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How to Date in Midlife with Confidence with Kerstin Rao
2nd April 2025 • Joy At Work • Lucia Knight
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Dating in midlife can feel like a minefield—swiping, bad dates, and wondering if you’ll ever meet the right person. But what if there was a better way?

In this episode, I sit down with Kerstin Rao, a midlife dating coach who went from disaster dates to finding her perfect partner by building a dating system that actually works. She shares her most outrageous dating fails (yes, there was a convicted felon), but more importantly, she explains how to date with confidence, clarity, and strategy—without wasting time on the wrong people.


Key Takeaways from This Episode:

✔ Why random dating leads to random results (and how to fix it)

✔ The biggest mistakes midlife daters make—and how to avoid them

✔ How to get crystal clear on what you actually want in a partner

✔ Why dating multiple people at once can help you make better decisions

✔ How treating dating like a career search can get you better results


Midlife dating doesn’t have to be exhausting—with the right mindset and system, it can actually be fun.

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My guest today, Kerstin Rao, is a midlife career changer.

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She walked joyfully away from a successful teaching career and

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created not one, but two businesses.

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One that showcases her fine art talents and the other as a mindset

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dating coach for midlifers.

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Today she shares some of her own hilarious midlife dating disasters,

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which then encouraged her to create a dating system that worked better.

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This resulted in her investing quality time and energy into

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successfully finding her long term partner who is just right for her.

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Kerstin shares some hints on how she did that.

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And if you're watching this on YouTube, I apologize for my facial expressions.

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Let's dive in.

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Kerstin, over the years, you have shared some dating disasters with me,

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but those dating disasters also led to you creating your own method and to

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successfully discovering your husband.

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Please, can you share some of your dating disasters?

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I love sharing these kinds of stories as long as there's always hope at the end.

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I find that people can feast on each other's dating disaster stories to

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the point where they talk themselves out of getting back out there.

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So that is my little caveat before I tell you just a few of my funny stories.

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Because I'm obviously a person who always wants to land on hope.

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So I was single in my forties, mid forties, and I thought,

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Oh, good Lord, what's this?

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And how do I put myself out there?

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I have no idea.

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So I just jumped in the pond, which is something I do.

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I am a leap before I look kind of person sometimes, especially

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when it came to romance.

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I had no playbook.

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So I jumped out there and I wound up dating a bank robber.

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Yeah, convicted felon.

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So just a couple of dates and it was a shame because he was cute and

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talented and a good photographer.

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But he said, I have a policy on my second date.

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I tell, whoever I'm dating the second date, I tell them my story.

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And I said, I'm a School teacher, what do you think the parents

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in my small town are gonna say?

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Like, Oh, she chose a convicted felon.

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That's cool.

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Let's send my kids into that classroom.

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I'm like, oh.

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Oh it, it, it was rough.

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Then I'm dating round and I meet this guy and he seems very clever,

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very artistic, a lot of fun.

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And he gives me a CD of his music.

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And before I go home to listen to the CD, he said, I wrote Greensleeves.

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And I said, my understanding is Greensleeves is a hundreds of years old.

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He said, yeah, that was me.

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What?

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In a past life?

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Multiple past lives, which listen, I am not going to yuck anybody's yum

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because sometimes people discover and unlock things about themselves.

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It just is not what I was looking for in a life partner.

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So I had to just step away from that one.

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So that, yeah, that's, and then, oh dear Lord, this is the third and craziest one.

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So I, connect with some guy.

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He says, I'm going to drive out and we're going to go for a walk on the beach.

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I was like, great.

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He drives up.

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He's like, how do you like my Ferrari?

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This is, he calls it a Ferrari.

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Maybe it was a Ferrari 35 years ago.

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Put it in rust.

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You open it up, you can see the road through the floor.

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I did not get in the car.

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Pro tip, never get in a car with some guy you've just met.

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So we're walking on the beach and the guy says, I've already planned our threesome.

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And I said, WHAT?

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There was nothing in our exchange of information.

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I'm looking for a life partner.

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Not that.

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So bye.

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Okay.

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Oh my God.

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Brilliant.

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So I can see why you looked for a different way.

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So tell me, I really want to know, so you in your role as founder of Curate

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Your Mate, you help clients deal with this messiness of dating in midlife.

