In this episode of the Daily Bible Podcast, the hosts reflect on a successful church camp event and offer gratitude for the efforts made by the organizers. They then discuss personal and collective challenges, including Pastor Rod's current health issues and the significance of male friendship in the church community, as exemplified by David and Jonathan's bond. The conversation transitions to a chronological reading of 1 Samuel chapters 18-20, juxtaposed with Psalms 59 and 11. The hosts dive deep into David's trials, his unwavering trust in God, and the imprecatory Psalms, providing advice on their application for Christians today. Listeners are encouraged to invest in meaningful friendships and to draw strength and wisdom from the biblical passages discussed.
00:00 Introduction and Camp Out Recap
00:50 Unexpected Challenges at the Camp
02:02 Pastor Rod's Health Concerns
04:13 Upcoming Events and Prayer Requests
04:43 Daily Bible Reading: Entering the Psalms
05:37 David and Jonathan's Friendship
09:00 Saul's Jealousy and David's Escape
12:49 Imprecatory Psalms Explained
16:22 Jonathan's Covenant with David
17:48 Psalm 11: Trusting God in Troubled Times
19:03 Closing Prayer and Final Thoughts
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Hey everybody.
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:We made it.
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:We are back after the camp out.
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:It's another edition of
the Daily Bible Podcast.
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:Yes, and thank the Lord.
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:It was a great event.
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:Mark, Allie, your whole team,
did a superb job at organizing at
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:running it Lewis with the games.
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:It was great, man.
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:It was just, I heard multiple people say
this was their favorite event that they've
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:been a part of at Compass Bible Church.
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:Is that right?
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:That's really cool, man.
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:I'm, that's a high bar.
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:That is a high bar.
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:That's a, that's pretty cool.
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:Now, one of them happened to be Patrick
Chen, whose family won Best family.
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:Oh yeah.
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:You win best family, of
course you're gonna love it.
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:Yeah.
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:And then I think the arses came in second.
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:They put the trophy on
the hood of their car.
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:They like attached it as a hood ornament
to That's cool hood of their car.
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:So I think that will decrease your
efficiency probably a little bit.
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:Yeah.
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:Although it's a tiny trophy.
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:The second place is small first
place, massive second place.
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:Not as massive.
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:But no, it was a great time, man.
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:We, last night the park police showed up.
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:They wanted to see our permit,
which is understandable.
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:Okay, fine, whatever.
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:But they showed up at 1145 what I know.
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:And so unbelievable.
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:Thankfully, Allie happened to be
one of the people still awake at
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:that point, and she has the permit.
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:So she showed the, rent a cop there.
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:Here's our permit.
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:We're allowed to be here.
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:And then he turned into nice guy.
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:And then the police showed
up to go down and chase other
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:people out of other campsites.
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:That Irwin Park.
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:There were gunshots too, man.
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:Irwin Park.
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:It's like Compton.
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:I didn't know this, but McKinney,
you have experience in Compton.
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:Y you would be shocked, man.
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:I, me and Compton, mean
Compton go way back.
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:Way back straight outta.
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:Wow.
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:I'm actually not, I don't, but no.
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:There, there were some gunshots that
people were talking about and this
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:is coming from reputable sources.
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:Stephen Little said he heard
gunshots going off in the forest.
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:This is where we're taking
our church to go camping.
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:Amen.
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:I said it was a great event.
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:I didn't say it's a great location.
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:Yeah.
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:The, we had the bathrooms were locked,
so we had porta-potties the whole time.
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:Yeah.
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:I heard that they were broken.
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:They were broken.
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:Yeah.
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:There was a pipe that burst in one
of the bathrooms, so you know that it
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:could have been worse, but man, it was.
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:It was just, it was great.
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:It was good fellowship, good time.
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:Weather was perfect.
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:Aside from everything else, pastor
Rod you're let's just draw attention
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:to the elephant in the room.
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:You don't sound like yourself.
