The Power of Teamwork in Achieving a Vision: "Both roles are as important as the other, because if the visionary has to do everything herself or himself, they're probably not going to make it happen." - Betty Collins
I’m so excited to bring you part one of our special Visionary Awards series, where we honor incredible women who have scaled their businesses and brought their visions to life. Today, I’m joined by two outstanding guests—Jill Frey, president and CEO of Cummins Facility Services, and Purba Majumder, an inspiring immigrant founder and CEO of Cybervation Inc., both of whom were finalists alongside me for the NAWBO Columbus Visionary Award.
In this episode, we share our personal stories about what it really takes to scale a company, the winding journey of becoming a visionary, and why the people who support us along the way are just as important as the vision itself. We open up about our challenges, our proudest moments, and the vital roles of those who stand beside us—whether they’re cheering us on, pouring into our growth, or simply helping us keep going.
If you’re a woman in business—whether you see yourself as a visionary or you’re the one making things happen behind the scenes—there’s something here for you. Join us for honest conversations, practical wisdom, and a big dose of inspiration from women who understand what it takes. Let’s keep lifting each other up and helping one another rise.
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00:00 Scaling Visionary Women
04:59 Grateful for NAWBO Visionary Award
06:31 Trailblazer Staffing & Bistro ux Ventures
10:25 Nabo's Impact on My Journey
13:27 "Guiding Through Support and Wisdom"
19:09 Supporting Fellow Entrepreneurs
22:23 Founding Cool Tech Girls
24:43 Collective Support Fuels Cool Tech Girls
28:43 Women Supporting Visionary Women
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Welcome to another episode of Inspiring Women, the podcast that celebrates the stories of extraordinary women from all walks of life. I am your host, Betty Collins. Join us for an inspiring conversation that will leave you ready to take on the world. So today on Inspiring Women, we are in the midst of kind of a theme of women who scale and how do they scale and how do they get there. And sometimes all we do is we look at women who are already there and like, they never had to scale. They never had to go through this process to get there. Right. I haven't always been the Betty Collins as I call myself or I haven't always been a shareholder.
Betty Collins [:I have always, you know, there's all those things that people think, this is what I've done my entire life. It's like, no, I had to scale. I had to scale up like most people that have that success in their life and they realize that if you go straight up a hill, you'll be tired. If you go through a nice period paced way to go, you will make it further and you'll do more. So we're going to talk to some women today who have scaled. These are women who are big deals, certainly in central Ohio and even beyond. Really, they're going to talk a little bit about their story and being a visionary and scaling as they have. So we're going to kind of emphasize a little more of the visionary today because we just the three of us, and I'll let them introduce themselves in a minute.
Betty Collins [:We, we all were nominees for NAWBO Columbus's Visionary Awards. And that's a big deal in Columbus because NAWBO is a big deal. I cannot emphasize enough. If you're in anywhere in the US and there's a NAWBO group and you're a businesswoman owner, you need to go and join. But NAWBO Columbus has always done and really honored visionaries. And so we're going to talk today what it meant to be part of that as well as what it took to be the visionary. And you know, everyone has a different definition. At first I was going to look up in the Webster's Dictionary what's visionary? And then I said, no, what's visionary? What's a visionary according to Betty Collins.
Betty Collins [:So I look at it as somebody who has an ability to see, right? And they see something that they either want to do or who they want to be or what impact they want to have in their world or in their industry, etc. So I look at someone who can see it, but it really goes further than that because if someone who not just sees what they want to do, it's. They actually make it a reality, that to me is a visionary. That to me is the person that is that person. And not all of us are visionaries, you know, not all of us are visionaries. So there's really two type of people we're going to talk to today. We're going to talk to two visionaries. We're also going to talk about supporting the visionary.
Betty Collins [:So you're either the visionary or you're supporting that vision coming to reality. And both roles are as important as the other, because if the visionary has to do everything herself or himself, they're probably not going to make it happen. So there has to be those people around you that go, I'm into the vision and I'm going to support this vision that that's going on. And we'll talk about that a little bit today. So I'm going to have them introduce themselves. I'll have Jill Fry go first from Cummins, and she can Talk about your 32nd, who you are and what you.
Purba Majumbder [:Thanks.
