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January 15, 2025 - Job 40-42
15th January 2025 • Daily Bible Podcast • Compass Bible Church North Texas
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00:00 Introduction and Announcements

00:21 Exciting Winter Retreat Plans

00:54 The Impact of Retreats on Students

02:03 Upcoming Sermon Series Overview

03:18 Discussion on Technology and Faith

04:20 Listener Feedback on AI and Ethics

06:21 Exploring the Book of Job

10:00 Job's Repentance and Restoration

16:25 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to another edition

of the daily Bible podcast.

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Folks is what.

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The estate is Wednesday.

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It is Wednesday, the 15th of January.

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Now.

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Next Wednesday, are you

having a youth next Wednesday?

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The 22nd.

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The Wednesday before our retreat is

a no-go no youth on the Wednesday,

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the leaders and the pastor need.

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They're there rest before the storm.

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Oh yeah, for sure.

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And you guys are going to, I think

I said blooming spring on Sunday.

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It's blooming Grove.

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That sure.

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There's no blooming spring.

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Uh, is there not, there's

no plumbing spring in Texas,

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but there's a Bloomington.

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Yeah.

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That's where you guys are going.

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There is a blooming Grove and I'm

looking at the house right now, man.

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This is beautiful.

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I can't wait to go here.

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There's a pickleball court.

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There's a slide that leads into a pool.

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There's a driving range.

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There's a kickball field.

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Yeah.

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And there's also going to be super

cold weather to join us, which is

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amazing, which I can't wait for.

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I'm looking forward to being really cold.

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It's a winter retreat after all.

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It is, and it wouldn't be so bad if

we got a little bit of snow, not as

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much now as we got last time around,

but a little bit would be good.

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Yeah, for sure.

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And I, I told people this on Sunday

night, I just want to reiterate it, man.

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These are such formative

times for our students.

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Uh, you can't underestimate.

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I mean, you can pass her out.

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Do you know this you've

been in ministry for years?

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You can preach.

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Endless.

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Series on a Wednesday night and yet

the, the impact of getting away and

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having, you know, three, four messages.

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In a condensed amount of

time can have a much greater

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impact on those students then.

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Four years of hearing, you know, 20

sermon series of the course of four years.

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Not that those 20 sermon series,

aren't doing something as well.

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Sure that there's something about

it that as parents more spiritual.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, totally.

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The motivation should be

there for parents to say, Hey.

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This is good for our kids to

be at this, at this retreat.

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Yeah.

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And they're always such

a bonding experience.

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Do people find it themselves connected

in different ways and you would

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otherwise, whenever you put a lot of

people together in a small space, which

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is the space isn't terribly small,

but whenever you do that, As it being

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conversations and relationships that are

built and continued to be forged that

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otherwise just would not have happened.

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So this is a great thing for everybody.

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It's going to be fun.

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We're going to have a great time.

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There's so many fun things to do.

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The pictures are really exciting

and I'm working on sermons.

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I am.

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I've got them all outlined.

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Now we're just going to have a, I

just got to add meat to the bones,

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which is going to take some time.

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That's awesome.

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That's awesome.

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Give us an overview though.

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In real life, the thrust of the sermon

series is going to be on well IRL, even

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though that's the terminology I'm using.

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I'm really trying to talk about the role

of technology in the Christian life.

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So first sermon is called distract Topia.

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Your tech is training.

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You.

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And part of the training is that you're

being trained to live in a distracted

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way, which causes you then to really

struggle, to focus on what really matters.

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So our first sermon distract Topia is

your tech is training you and only one

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thing is big enough to be your everything.

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So you should flee from

anything that distracts you.

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Second sermon is face

filters, avatars and emojis.

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This one's going to be.

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More geared toward the, the way

that social media and technology in

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particular really makes it difficult

to avoid a real relationships.

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And so we're going to talk about the way

that Devices and as great as they are.

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And I love devices.

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As great as they are.

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They can cause us to live disembodied

disconnected lies from one another

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and that's something to be avoided.

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So we had to train our tech to enhance

our real life love for God and others.

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That's my driving point there.

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And then the last one is called shotguns

chainsaws and driver's licenses.

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And this, the subtitle for this one

is my point, the more powerful the

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tool, the more important the training.

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Yeah.

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So I'm going to tell

them and encourage them.

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To really understand what

they're holding in their hands.

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If they do have those devices

already and how to utilize them in

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a way that helps them to love God

better and to love one another.