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:This whenever it is,
they're listening to this.
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:Yeah.
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:I don't know what's going on.
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:You can pray for my voice and my.
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:My, everything in my nasal passage.
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:I don't know.
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:What's something I,
maybe I have laryngitis.
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:It sounds like it.
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:It sounds like it, but I have no idea.
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:I've never had this before.
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:This is a new territory for me.
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:I haven't been sleeping
super great either.
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:I don't know what to make of that.
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:I've been waking up about
three o'clock every night.
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:I.
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:Every morning, and I'm unable to shut off.
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:Like I just, so I just
lay there, I toss, I turn.
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:And it's one of those things where
I'm like, okay, are is there something
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:happening in my body or just something
happening in my heart and my soul
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:that I'm just, I'm stressed out
by something and I don't know it.
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:I don't have an answer to that.
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:I just know that I've been wrestling
and so I'm not sure if this is related
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:to it or if it's, I don't know.
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:Adjacent.
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:Yeah.
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:I just know that I've had better
days, but I've also had worse too.
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:So even though I sound I don't know,
whatever I sound like right now I just.
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:I've had worse days.
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:I don't feel as awful as I sound.
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:So here's the follow up question for you.
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:Would you like, because you've just
told a church full of people who
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:love you, that you have laryngitis.
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:So would you like everybody's remedies
for how to cure your laryngitis?
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:I've already got a couple people
at the the church camp out who told
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:me what they thought I should do.
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:One was about a summer told
me I needed to eat garlic.
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:Okay.
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:And gargle.
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:What was it?
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:I forget.
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:Did get this I remember the garlic part.
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:Salt water.
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:Oh was it honey water and more
teaspoon of honey, something like that.
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:Every two hours she said, and she
said for me it like resolved it
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:over the course of 24, 48 hours, but
she had to do it every two hours.
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:She's so I got up in
the middle of the night.
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:I did it anyway.
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:If it's easy, it doesn't
require me to do a whole lot.
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:I'm totally willing to hear it.
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:Ramin told me to gargle with typical
salt water, antiseptic, or I guess salt
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:water too would probably work, but sure.
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:I'm open to it.
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:I.
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:I don't expect me to talk a whole lot.
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:I guess I'll listen to you, but I
won't be asking a ton of questions.
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:It takes a lot of energy to talk
right now for obvious reasons.
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:Totally.
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:Besides that I'll happily take that dude.
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:I'm just saying if if you're
gonna have garlic every two hours,
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:then she said, I smelled awful.
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:Kristen and the kids may go back camping.
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:They may leave you and go camp again.
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:Dude, I probably smelled
worse than that though, Sue.
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:I think it'll be okay.
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:Yeah.
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:That was camp Out was great.
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:Thanks for you guys that we're
praying who weren't there.
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:Please be praying for Pastor Rod's
voice to recover and get strong.
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:We've got a big weekend
coming up next weekend.
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:I don't know if you guys realize
that, that's like a, it's a big deal.
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:It's one of the highest holy
days that we have as the church.
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:It's arguably the ar Yeah I
can't think of a bigger one.
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:Christmas is important, but.
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:Christmas is here because of
Easter, because of what we're
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:celebrating on on Sunday.
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:So pray for Pastor Rod's voice, pray
that it would come back to full strength
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:and that nobody else would get sick.
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:In the meantime, that'd be my good Friday.
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:Yep.
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:Yeah, that would be super helpful.
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:We would appreciate that.
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:Alright, let's jump into
our daily Bible reading.
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:We are starting to wade into
the territory of the Psalms now.
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:We've hit a couple Psalms already,
but we're gonna start to hit
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:a lot of them because we are
entering into the life of David.
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:And as David is one of the
most prolific psalmists.
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:We have others in the book
of Psalms, but David, I.
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:Is attributed with the majority
of the Psalms that we read.
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:So those, because of the chronological
plan will be sprinkled in.