Jill Frey [:First of all, I just want to say thank you, Betty. You're a mentor to me and I love you dearly. And you always set me on my true north, my path, and I'm grateful for you for that.
Betty Collins [:But I take your energy and then I use it. So you're good.
Jill Frey [:I'm Jill Fry and I am president and CEO of Cummins Facility Services. We are a national janitorial company. Right now, we're international. So super fun about that. Let's see. I've been in this company for. The company's been alive for 53 years. I've been working for 25.
Jill Frey [:My parents started it about five years ago. I started in technology. So I have my little bracelet on. I started a global consortium called Facility Data Standard that enables your building to talk. So buildings are starting to talk. We're using a lot of technology to enable buildings to talk. And so that is my vision and that's my dream. But we.
Jill Frey [:We sling mops and we clean things, but hopefully we'll have robots slinging mops.
Betty Collins [:Doing more of that. Yes.
Jill Frey [:Thank you.
Betty Collins [:And you haven't always been this huge company with robots and technology. We have a long way to talk about your vision.
Jill Frey [:Yeah. We started in one town.
Betty Collins [:Yep.
Jill Frey [:In Marion, Ohio.
Betty Collins [:Yep.
Jill Frey [:Yep.
Betty Collins [:And now you're everywhere.
Jill Frey [:Now we're everywhere in Canada. And so it's been a really fun journey and a great dream.
Betty Collins [:Right. So Jill and I do a lot of things together. And so when we both realized we were both being nominated for Nabo, we were kind of laughing. Then we ended up being in the top three. But the winner of the Navo 2025 is Purva. And Purva, you have such a story and you have such a man. What a path you've gone and made such impact. So tell us a little bit about you.
Purba Majumbder [:First of all, thank you so much for inviting me. So sitting right here, you know, with two honorees such as Jill and Betty Collins, means a lot and I'm truly humbled. It is very, very overwhelming. So thank you for that. Nabo, you know, in general, I think, you know, promotes visionaries and it's not just about building business, but also the impact, which is why I respect Nabo and Nabo Visionary Award so much. So it means a lot to me as far as my business goes. I came here as an immigrant, I was a student, did not have any money, I was on Scholarship. The first business, the first job I started, I was with the corporate for 15 years.
Purba Majumbder [:But then within that 15 years I realized that I wanted to do something more along with my husband. We actually co founded the business in 1998 while working for corporations. So it has been a very long journey. In 2010 I quit my full time job. We built the company without any external funding and we built it piece by piece, step by step. We added it started as a IT software development company. Then we built different other divisions within the company. CyberVision and the IT division has IC staffing.
Purba Majumbder [:Then we build the Trailblazer division, Trailblazer Staffing Solutions which is the medical staffing. We do nurse staffing. We also do allied and other kinds of medical healthcare staffing. Then the third division we opened is a product that we created from scratch, very similar to some of the other online ordering platforms. It's called Bistro ux and we have restaurants all over the country that use that platform for online ordering, coupons, gift cards, loyalty programs, marketing and everything. So it's a lot of things that we've done over many years. It's over 25 years that we've built. So a lot of learning and building and going from there.
Betty Collins [:But I would say probably both of you with everything that you've had to do and 25 years, and you're both 25 years. I'm a little older than these ladies, but we won't talk about that because I'm almost 40 years into doing all this, right? But during the journey, you know, during the scaling and being that visionary, one of the things I loved about. Because one of our questions I want you to answer kind of in two part is the bigger. The biggest part of that night for me was the 12 people that went with me.
Jill Frey [:Yeah, absolutely.
Betty Collins [:I thought we'll buy a table. Nobody will want to go. It's Friday night from 6 to 11 or whatever they were talking about. And we had to buy more table tickets because we had people who wanted to go beyond the eight. And to me, that was what the heart of it was for me. And it was because that support. These were people who were continuing to be the supporter of the visionary. Right.
Betty Collins [:And so tell us and we'll go back to Jill of what meant to you. Kind of a personal thing there. But what was it that you loved? Tell us about your visionary supporters in your life and then we'll go to.
Jill Frey [:You had a table as well.
Betty Collins [:Yeah.
Jill Frey [:And so I hate saying this, but my birthday was the next day.
Betty Collins [:Oh, wow. Yeah.