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And also to do that in a helpful way.

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I mean, The new world ahead of

us is going to be treacherous.

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Navigating AI.

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And all these things that

we talk about is a big deal.

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And it's surprising to me that with the

power that we have in our hands or under.

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In our iPads or phones or computers.

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We don't have the same kind of training

that we do with a car or a shotgun.

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We don't just hand a chainsaw to a kid.

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And yet a lot of parents

do that with their kids.

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So here's your chainsaw kid, right?

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Have fun.

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Don't cut a limb off, right?

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Of course, they're going to do that.

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And I feel the same way about a phone.

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Uh, device, any electronic device,

it has access to the internet.

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This is something that needs training.

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So I'm going to give them some.

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Biblical wisdom about how to approach

their, this really powerful tool.

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It's going to be so good, so good.

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And you might have a Supreme court

ruling on Tik TOK to be able to refer

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to you in the rear view mirror, perhaps.

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And it, and the only thing is Tik TOK

might get bought up by an American

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company and it'll still be around.

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So it's really the platform that sends

all of our private information to China.

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That's the problem, but I think

there's a bigger problem and that it's,

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it stills up all of our attention.

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Right.

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And it's really, really good at it.

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Right.

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Cause if it's not Tik TOK, then

it's going to be Instagram or then

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it's going to be something else.

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That's going to fill its place.

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They all do steal from one another.

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They.

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They don't adopt the same kind of stuff.

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It's not exactly the same, but the same

enough to say, oh, stand on our platform.

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We do all the things that Tik TOK does to.

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Yeah.

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That you mentioned AI there.

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We got an email written in from

one of our faithful listeners

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and somebody that we love.

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He was so mad.

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He took issue with our angry, our

discussion of AI and, and a little bit

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of the genetic modification things.

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Um, I think maybe some

clarification would be helpful.

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I don't think either of

us are, are behind the.

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Full bore AI and genetic manipulation,

everything else like that, I think.

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Um, you and I even have some

nuances between each other.

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I think what we have to.

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To kind of keep it neat and tidy without

dragging everything back up again.

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I think both of us would say,

man, If these realities are going

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to present themselves to us as

Christians, which I think the

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cat's out of the bag on that one.

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At this point as much as we might

wish, at least I might wish AI to go

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back away and never come up again.

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It's not, that's not the

reality that we live in.

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And so as Christians, we're going to have

to think about how to engage with these

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things in a way that is good and godly

and can they be redeemed and, and I think

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with so many things and this factors

into what you're going to be preaching

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on with the students, You can look at it.

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Uh, thing that in and of itself is

neutral and say, okay, this can be used

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for evil, or it can be used for good.

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How is we as Christians can, how

can we approach it and use it in

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a way that's good, instead of in a

way that's, that's evil and wicked.

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And, uh, for some, you're going to

lean in more to use those things and

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others aren't going to use them as much.

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That's fine.

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The reality is though.

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They're here and we have to figure

out how do we navigate this with

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their presence in our midst.

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And even the Bible software that

I'm looking at right now utilizes

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AI to do really great work.

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Yup.

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And I think it's all about

the it's it's about the user.

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Now, granted, I think a part of

his argument was the programmers.

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They come in with sinful ideas and sinful

inclinations, and we agree with that.

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There's, there's definitely a liability.

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To saying, I'm going to trust

this thing full bore, but you

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could say that about a dictionary.

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Yep.

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Which is also written by centers.

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Or the news.

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Yeah.

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The news also interpreted by centers.

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So you could talk about the encyclopedia,

Britannica also contributed by center.

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So there's a lot of things.

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Yeah, no, but as someone wants that

about the word of God, God can use

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crooked sticks to draw straight lines.

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And I think that's also true.

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Generally speaking, making cars.

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Uh, we drive cars and we don't

take issue with that because even

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though it's made by simple people

and designed by sinful designers,

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we can still make good use of it.

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And I think that's our point.

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We can use most things that God

has given us, and it is a gift.

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To honor him.

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And then , that's the mentality

that we're both trying to take here.

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Yeah, for sure.

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For sure.

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Well, let's jump into job and

finish up the book of job today.

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We are in joke, 40 41 to

42 and job 40 opens up.

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Um, with a question where

God says to Joe, Hey.

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Uh, can you really stand up to me?

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Can you contend with the

almighty and this prompt job?

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He gets the point.

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At this point, he takes his hand and he

puts it on his mouth and he basically

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says, listen, I'm going to shut up.