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:So come to expect that some of
them are gonna be quite obvious
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:where it's got a direct connection.
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:In fact, I think in our reading today,
there's a pretty direct connection where
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:you can go, okay, this makes sense.
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:He wrote it at this time.
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:In fact, some of the super prescriptions
of the psalms will tell you those things.
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:Other times it's.
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:The editors and the people that made
this plan, it's their best guess of
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:when to read these psalms in concert
with what's going on in David's life.
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:The words of the Psalms are inspired.
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:Their placement alongside the
chronological reading plan, that's an
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:editorial decision, and so we're, we'll
do the best that we can to roll with it.
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:But we get in chapter 18, we are
after now David and Goliath and David
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:has been recognized for his bravado
and his courage and his victory.
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:Three.
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:And yet he's the one that is
pointing to God through this all.
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:And Jonathan.
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:Hello, Jonathan Saul's son.
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:It says there in verse one, as
soon as David had finished speaking
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:to Saul, the soul of Jonathan
was knit to the soul of David and
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:Jonathan loved him as his own soul.
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:Pastor Rod.
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:Last year we did our men's
retreat and talked about male.
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:Friendship, and this is probably
the preeminent example of of
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:biblical male friendship at work
here between David and Jonathan.
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:Yeah.
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:And it's a shame that this relationship
has often been twisted to be
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:something else for so many reasons.
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:And one of the things that I often
see in this passage is that the tip,
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:the male friendship as I idealized in
scriptures, doesn't look like almost
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:anything that we see today, right?
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:Anyone that has a friendship.
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:This close, and that's probably our loss.
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:That's sincerely something that
I feel a burden for, even though
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:I don't know how to fix it.
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:Our culture is just different and maybe
that's some of the thing that's happening
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:here where the translation doesn't
quite make sense, but I think there is
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:a lot left on the table between male
relationships and it's the Jonathan David.
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:A paradigm that gives me that sense of
saying there's clearly something more.
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:There's another gear to male friendships
that a lot of us don't know, in part
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:because we're busy doing our own things.
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:We're busy running our own ways.
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:But man, this is something I
think if you're a lady and you
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:know that your husband doesn't
have very many good friends this
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:is something worth praying about.
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:This is something that God uses to
preserve our relationship in him and
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:also to keep us running the race.
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:Having a good brother by your
side can make a ton of difference
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:when you're going through.
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:The valley of the shadow of
death to use David's terms.
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:So pray for your husband if he has male
friendships, to have deep and honest
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:and real and genuine male friendships.
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:And if he doesn't have that,
pray all the more that God would
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:help him to identify these men.
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:Yeah.
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:And men, if you're listening to this
and you would say, Hey that's me.
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:I don't have super close
friendships with other guys.
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:Then are you availing yourself
to those friendships forming?
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:Are you involved in a community group?
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:Are you involved in men's
Bible study when we have it?
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:Are you coming on our men's retreat?
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:Men's retreat is one of the.
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:The best areas to and opportunities
to deepen friendships with
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:other guys at the church.
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:You're gonna be with them for about 24
hours of pretty highly condensed time,
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:and there's gonna be opportunities
to do free time events together,
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:but just to sit and talk with each
other over meals and everything else.
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:This is a great opportunity, men to sign
up for our men's retreat and come and be a
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:part of this and build into the foundation
of what will be some great relationships.
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:If you're sitting there and you're
not involved in a community group,
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:you, you're not involved in men's
bible study you would look at men's
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:retreat and go I don't wanna be there.
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:Then you sit there and you say and I just
don't have any friends at the church.
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:Then pick up a mirror and stare
hard into the mirror because
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:the problem's not the church.
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:The problem is your attitude
about whether or not you want to
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:invest in these relationships.
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:Not to be overly harsh, but I think
that the opportunities are there.
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:I, and I say that because I know
how awesome so many of the men in
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:our church are, and we've got a
plethora of men in the church that.
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:Would benefit anyone to get to
know and build friendships with.
