games.
Speaker A:I call it the pimp fight.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And it turned out to be white boy day.
Speaker A:You know, this ain't white boy day.
Speaker A:Well, it turned out to be white boy, so that.
Speaker A:That whole thing, not her clothes, they discovered that the suitcase, they got.
Speaker D:Whoa, whoa.
Speaker B:You're just gonna skip.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, these are the.
Speaker A:These are the fun and games.
Speaker B:Okay, but.
Speaker A:But yes, this whole scene is Gary.
Speaker A:I mean, Gary Oldman.
Speaker B:We know he's amazing, but I hadn't seen this in a while.
Speaker A:He's in the movie 12 minutes.
Speaker B:So amazing.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:You tell.
Speaker A:You tell an actor.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:You're only going to be in this movie about eight minutes.
Speaker A:They're going to mail it in probably half the time, maybe.
Speaker A:Gary Oldman.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:If you give me 30 seconds, I am going to make it the best.
Speaker A:30 seconds.
Speaker B:Doesn't even sound like him.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:I don't know if we talk about this podcast before, but I've heard it, like, with him.
Speaker B:One of those, you know, chameleon actors.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But he's.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It doesn't even sound like I was watching.
Speaker B:I'm like, I know that's Gary Goldman, but it doesn't even sound like him.
Speaker C:I've.
Speaker B:Easy.
Speaker C:I've heard rumors.
Speaker C:I don't know how true it is, but Gary Oldman had to get a speech coach to learn how to speak his normal voice again.
Speaker C:Again.
Speaker C:Really changed it up so many damn times.
Speaker A:Yeah, sure.
Speaker C:Oh, he had to learn how to, like, bring it back to his normal.
Speaker B:That's crazy.
Speaker B:Yeah, that.
Speaker B:I mean, that tracks.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And I don't.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:Gary Oldman is not one of these actors that you really hear about outside of movies.
Speaker A:Like, I don't.
Speaker A:I don't remember Gary Oldman doing some.
Speaker D:March or he was on Friends.
Speaker A:Was he.
Speaker A:Yeah, I know, but I mean, as far as.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, like, personal life.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:You don't know about him.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You don't hear which.
Speaker A:I'm fine.
Speaker A:It's exactly how I like it.
Speaker B:Good or bad.
Speaker B:You don't hear anything.
Speaker B:Seems like he said, yeah, he just got benighted.
Speaker C:He just got knighted this month.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker D:Really.
Speaker A:Is he British or.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker C:I didn't know how to learn his accent.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, about.
Speaker A:Because every time he's in a movie, he talks different, so I had no idea he was British.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So he's.
Speaker A:I rarely see him in interviews or, like you say, outside his life.
Speaker A:So I don't know anything about him, which is fine.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:I can't look it up.
Speaker C:New Cross London.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker C:Yeah, he's from London.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:I love everything.
Speaker A:And so he's in this movie, like 12 minutes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But he is going to give you every ounce of that because.
Speaker A:Because his character is so well done.
Speaker A:I forgot that he was only in it, so a short amount of time.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker C:You know, according to the trivia.
Speaker C:Sorry, He.
Speaker C:He brought it.
Speaker C:This was right after they had filmed Dracula.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker C:So he brought along the costume, hair and makeup people to do his dreads and to do it.
Speaker C:I was wondering if that's Oscar level.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:So I was wondering if it's Gary Oldman.
Speaker A:I bet he put in.
Speaker A:In my.
Speaker A:In my mind, I bet Gary Oldman made that character.
Speaker A:Like, they probably had Drexel, bad guy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Gary Oldman was like, had a vision of that character that's on the screen for 12 minutes.
Speaker C:It was shown on here again that he.
Speaker C:Basically, the pitch was you play a white guy who thinks he's black and you're a pimp.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Hey, like, he took it from there.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:That's genius.
Speaker A:Level transformations.
Speaker A:And Gary Oldman has never failed at that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:They set up the.
Speaker B:That he's dangerous, too.
Speaker B:I mean, obviously, you know, could just.
Speaker B:All right, pimp.
Speaker B:That could be enough.
Speaker B:But they said he kills the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The Samuel Jackson.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's another thing.
Speaker B:Slater gets there.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:They set that up that he.
Speaker A:So, yeah, we're watching this and I'm watching the credits roll.
Speaker A:Somehow I miss Val Kilmer, but we're watching this movie and it's like, oh, he's in it.
Speaker A:Oh, he's in it.
Speaker A:Oh, he's in it.
Speaker B:So many stars.
Speaker A:And then it stopped.
Speaker A:And I'm like, there is.
Speaker A:Every actor in this movie is a known star.
Speaker A:How'd that work?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker D:And then we.
Speaker D:We figure out the one that's in the shadows and didn't realize he was in it, too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:And that whole scene is amazing.
Speaker A:You know, but now that scene sort of does feed back into the.
Speaker A:The theme a little bit, because he goes there and he's cool as shit up until the time he gets his ass kicked.
Speaker A:And then you're like, even, even Drexel's like, oh, you know, how'd this work out for you?
Speaker A:You thought it was white boy day.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Things don't go his way, but then they do.
Speaker A:You know, he said somebody blasts his nuts off or whatever, you know, and kills everybody else.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:I think that's why I hate superheroes.
Speaker A:And I like guys like this.
Speaker A:This is a very Bruce Willis thing.
Speaker A:He is a blue collar.
Speaker A:You're going to beat on him with a piece of steel and he's going to kill you.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You know, saying.
Speaker A:Anyway.
Speaker A:Any other thoughts about that?
Speaker B:Yeah, I really like the lamp thing.
