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The Deepfake Tipping Point with Frank McKenna
Episode 38014th October 2025 • Fraudology Podcast with Karisse Hendrick • Rolled Up
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In this episode of Fraudology In this must-listen episode of the Fraudology Podcast, host Karisse Hendrick welcomes back fraud prevention expert Frank McKenna, co-founder of Point Predictive. Together, they explore the explosive rise of deepfakes and AI-generated voice clones, revealing how these technologies have reached a disturbing level of realism and accessibility.

Frank shares jaw-dropping examples of recent AI-powered fraud, including:

  • Court cases influenced by deepfakes
  • Real estate scams involving cloned identities
  • Voice cloning extortion attempts
  • And even a chilling story involving his own mother being tricked on a scam video call.

They also discuss alarming new tools like OpenAI’s Sora, capable of generating hyper-realistic celebrity deepfakes, and the emergence of “data sniping”, a tactic where breached personal data is combined with AI content to create highly targeted scams. Whether you’re a fraud analyst, cybersecurity professional, or simply concerned about digital safety, this episode will arm you with crucial insights to recognize and defend against the next generation of AI-enabled deception.

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Fraudology is hosted by Karisse Hendrick, a fraud fighter with decades of experience advising hundreds of the biggest ecommerce companies in the world on fraud, chargebacks, and other forms of abuse impacting a company's bottom line.

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She brings her experience, expertise, and extensive network of experts to this podcast weekly, on Tuesdays.

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