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:I know there's plenty of men in the church
who just bless me in the areas that I get
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:to know them and spend time with them.
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:So that's why I'm coming down so strong
on that, is because the, there, it's good
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:for you to invest in these connections,
these relationships as Jonathan in.
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:David grow close together.
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:David and Saul begin to separate, and
not that they were ever super close,
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:but verses six through 16 in chapter
eight, David's military endeavors
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:and prowess begins to drive a wedge
between him and Saul because Saul
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:wants the glory that David is getting
and so much so that it prompts Saul.
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:Not for the only time as we'll.
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:Find out to pick up a spear and try to s.
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:To, to spear David to death.
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:That's a problem.
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:And thankfully he fails.
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:And so then after this, Saul takes David
and puts him over a thousand of his troops
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:in order to get him out of his presence.
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:A weird.
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:Manic relationship here between
Saul and David, but Saul's view
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:of David is this weird mixture
of jealousy and fear and hatred.
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:And so what he's gonna do then in
the rest of the chapter here is
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:he's gonna say, okay, how can I.
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:How can I make sure that
David's gonna be on my side?
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:And the way he's gonna do that is gonna
give David his daughter Mical in marriage.
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:And so Mical is gonna become
David's wife, and it's an alliance.
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:It's just a strange alliance because this
is an alliance between two rival kings.
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:I guess theoretically we
could argue that, but not yet.
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:At least this is an alliance between Saul
and his servant David, and wanted to make
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:sure that he and David are on the same
same wavelength, same team, so to speak.
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:But Saul knows what's going on.
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:Look at verses 28 and 29 of chapter 18.
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:When Saul saw and knew that
the Lord was with David, he
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:was even more afraid of David.
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:And so Saul was David's enemy continually.
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:So Saul begins to suspect as God
has already told Saul, Hey, the
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:kingdom's not gonna remain with you.
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:That maybe David is the guy that
the kingdom's going to when as
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:sooner comes to take Annie's hand.
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:Oof.
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:Will you require the same bride price?
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:Yes depending on the man.
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:I don't know where he is
gonna find Philistines.
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:Around 200 of them on top of that, right?
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:200 men.
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:Yikes.
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:Yeah.
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:Stick a pin in the name Mical, by the way.
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:She's gonna come back up later on in
the story in not so much of a positive
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:light, but, anyways chapter 19 me call
comes up sooner than later because
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:there's a, an assassination plot that
is discovered and Jonathan Dissuades,
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:his father from killing David, even
manages to make it so David could
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:return to the King's presence again.
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:But that doesn't last long
as, again, here comes.
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:Spear number two, Saul tries to
kill David, and so then Saul's gonna
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:send soldiers to David's house to
arrest him and basically hold him
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:captive until he can kill him.
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:Nicole learns about it and she
tells David and David escapes.
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:Now she takes a household idle, which
she shouldn't have but she does, and she
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:puts some hair on it and lays it in the
bed, and it deceives the guards there.
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:Mical delivers David, but even the
fact that she's got a household idol
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:foreshadowing of the fact that Mical
may not be on, on the best terms with
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:the God of Israel here rest of chapter
19, you get this weird scene where Saul
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:pursues David and, there's messengers
that, that are sent out there, and
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:Saul eventually goes after him himself
and they all end up prophesying.
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:And this is strange because you'll
remember Saul prophesied after Samuel
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:said, Hey, you're gonna be king.
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:And that was to confirm his role as king.
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:Here.
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:It seems more to humiliate Saul in,
there's more things that he does in
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:concert with this disrobing in the such.
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:But I think this is too.
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:Humiliate Saul and for Saul to be reminded
by God, Hey, you're not in control.
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:Look what I can make you do
if I want you to do this.
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:And so that's kinda what
happens there in chapter 19.
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:Chapter 59 then is of Psalm 59.
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:I think is good to jump in and
cover here because of the context.
