In this inspiring rewind conversation, Laura welcomes Kari Rogenski, LMFT, Director of The Hummingbird Project, and her colleague Susan Martelino. They discuss Kari's groundbreaking program dedicated to bringing joy, meaning, and connection back to the lives of older adults living with dementia. They share why an individualized, strength-based approach is essential for quality of life, how they use the 7 Domains of Wellness as a guide, and how their therapeutic sessions successfully pivoted to a virtual model, reaching families across the nation.
This episode is a powerful reminder that every person, at every stage of their journey, still needs and deserves a sense of purpose and connection.
Meet Kari Rogenski & Susan Martelino:
Kari Rogenski, LMFT, is a licensed marriage and family therapist and creative arts therapist specializing in eldercare. She is the Director of The Hummingbird Project and co-creator of Joyful Moments: Meaningful Activities to Engage Older Adults.
Susan Martelino is a highly experienced Therapeutic Activity Specialist and Hummingbird Project Manager, recognized for her creative expertise in facilitating successful virtual therapeutic sessions.
✔ Topics Discussed:
- The core philosophy of The Hummingbird Project: individualized one-on-one therapeutic activity.
- The one-on-one model is crucial for clients who might not identify as "joiners."
- The Seven Domains of Wellness framework (Physical, Spiritual, Intellectual, Creative, Vocational, Emotional, and Environmental quality of life).
- The role of the Therapeutic Activity Specialist (TAS) as a strength-based, "sacred therapeutic friend."
- Using creativity, role-play, and a Legacy Project to overcome client resistance.
- A powerful example of co-creating a published legacy book with a client with memory loss.
- The successful pivot to virtual sessions (Zoom) and why they are sometimes easier and more accessible.
- Adapting connected work for later stages of dementia (live music, family sing-alongs on Zoom).
Timestamps (Approximate):
00:00 - Welcome & Laura's intro to Kari Rogenski
06:00 - The essence of The Hummingbird Project: individualized one-on-one activities
13:00 - Diving into the Seven Domains of Wellness framework
18:15 - Using creativity and the vocational domain to introduce the TAS role
23:45 - Legacy Project example: writing a book with a client
30:00 - Introducing Susan Martelino: Hummingbird Manager & virtual session "wizard"
33:00 - The successful pivot to virtual sessions (Zoom) and its unexpected benefits
40:15 - Adapting the work for later stages of dementia: live music, family sing-alongs on Zoom
Key Takeaways:
- Individualized care is key. A customized one-on-one connection is a powerful antidote to apathy and withdrawal in dementia.
- Purpose overcomes resistance. A vocational approach, like creating a family legacy project, helps people re-engage.
- Creativity is essential. It's a flexible, adaptive lens for finding new ways to connect beyond simple arts and crafts.
- Virtual connections work. Zoom allows for amazing resources and family connections that can be less overwhelming than in-person visits.
- Quality of life is for every stage. Even in later stages, adapted creative experiences provide a rich quality of life.
Resources Mentioned:
The Hummingbird Project Website: https://hummingbirdproject.net/
Joyful Moments Activity Cards: https://hummingbirdproject.net/joyfulmoments/
Connect with Kari Rogenski & The Hummingbird Project:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%AB%B6-kari-rogenski-lmft-phd-candidate-9ab721106/
Website: https://hummingbirdproject.net/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLhTqQchoTUPk17w5oBEmjQ
Facebook & Instagram: Search "The Hummingbird Project"
Connect with Laura Vaillancourt & the Life on Repeat Podcast:
Website: https://lifeonrepeatpodcast.com
Instagram: @lifeonrepeatpodcast
Facebook: Life on Repeat Podcast
YouTube: www.youtube.com/@LifeonRepeatPodcast
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