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McDonald's Vs Sid and Marty Kroft (Burger Wars Kickoff)
Episode 6916th May 2025 • The 70s vs The 80s • Secret Suburbs Studios
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This week, we uncover the mysterious disappearance of beloved McDonald's

characters, debate whether Sid and Marty Krofft shows were "good-bad"

or just plain bad, and kick off our sizzling summer "Burger Wars"

segment with a deep dive into the Golden Arches.

### SEGMENT 1: "The McDonaldland Massacre" (00:00-23:30)

- Introduction to McDonaldland characters: Ronald McDonald, Grimace, Hamburglar, Mayor McCheese, etc.

- Timeline of characters' prominence in commercials and PlayPlaces (1971-2003)

- The sudden disappearance from marketing campaigns

- **THE BIG REVEAL:** The 1973 lawsuit by Sid & Marty Krofft against McDonald's

- How McDonaldland characters suspiciously resembled characters from "H.R. Pufnstuf"

- The $50 million copyright infringement case

- McDonald's defense and eventual $1 million settlement

- Legacy of the characters in pop culture

- Where are they now? (Ronald's charity work, Grimace's 2023 brief revival)


### SEGMENT 2: "Krofft Power Hour"

- Background on Sid and Marty Krofft Productions

- Overview of major shows:

- H.R. Pufnstuf (1969-1970)

- Lidsville (1971-1973)

- Sigmund and the Sea Monsters (1973-1975)

- Land of the Lost (1974-1976)

- The Krofft Supershow (1976-1978)

- Electra Woman and Dyna Girl

- Budget constraints vs. creative vision

- Practical effects and puppetry: impressive for their time or nightmare fuel?

- Cultural impact and influence on modern creators

- The "Good-Bad" debate:

- Case for "Good in a Crappy Way": Imaginative concepts, memorable characters, cult following

- Case for "Just Crappy": Cheap production, questionable writing, bizarre storylines

- Final verdict from hosts


"Burger Wars" McDonald's

*Summer Feature Introduction*



**Host Showdown Categories:**

1. **Best Menu Items of All Time**

- Arguments for: Big Mac, Quarter Pounder with Cheese, Filet-O-Fish, Fries

- Dark horse contender: Hot Mustard Sauce


2. **Worst Menu Items Ever**

- McPizza debate

- Arch Deluxe failure analysis

- McLobster horror stories

- McSalad Shakers trauma


3. **Best Discontinued Items**

- Fried apple pies vs. baked version

- McDLT ("keeps the hot side hot and the cool side cool")

- McRib debate: Is it actually good or just good marketing?

- Szechuan Sauce: Pre and post Rick & Morty phenomenon


4. **Breakfast Cutoff Controversy**

- Historical timeline of McDonald's breakfast hours

- The game-changing "All Day Breakfast" experiment (2015-2020)

- Current breakfast hours (varies by location - typically ends at 10:30am or 11:00am)

- Philosophical debate: Why is society against hash browns at 2pm?


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