Shayna and Evelyn are back, and this time Evelyn's taking the wheel. In this episode, she's pulling back the curtain on the stage of business growth that gets the most attention, absorbs the most dollars, and delivers the most disappointment — marketing.

The hard truth? There are three phases to your marketing journey and you cannot buy your way past any of them. Evelyn walks through each stage — online presence, visibility, and lead generation. The duo review what belongs in each one, why the order matters, and what happens when you try to skip ahead in the process. Whether you're just starting out or you've been in business for years running on referrals, this episode will show you exactly where you stand and what you should be focused on right now.

Shayna runs the numbers on how many hours per week each phase actually demands, what you can hand off and what you can't, and what it realistically costs to get support when your time runs out before your to-do list does.

They also get into their $20,000 mistake of hiring a marketing agency and the hard lesson that followed and discuss why agencies that don't specialize in the interior design industry are almost always selling you metrics that have nothing to do with how design clients actually buy.

This episode won't hand you a shortcut. What it will give you is clarity on where you actually are, why the work you're doing might not be paying off yet, and what consistent, unglamorous effort looks like when it finally starts to compound.

If your marketing isn't working, it's not because you're doing it wrong. It might just be because nobody told you how long it was supposed to take.

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