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Uh, because I've, I've, I've spoken too

much and I'm not going to speak anymore.

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And, uh, that's not enough though.

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It's not like God is

like, okay, Joe, good.

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You got the point.

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Let's move on.

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Uh, because God keeps going and

he keeps going after him and he

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keeps challenging job and he goes

in even further against job in, in

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asking him more and more questions.

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And this is like the second

round of, uh, of interrogation

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and he asked Joe questions.

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Verses eight through 14.

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Are, are you really Jo?

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Are you pretending to be like me or are

you suggesting that you're better than me,

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that you would charge me with wrongdoing?

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He says Joe 40 verse eight.

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This is chilling.

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Will you condemn me that

you may be in the right.

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Ah, man, that is, is.

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Sober because so often.

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We can be tempted when we suffer.

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Uh, in our complaint to basically

without maybe realizing it or without

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seeing the direct words of saying,

Hey, Uh, God, you've done me wrong

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in this situation and we gotta be

careful too, to guard against that.

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And I think when we read it the way it's

put there in verse eight, are you going to

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condemn me that you might be in the right?

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None of us would say, yeah, I got it.

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I want to be right.

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And you be wrong.

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But sometimes we can

embrace that mentality.

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And that certainly seemed to be what Joe

was doing in his complaints against God.

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Remember, whatever God means,

uh, and chapter 42, which

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we will get to in a second.

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Keep this in mind here.

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God is charging.

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JoBeth wrong.

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God is saying, Joe, you

were wrong about me.

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Chapter 40 verse two shall a fault

finder contend with the almighty.

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Uh, he who argues, argues

with God, let him answer.

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Will you even put me in the

wrong, will you condemn me

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that you may be in the right?

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So God is saying job was wrong.

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I keep that in mind, because

we're going to have to use that

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to nuance our understanding of

what he means in chapter 42.

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So chapter 40.

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Uh, than the rest of it.

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We get into talking about this animal

and then in chapter 41, another animal.

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So the first animal that we deal with

is called the behemoth, the behemoth,

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and a lot of people have suggested

this seems to be the hippopotamus.

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Maybe it's a massive beast that God has

created a and these aren't questions, but

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an invitation rather from God to consider.

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Uh, this massive mighty animal that

God has made it as one commentator

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put it one of his pets and that's,

that's just a unique picture.

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None of us would keep a

hippopotamus as a pet, but.

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Uh, God's power is such that

it's it's as though it's a pet.

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It's as though it's a hamster.

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In, uh, in God's.

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Uh, Providence and God's

power in his might.

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Uh, verse 19, then we see

this word first show up.

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And it's important for us to know when

it says he's the first of God's works.

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Uh, that that's not

necessarily chronologically.

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It's not saying that that God made the

hippopotamus first before all creatures.

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But the first and rank the, the

behemoth it's, it's the most powerful

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of all the animals that God made.

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And so that's what got to sing there.

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There's, there's nothing

greater than this animal joke.

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Have you considered this animal?

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And again, it's meant to make

God or to make God big and

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jovial small in light of God.

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And that's what he does in verses

one through 34 in chapter 41 to.

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Uh, really all I guess, of chapter

41, when he talks about the Leviathan.

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Now we kicked this around last

year a little bit, so we don't

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need to dig this up again.

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Some have suggested this is a

dragon because of the words of

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the fire and everything else.

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There are other explanations out there

such that the, if this is for example, a.

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Uh, crocodile or some sea creature that

when it sneezes the particles of water,

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Gleaner, glimmer in the air and give

the appearance of fire being breathed

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out of the animal's mouth there, or

this is just simply an invitation to

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consider a mythical creature there.

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But, um, I don't think this

is suggesting that dragons

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existed back in, in job's day.

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And then all of a sudden

don't exist today.

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Uh, this is again, job being invited

to consider another massive creature.

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If this is a dragon or a

crocodile or a dinosaur, perhaps.

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Uh, yeah, got us St.

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Joe fuel.

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Small and realize that I'm the creator.

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Um, and that leads then to chapter 42,

which is job's repentance and restoration.

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So pastor rod, you were talking

about chapter 42 and how we need to.

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Th to think about the fact that

Joe was in the wrong, the guy

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was charging him with rocks.

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So help us walk through what

that means now in chapter 42.

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Well, let me just back

up one quick second here.

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Let me just add one thing

to what you were saying.

