Shownotes
Radiant Icon… it’s time for some anniversary tea. ☕✨
As Dare To Be Iconic podcast approaches its two-year anniversary (March 27), Amanda is looking back at six unforgettable Everyday Icon moments that perfectly capture what this community is all about: choosing yourself, daring to grow, and embracing your most authentic life.
From writing badass heroines and embracing reinvention, to protecting your peace, reclaiming fangirl culture, and leaning on friendship during heartbreak—these conversations remind us that being iconic isn’t about perfection… it’s about courage.
Amanda also shares details about the upcoming DTBI Iconic Behavior Masterclass: Break Up With The Past, Fall In Love With The Future on March 22nd, where she’ll be teaching her signature framework for turning pain into power.
And next week, we revisit one of our OG DTBI premiere episodes where Amanda begins opening up about her dating violence healing journey.
Because around here, Radiant Icon…
we dare to be ourselves.
Iconic Episode References:
Connect with Amanda:
Secure your spot for our next Iconic Behavior Masterclass!
Stream the Radiant Reign Era Playlist!
Discover your iconic signature scent with Oakcha!
Got a question for Amanda or a topic you'd love to hear discussed on a future episode? Submit your question to the "Dare To Be Iconic Hotline" today!
Timestamps:
00:00 Welcome to Dare To Be Iconic
01:02 Masterclass Announcement
01:45 Carly Robyn – Writing Badass Heroines
05:42 Katie – Embracing Change
08:40 Agatha – Choosing Yourself
15:08 Alison – Healing & Vulnerability
17:54 Ella – Owning Your Fangirl Era
20:12 Meleena – The Power of Friendship
24:37 See You Next Week!
Transcripts
What's up radiant icons and welcome back to Dare To Be
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:Iconic, the podcast made for icons
who are daring to be themselves.
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:I'm your host, Amanda Paolicelli, and for
today's Tea Time session, we are doing
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:things a little bit differently here at
Dare to Be Iconic because if you don't
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:know, radiant icons at the end of this
month on March 27th to be exact, we are
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:celebrating two years of the podcast,
two years of spilling the tea together.
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:So I thought, what is a more iconic way to
start the celebration early than looking
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:back at the top six everyday icons who
have shared their story who have spilled
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:the tea with us here at Dare To Be Iconic.
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:But before we get into that radiant
icons, I dare you to join me on Sunday,
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:March 22nd at 1:00 PM Eastern for our
first masterclass of:
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:The Past, Fall In Love With The Future.
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:We are daring to turn our pain into
power together in this masterclass.
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:This is definitely something you do not
want to miss, so make sure to secure your
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:seat today because spots are limited.
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:You can do that by going
to Dare to be iconic.com
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:under the Empowerment Events section, or
clicking the link in the show notes below.
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:I can't wait to see you there.
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:So let's get to that piping
hot tea radiant icons.
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:Are you ready for your tea time sesh?
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:Because it's starting now.
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:The first iconic moment that we are
looking back on today, radiant icons
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:has to go to the one, the only, the
ever so iconic, miss Carly, Robin.
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:It is no secret that Carly is one
of my favorite romance authors.
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:I just adore her and her work,
specifically how she writes fierce
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:and complex female leads in her books.
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:And so let's just take a listen
to what Carly has to say.
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:One thing that I resonated a lot
with in your writing is the badass
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:female protagonist that you write,
they are real, they are complex.
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:They are just so authentic.
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:So how have you approached writing
such badass female characters in
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:this male dominated sports space?
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:Carly Robyn: I definitely, all
of the females have a backbone.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: Um, yes.
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:Yes they do.
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:Carly Robyn: And I think.
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:And I'll speak to like drive me
home, even though it's not out yet.
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:But all of the main female
characters, they're still figuring
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:out like what they're doing in life.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: Mm-hmm.
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:Carly Robyn: Whether it's like Ella and
What's next, or Josie, is she happy?
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:And Charlotte just graduated and she's
like, I don't know what I wanna do.