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Tell me a little bit more about how you support clients who wish

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to find a long term partner.

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Okay.

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Absolutely.

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By the time clients find me either they have been through some, you

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know, challenging seperation from a partner and they're finding

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themselves in very uncertain territory.

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And some of them have had dates, not unlike my experience where

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they go out there and they are just so mismatched in the dates

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and they just kind of want to give

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up.

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And they'll hear that I'm a dating mindset coach and

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suddenly they'll say what's that?

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And the first thing that we do is what I actually did after that series

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of just disastrous mismatched dates.

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I took a beat and I got still, and I asked myself, How did I

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get to this point in my life?

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What are the things that I'm vulnerable to?

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What were some moves that I made that were not self affirming moves?

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You gotta get honest with yourself about your history.

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Because history will repeat.

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Unless you've analyzed it, look at it, feel it, deal with it, and then set up

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systems to protect yourself from yourself.

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So that's actually what I did.

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I thought, Kerstin, this random approach isn't working.

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The next step after looking at my history was, what am I looking for?

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Let's be real.

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Let's say you go to a restaurant and you say, I am hungry.

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I want food, please.

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What's gonna show up on your table?

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God knows!

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Yeah.

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But if you go in and you sit down and say, I would like a bacon, lettuce, and tomato

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sandwich with rye toast, toasted lightly, light mayonnaise, and then cut diagonally,

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you are much more likely to get what you're, what's going to satisfy you.

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So taking the time to get super specific about the core values that you are looking

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for in a life partner, the attributes, the activities you want to do together.

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And really sit down alone and quiet, not on a dating app, not

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just a casual chat with a friend.

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But take a few days to really write it out.

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Until you look at that list and you say, Oh, when I find this person.

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We're gonna click, we're gonna have so much fun, my life will be

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elevated, his life will be elevated.

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Those are the steps that we take, and then I help them craft a profile

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that's really gonna put themselves forward, and yet in a delicious way.

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A delicious way.

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That sounds intriguing.

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Any hints for actually going on the first date, physical date, that

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you've, you maybe haven't been on a date for a decade or two decades?

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Any advice?

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Oh god, I'm feeling butterflies just remembering what that was like.

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Um, Yeah like, go out and remember that you're the decider.

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I think that's the important thing.

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I'm going to give you some stats before we get there.

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I was single from the signing of my divorce papers to

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meeting my amazing partner.

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I actively dated for an 18 month period.

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And when I say actively, I treated it like a full time second job.

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I had spreadsheets, I took notes after the dates.

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Let me tell you something.

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I put in the hours and the time.

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Took it very seriously because for me, I was looking for something serious.

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A lot of people that I've met and coached have kind of an arm's length.

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I'm maybe dating.

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And I'm like, then you're going to get maybe results.

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Brilliant.

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So

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all in?

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it all in, have your little plan for the traps that you

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know, like I built in systems.

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I was like what do you do if you make too much out of the thing?

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Do a lot of research, like talk to a lot of people.

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Ask them about their dating, watch some TED talks, just get into the whole thing.

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treat it like, really treat it like a career because it's that important.

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It is that important but I realized I should probably be not

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dating just one person at a time.

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One person, I fixate and I try to make it work no matter what.

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Multiple people, suddenly, it's more like Consumer Reports I'm the

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shopper and I'm like what does this cost versus what does this cost?

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How many calories does this have and does this have like almond flour or whatever?

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So you can be more analytical if you're dating a few people at the same time.

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Okay.

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reminded me that I'm The decision maker.

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I can take my time.

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This is an important life decision.

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And it just re centered me into myself.

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And what was really going to light me up.

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And when I finally did meet the right guy I can't even tell you.

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It has been the best relationship for me at this point in my life

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that I can possibly imagine.

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And that's why I do what I do.

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I want other women to keep the faith in themselves.

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Keep getting out there because by putting yourself out there with a system

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in place, you're really increasing your chances of being so happy.

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If you enjoyed this, you might also enjoy my Life Satisfaction Assessment.

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It's a 30 minute program where I guide you through a deep dive into 10 areas

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of your life to assess what's bringing you joy and what's bringing you down.

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I call it Derailed.

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It's a fabulous place to begin a joy at work redesign.

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