Speaker B:I wonder if that's like, if that was in the script that way or if it's just something like on set that they came up with.
Speaker B:The way he's pushing it back.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And then the moment Slater catches it and stares back on.
Speaker B:Because he keeps having to, you know, I mean, shine it in his face and just being super annoying with it.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:You know, he just lets it go.
Speaker B:Then he grabs it and stares him down.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's really cool.
Speaker A:No, it's a very cool.
Speaker A:And Slater sells it.
Speaker A:When he gives him that envelope, that's everything that my peace of mind is going to cost and not a penny more.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:And it's empty.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's balls.
Speaker A:That's balls.
Speaker B:Even the bit about the, you know, you're staring at me.
Speaker B:There's a pair of titties on the tv and he's like, I'm not looking at that because I've seen that movie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:When he explains everything.
Speaker A:So he.
Speaker A:He knows everything that's going on around him, but he's laser focused.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:My concern is you and my wife.
Speaker A:I'm her husband, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker B:He's got a good, I guess, stare down, you know, the dead.
Speaker B:I stare or whatever.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Slater.
Speaker B:I guess I'd forgotten that.
Speaker B:You know, I hadn't seen him, you know, in movies in a while, so.
Speaker A:And probably some part of him knows that he's not getting out of there clean.
Speaker A:That this is.
Speaker A:I'm probably going to get hurt here.
Speaker A:It doesn't matter.
Speaker A:You know, I'm saying.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's.
Speaker A:That's the level.
Speaker A:Because everybody's got a plan until they're hit.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:His plan is.
Speaker A:I Don't care.
Speaker A:You see what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:And then after that scene is when I said, okay, this is definitely not better versus.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:Yes, it is.
Speaker A:Absolutely not.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Better roses guy wouldn't have survived.
Speaker D:No.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So the fun and games is 28 to 58 minutes.
Speaker A:And it essentially nails it with those events roughly half an hour of.
Speaker A:Of seeing.
Speaker A:Of seeing some of this.
Speaker A:The Midpoint is at 59 minutes.
Speaker A:And it is.
Speaker A:It's right there at 59 minutes.
Speaker A:What did you guys have as a midpoint?
Speaker B:I had worry, basically.
Speaker B:I wrote down, got a meeting with Lee.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:To sell the coke.
Speaker B:But I feel like they might be late.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:At this point, I knew the movie was tight.
Speaker A:And so at 59 minutes, roughly halfway in, I knew it had to be happening unless it went off the rails.
Speaker A:And I don't think it went off the rails.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:At 59 minutes, something happens that I'm not.
Speaker A:Anyway, any other.
Speaker B:They go to see dad.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:Then they leave for la.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I thought the midpoint was the Bronson pinched.
Speaker C:I can't ever say his last bronson.
Speaker A:Pinchot or whatever.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Pinchot guy.
Speaker B:His name is Balky.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Always Balky.
Speaker C:Does basically when the cops catch up to him.
Speaker C:And now it's okay, everybody, but I could be wrong.
Speaker B:What did you have, Phil?
Speaker A:False defeat.
Speaker A:His dad is killed.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Now, he doesn't necessarily know that his dad has been killed, but the bad guys have shown up and he has gotten away and they've discovered where he's going.
Speaker A:Hollywood.
Speaker A:So I guess we.
Speaker B:Dad gives him the good news.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They're not on to you.
Speaker B:The cops aren't looking for you, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker B:You're basically right.
Speaker B:Because he had this whole debate with his dad about, can you help me out?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:This big argument because his dad's a cop.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then he finds out the good news.
Speaker B:And then that moment on.
Speaker B:It's kind of bad.
Speaker B:Guys close in then.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:If they kill dad, the.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Balky later on gets arrested.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Everything.
Speaker A:I think at that point.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker A:Because it's.
Speaker A:It's a defeat because now they're on to him.
Speaker A:They know exactly where he's going.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because if you have a defeat, then.
Speaker A:You have a victory later, which I think we do.
Speaker C:Wrote down his address and put it on the refrigerator.
Speaker D:Well, I was screaming, get your driver's license from after he was.
Speaker B:That came into play.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:But I.
Speaker A:You could almost say, well, that had to happen.
Speaker A:But it's totally tight in the story that in all of that confusion, you would not remember your driver's license, if he even knew he took it.
Speaker A:I think at that point he was semi conscious.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:He may not have known that his wallet was taken.
Speaker A:So I think.
Speaker B:I think he was.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because he's laying down, rolling there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And the guy, Drexel, takes it, and he's looking at it.
Speaker B:I don't think Slater was aware that he had lost his stuff at that point.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:I knew he had it, and I was like, well, he's going to get caught.
Speaker D:Is that why he didn't get caught by the police, though?
Speaker A:The.
Speaker D:The drug dealers got it first?
Speaker D:Maybe.
Speaker C:Yeah, probably.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:If the cops had.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Found that, then.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But a different story.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because it was the mobsters looking for them.
Speaker B:So he grabbed the wrong suitcase.
Speaker B:Or the girls that were freaking out and scared because he got this crazy, man.
Speaker A:They probably thought he was there to take the drugs.
Speaker B:It's just the one that gave him.
Speaker A:And so they're.
Speaker A:They're.
Speaker B:Because he wanted their clothes.
Speaker A:All he wanted was get her clothes, get her stuff, you know, and they grab a suitcase.
Speaker A:They just want him gone.
Speaker B:Liver reaction.
Speaker B:Those aren't my clothes.
Speaker A:Yeah, those aren't my clothes, baby.
Speaker A:Okay, so I'm having a midpoint false defeat.
Speaker A:His dad is killed, and they're on.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So at that point, it almost seems like, well, you're dead, man.