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:Like they're all figuring out their lives,
but they're all still so comfortable
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:and confident in their own skin, so
that like no matter what situation,
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:they're thrown in, they know who they
are and that kind of helps guide them.
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:And I think that's what helps because
you're being thrown into this like
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:insanely fast paced sport with like really
intense people and really high stakes.
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:So them kind of knowing where they
stand within themselves helps them
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:stand up to people if need be.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: I love that
and I have seen that through both
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:Drive me crazy and drive me wild.
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:I obviously haven't
read Drive Me Home yet.
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:I know by the time this
airs Radiance Icons.
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:Yes.
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:I'm looking straight at the camera.
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:I know the book will be out and I will
link it in the show that's below, but
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:at this time I have not read it yet,
but you know, I've already ordered it.
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:Anyway, going into Drive me Crazy real
quick with Ella, I personally drive
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:me crazy is my favorite book of the
series so far, and I wanted to ask.
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:Drive me crazy has a lot of, um, heavy
plot lines, specifically the SA plot line,
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:and I wanted to know why did you decide to
include that in Ella's story and how were
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:you able to balance that heavier subject
manner with the lighter aspects such as
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:the romance and sport, so on and so forth?
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:Carly Robyn: Yeah, I mean, I think for
me it's important when you have those
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:heavy topics and you're writing like
a rom-com, you have to balance it.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:And it's figuring out how to make these
characters dynamic and how to make them
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:face issues, but not let it define them.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:So I think Blake really struggled
with anxiety and like he felt
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:very stuck because he felt like
his anxiety kind of owned him.
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:He didn't wanna put himself in situations,
whereas Ella was kind of like escaping
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:hers and trying not to think about it
at all, but showing that like they can
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:still both live full very happy lives
despite like these circumstances or
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:things that they might be dealing with.
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:And I think.
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:You know, having Ella with the SA
plot line, she went from one male
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:dominated field to another one, and
how, you know, she kind of persevered
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:and found her footing within that.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: And I think the
most important theme that I've gotten
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:from that is that it's not to allow
anything to define your narrative.
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:You are completely in control of it.
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:From One badass to the next.
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:Let's talk about our second
Iconic Moment radiant Icons.
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:And that goes to my girl
Katie from Race Tips, actually
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:formally known as Race Tips.
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:Her business is now called My Lady
Katie, so make sure to check it out.
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:But oh my goodness, the
power of social media.
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:If it wasn't for me sliding into
Katie's dms, we would not have the
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:friendship of Katie and I today.
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:Like genuinely, honestly,
like thank you, formula One.
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:Thank you Instagram like, like Thank you
so much for one of the best friendships
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:in my life what I love the most about my
friendship with Katie and this particular
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:tea time sesh is that we can have these
heart to heart conversations and really
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:talk about the nitty gritty of life, about
embracing change, about not being afraid
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:to pivot and just trusting the journey.
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:So let's listen to Katie.
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:Katie Hornsby: You have to fake
it till you make it and like.
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:Whatever you tell yourself, like
you are, like if you wanna be a
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:bad bitch, like you're a bad bitch.
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:If you wanna be a girl
boss, you're a girl boss.
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:If you wanna be a or like
a period, yes, a mom.
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:Be a mom.
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:Like it's whoever you tell
yourself is who you can be.
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:And so keeping like, keeping that
in mind, but I also think that
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:I am confident in my decisions.
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:Because I know I'm, I'm grounded
in what I mentioned earlier
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:of like, I can always change.
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:Yeah.
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:And I think often again, like a lot of
us keep ourselves from being competent
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:or like making quick decisions because
we're like, oh my God, this could change
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:my life and it could never go back.
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:And yes,
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:Amanda Paolicelli: it's like the fear
of the unknown is really debilitating,
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:Katie Hornsby: you know?
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:Exactly.
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:And I'm like, okay, like.
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:We can just return back
to square one and mm-hmm.
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:I think a lot of people think returning
to like ground zero is failure.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: I was literally just
thinking that Katie, oh my God, and
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:Katie Hornsby: it's not.
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:Yes, yes.