Jill Frey [:So.
Betty Collins [:So what a weekend.
Purba Majumbder [:Yeah.
Betty Collins [:Right.
Jill Frey [:It was whirlwind.
Betty Collins [:Yeah.
Jill Frey [:So my team loves to celebrate with me for my birthday. So I got. I gave all the girls. We had only girls at the table. And I gave them all an allowance to go buy a new dress or new shoes or both. And. And then I got their hair done at Pennzone. So we started the day at noon.
Betty Collins [:Oh, wow.
Jill Frey [:And dolled up. They were all dolled up. They were so excited. They were just hooping, you know, they don't get to do this, like probably prom.
Betty Collins [:Right, right.
Jill Frey [:And so they were so excited. And some of them have never been to a visionary event or a woman's event.
Betty Collins [:Yeah.
Jill Frey [:And so they were so thankful. They loved seeing everything. They loved seeing our congresswoman.
Betty Collins [:Yeah.
Jill Frey [:They loved seeing her. So that was fantastic.
Betty Collins [:Yeah.
Jill Frey [:But just to understand and to the comments.
Betty Collins [:Right.
Jill Frey [:Was part of the visionary experience. They were so proud. They were so honored. It was just a lot of fun that I got to share it with them. And they could see other visionaries and they got to see how they worked and how they did things and how we do things. So that was the special part was we all celebrated the visionary. We celebrated the company. We celebrated getting all dressed up and being girls, being women.
Jill Frey [:Right. And just clinging on together and just bonding and just having a good girls night out, if you will. So that was. That was my choice and I got to do with my daughter.
Betty Collins [:Yeah.
Jill Frey [:So that was really fun.
Betty Collins [:Yeah. And if you see Jill, you see Savannah. If you see Savannah, you see Jill.
Purba Majumbder [:So.
Betty Collins [:So purple. What about for you? What was the personal connection and you know, what was the enjoyment of the evening for you?
Purba Majumbder [:So Nabo has been, you know, has played a big role. When, you know, I left my corporate job, I was, you know, going to Nabo. A lot of the women who support me, who have championed me over the years that are the women that I learned from, you know, and there are so many that come to mind, like, they really were connections from Nabo. So it meant a lot to be, you know, it just brought the memories back when I first went to Nabo and how I was listening to everybody and then to be recognized with this award, it was something that I've never dreamt of. Like, it was truly a very, very special moment. Like, I could never imagine this moment. So it meant a lot.
Betty Collins [:It was awesome because when she. They had us all go on stage, you know, and it wasn't like we were pushing each other off the stage or anything. We were just in it. Celeste was like, it was an honor to be on the stage. It was an honor. And I loved buying the dress, of course. But you were funny because when they said your name, she goes, I didn't prepare speech. I didn't think I'd win.
Betty Collins [:So it was just an exciting time. And what you said, going back to. Yeah, you motivated and energized your team. I can't believe your daughter didn't walk away from that going, this is my mom. This is where she. This is how a community sees her. And so what your work is really important. So one of the things.
Betty Collins [:And you guys have already probably heard this several times because I've said it, but we'll go into the visionary support that you have. So to me, there's several type of women in your life or people in your life. Men could be this role as well. But I haven't stopped talking about this. Everyone's tired of me talking about it, but I watched a prime series called David and Goliath. I'm sorry, the House of David. And it's about David and Goliath. So we're not here to have a biblical story.
Betty Collins [:But I really love. I was during tax season, I was tired and I'm sick. And I took a couple days and I worked out of the house and I watched this series. And it wasn't so much about David killed Goliath or he was going to be king or all those factors. It was who helped him get there. It was. And so of course, he had his mom and dad. His mom on her deathbed, died very young.
Betty Collins [:I don't know if that's true or not, but it's a story, like. And she said to her husband, who was grieving because he's a young boy, you know, he's a shepherd boy, they kind of protect him anyways. He's the younger guy in the family. But she said, you let him rise. That was her deathbed wish, right? And he's looking at his son going, this is all I have left of the love of my life. But he kind of held on to him, probably lived through him. But what he really did was he poured his life into him and he protected him and made sure he was ready for dangerous moments or tougher moments. And he had his back.