Speaker A:They're going to come to California.
Speaker A:You're just dead.
Speaker A:They know exactly where you are.
Speaker B:These dudes are much.
Speaker B:Yeah, they're not Drexel.
Speaker B:They're way worse right now.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:This whole scene with.
Speaker B:It's classic.
Speaker A:Walking.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's classic.
Speaker A:When he said it, because he's got his whole cadence going.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Who are you?
Speaker A:I'm the Antichrist.
Speaker A:You don't say, I'm the Antichrist.
Speaker A:I'm the Antichrist.
Speaker A:You know, that whole.
Speaker A:Oh, my God, this.
Speaker A:I could watch that scene over and over again.
Speaker C:It's a good one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Walking in hopper going, oh, my God.
Speaker A:I miss Dennis Hopper.
Speaker A:You know, those two.
Speaker A:It's a. I don't like them because they're in the public eye now, but it's almost like De Niro and Pacino in.
Speaker A:In Tahit.
Speaker A:When they're sitting.
Speaker A:You know, when you have these two sit down and talk, you better just pay attention.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's interesting you said that about just De Niro because.
Speaker B:Yeah, because I've had, I guess, similar feelings, like so much of his which you're entitled to your opinion.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:But he's just.
Speaker A:He's turned to a punk almost.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Tainted my.
Speaker B:And I hate to say that, but it's tainted my enjoyment of his movies.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And that sucks.
Speaker C:Oh, don't let it surprise you.
Speaker C:He's a theater kid from New York.
Speaker B:I know, right?
Speaker B:Again, you're in top of your.
Speaker B:I mean, I mean, we've talked about Tom Cruise and his crazy Scientology stuff, but I still enjoy his movies, you know.
Speaker D:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Crazy.
Speaker D:That's how I feel about Sean Penn.
Speaker D:I don't watch Sean Penn movies.
Speaker A:Yeah, but.
Speaker A:But he's a consummate actor.
Speaker D:He keeps.
Speaker D:Every time I say something, he's like, oh, he's a good actor.
Speaker D:And I'm like.
Speaker A:That'S why I wish they would just shut up.
Speaker D:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:This one's.
Speaker A:They're free to do whatever they want.
Speaker C:But, you know, this is our second Dennis Hopper related film.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Because Speed was the other one.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Dennis Hopper.
Speaker A:I like anything he does.
Speaker A:At some point, I want us to watch a movie called oh, she Just with.
Speaker B:Jodie Foster.
Speaker A:No, no, no, no.
Speaker A:Damn it.
Speaker D:I don't know, but this will throw you out any.
Speaker A:I'll.
Speaker A:Anyway, I'll talk about it.
Speaker D:You should have watched the Petticoat Junction with me because Dennis Harper was in Petticoat Junction.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Midpoint Foster feet by dad is what I have.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And them discovering at this point, you think he's.
Speaker A:He's not going to get away.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I mean, when he has ready.
Speaker B:Turns on cigarette, then he decides to change his mind.
Speaker B:Takes it like he knew he was dying at that point.
Speaker A:Point, yes.
Speaker A:The whole you.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker B:But he has a cigarette first, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So he knew this is my plan and I'm going to piss him off.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:If I'm going to die, I'm going.
Speaker B:To go out like.
Speaker C:Well, so this, this was a really interesting thing being the first time I watched the movie how they turned the heat up.
Speaker C:And Christian Slater has no idea.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:Like Drexel killed Sam Jackson, killed all the.
Speaker C:The first drug dealers.
Speaker C:And then he walks into the lion den, not realizing who he's dealing with.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker C:And then he escapes and now his dad is in bed with somebody even worse.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:He still has no idea what he's in for, who's after.
Speaker C:And, and they keep tightening the screws on you.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker D:And.
Speaker A:And, and I don't think.
Speaker A:I don't think he would have cared if he knew I Think Christian Slater is so laser focused.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Clarence, once he.
Speaker A:Once he has made up his mind, hell and high water are not going to change it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Because she tries to change his mind.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, it tries to warn him even, you know.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:She knows he's bad and that he could get hurt.
Speaker B:And he did.
Speaker A:She doesn't want that.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Anyway, and then.
Speaker A:And then when he comes back, what did you like?
Speaker A:She's almost mad.
Speaker A:Did you love him?
Speaker A:Did you love him?
Speaker A:And she's.
Speaker A:I think that's the most romantic thing.
Speaker B:You know, that's the thing too, about them being a perfect match.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Her reaction to him killing her pimp is.
Speaker A:Oh, it's so romantic.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker D:I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But that's the focus of these.
Speaker A:They're almost.
Speaker A:You almost want to say they're simpletons, but they just are unashamedly themselves.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like we had made a comment earlier on.
Speaker B:When you talk about the.
Speaker B:We're looking up the history of the movie.
Speaker B:You said it was.
Speaker B:It was part of a much longer story that became Natural Born Killers.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:I felt like these two characters.
Speaker A:Could have been them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Could have been them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Which I feel like I like these characters.
Speaker B:These two.
Speaker B:Maybe that movie is a lot more enjoyable.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Because I did not like Natural Born.
Speaker A:I did not.
Speaker A:I. I've seen it once and I probably won't because it'd be more like.
Speaker B:A Bonnie and Clyde type thing, but I guess just.
Speaker A:Yeah, but you can't really have any sympathy for Bonnie and Clyde.
Speaker A:They would just discriminately killed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's what.
Speaker B:You're right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:These people love each other and want a life and that's it.
Speaker B:If it follows it out like his original outline, they become unlike.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:Yeah, right, right, right.