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:It's ab.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:It's absolutely not.
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:It is.
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:I look at it as like, okay, I
get to start fresh like this.
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:Whether it's, I don't know, like you're
working on a work presentation and
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:they're like, oh, this isn't going the
right way, or you move somewhere, or,
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:I don't know, you dye your hair pink.
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:Yeah, start from the beginning, beginning,
even go back and like that's a whole new
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:opportunity to like start fresh recreate.
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:Like that presentation could look
nothing like it did the first time.
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:Exactly.
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:And you've got that
freedom to make it now.
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:Whatever you want it to be.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: Katie's
words ring so true.
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:radiant icons, because there is
so much power in embracing change,
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:trusting the journey, and breaking
free from expectations, which actually
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:leads me to our next iconic moment.
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:Our next iconic moment goes to a
radiant icon who is so near and dear
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:to my heart, and that is the lovely,
the lovely, lovely, lovely agatha.
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:Agatha was our first
everyday icon for season two.
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:Oh my goodness.
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:All the way back in November of 2024,
radiant Icons and Agatha is so amazing.
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:She is living out the Dare to Be
Iconic message by breaking free from
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:expectations like we spoke about
in Katie's little tea time session.
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:Right?
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:But with Agatha, she truly is choosing
herself and becoming her own icon because
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:she knows that daring to be yourself
is the most powerful act you can do.
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:She is living out what it
means to dare to be iconic.
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:So let's listen to Agatha.
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:So by gaining that perspective on how
your mom was coming about that, right?
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:Of suggesting heavily, oh, I
want you to go down this path.
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:By gaining that new perspective of
where your mom came from and the
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:lessons you've gained from that, how
has that influenced and impacted your
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:healing journey and transformative
journey of embracing your iconic self?
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:Agatha: I think that I realized
that, okay, now it's the time for me.
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:Now, I'm going to actually, plan
the future for myself, because,
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:okay, like, she changed her mind.
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:She's actually going to support me.
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:So now I can plan my dream life ahead.
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:And if she supports me now, after all
that she has to go with me through.
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:My teenage years and childhood.
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:I think that she's going to
support me in everything I do.
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:So, I started planning, content creating.
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:I've become a radiant icon.
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:I, I, I try to, uh, search for how
can I express my voice and how can
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:I express what I love the most.
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:So, I love Formula 1.
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:I love geography.
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:I love, uh, Many other things.
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:I have many other hobbies and I'm trying
to find a way to actually tell the world.
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:Hey, I'm here I still exist.
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:I do this, this, and this.
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:And I'm totally happy about it.
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:And you're not going to
stop me from doing that.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: Period.
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:Cause you're building the future
that you want for yourself
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:and you're breaking free from
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:Agatha: the past.
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:Like, like, uh, One Direction
said, nobody can drag me down.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: Nobody can drag
you down, point blank, end period.
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:Period.
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:Point blank, One Direction needs
to come back as of like, right now.
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:Um, so leading with
that, our last question.
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:What is one iconic insight that you want
to leave with the Radiant Icon community?
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:Agatha: I think my iconic insight
is actually meeting Amanda.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: I'm gonna cry again.
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:I
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:Agatha: did a reel on Instagram that
I'm creating a group chat for F1
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:women fans and like female fans and
she like the time you popped up in
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:the group chat it felt More lively,
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:it's just, it's just the energy you,
you have like the aura all around you.
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:You just bring positivity and
joy into my life and actually
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:doing this thing with you.
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:It was one of the events
that I looked up to the most.
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:I was just looking forward to be actually
recording that with you, talking to you,
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:and I can't wait for this episode to be
released so I can prove myself that I'm
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:capable of doing such things as like
being a guest in Amanda's podcast or
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:any other podcast, I can actually be a
content creator, I can actually manage
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:studies and content creating, I can have
international friends, and I can talk in
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:English daily, which me at like 10 year
old, I wouldn't even think that I would
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:continue my English learning journey.
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:And I'm actually proud of
myself and I'm proud of you.