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:I, I mentioned some directly connect
there and here it says a Mik Tom of
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:David when Saul sent men to watch
his house in order to kill him.
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:So we just read about that in
one Samuel 19 and here we read
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:the psalm that David wrote.
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:Reflecting back on that appealing to his
innocence he has an imprecatory plea.
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:Maybe let's introduce
that concept briefly here.
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:'cause we're gonna read more direct
Imprecatory psalms, but the psalms were.
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:Where David is praying for judgment
against his enemies pr, do you want to
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:address how we should go about reading
those as far as when we approach them,
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:the best way for us to benefit from them
and how we should think about application?
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:Let's start off by saying that the
application of an imprecatory psalm is
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:difficult for the New Testament Christian
who has been told to forgive his enemies.
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:God's enemies.
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:On the other hand, I think there is
a place to use an a precatory psalm.
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:So let's just frame this under
the Old Testament covenant, under,
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:even in his particular here, the
Davidic Covenant, where God said,
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:I'm gonna make you a sure house.
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:I'm gonna bless you.
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:You're gonna be my king.
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:A king naturally has enemies,
and in this case, the king's
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:enemies are God's enemies.
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:These are not just personal vendettas.
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:And so when David prays
an imprecatory psalm.
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:A Psalm that praise
curses upon his enemies.
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:This is not David saying, I just don't
like the way that you treated me.
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:I'm gonna, I'm gonna deal with you.
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:I'm gonna ask God to curse you.
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:This is not a, a little foible.
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:This is not something that
is, is David having a bad day?
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:This is God's king, God's representative,
leadership, doing a righteous thing,
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:a righteous act, which in this case is
calling down judgment, which is what God
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:will do for everyone who opposes him.
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:You read here in verse eight.
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:You, oh Lord.
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:Laugh at them.
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:It sounds a lot like Psalm
chapter two where it says,
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:kiss the sun lest he be angry.
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:The Lord will laugh in
derision against his enemies.
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:And so what you have here is a microcosm
of the larger picture of Jesus rulership.
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:So everything that you see here
ultimately points to Jesus and its
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:fulfillments of Jesus judgment of the
nations that will not bow the knee.
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:And that here in glimpses in David.
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:So that's where it fits in the Old
Testament or in the narrative of
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:redemption history in the story of
redemption history as a New Testament
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:Christian, I don't think we're often gonna
be using these because we don't have, I.
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:The same kind of position David did.
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:However, again, I will say
for God's enemies I don't
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:think they're off the table.
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:In fact, I prayed against Planned
Parenthood with Imprecatory Psalms
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:and granted, I'm praying against
an organization and not a person,
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:but I have used the CEO's name
before and say, Lord, stop her.
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:Yeah.
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:I use these kinds of psalms to, to help
inspire and motivate a righteous prayer,
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:hopefully a righteous indignation,
but I would say handle them carefully.
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:Yeah I just thought, just popped into
my head when you were talking about that
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:in, I think one Corinthians six when our
chapter, sorry, chapter five, when Paul
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:is confronting the church there for having
somebody in the midst that's in an immoral
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:relationship with somebody that he says,
even the world wouldn't do these things.
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:And then it says in there, you need
to discipline him outta the church.
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:You need to turn him over to Satan
for the destruction of his flesh, lest
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:his soul should perish also, which
would imply that perhaps this guy.
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:Didn't forfeit his soul eternally.
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:But there, I wonder if there's a
measure of imprecatory ju prayers
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:that we can pray such that it's God we
desire the salvation of your enemies.
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:We desire that they would repent
and believe, but in the meantime, I.
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:Stop them, whatever means necessary, stop
them from doing what they're doing there.
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:I think that's a really interesting and
helpful framing of that, because you're
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:right, Jesus does say to pray for your
enemies pray for those who persecute you.
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:Love your enemies.
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:Give them food and give them water.
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:Give 'em shelter.
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:You're putting, burning
coals in their head.
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:So again I would make a
distinction between our enemies.
