This bonus episode: you heard a couple of media clips of Werner Stump, BC rancher and current President of BC Cattlemans, in the episode with George Abbott released yesterday. In this bonus episode, Werner joins me to discuss his concerns about aspects of BC's approach to reconciliation and the potential impact to decisions like Cowichan. In our conversation he references the Provincial Agreement on Haida Aboriginal Title.

Then: a white landowner in Haida Gwaii shares her perspective about owning private title in the context of said agreement.

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Feb 25 Grazing Workshop Info

To learn more about the Organic BC/SSMPA grazing workshop advertised at the top and bottom of this episode, use the following link:

Grazing Workshop

Young Agrarians Mixer in Penticton Feb 28 to Mar 1

To learn more about the Young Agrarians event in Penticton on February 28, use this link:

YA Mixer Feb 2026

Feb 25 Grazing Workshop Info

To learn more about the Organic BC/SSMPA grazing workshop advertised at the top and bottom of this episode, use the following link:

Grazing Workshop

Young Agrarians Mixer in Penticton Feb 28 to Mar 1

To learn more about the Young Agrarians event in Penticton on February 28, use this link:

YA Mixer Feb 2026