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:And I'm proud of anyone else who
has understood that they need to
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:take a few deep breaths and figure
everything out on their own.
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:But it doesn't mean that you're alone.
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:If you have to figure out things on
your own, if you figure out things
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:on your own, you actually are in
the best position because you don't
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:have any influence from anyone else.
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:And you can figure out what
do you want for yourself.
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:So actually, I'm, I'm proud of you.
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:Any icon who is listening
or watching us right now.
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:I'm, I'm proud of you.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: You know, I'm
not gonna lie to you radiant icons.
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:Every time I listen to Agatha's
tea time sesh, I get emotional.
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:I get emotional because
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:it's crazy as a founder to see the
impact and hear the impact your
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:work right your baby has made on
someone else's life and on their
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:journey of daring to be themselves.
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:Agatha has been living out the dare to
be iconic message, and it is an honor and
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:a privilege to be a part of that journey
for her, and I'm just so incredibly proud
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:of her, and I'm so incredibly proud of
you guys as well, because I would not
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:be able to keep on going on this mic
and spilling the tea about my life if it
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:wasn't for you guys, if it wasn't for you
guys listening in, applying the lessons
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:that I'm sharing to your lives and then
sharing back with me how dare to be
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:iconic has helped you and impacted you.
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:So thank you for inspiring
me to keep on going.
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:Now we're only in the middle
and I'm not gonna cry.
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:So we're gonna go to the next
iconic moment so I don't cry
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:in the middle of this episode.
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:So, oh my God.
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:It wouldn't be a tea time sesh if
there weren't tears in my eyes.
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:Right?
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:And I go, things never change.
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:Two years of spilling tea.
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:I'm still crying.
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:Any who?
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:Anyway, let's talk about our next
iconic moment, our next iconic moment.
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:Goes to Ms.
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:Allison renee Allison's episode was
all about the beauty of healing and
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:evolving and oh, how so beautiful
that tea time sesh was, it was so, so
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:healing because we were talking about
mental health and healing and overcoming
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:comparison, and that is something that
honestly, right here, right now as I'm
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:recording this tea time session, I'm
struggling so hard with, and this is
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:a nice reminder to remind myself that
I really need to stop comparing, and
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:I hope you guys listen to that too.
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:Ray Gons.
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:So let's listen to Alison.
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:So how do you take that into daring
to be iconic in your everyday life
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:with your platform Evolving Alison?
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:Alison Renee: That's a very good question
because you happen to be in front
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:of an audience on social media now.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: Yeah, exactly.
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:Alison Renee: So many
opinions, like, it is crazy.
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:So daring to be iconic in that way is
not caring about those comments, not
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:caring about even the people around you.
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:Like your friends have been,
Oh, she's recording on camera,
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:like who does she think she is?
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:It's daring to be iconic and I have a
message to say to my followers, like,
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:through my platforms and it's focusing
on that and not the outside voices.
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:Just I'm here for a purpose.
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:I'm showing up for a purpose.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: Yes, because you
know in your heart it was there for
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:a reason so why not take that risk
on yourself and keep building that
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:community and using your voice.
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:How do you remain emotionally vulnerable
online by also taking care of yourself?
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:Alison Renee: When people have a
platform and they have people that
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:look up to them, you kind of put
on your best behavior by default.
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:You want to show that everything's
okay because you're there to take
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:care of others, you know, people
on the other side of the screen.
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:Sometimes people forget we're people
as well with emotions and we behind the
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:scenes, like we could whip out the camera
and like be the happiest person, but be
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:dealing with something behind the scenes.
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:And it's just really about
finding that balance.
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:It's not like we want to hide it,
but I think it's more important to
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:actually show that, like, that is.
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:That's why I'm not afraid
to cry on social media.
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:That's why I'm not afraid
to, like, express anger.
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:I don't have to be some, like,
positive person all the time.
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:And that in itself is self care.
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:It is admitting that I am allowed
to feel sad in front of an audience.
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:And that is, like, it is self care.
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:helping connect people at the same time.