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:We're not the Davidic king.
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:We're not the Messiah.
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:And God's enemies, for God's enemies.
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:I feel the preparatory psalm still have
a place for my personal enemies saying
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:and I may say, oh man they're against
me because I'm a Christian maybe.
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:And if that's a case, this is
a place for me to display that
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:kind of love and affection.
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:But when it comes to something
that's clear and evidently
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:opposed to God's rulership in his
authority, in our lives again I
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:feel like these still have a place.
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:Yeah.
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:Chapter 20 then, as we jump back into
First Samuel first Samuel 20, we get
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:here more on David and Jonathan and
the development of the relationship.
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:This is gonna be a chapter that includes
a covenant that's entered into, and
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:what's worth note here is Jonathan
understands that the kingdom is going to
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:David and he is treating David that way.
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:He's talking about David that way,
and in fact he even says, look if
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:my father wants to do you harm.
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:And something befall you.
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:I'm gonna let you know.
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:And then he says, and David,
here's what I'm asking of you.
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:If something happens to
me, take care of my family.
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:And that's this covenant relationship
that they enter into this mutual care
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:and concern for one another's wellbeing.
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:And David's gonna follow
through with this down the road.
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:We're gonna find that out with one of
Jonathan's sons named Mephibosheth.
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:But this is again, just the Jonathan is
a commendable guy, and we only get such a
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:brief snapshot of Jonathan's life because.
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:It's not gonna last for very much longer,
but he's a commendable guy and I, I.
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:I hope and believe that in eternity
we'll get to find out more about him
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:But he and David have this unique
relationship and the plot in
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:chapter 20 eventually reveals what
David suspected to be the case.
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:And it's such a great cost here
because Saul goes off on his son.
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when he realized what was happening.
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in verses 41 through 42, just a moving
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one another and their commitment
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:Psalm 11.
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:Then as we.
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:Conclude not entirely sure of the
placement of this psalm, but thematically
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:it does work here in the Psalm, David asks
the unknown counselor how they can advise
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:him to run for his life when it was God
whom he trusts and he's still reigning.
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:God is, and he's still aware of all that
men plot and do so even back in, in Psalm
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is still present here.
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:And so that's gonna be an
interesting tension in David's life.
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:David is gonna run from his life so
often, but all at the same time in
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:the Psalms we're gonna read that he
expresses a confidence and a trust in
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:God despite the fact that he's running.
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:He's not running
thinking, man, this is it.
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:I need to take care of
myself because God can't.
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:He's understanding.
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:And this is that whole idea of God's
sovereignty and our circumstances and.
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:Evil befalling us and everything else.
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:And I think David is a great example
of somebody who trusts that God, a
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before us, but he's not gonna then
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:He's still gonna say, you know what?
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:If Saul's got a spear, I'm gonna run.
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:I'm gonna dodge that spear and trust
that's, God ordain my steps as well.
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:So Psalm 11.
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:A great psalm about fleeing and
taking refuge and needing to trust
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:the Lord in the midst of the troubles
and persecutions that befall us.
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:Well, lemme pray and then we
will be done with this episode.
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:God give us great wisdom to know
even as we were talking about in
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:preparatory prayers and in Psalms,
we want to be careful with those
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:and we want to know that our right
righteous indignation is an in.
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:Indignation is an anger that is rooted
in the offense being against you more
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:than it is the offense being against us.
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:And so helps us to learn from passengers
like this and sections like this so
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:that we can we can act in accordance
with what you would have us do.
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:And so we thank you for these texts and
we thank you for the life of David, the
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:friendship that he has with Jonathan
and the example that he is for us.
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:Godly friendships like that
to saturate our church.
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:We pray Jesus' name, amen.
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:Amen.
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:Keep reading your Bibles.
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:Tune in again tomorrow for another
edition of the Daily Bible Podcast.
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:Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to another
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:PJ: Yeah.
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:I would agree with
everything that you said