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99. Bridging Cultures in Education: A Conversation with Andrea Bitner
Episode 993rd November 2023 • Equipping ELLs • Beth Vaucher, ELL, ESL Teachers
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As teachers of ELLs, we want every student to feel welcomed, safe, loved. We want every child to succeed. We want to celebrate diversity and admire the gift our students have in speaking multiple languages!

In our 99th episode host Beth Vaucher sits down for a lively chat with the amazing Andrea Bitner. Andrea is an author, speaker, and educator of 23 years. Join us as Andrea shares valuable insights and practical strategies for how to bridge the diverse cultures in your school.

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This is just honestly the best thing about having a podcast is all

the different connections that I have made through this platform

and. I love you reached out a couple of months ago and shared a

little bit about some projects you're doing and a book that you've

written. And it has just been so fun to see the passion you have

for multilingual learners and where that's taking you and to get

to have you on the show today to share more about

that. Thank you so much. I couldn't agree more. I mean, in the

journey that I've been on for the past few years as well, making

those. Connections and realizing that our bubbles of schools are

so much bigger

than we think

they are. When you get out into the world and meet educators like

yourself and beyond.

Exciting. It's exciting the world we're living in in that sense

for sure. Well, let's begin. Do I need to share a little bit about

your educational experience and what you're up to

now? Sure. So I've been in education for 24 years. I'm currently

in English Language learner Teacher based out of Philadelphia, PA.

In addition to that, I'm an author and also a speaker. But I

didn't start out that way. 24 years ago, I started out as a high

school English teacher, was hired right out of College over the

weekend. And given what I lovingly called some of the most at

risk, toughest kids in. The building. And. I was freshman class of

students and here I am bright eyed and bushy tailed and ready to

go and had just come off a great student teaching experience. And

I was given all these kids. That hated

school.

And I was like, what am I going

to do?

I was going home in tears. Why don't they like school? What did I

do? How can I attack this. How can I help them? So what I quickly

figured out was that I had a freshman class of students who didn't

know how to

read.

Wow. And they had gotten through school and had some feelings

about that. And so when I was putting this content in there in

front of them, they were really struggling with that. And the

behaviors that were coming from it were because of it. And so I

went back to school, and I continued to teach them. And I became a

reading specialist. So I got a master's in reading. And I learned

I felt unequipped at the time. Like, how am I going to help these

kids? So when I went back to school and became a. Reading

specialist. Then I felt like I had more tools in my toolbox. I

knew what to do when these students arrived at the high school

level. So as I was working with their students, I actually ended

up moving down to a middle school level. And I was a title one

reading specialist for a middle school for a few years. And I

really started to get curious about working with English learners

because I had this great grade level. Partner across the Hall,

Mike kinka, who was working with the elves in the building. And I

started to have elves in my reading groups. And I thought, how can

I help and support these kids better? So I went back to school

again, and I took a few years and got my certifications as an

English Language learner teacher. So really. 1st 17 of the 24

years I've been in education, I've been a support teacher. I've

always been working with students and teachers and administrators,

et cetera.

That's incredible. I love this and this really kind of hitting on

the topic we're going to be talking about today. We're going to be

talking about. A book that you've written called Take Me Home, and

before we get into that. It's clear even just by your story. Just.

How inspired you get by your students. I love that you see these

students, you identify why the behaviors are not just saying, oh,

they have behavior issues. You really went to the core of it, then

went on to get educated on how to teach them. I just love this how

those students are so inspirational to you. And that's really led

you to write this book. But how do you get there? How do you get

to that point where you're just having a. Connection with your

students is so strong, especially when you moved into working with

your English language learners. You're working with students who

don't speak English. Different cultures, different from all around

the world. Right in your classroom, it can feel really

overwhelming sometimes for some educators. So will you share a

little bit more before we dive into talking more about your book.

Of just some ways that teachers can build that same type of

connection with their students that trust, maybe share a few

questions. I know you have some essential questions that you

encourage teachers to ask. And just give us some insight into

that. Absolutely. The first thing I realized when working with

English Language learners is the best person to communicate with

about them is their parents. And so having teachers feel equipped

with resources to confidently communicate with their parents is

essential. And so using interpreters if the parent prefers the

language other than English or. Using apps if they're in person or

using great companies like Language based Services or propio One

or Talking Points or the Say Hi app, whatever resources you may

have, I always think you want to be Proactive, not reactive.