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:So I think that's just
really self care in itself.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: There truly is
something so powerful with leaning
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:into and embracing your vulnerability,
and that reminds me of actually our
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:next iconic moment, radiant icons.
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:And that goes to Miss Ella, the
founder of the motorsports girlies,
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:or known at the time of that
tea time sesh, the F1 girlies.
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:In my tea time sesh with Ella, we
spilled the tea on how you can dare
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:to embrace your inner fan girl because
there is nothing more vulnerable
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:than unapologetically loving the
sport or whatever it is you love
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:so loudly and so boldly when the
internet and the world wants to
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:tell you to shrink, there is nothing
more vulnerable than being yourself.
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:So let's get into it.
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:I think it's so interesting that
a little word like fangirl can
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:create so much like negative chaos.
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:Yes.
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:It's like, I don't know who was like,
you know what, let's pick this term as
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:a term to demean a whole bunch of young
women who just love something, whether
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:you're a fangirl of F1, fangirl of
Taylor Swift, fangirl of anything, right?
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:Like that was the term that they
decided, Oh, let's use that against them.
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:Ella: Yes.
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:It's so like, yeah, Just hearing the word
fangirl brings me back to this era of just
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:being a teenage girl who is being judged.
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:That just always brings me back.
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:It's incredible how much power
just a small word has on an
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:entire generation of girls who
are just trying to have interests.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: It's really the female
fans that bring all the good vibes.
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:I mean, we bring the signs, we
bring the cute merch, we, we make
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:a space for ourselves when maybe
F1 wasn't making spaces for us.
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:Ella: It's really not that hard
to just include women in it.
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:Just do a tiny thing that makes you feel
like you are seen and heard in that space.
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:And honestly, I'm seeing that
too with all the makeup brands
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:sponsoring liveries in sports.
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:Honestly, that's like probably one
of my favorite things so far because
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:people are not realizing how much
makeup brands can bring to a sport.
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:They are an amazing sponsor.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: We cannot look back
at some of our most iconic moments
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:of the pod without going back to our
very first everyday icon interview.
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:Oh, I'm getting emotional.
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:I knew I was gonna cry.
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:The next tee times sash that I'm about
to share radiant icons means so much
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:to me because you truly are nothing
in life without a really good friend.
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:And I am extremely lucky and fortunate
to have so many good friends, like a
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:handful of good friends, but there's
always one friend in particular that I
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:think of when I think of the evolution
of Dare to be Iconic because she
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:was there from the very beginning.
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:Um, and that's my friend Meleena.
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:Oh God, sorry you guys.
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:Um,
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:Meleena was the second person I ever
told about Dar to be iconic too.
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:And I truly cannot imagine my life or
this journey without her and her support.
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:The reason why you see all these
beautiful podcast cover arts or all
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:the beautiful photos on the website is
because of her and her belief in me and
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:my dream, which is dare to be iconic,
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:and it was an honor and a
privilege to have her as my
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:first guest on Dare to Be Iconic.
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:So obviously, sorry you guys, I'm like
crying so much, but thank God I didn't
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:wear makeup for this recording y'all.
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:But she just means a lot to me and
we couldn't look back at our most
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:iconic moments without mentioning
the people that mean the most to you.
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:Right.
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:She's one of them.
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:So in her very first
interview, like, oh my God.
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:So let's listen to Meleena.
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:Like, when I went through my first,
my, well, I guess both breakups, right?
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:Like, the amount of outpouring love
and support that I had from everyone.
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:Like, I remember you showing up
to, I was working at a theme park
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:here in Orlando as a performer.
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:And like, I remember you showing
up and how much that made my night.
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:Meleena: Aw.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: Like, it
was such a hard time for me.
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:I didn't know what was going on.
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:Meleena: I remember.
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:I remember that.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: And
like, you showed up.
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:And you, I think you were trying to
surprise me, but then you were like, I
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:need your set time, so please, please.
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:Yeah.
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:But you know, like, it's
just crazy things like that.
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:Or like, even throughout Meleena,
like, our Friendship, which is
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:something I'm so grateful for,
is how you've always shown up.
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:Don't make me cry, Meleena I'm gonna cry.