Speaker C:Maybe when Oliver Stone got a hold of Natural Born Killers.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think that's probably some of Stone, maybe.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because I just.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Did enjoy that movie.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:So bad guys close in.
Speaker A:I. I sell the dope.
Speaker A:Come to see Floyd at the safari where she's.
Speaker A:This is what I have as.
Speaker A:As.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They go out there to see his friend.
Speaker A:His friend.
Speaker B:And Floyd's.
Speaker C:Are Michael Rapabort.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:Roommates.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:Michael Rapaport and Brad Pitt are roommates.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's.
Speaker B:And I'd watch that sitcom, man.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:Young Michael Rapaport is.
Speaker C:He's been in lots of stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:He's just enjoyable.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I. I always Always seem to enjoy his.
Speaker B:I always like when actors, like, play actors and they're.
Speaker B:They're bad at it.
Speaker B:Like, I always enjoy that because to me, it's like this whole other level of like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You have to.
Speaker B:Really good actors.
Speaker A:Turn it off.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:To turn it off.
Speaker B:This read is so bad.
Speaker B:What's he doing up there?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Hey, it doesn't help, but I'm sure these.
Speaker B:How these things really are because she just reading the lines with no.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:She's not an actor.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Well, she's done it 50 times, like, playoff.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:People.
Speaker B:But anyhow, I enjoy that scene.
Speaker D:Well, I want to know how Floyd.
Speaker B:Took all the toilet paper.
Speaker D:How.
Speaker D:How Brad Pitt's character remembered all these places.
Speaker D:And he's high as everything.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:But he can tell you exactly where.
Speaker A:They went to the safari.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, you can't tell them how to get to the hotel because you.
Speaker A:Get out, you drive a little while.
Speaker D:Yeah, but he knew the name of the hotel and he knew the name.
Speaker B:Of where they had gone through the places.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:He doesn't have a lot going on.
Speaker A:Well, I wonder if it was a throwaway line.
Speaker A:Hey, bring back some beer at some cleaning supplies.
Speaker A:What the.
Speaker B:You're right.
Speaker B:That guy's gonna clean the house.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Why do you.
Speaker B:Okay, the one that got me was after.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:I think it's.
Speaker B:He talks to.
Speaker B:I don't know if it's the first group or the.
Speaker B:Maybe it was James.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Don't be condescending to me, man.
Speaker A:Condescend me, motherfucker.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:I'd forgotten about that everywhere.
Speaker B:Watch it again.
Speaker B:Yeah, I remember him being quite enjoyable in this movie.
Speaker B:I remember the directions thing, but.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I forgot about the con again.
Speaker A:Only in it for a few minutes.
Speaker A:Yeah, but there's nerds.
Speaker A:But that's a character that you're focused on even though it's right.
Speaker D:Was that before or after Thelma and Louise?
Speaker C:I think it was after.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:He seemed real young.
Speaker B:He's real close.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Wait, he walked in on one of those scenes and he thought he was Charlie Hunnam.
Speaker B:Like when he glanced at him.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Who exactly but Sons of Anarchy, King Arthur, Australian, something like that.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Or British or so.
Speaker B:Yeah, but he.
Speaker B:Anyhow, like, because he looks so young, he thought we were like, no, let's look again.
Speaker B:And he's like, oh, that's Brad Pitt.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Charlie Hunnam was in middle school right.
Speaker A:That time.
Speaker B:What we're gonna say.
Speaker B:Oh, you're talking about Thelma And Louise.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's gonna be around the same time.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:It was definitely early.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:Something that occurred to me, and obviously there's no way he could have predicted it, but Tarantino now has written two scripts where bad guys show up to the house of Brad Pitt's character, who is high.
Speaker A:What's the other one?
Speaker B:Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Speaker B:Granted, he handles it.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Differently, but okay.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:A lot cooler fashion, but that's because Cliff Booth's way cooler than Floyd.
Speaker C:That was a solid recommend, by the way.
Speaker C:The Once Upon a Time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Hollywood.
Speaker B:That's probably my favorite Tarantino Pulpiction.
Speaker B:My favorite for a long time.
Speaker A:Yeah, sure.
Speaker B:I really like that one.
Speaker A:That's the one that put him on the map, I think.
Speaker B:Hope.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:All right, so bad guys close in, sell the dope, Come to see Floyd, I guess.
Speaker A:Talk about Gandolfini at that point, right?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And then at the safari where she's getting their ass kicked.
Speaker A:Is that what's happening?
Speaker B:Yes, because he finds that out from Floyd.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Because I just goes out to get food, and she walks in.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's sitting there with a shotgun.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:In the room.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:All right, so she.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Tries to pretend that it's the wrong room and stuff, but.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker A:Which.
Speaker A:The dialogue, the whole.
Speaker A:Everything is just amazing.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And so all is.
Speaker A:All is lost.
Speaker A:I mean, I'm sorry.
Speaker A:Fun and games.
Speaker A:Midpoint.
Speaker A:Bad guys close in, 60 to 80.
Speaker A:Right on target.
Speaker A:Gets a check mark all the way down.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Talk about bad guys close in.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:This guy's beating the show.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:You don't think she's making it out and, like, you're right.
Speaker B:So I don't know how you felt, James, but I remember he's sitting there, he's bullshitting with a guy about Elvis.
Speaker B:You're like, fucking stop.
Speaker B:Come on, and get back to the hotel for your girl dies.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Frustrated, because at this point, they.
Speaker A:They've.
Speaker A:They know where he is and they're there now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which leads us into the all is Lost, which in my estimation has to be a false victory.
Speaker A:She lives and they get away with the drugs, you know, because he's there to kill her and get the drugs back.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, that's good.