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I think the important contribution

that chapters 40 and 41 plates were

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understanding of God is that if you can't

domesticate a wild animal, certainly

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you should not try to domesticate God.

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You can't wrap your mind around

what these animals are, how to take

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care of them, how to control them.

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Don't try to do that with God, if

you're wise enough not to do that

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with human, rather with creatures

that we see on this planet, then

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certainly don't do that with the.

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Divine.

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Maker of all the things

that we see on the planet.

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And I think that's an important

consideration for all of

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you to, to think about.

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And this is all done.

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Got God is meditating.

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If I can call it that on

creation and saying, think about

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what you see all around you.

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This sounds a whole lot like Jesus.

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When he says consider the birds.

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Consider the Ravens consider the

lilies and Jesus is doing what

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God the father does here with job.

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And he's inviting you to do the same.

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So when you're having a difficult

season, thinking about creation,

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thinking about what God does in nature

is a really good starting place.

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But secondly, chapter 42 here.

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Uh, you'll notice that after the Lord

had spoken these words to job, the Lord

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said to Ellie FAS the team of night.

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My anger burns against you and against her

two friends where you have not spoken to

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me, what is right as my servant job has.

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And he says there's multiple times.

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He says again, in verse eight,

you have not spoken to me.

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What is right as my servant job has.

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And the reason I'm pushing back on a

strict, literal understanding of that.

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It's because God himself says

Joe did not speak right about me.

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He's a fault finder.

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He's darkening my counsel

with these windy words.

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He says some of the same things

that Ellie FAS actually says.

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And so here's what I think

is happening in chapter 42.

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I think God is specifically saying

Jobe was right in that he did

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nothing wrong to warrant this, this.

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All of this action, all this tragedy.

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Where this is where Ellie FAS

and his friends were wrong.

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They were wrong about saying job.

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You must've done something sinful.

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You must have been blameworthy

for this to happen.

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And he's saying that in that

sense, you guys are wrong, but

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in that sense job is right.

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So everything else that you

read in the book of job though,

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I think needs to be qualified.

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It's okay.

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What does the Bible say

about that by and large?

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Their primary argument wrong.

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But some of their other supporting

arguments, you could say, well,

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yeah, there's truth to that.

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There's true things that

they say about that.

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So when God says job is right,

he's saying he's right about that.

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Not about everything job says

because God himself, as I'm going

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to charge him with being wrong.

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Yeah, I think you're right there.

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And I think that may also lend

some evidence as to why Ellie who

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was left on challenged, because

that was Ellie who's positioned.

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Ellie, who was dealing

with what job was saying?

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Not whether or not Joe was just before

all the suffering came into being, but.

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Uh, job's response to

God after the suffering.

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And so it seems like.

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Uh, to, to further draw the

comparison there that, that there's

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comparisons between, uh, yeah.

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God's position there.

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And Ellie who I think Ellie who would

have said, yeah, Joe was a righteous

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man prior to this, and that's why

friends, you, you guys are wrong.

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And in you're focused on the wrong thing,

not proving that he was in error before,

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but, but not pointing out how he's an

heir now in his response to the suffering.

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And I think there.

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We would see a parallel there.

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Absolutely.

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And notice that the amount

of bulls and Rams, they have

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seven bulls and seven Rams.

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It tells me that there.

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Sin against job was costly.

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Yeah, it was an expensive sin.

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What they said was heavy and weighty.

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And consequently God is saying to you,

you owe a lot, this is an expensive

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sacrifice, and this is not actually

repeated in the new Testament or.

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The old Testament, rather, God,

doesn't give you this many for

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anything else except for this.

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So this is a big deal.

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Their words were painful.

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They were painfully wrong.

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And consequently, God is saying,

you, you, you have a debt to pay now.

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Right.

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And in men, Because I was

just thinking about this.

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It's been interesting.

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I don't know if your X feed has been

filled up with as much as mine has on.

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It seems like there's a renewed.

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Uh, focus on the difference between

Catholicism and Protestantism in, in

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theological circles today, it seems like

there's some Catholics that are gaining

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traction in the social media world, and

that some of the distinctions are being

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brought back into the public circle.

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And there's, there's some

debate taking place again.

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I think about this, that the way that

I look at penance in the Catholic

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church, you know, you're going to

go into, you're going to meet with a

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priest and the priest isn't gonna say

we'll take seven bulls and seven Rams.

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But the priest is going to say,

Hey, you need to do this many

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hail Mary's and you need to do.