Betty Collins [:But then it always haunted him, those words of his wife saying, you need to let him rise where he's protecting, pouring into him, giving him all the wisdom he has and making sure he had his back. So nothing got to him. But when it was time for his moment, David was ready, and he could seize the moment. He could seize the opportunity. Now, this is two parents in a story, whether you believe this story or not. But it's a real thing. Thing in life today. When you have those two type of people in your life who see the passion, the plan, and the purpose, they're not.
Betty Collins [:They don't know it. They don't have it. It's not what they're seeing, but they're seeing what you're seeing. And you go, so you have those people that help you do that, and then you have the people in your life who pour into you. Okay, so, you know, Jill, you've done a lot of the. Let her rise, go. Betty Collins, do your deal. And Betty Clark, who produces this, is kind of my.
Betty Collins [:You need to stop. You need to quit doing these things. What is your problem? But she invests in me, and she tells the truth, and she's protecting me. So that when those moments come, you are ready. And we have all had that in our experiences as visionaries, right? Or as people who lead. And so I just love that piece of it. Of course, you know, he goes. He kills David.
Betty Collins [:He's the hero, and he becomes king. And then he has a horrendous life. But he was ready for his moments because of those people who he did. The third type of person is. So you have people who are passionate and they help you live that out. You have people who pour into you, protect you, and get you ready. And you have people who put up with you. You know, in my life, I have plenty of people who just.
Betty Collins [:That's just Betty Collins. You know, but you need all of those visionary people that support the. I'm sorry. People who support the visionary.
Purba Majumbder [:Right?
Betty Collins [:So let's talk about those people. Maybe in your life. For me, I can tell you the first person that I always think of when I think of these three Ps is my husband, who puts up with me. He's there 24 7. He will tell you, see Betty Collins like I see her. But he also protects me and has my back and tells me the truth and pours into me. But he's my biggest rah rah fan out. There you go.
Betty Collins [:You do, you know, And I have a whole slew of those people in my life. But believe it or not, today is not about Betty Collins. So I can't talk. Yeah, you're part of us, so. But I want to go to kind of talk maybe some personal people that were those three P's to you. Jill, I'm sorry. We'll start with you, give you some more time permanent. So you'll wrap it.
Betty Collins [:You'll wrap it up.
Jill Frey [:So my parents started the company, right? We did business in one town. When I took it over, we probably had 15 employees at the time. My dad said, here you go. Take it over.
Betty Collins [:Yep.
Jill Frey [:And I'm like, wait, wait, what? So my dad is sink or swim, right? That's his motive. So I would call my mom, so she would pour into me. My dad is like, you gotta figure it out, dude. Like, this is your baby. You go figure it out. They were in a different country, right? So I didn't have a phone. Didn't have. This was in 2000.
Jill Frey [:So just different times, different technology. So I had to figure it out. But those employees that figured it out with me became my family. They became the people that I build around me. Missy, our vice president of finance, has been with us for 18 years, right? I mean, Betty knows her. She's fantastic. She'll say, jill, reel it in, girl. Like, bring it back, honey.
Jill Frey [:You gotta bring that back, right? And then I've got Kathy, who's been with us for 12, 15 years. She's our VP of marketing. She sees the vision like, she's out there. We're scaling, girl. We're gonna scale or we're gonna fail, but we're gonna scale, right? And then I've got my VP of Operations who's been with me for 20 years, and she makes everything happen. So those are the people that she puts up with me. I'll say that she puts up with me.
Betty Collins [:Yeah.
Jill Frey [:But that's my team. Right. And they believe in me, and they see the vision. But it's been hard. Like, sure. It was technology, especially. How do you make sure that they're using technology? Right. How do you embrace that? We've had to use our HR guy.
Jill Frey [:Right. Chris had to come in and say, okay, this is what we're doing as a company. But then you get your clients that believe in you.
Betty Collins [:Yeah.
Jill Frey [:Right. And then they want to scale with you, and then they say, you know what? You've done such a great job. We want to see you in security or we want to see you in this. This state. Right. And then. Then you really get excited about who you are and your capabilities and what you can do. So that's.
Jill Frey [:That's what I love. So you've got your employees, you've got your clients, and you've got your team that. That help you. But I love all those little quotes of scale or fail. Right. Fail fast. And they just. They can just snap those off.