Speaker A:So false victory.
Speaker A:They get away with the drugs.
Speaker B:I had is her getting.
Speaker B:Nearly dying is almost lost because again, I was getting fuzzy on the beats, and I was like, oh, that's.
Speaker B:You can't almost die for the whiff.
Speaker B:Of death.
Speaker B:Somebody's gonna die.
Speaker B:So he dies.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Burns his ass up.
Speaker B:You're right.
Speaker B:I should have.
Speaker B:Anyhow, that's.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:She goes absolutely native on his ass, man.
Speaker D:Just hairspray.
Speaker A:Hairspray.
Speaker A:But then just the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker D:Ah.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:She is primal at that point.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:I was watching yesterday morning.
Speaker B:That's when Stacy woke up and walked in on that scene.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:She did not remember that movie at all.
Speaker B:She's like, where do you watch it?
Speaker B:I don't worry about it.
Speaker D:You know, the only part I remembered of that movie is when he went to see his father.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker D:I was like, this looks familiar.
Speaker D:And then I was like, I know.
Speaker D:He's going on a road trip now.
Speaker D:And that's all.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:The movie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Those scenes are every.
Speaker A:It's just amazing.
Speaker A:Good writing.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:All is lost.
Speaker A:I have a false victory.
Speaker A:They get away.
Speaker A:She lives.
Speaker A:And they get away with the drugs leading us into the dark night of the soul, which.
Speaker A:Well, yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I was initially a little unsure about this, but I think it is.
Speaker A:What did you guys have as dark night of the soul?
Speaker B:Yeah, mine's in the same spot.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I guess I had reverted.
Speaker B:They're at the.
Speaker B:By the airport.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And talking about living next to the airport and where they could go once this is all done.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And he's patching her up or whatever.
Speaker A:That's what I have.
Speaker A:Elliot rolls over, he gets busted with the cocaine.
Speaker A:My God.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Jeez.
Speaker B:There's the coke at him and it busted his face.
Speaker A:She's laughing.
Speaker B:That's good stuff.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:That guy is.
Speaker B:Good afternoon, officer.
Speaker A:Yes, you.
Speaker A:There is not a better picture of you are in cinema.
Speaker C:Call your lawyer.
Speaker C:Keep your mouth shut.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:But yeah, that was Stacey's comment too.
Speaker B:When.
Speaker B:First time she saw him.
Speaker B:Oh, Balky's in this movie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes, yes.
Speaker D:And I have a question about.
Speaker D:It happens about.
Speaker D:In this time frame.
Speaker D:Does.
Speaker D:Does the guy really get the part for the J.D.
Speaker D:hooker?
Speaker A:T.J. hooker?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:D.J.
Speaker A:Hooker.
Speaker D:He.
Speaker D:Did he really get the part or was.
Speaker D:Was.
Speaker A:No, they called him and said, I got it.
Speaker D:I thought for some reason that was.
Speaker D:I don't know, I thought it was a fake call trying to drag him in with the police thing.
Speaker D:I. I didn't.
Speaker A:No, no, I think he got it.
Speaker C:No, he got it.
Speaker C:And then, you know, spoiler at the end, he actually gets away.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, he takes off.
Speaker A:He's out.
Speaker C:I think he shows up.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Shows up for filming the next day at 7am yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:With Some.
Speaker A:And probably did a hell of an acting job based on.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Some life experiences.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Doesn't attend the rap parties, though.
Speaker C:You know, he's like, no, this drug shootout is nothing like it is in real life.
Speaker A:Elliot rolls over, talks about Cancun by the airport.
Speaker B:Yeah, okay.
Speaker D:Sorry.
Speaker A:That's fine.
Speaker B:Though.
Speaker B:Like, so he gets the phone call, right.
Speaker B:And then in there, because Slater's.
Speaker B:Come on, we gotta go, we gotta go.
Speaker B:And then he congratulates him.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So it doesn't blow his friend off.
Speaker B:But then he, a rapper, goes, hey, Clarence, they stopped for a minute and he goes, what?
Speaker B:Well, never mind.
Speaker B:Like, I guess.
Speaker A:Well, they get it.
Speaker A:That's bro code.
Speaker A:That's man code.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I mean, man law.
Speaker A:Do you say you love a guy without saying you love a guy?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:I mean, it was.
Speaker B:He was just super excited they got the part.
Speaker B:Like he was gonna tell him something and didn't.
Speaker B:So I was thinking about that when Sherry's comment now about, you know, did he really get the part or whatever.
Speaker D:I don't know why I thought it was the police calling.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Kind of sneak him into the.
Speaker D:I don't know.
Speaker B:So you interpret it just super excited and.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And feeling emotional.
Speaker A:And you're my friend and I love you.
Speaker B:Mania.
Speaker B:I love you.
Speaker D:And.
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, because.
Speaker A:And I think based on Christian Clarence's face, he gets it.
Speaker A:It's like, yeah, man, I know.
Speaker A:You know, or whatever.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:I've seen that in others.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You're going to get to meet Captain Kirk.
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And again he goes immediately to the sort of nerdy end of it.
Speaker A:Shatner is not TJ Hooker.
Speaker A:Shatner is Kirk.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You see what I'm saying?
Speaker A:I probably could tell you about every Star Trek episode ever was.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker A:Anyway, Captain Kirk break into three, doing the deal at the hotel and the elevator ride.
Speaker A:So I essentially have them doing the deal at the hotel with riding.
Speaker A:Essentially riding the elevator up to the third act kind of thing.
Speaker A:And it's funny.
Speaker A:Slater is going to kill Balky at that point.
Speaker A:He, he.
