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Onboarding Employees Post-Covid: What's the new normal?
Episode 397th April 2023 • Careers & Coffee • Corridor Careers
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In this podcast we discuss the recent trends in employee onboarding. Joining us is new product manager for Corridor Careers, Becky Lutgen Gardner. Becky brings a wealth of experience as well as recent employee onboarding experience.

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Liz Kennedy:

Hi. Welcome to cruising coffee. I'm Liz

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Kennedy, Product Manager at The Gazette. And I'm here with Becky

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Lynch and Gartner. Welcome Becky.

Becky Lutgen Gardner:

Well, thank you very much. I

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appreciate that list.

Liz Kennedy:

Becky's our new product manager for Corridor

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Careers, we're really happy to have her on the podcast and

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today we're going to be talking about something that makes

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sense. Since Becky's new, it's an employee onboarding. So this

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is something that is always difficult for companies when

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they are short staff, which many are right now is to do proper

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onboarding. I know we're still onboarding you technically,

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Becky, what do you think? Any comments on like someone who's

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moved from the job market into a role recently?

Becky Lutgen Gardner:

Well, I think the interesting part of

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that list is that I think what we've all learned is that

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onboarding is not a short process. And certainly, when you

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have to get the work done in the day, it's also one of those

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things where having it spaced out and over time, as Ben's come

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up as things are happening, actually makes more sense. And

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as somebody who's kind of enjoyed watching, you know, at

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the same time that I'm being able to perform doing that

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extended onboarding, actually, I think makes more sense, in the

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sense of it makes me feel a little bit more connected,

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because it's not a one and done thing. It's not a, okay, we're

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gonna touch this now. And we expect that you know, everything

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you need to know and move on. So, yeah, I think the prolonged

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onboarding, I think, is here to stay. And I think that's a great

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thing.

Liz Kennedy:

Okay, well, that's, that makes me feel better. Um,

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but yeah, I think that I think that's true for any role,

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though, is that well, I mean, there's going to be some roles

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where you're kind of expected to know what you're doing day one,

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and you, you, you enter you, you learn the safety measures, and

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maybe what the particular specifics of the job are, but

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then you kind of know, like, I'm thinking welding or something

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where it's a, it's a trade skill, that you're, you know,

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how to do that skill. And then you just kind of have to know

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how they want you to do that skill. But other roles that

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require like a lot of soft skills, there's nuances to how

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to perform those soft skills. So, I mean, it could take months

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to really get up to speed.

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Well, and I think that's important to know, we all

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have, you know, our expertise in different areas. But again, you

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know, my background has always been in communication. So I, I

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feel like I'm probably a good candidate for onboarding, but

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when you're learning new processes, new systems, new ways

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to do your job, you know, some of those hard things that you

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have to work on, and you're working on different programs,

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different things that need to happen, those are gonna take a

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little bit of time, and get that quite a repertoire over time. To

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show that skill base and being proficient in it, training is a

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big deal. So doing that, and continuing training, as there's

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been, you know, upgrades launches, different

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opportunities, new vendor, on whatever we're doing, I think

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that's another reason I think that onboarding, over a

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prolonged period of time, really is going to make a difference

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for a lot of people. Whether you're a small company or a

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large company.

Liz Kennedy:

Yeah, and I mean, even some of these larger

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companies. Well, even at The Gazette, we used to have a

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dedicated trainer. That was many, many moons ago, but those

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kinds of those days are kind of gone. And so every managers,

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kind of pressed to provide training become an expert in

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training. And in there, to varying levels of success,

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right. So I know that there have been like, over the pandemic,

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many, many job changes have happened simply because when new

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employees were on boarded, they weren't on boarded properly,

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they never felt a sense of satisfaction that they were

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actually accomplishing what they were what they set out to do.

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And I don't know if you have any comments about that.