Jill Frey [:Right. Okay, this isn't working. Let's pivot. And you gotta pivot. There is no. In my opinion, there is no. You're right, Betty. You go steep, you're gonna.
Jill Frey [:You're gonna fall fast. Right. So how do you gradually go and then pivot when you want to pivot?
Betty Collins [:Right. And it takes those people in your life, like you're talking about, even. The first time I ever met Jill was at nabo. Same for you. I had seen you at events there, and she did this Red cup team building thing.
Jill Frey [:Yeah.
Betty Collins [:Which that I ended up using here. And so women like Purba and I are looking at the Jills going, oh, like, this is my person. So you really want to support her with whatever she's working and doing in. But NABO and the WSBA and Ohio Women's Coalition, all those things play such a role in our lives. We don't even realize that. We just think everyone has a Nabo Columbus, and that's just not the case. And they're your friends, right?
Jill Frey [:You want them to succeed. You know, it's just like, oh, my gosh, I'm in a room full of my friends, and they think, holy cow, somebody would say that's your competitor. But they're not. They're people you want to see rise and you want to help them, and you want to help them grow, and how can you help them live their dreams out? You know? So that's. So we were talking about that Zuleen. Zuleen has been such a champion, right? She's been in nabo. She's been in rebank. She's such a champion, love that.
Jill Frey [:That she can see them coming together and see how they confuse together.
Betty Collins [:And what Zulean doesn't realize is, or we probably don't even realize it, you are inspiring people by how you continue to go and go and they see it and then they're like, I want to either be the visionary or I want to support the visionary. And it's a cycle and you're just doing every day. This is what it is. But purba. We've taken a lot of time. So let's talk about your three P's. Passionate, they pour into you or they put up with you.
Purba Majumbder [:So my journey has been obviously I'm an immigrant founder. It has been very, it's very different from, you know, every other business woman that I work with most of the times is because, you know, it's coming to a new country. Founding a business where there are overcoming cultural, business, cultural hurdles. There are so many different things. Like you are often in rooms where you are the only one who look like that, having the courage to keep on going and not, you know, think that of those as challenges. So my husband did play a huge role in my growth and my our business because he is one of those, like you said, your dad is like, he's one of those go getters. There's like, you figure it out, figure.
Betty Collins [:It out, go move.
Purba Majumbder [:Work hard, work hard. Like we're going to get there, we're going to get there, that kind of a person. So I get a lot of inspiration from that. But I'm also a lot different as a person. So for me, a lot of those things that I do, being true to myself, providing value, making an impact every day, not just through my business, but just in general is very important to me. That's how I lead. And my daughters, they have played an integral part in our life, in our business, everything. Because when I quit the job, the corporate job, they were little girls in elementary school.
Purba Majumbder [:And when you are starting the business, if you've done one, you know how hard it is. And there is no nine to five thing. So you're always working. You are always working. So my daughters, you know, they'll be like, if I had to go anywhere, I'll take them. They're either in, you know, at Starbucks, like you know, getting something or, you know, with somebody else just doing their homework, whatever the case might be, you know, they were so patient, sometimes not so happy.
Betty Collins [:But they were watching you.
Purba Majumbder [:They were watching you. They were watching me. And Especially I want to mention about the Nonprofit we founded 12 years back, cool Tech Girls. And that was entirely because, you know, I saw my daughters and I was trying to encourage them because as a professional in the stem, I've always, that's the only thing that I know, the technology part, you know, I came here, I, you know, I worked as a software professional, went up to the ranks, I became a VP before I quit the bank. And then in the business, you know, obviously always in the that administration role. So all I know is how to use technology and be around technology. So I was trying to encourage them and they said that they are not interested because they don't want to be labeled as geeks or nerds. And I'm like, what? That doesn't make any sense.
Purba Majumbder [:And then I started talking to other parents and they were saying the same thing. They're like, yeah, you know, my daughter doesn't want to do this and all of that. And I'm like, but why? I mean there's so much opportunity and we're in the staffing business as well, so we see the opportunities and we're trying to find all these skilled and experienced women. We would love to give them chat, but they don't apply. They're not there. They're not as many. Even today, not as many. You know, it's very hard to get fill those positions.