Speaker A:I think he was.
Speaker A:Based on everything we know he's dead.
Speaker A:But then when Balky is sort of like, I was just.
Speaker A:Somebody would rescue me, take me away.
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:He's coming out to the.
Speaker A:Clarence is like, he's got a.
Speaker A:This guy's got a heart.
Speaker A:I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker A:And they hug, you know, even though.
Speaker C:He was Right, Right, right.
Speaker A:And that's the sort of the street savvy Of Clarence.
Speaker A:Something's off, man.
Speaker B:You know, you can feel it.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And just Sizemore and Chris Pin.
Speaker A:Oh, I love those guys.
Speaker B:A whole movie with those.
Speaker B:Ah, yes.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker A:Oh, boy.
Speaker B:Let's go back.
Speaker B:I want to see a movie with just.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Just.
Speaker A:Just a company machismo.
Speaker A:Fast talking.
Speaker C:This is just a throwaway comment, but both of these.
Speaker C:I think Tom Sizemore passed away, didn't I think so.
Speaker C:The amount of drugs those two must have been doing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:1993 together.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Probably left to those.
Speaker A:Oh, sure.
Speaker A:You want to talk about two.
Speaker B:The whole suitcase.
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Those two guys were known to.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:To party.
Speaker B:Have a good.
Speaker C:Pack it away.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:So breaking the three riding up in the elevator.
Speaker B:But their performance is really good.
Speaker A:There is not a weak one in this movie.
Speaker C:Both of their performances when those guys were on like Saving Private Ryan.
Speaker C:Tom Sizemore was fantastic.
Speaker C:Reservoir Dogs.
Speaker C:Chris Penn was great.
Speaker C:Best of the best, too.
Speaker C:Chris Penn was amazing.
Speaker C:Just so you.
Speaker C:I don't know if anybody knows.
Speaker C:Best of the best, too.
Speaker A:I like this even better.
Speaker D:He's also in Corky Romano.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:And Footloose.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Yes, he is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:He was in Reservoir Dogs too.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:He was like the son of the big guy or whatever.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Anymore.
Speaker A:And breaking the three.
Speaker A:I think I like.
Speaker A:I like those kind of things where you either leave a building or go out a door or.
Speaker A:You know, I always like those breaks.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The physically moving into the next.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Some way.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:He goes to Drexels to get into Act 2 and he rides the elevator to get into Act 3.
Speaker A:I think is.
Speaker A:I like that finale.
Speaker A:I have.
Speaker A:And we could talk about this, but I have movie talk.
Speaker A:Cops and robbers.
Speaker A:I call it a three way because between.
Speaker A:Between Clarence, the mob and the cops, it's a three way standoff, essentially at that point.
Speaker C:A lot of Mexican standoffs.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Three ways.
Speaker C:But Clarence is in the bathroom talking to Elvis.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:But is.
Speaker A:Alabama's sitting there with the right money on her lap, you know, I mean.
Speaker C:The cops are behind her.
Speaker A:They're all yelling at each other, you know.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:And they got.
Speaker A:You put them down.
Speaker A:No, you put them down.
Speaker C:They got a Vietnam movie rolling on a projector behind them.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And the movie's called Body Bags.
Speaker A:Too.
Speaker A:That's creative.
Speaker B:Money bags.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Nobody's walking out of that room.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Ops.
Speaker A:Cops and robbers.
Speaker A:Three way.
Speaker A:I say Elvis and guns.
Speaker A:Elvis shows up talking to Christian, talking to Clarence and this massive effing shootout, you know, that just keeps on going.
Speaker A:And you Think somebody's going to survive and then who.
Speaker A:Who kills Chris Penn's character?
Speaker A:Was it.
Speaker B:She does.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But you think he's survived at that point.
Speaker B:Right, and then.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The gut.
Speaker A:The guy that dies on the sofa.
Speaker A:You know, I'm shot first I thought it was blocked or something.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:But it wasn't.
Speaker A:And then he dies.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:And that, to me, is Tarantino.
Speaker A:All day long.
Speaker B:Pretty quick for a stomach, you know, shot too.
Speaker A:Yeah, he bled out.
Speaker B:I must have thought he was gonna be there for a minute.
Speaker B:And I was like, oh, no, he died pretty quick.
Speaker A:Done.
Speaker A:So talk in terms of finale.
Speaker A:It is blockbusters.
Speaker A:And then all the confusion now he had helped her out of the hotel when she was all beat to shit.
Speaker A:There's almost a match scene when she is helping him to the car, when he's, you know, been shot and is in and out.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:So these.
Speaker A:These two are devoted to each other, thick and thin.
Speaker A:Any of the thoughts on this finale?
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:It is a banger of a finale.
Speaker B:Who.
Speaker C:Who was it that tossed the briefcase and then somebody shot it?
Speaker C:So it was like a cocaine snow.
Speaker A:The actor guy with.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I was like, why?
Speaker C:I mean, obviously it's cool as hell, but.
Speaker B:Yeah, balky.
Speaker A:No, no, I think the other.
Speaker A:The other.
Speaker C:Quickly.
Speaker A:What's his name?
Speaker D:Rapper?
Speaker A:Rapaport.
Speaker C:Rapaport.
Speaker A:I think Rapaport.
Speaker B:Oh, he threw it.
Speaker A:I think so.
Speaker D:Probably a diversion to get.
Speaker D:So he could get out.
Speaker B:Maybe the officer then couldn't.
Speaker A:Could I leave now, so you're done with me?
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Shut up.
Speaker C:Yeah, he's like, how does he know your name?
Speaker C:How do you know his name?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:Oh, you son of a. I treated.
Speaker A:You like a son.