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You know, this.

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Say this prayer over here, our fathers,

and you need to do this and that.

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And, and then that's penance and you

will have absolution for your sin.

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And the beauty with this, we can read

job 42 8 and be like, wow, that was a

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costly payment that these men had to

make to a tone for their wrong doing.

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And yet we should bear in mind

that our sin cost way more than

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seven bulls and seven Rams.

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Th that the Atoma that was necessary for

us was the blood of Christ on the cross.

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You know, our, our Catholic friends,

I'm not going to call them brothers

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and sisters, but our Catholic

friends that you may have out there.

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Uh, that that's the danger in, in their

approach to the gospel is that they would

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look and they say, oh, you have to bring

your seven bowls and your seven Rams.

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In addition to the blood of Christ,

that Christ has already paid on

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your behalf to atone for your sin.

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So we can read Joe 42 8 and

say, God, thank you for Jesus.

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Jesus has paid the penalty and we're

going to get into that big time when

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we get into the law in a little while

here, when we get into the giving

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of the law and read about all the

requirements in the sacrificial system,

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and we can sit back and say, Oh, man.

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The, the book of Hebrews is so sweet

in light of this, but I think we

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see the same idea here in Joe 42 8.

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Amen.

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Well, th th the book ends on a high note.

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Um, job's fortunes are restored

and he receives back even more

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than he had prior to that.

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And, uh, and yet I can't help,

but think we can't just say, oh,

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well, everything was great for

Joe for the rest of his life.

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Cause he, he lost his children

in this and, and I think that's

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something that we can't overlook.

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Like this was a lesson that would have

resonated with Joe until the day died.

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He, things were, were better.

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Things were.

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We're not as, as painful.

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And yet he always had to remember me and.

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I lost my kids in this

process and I lost a lot.

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And so I think that the

suffering that we go through.

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Uh, sometimes God will be kind

to us and bring us out of the

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valley to an even higher mountain

top than we were on before.

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But it doesn't mean that the valley

doesn't stay with us and that the

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pain isn't still there and continues

to teach us and keep us humble.

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Uh, for the rest of our lives,

I gotta imagine that his job

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consider the loss of his children.

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He was reminded of the humility that God

desired from him for the rest of his life.

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Even after things got better

for him towards the end.

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I read something that

was really interesting.

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In fact, There was a suggestion

that I thought I think is spot on.

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Everything else that Joe had was doubled.

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And you double the camels, double the

double, everything, double the yoke

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of oxen, double the female donkeys.

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And there's one glaring area where

he does not have anything doubled.

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And that's the kids.

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You just brought it up here.

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He has the same number of kids.

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And so it says here he had seven sons,

three daughters, and that was it.

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You would expect if God were

going to double that he would do

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the same thing, but he doesn't.

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And the rationale for that was because

he does have a double sons and daughters.

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I may not have them all alive.

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But God effectively, he's going

to give them to him eventually.

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But he'll have a chance to receive

them again in the next life.

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And so even though they're, they're

gone, they're not gone in a permanent

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sense and an ultimate sense.

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He will be able to see them again

and enjoy them in the next life.

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Yeah, that's an interesting

insight for sure.

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Well, there's job.

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Job's all done.

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So we're going to be jumping back

in tomorrow to Genesis in picking

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back up with the story of Abraham.

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So make sure you tune in again tomorrow

for another edition of the daily Bible

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podcast, but before then let's pray

and then we'll be done for today.

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Got thanks for, uh, this

testimony of, of, uh, job's life

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and what we can learn for it.

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And I know just even thinking about some

people in our church right now, who are

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going through a time that they would.

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Not compare to Joe because job's

suffering was so insanely immense,

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but just going through valleys, going

through times of suffering were.

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We're we're grateful for job's,

uh, example that we can learn from,

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especially in the end of the book where

he in humility just submits himself

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to your sovereignty and trust in you.

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And that doesn't remove the pain, but

it does give comfort in the sense of.

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Of knowing that you are a God in control.

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And that is something that is so good for

us to hold on to you when it feels like

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everything else is out of our control.

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So God give us such a mindset.

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We pray in make us men and women

that are so grateful that our

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sin has been a tone for by.

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Uh, payment that is far more than

the blood of bulls and goats as

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we read about not long ago, last

year in the book of Hebrews.

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And we'll again later on this year.

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So we're thankful for Christ and

the atonement that we have in him.

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And we pray this all in Jesus name.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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