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So well, and having been in a different position and

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being on boarded, during the pandemic. It was one of those

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things where, you know, you kind of feel this disconnect, I had a

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staff of people that I was working with, and I only do them

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remotely. And so how do we engage? How do we, how do we get

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everybody on that same page? And onboarding is a big part of that

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as well. I do think one of the good things and I think you

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speak to that where, yes, you don't have an individual trader

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now, but I think having a buddy system, having that opportunity

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to really kind of pick and choose that, buddy throughout

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that onboarding process to help learn, I think is even more

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important with as you're talking remote, as well as a person,

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that opportunity to learn from somebody else that's already in

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the trenches that already knows what they're doing. It's a great

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opportunity to ask those questions, and I think it feels

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more personal. And yes, we all can do the online training Some

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things like that, but if that hands on, watching sometimes is

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a little bit more effective, I guess in really retaining the

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information and being able to then duplicate it once, it's

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your chance to say, Hey, I get to go do that now.

Liz Kennedy:

Well, it's a good segue into our next topic, we're

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talking about the new normal. So post pandemic, now we're good,

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we're good bit out of it. As far as the kind of drastic changes

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to our work life have happened. You've been doing some research

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on kind of what the new normal is with regards to work from

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home slash hybrid slash work in person, any thoughts on this new

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this new normal we're in.

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And that new normalized in it's, I think we're here to

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stay, I think we've learned a lot we know we can work remotely

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for the most part in many positions and be effective. But

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we also know that, that personal hands on is so important,

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whether it's talking about onboarding, somebody making them

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feel comfortable within a company, understanding the

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company culture, I think is a big deal going forward, that

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personalization, we've all we've all learned how important it is,

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in job satisfaction to feel that personal connection, how can you

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best do that, especially if it's a hybrid role or or remote. You

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know, it's really having that that ability to have that

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constant communication, and making sure that we're

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personalizing things for people. Because, again, at the end of

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the day onboarding is about learning, learning about the

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company learning and the skills and things that you know that

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you need the technology. But we all learn differently. And we

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all absorb that information differently. So I think, a

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personalization, it's just not handing over a company manual

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and saying, Here you go, it's really taking that next step to

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say, how do you best want to absorb this information? Is

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there another tactic we can take? Is there something else?

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Do you? Do you prefer to watch videos? Do you prefer to have a

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hands on conversation? Do you prefer to do this in person if

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you can. So really learning the people that you're on reporting

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and understanding how they learn, I think is really that

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personalization that you're going to start seeing a lot more

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of post COVID

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was a great thoughts. So we're gonna leave

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anyone today with some tips about onboarding. One of the

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topics that we talked about was kind of having to set a set

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program for your new hires, so that you can kind of walk them

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through over time and allowing that program to last longer than

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just the first week, right. So making sure that you're

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considering that onboarding process, a longer term prod

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project. Any other tips that you thought we touched on here?

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I think the other thing was with COVID, that onboarding,

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that process and agreed that we want to make sure that we can

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extend it as long as necessary. But flexibility, right, we all

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have learned that we need to be flexible when we're working with

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people when we're going through processes, because we all know,

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best intentions, if you didn't get to something by week 234.

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You know, just keep it on that radar, because it doesn't mean

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that your employee still doesn't need to onboard that

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information. So, you know, I think that flexibility and

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making sure that our onboarding processes, we don't abandon

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them, but that we make sure that we continue to if we need to

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pull that out, stretch it out, add to them, that we're flexible

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enough to be able to do that. At the end of the day, that

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personalization, making sure we're touching that employee

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goes such a long way towards really making that person feel

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included involved part of that family that is the workplace,

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because that's that's what we are we we you know, as we're

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working through that with with our our folks understanding,

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that personal touch, I think really is going to make that big

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difference there as

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well. Great thoughts, Becky, I just follow

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up with one more comments as far as as what we've learned over

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time with your onboarding is having a map of that onboarding

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process and just revisiting it regularly is going to help you

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stay on track and make sure you're not leaving holes for

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your new employee so that they fall into a hole a little

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pitfall with their with their new role. The last thing you

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want is a new hire to feel overwhelmed and out of out of

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their depth when it's really just a simple training that you

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need to do with them to make sure they're up to speed on

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everything with communication. If you guys have any comments

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about onboarding, what's working for you, please leave them in

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the comments below and be sure to like and subscribe to our

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YouTube channel, or give us a call at Corridor Careers at

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contact at corridor careers.com. You can give us an email if you

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have ideas for topics for us to cover here on careers and

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coffee, and hope you have a wonderful day

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