Speaker A:Okay, well, yeah, it seems to me.
Speaker C:Like the producer guy was just like, he.
Speaker C:He got roped into this thing and that's not what he normally.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker A:He said, I got a guy.
Speaker A:I. I do my small thing.
Speaker A:It's what I.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:He sleeves ball.
Speaker B:But he wasn't part of this thing.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Final image.
Speaker A:I just wrote a new family.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:They are.
Speaker A:Because it's apparently at least a couple years later they have a kid.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:They're still in love and they.
Speaker A:They've got away.
Speaker A:It's a shitty world.
Speaker A:But it went the other way for them this time.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, he's, like, alone in the beginning, even though he's talking to that chick.
Speaker B:And then now he has a family.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Shot down to family.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that's good.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So I, I.
Speaker A:And that's right on, like, right on target.
Speaker A:There's not a.
Speaker A:There's not a missed beat in this movie, even to the minute, which is uncanny.
Speaker A:You know that.
Speaker C:Well, there's a. Alabama apparently was involved with Harry Harvey Keitel's character in Reservoir Dogs.
Speaker C:In the car scene, when he's talking to Tim Roth and Reservoir Dogs, he talks about how he did a job somewhere else with a chick named Alabama.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker C:And this is her.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:The world.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Tarantino world.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The Tarantino world runs deep, apparently.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:But that was not her true love, her true romance.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:Like, I guess it was just a job she did before or after, I don't know, these events.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker A:Right, right, right.
Speaker A:But it's cool that you know the world sort of, you know, that's, that's very cool.
Speaker C:And I think there was somebody else with the same last name as another.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Michael Madsen and John Travolta.
Speaker B:They're both baby.
Speaker B:They're brothers.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'd heard that.
Speaker B:Which then makes you, you know, I want to see the Vega brother movies.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:Oh, now they can't do it because you ain't going to get nobody else like Mads Madsen and Travolta.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker C:Well, maybe AI could do it, but that's a conversation for next time.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Young Michael Madsen was just dangerous, badass, you know?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Psychopath.
Speaker B:I'd forgotten how good he was in Kill Bill, too.
Speaker B:Yeah, I just watched those with Lathe recently, that strip club, and just.
Speaker B:And they're giving about his hat.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:I forgot about that.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I, I'd like to kill bills, but I, I was not.
Speaker B:I like them.
Speaker B:I liked them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:They're different from his other.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:But I did like them.
Speaker C:I like the, the, the cowboy one.
Speaker C:Oh, God, I can't think of the name of it.
Speaker B:Yeah, Phil didn't like that one either.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:I did not.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:That was one of the ones I totally forgot Channing Tatum was in until right there in the middle when he shoots the floor.
Speaker C:I'm like, oh, yeah, he's in this.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, I like that one.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's true romance.
Speaker A:I mean, I think it's tight and it holds up.
Speaker A:I love this movie.
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker A:Are we ready for anything else before we get into money?
Speaker A:Pass.
Speaker A:Consider.
Speaker A:Okay, this was Chris's movie.
Speaker A:We'll let him start.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker A:I think we all know the answers, but go Ahead.
Speaker B:It's a pass for sure.
Speaker A:This movie sucks, man.
Speaker C:It's a.
Speaker C:Pass me the popcorn.
Speaker A:Ask me the road so I can rewind it.
Speaker B:Yeah, I guess I'm gonna go.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Recommend, right?
Speaker B:It's a fun movie.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You're a Christian Slater fan, right?
Speaker B:And then, you know, it's a 90s movie.
Speaker B:Very much so.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But it's not tino.
Speaker A:There's some 90s movies, I don't think.
Speaker A:Hold up.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:I think, still agreed.
Speaker B:Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's got good DNA with Tarantino and all the cast and.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Good performances all around.
Speaker A:Good bones, as the real estate would say.
Speaker A:Whatever.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Fun.
Speaker B:Enjoyable movie.
Speaker B:It's kind of different, so.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'll.
Speaker A:I'll.
Speaker C:I'll say this is a total, total recommend.
Speaker B:How?
Speaker C:This was the first time I watched this movie.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I've been a huge Tarantino fan since 96.
Speaker C:97, watching all the pulp, watching all the movies.
Speaker C:This one somehow slipped through the cracks.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I knew that he had written it.
Speaker C:I knew that it was out there.
Speaker C:I just never watched it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'd completely forgot.
Speaker C:If I had watched this back then, it would be right up there with me with Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:The whole bit.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker C:So, yeah, totally.
Speaker C:Go for it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There are some.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Cherry, what do you think?
Speaker D:I recommend it now, if you're not into blood and violence.
Speaker A:Well, that's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:You know, but again, I guess you wouldn't be watching it if.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker D:Unless, I mean, you know how Quentin Tarantino is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Anyway.
Speaker D:But no, I recommend it.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker D:And I kept.
Speaker D:Honestly, whenever you picked this one, Chris, I kept thinking the Heathers.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:She kept thinking it was the head one, too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Heather's Explainer.
Speaker D:And.
Speaker D:And I kept.
Speaker D:Well, I knew it wasn't true.
Speaker D:My mess.
Speaker D:But I couldn't remember what movie this was.
Speaker D:And I totally, like I said, remembered nothing about it except for when he went to his father's place.
Speaker D:I said, no.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:That looks familiar.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:But, yeah, it was good.
Speaker A:Yeah, I totally.
Speaker D:Rough.
Speaker D:A little rough.
Speaker D:Especially the.
Speaker D:Was it James?
Speaker B:Yeah, the torture scene.
Speaker D:That was a rough.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:Especially him.