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:You always make me cry.
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:But like, every time I think of our
friendship, I think of how you've always
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:been there for me through thick and thin.
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:And how you've always supported
me through everything.
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:And it's friendships like
yours that remind me that.
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:No matter how I feel, whether I'm like
on top of the world or I'm like, really?
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:No.
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:I'm gonna cry, God depress
and all that, not us tear up.
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:If you're not watching the YouTube
version, you are really missing
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:out on the little one of tears
that are showing up in our eyes.
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:Meleena: Yep.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: But it reminds
me how your girlfriends really can
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:get you through anything, and that
shows you who your true friends are.
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:Meleena: I feel that so heavily.
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:They're just like necessary, I mean,
we're social creatures and all that but
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:yeah even friendships like they really
those real friends will be there for you
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:No matter what and it's it's so hard,
especially with something like a breakup
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:Especially your first one or a bad one.
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:Like you just need your friends
around you to make you know To
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:make that time easier and for them,
someone to lean on during that time.
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:Yeah, and I remember also my breakup,
how important it was to have my friends
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but you know, show me that, like
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:I know they're invaluable
and they really are.,
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:I know we're going to stay
friends for, for like ever.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: Duh,
you better not leave me.
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:No.
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:You're stuck with me now,
Meleena forever and always.
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:Meleena: We're going to grow into
old aunties, like rich aunties.
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:Ad: Welcome to the Fashionably
Single Podcast, where single life
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:This guy is sitting next to me and
this was like a no shoe kind of house,
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:so he had to take his shoes off.
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:They were playing cards, drinking, and
then all of a sudden he starts rubbing his
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his food, he goes back to his car.
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:I'm thinking he's
dipping out on this date.
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:I just told him I don't want to marry
him and I won't let him kill me.
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:So two millennials in
Austin, Texas, navigating.
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:Independence and becoming your best
self with confidence and style.
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:Amanda Paolicelli: So now that I
have stopped crying, radiant icons
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:that is your tea time sesh for today.
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:It wouldn't be a dare to be iconic
tea time sesh if I was not crying.
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:Like how truly iconic we have to start off
the celebration strong, and that always
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:happens with a good cry, or at least in my
case, you always have to have a good cry.
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:There's so much power in
embracing your vulnerability.
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:Like I said, radiant
icons anyway, and who.
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:That is, that is our tea time sesh.
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:That is our tea time sesh radiant icons.
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:So if you enjoyed today's episode,
make sure to subscribe to leave a
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about us, to tell everyone and anyone,
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:because you know, we love what?
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:radiant Icons.
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:We love more radiant icons in
our iconic community of ours.
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:I'll never get tired of saying that.
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:Thank you for changing my life.
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:Thank you for listening
to the pod and well.
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:If you love the pod, 'cause I know
you do, you've listened to this entire
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:Anyway, I will chat with y'all next week.
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:We're doing a little episode rewind.
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:You know it's that time of the
month and damn do I love it.
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:We're going back to the second ever
episode of Dare to Be Iconic, which
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:actually talks about the relationship
that I disclosed in the beginning
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:of February, my dating violence
relationship, also known as intimate
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:partner violence relationship.
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:It's really interesting seeing my growth
and like the trajectory of it throughout
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:the evolution of this podcast and my
business, but particularly this podcast,
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:because I would hint at it for so long of
something not so great happening to me.
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:And I would talk about it at certain
points in my healing journey, and
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:I would always dance around the
actual word of what happened to me.
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:That episode in particular,
season one, episode two.
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:That's a long ass time.
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:That was just the beginning.
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:That was just the beginning of me
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:gaining strength and power in my voice
so that we can get to the February
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:4th episode- Hot and Healing: How To
Turn Your Pain Into Power, where I
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:disclosed about my relationship at
length and shared an insight into what
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:I've been dealing with for nine years.
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:I can't wait to look back at the
beginning of this evolution for me.
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:So thank you guys for being here.
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:I love you all so much.
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:So remember radiant icons.
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:Dare to be iconic.
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