Purba Majumbder [:So I'm very passionate about that. And you can see like where I went with Cool Tech Girls to the level. You know, to date we have 2,500 girls who went through the program and through the 12 years it has been with no funding, we did not have any funding for Cool Tech Girls. The way we did it is through sponsorship and sponsorship in kind through companies. A lot of companies came forward, they said that okay, we want to help this. And my daughters, every event I would drag them, we're going, you know, and they're like doing registration, they're doing check in. My youngest one, she was very interested. She in school, she founded her own non profit, she was teaching young girls.
Purba Majumbder [:And when you say, you know, that's the impact, you know, we made, you know, we don't really realize what the impact is like. But when you keep on doing the right thing and you show them that this is where you stand, this is the integrity you have, this is your value system, then other people will also follow. And I can tell you Cool Tech Girls would not have been here today without all these people who believed in the mission, who believed in the vision, all the corporations that came Forward and said that, you know, Cardinal Health, they have been supporting for 12 years now, every single year, you know, by providing volunteers, by hosting events. So when we talk about Visionary and when we talk about all this, it's not just me, it is a whole bunch of people behind me that supported all of these even through with my business. You know, we have a team in India 2003, we opened the office. They have been a huge support. All the backend work, even today are done by themselves. So it is really, I'm just in focus because I'm the CEO of the company.
Purba Majumbder [:But behind me there's so many other people and even organizations such as Weld. I was on the weld board for 10 years. Oh my God, I have met some of the most incredible women in that board. Not to mention Barb Smoot, who is a force by herself.
Betty Collins [:That would be Barb Smooth. But for you, now that you, I mean it's. And you say I'm just kind of the CEO, you're the vision and you wouldn't need all the supportive visionaries if you didn't have. I'm going to do this right. And then you see a need of, hey, we need more women in stem. And what I've even told Brady Wear along the years of women, it's not, I don't want them just hired to hire them. You're going to miss talent that is beyond. And that's what you know.
Betty Collins [:So your vision has been with that. And I'll fin with this question with you is, is what do you see in your daughters? Do you see them being the visionary or the support of the visionary? Because you've dragged them all over and did all these things with them. And there may be geeks now, right.
Purba Majumbder [:My older one, she is a little bit of an introvert. So I would say that she would be somebody kind of behind the scene, not really stepping forward. But she's very smart and she can figure things out and support like, you know, she's working. She started working for l' Oreal and in the last three years she's already been promoted.
Betty Collins [:There we go.
Purba Majumbder [:You know, and then, and then my youngest one, she is, I can see her as being a visionary.
Betty Collins [:Yeah.
Purba Majumbder [:Very independent. Always telling me what she wants to do, not listening to what I am saying. She has her own mind and she's done several things, even though she's only 22 years years old, she has done several things that independently, without, you know, having any kind of, you know, support from us, she has done them herself. Everything she's done with her life. You know, she's like, I'm gonna do it and she's gonna do it. So all of them are different, but you have an impact regardless.
Betty Collins [:So. Right. I think that you need both. So thank you for listening today.
Betty Collins [:This is part one of two for this time on being a visionary or supporting the visionary. And of course, I had today two amazing guests being Jill and Purba. They are inspirational women who have done amazing things, but, you know, we're going.
Betty Collins [:To talk more about challenges.
Betty Collins [:They're going to give you some advice in part two. I think you're going to really take. Have a lot of takeaway. I would encourage you to look them up just to see the things they're doing. There's a lot to these two ladies. But being that visionary or being supporting the visionary, I cannot emphasize enough how important that is for women today.
Betty Collins [:Being in business is one thing.
Betty Collins [:Being a woman in business is another thing. And it takes people around you supporting you. So be the visionary. Go for it and get a team of people who support the visionary. Just make sure you have people in your life who are going to see your passion and see your potential in the plan and purpose you have and let them help you rise. And the same thing, get those people in your life who are practical, who are going to pour into you, who are going to give you tremendous amounts of wisdom, and they're going to make sure that you will be ready for your moment. And so today, women supporting women, the world when that happens.
Betty Collins [:Thank you for joining us on Inspiring Women with Betty Collins. We hope today's episode has inspired you to chase your dreams and break through your barriers and embrace your own unique journey.