Speaker D:You know, I was sitting there thinking, wonder what people think about.
Speaker D:I know it's just a movie, but wonder what people think about him hitting.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:The woman so hard.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:So rough, you know?
Speaker A:Well, yes.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But I was thinking, like, the movie's called True Romance, and then it's.
Speaker A:What you get the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:All the violence in action, like even the.
Speaker A:The title versus the content sort of are at odds.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:This isn't your bed of roses.
Speaker B:This isn't movie.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Princess Bride.
Speaker A:True romance.
Speaker A:You see what I'm saying?
Speaker A:But they are as much devoted to each other as two people could be.
Speaker C:It's a special kind of crazy.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Abs.
Speaker B:It is, right?
Speaker A:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker A:Totally recommend.
Speaker A:I love this movie.
Speaker A:I think it holds up.
Speaker A:I think it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's.
Speaker A:It's a fun time.
Speaker A:If you want to have a fun time, this is a movie that will do it for you.
Speaker C:I've.
Speaker C:I've watched Beverly Hills Cop 1 and 2 quite a bit.
Speaker C:Yeah, I love those movies.
Speaker C:This one fits like.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Right there.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's the same vibe, the same everything.
Speaker C:But Quentin Tarantino wrote it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it's got an edge, a darker edge.
Speaker C:It's an extra.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker C:And it's kind of like Cobra.
Speaker C:Cobra was supposed to be Beverly Hills.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think.
Speaker B:I think I took it and rewrote it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's kind of let that kind of.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Bisection of it.
Speaker B:Well, he cuts pizza with scissors in that movie.
Speaker B:He has a slice of pizza, he cuts the end off and then eats the one bite.
Speaker B:And we're like, you know, what is that?
Speaker B:Is that portion control?
Speaker B:I don't understand.
Speaker B:What's the psychopath?
Speaker B:You know, and he's, of course, the.
Speaker B:The good guy, not the psychopath with gloves on and his shade.
Speaker B:So, yeah, you gotta be cool.
Speaker B:You know, that movie's ridiculous.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:It occurs to me, you know, each.
Speaker A:So Clarence, Clarence's dad and her all are in a situation where they're getting the shit kicked out of him.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay, maybe.
Speaker A:Maybe Clarence's dad isn't getting the shit kicked out, but he gets killed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they punch him right in the nose.
Speaker A:Oh, your eyes start watering.
Speaker A:It's terrible.
Speaker A:And they all react the same way with.
Speaker A:With snark and.
Speaker A:And bravado, even while they're being.
Speaker A:Having the.
Speaker A:Kicked out of.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:You know, she, you know, is getting beat to death and.
Speaker A:Okay, okay, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker A:You know, finger, you know, so she's.
Speaker A:She fits right in with this family.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The two.
Speaker A:Two.
Speaker A:Two people who are perfect for each other are not existing in the world.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:More people.
Speaker A:Anyway, yeah.
Speaker A:Good time.
Speaker A:Great movie.
Speaker C:Love story for the ages, I guess.
Speaker B:Snark during a, you know, torture scene or somebody's getting, you know, beat up or whatever.
Speaker B:I Think Justified is probably one of my favorites.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:With Constable Bob.
Speaker B:And they're looking for somebody named Drew.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he just.
Speaker B:You know, he gets hit and.
Speaker B:Drew.
Speaker B:Drew.
Speaker B:Drew, mama.
Speaker B:Later on.
Speaker B:Drew baca Bob is good stuff.
Speaker B:You know, people under macerate Bob at their peril.
Speaker A:Just Right.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:My go bag.
Speaker D:That's right.
Speaker B:My go bag.
Speaker B:Raylan.
Speaker A:That shit's funny.
Speaker D:I still.
Speaker D:I still talk about my go back.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Anything else before we close out?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Four recommends.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:This is good stuff.
Speaker A:Good, good.
Speaker B:The comic book store.
Speaker B:Sorry, I was gonna say this a minute ago.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:Even the.
Speaker B:It was called Heroes for Sale, which I thought was a cool.
Speaker A:Oh, oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Title for a comic book place.
Speaker A:Yeah, that is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it fits in with, like, he think Clarence thinks there should be a hero.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, Spider Man.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:Yeah, but that's what's interesting, too.
Speaker B:He's talking about Spider Man 1, but he's.
Speaker B:That's what he shows.
Speaker B:Everybody's talking about.
Speaker B:Nick Fury's not even talking about Spider Man.
Speaker A:Oh, is he?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I mean, yeah, that's.
Speaker B:That's kind of cool.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Thing.
Speaker C:The thing that he wears and.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because I was wondering.
Speaker C:It's a Nick Fury.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Which is cool.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:No, good stuff.
Speaker C:I mean, in the original, before the mcu, Nick Fury did not look like Sam Jackson.
Speaker C:He looked more like Christian slave than eye patch.
Speaker A:Huh.
Speaker A:That's cool.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Might have something to do with it.
Speaker B:And I guess to your point about Everyday Man.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:He wasn't identifying with a guy that's got superpowers.
Speaker B:He was identifying.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's good.
Speaker A:That's good, too.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Because the best one.
Speaker B:No, Fury never had powers.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:He's just smart dude.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:With an eye patch.
Speaker A:Wait, what's the guy.
Speaker A:The karate guy's name?
Speaker A:I can never remember the actor, Kiki.
Speaker A:Anyway, when he's describing me, he said he's.
Speaker A:He's just a bad dude who's only cheap.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Movie.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:He just.
Speaker B:Badass gets paid to people up.
Speaker A:And he's good with that.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Anything else about true romance?
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We love this movie.
Speaker A:Okay, we are out.
Speaker B:It.