Right? So having that mentality of I definitely want to have a

conversation with this student's parents because they're the. Root

of information. To my students. And so I always start out by

reaching out to the students parents, via email and over the phone

and having a conversation about, where is your student coming

from? Are they coming from down the street? Did you just move a

neighborhood over? Are they coming from another state? Are they

coming from another country? Were they born here? What was their

formal education like, right. You want. To start to have these

conversations. What are their strengths? What are their worries?

And so from that, then you start to gauge. Some communication and

some connections with the parents in addition to that in the

classroom. I'm a huge believer that everybody in the building

needs to know your English language learners are why? Because 80%

of their interactions are outside of

the El

classroom. And so you want to try to proactively again, set them

up for success. So I'm the teacher in the building that's known

for. I'm walking them down to the cafeteria team. I'm walking them

to the maintenance team. I'm walking them to the trans.

Transportation team. We're in the office. I mean, we're

introducing our kids to everybody. So they start to gauge that

comfort zone with the support of the L teacher for that first

meeting.

From there now I start to think, Well, how do we connect our kids

not only building wide, but school wide and district wide. And so

we are really intentional about creating opportunities for our El

students to meet each other. And so many times they don't even

know we have 31 different languages in my district. And hundreds

of students a lot of times they're not even sure that there's

another student who speaks kamai around the hall. Or maybe there's

a friend who grades up that also speaks vietnamese. Or maybe

there's a buddy down in first grade that also speaks Spanish. And

so we start to be really intentional about connecting our kids

with activities throughout the year within the building. Then we

thought big. Bigger. Let's connect them throughout the district.

So we wrote some grants. And we are able to take our kids on four

community experiences every year that allows them to meet other

kids within the district. And then we said, Well, Hey, let's think

even bigger. And then we created a countywide El summer camp. And

so we're really great about connecting our kids. So. That they

don't ever feel that isolation of being the only student in the

building that possibly speaks different

languages.

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hear. Okay. All Right. Great. So. You pause right after in the

district. Yeah. So. After we connect our students district wide,

we started to think even bigger. And we thought, Well, how can we

connect our students? Countywide. So we created Summer countywide

El Camps that run for four weeks in the mornings, where we have

one host school, and everybody buses our students into that host

school for that summer. And we have teachers that run those. Camps

so kids can connect that way so. We are really proud of the work

that we're doing with connecting our students in all these

different opportunities. But in addition to that when I think

about the El students in the classroom within the building with

their teachers that they're spending time with. I always say it

doesn't matter if your student is an El student, a title one

student, a first grader, a 12th grader. Spending time in this

field for this amount of time, I've learned that all students and

families are looking for three things. They're looking to feel

respected. They're looking to feel accepted, and they're looking

to feel admired and. Ask their teacher if you can find ways to

show them that respect, that acceptance, that admiration. Not just

on their easy days, I say,

but

on their challenges.

Too

because you'll have kids that will work for you and you'll have

parents who feel that from you and will want to communicate with

you. So just really setting up all of these parameters, I think is

really important in the beginning of the year. In addition to

that, I always say to districts when I speak with them. Have you

been intentional about creating time for your El teachers to meet

with your students, content teachers, and team up because it's

really important that we go into the year with that mentality of

not a me but a we. Are a team. We have this amazing student with a

gift sitting in front of us. How can we work together to set them

up for success, make the accommodations they need that will fade

over time and keep checking in. And what will that schedule look

like. So really, all hands on deck, in that sense that we're

working together.

I love those ideas because. They really are just looking. In a

proactive way, I think that's when you will have success

throughout the year, when you take that time at the beginning of

the year, doing those exact same things, getting connected to the

parents. Of meeting with setting that schedule with the teachers.

All those things seem like a lot at the beginning of the year, but

I know I'm sure you probably have plenty of stories where because

you did that then when things came up down the road or you needed

to work differently with the teachers you're working with. You

already had built that kind of parameters. Like you're saying, you

already had that mutual respect going. On with parents and

whatever in that situation. Where it went, much smoother than if

it's the first time you're contacting a parent and you're having

to say, like, hey, we're having this issue, that type of thing. So

I love just kind of switching it and really looking at ways how

can we set our students up. For success. And what can I do?

Because. I love how you really looked. Beyond what's the next

thing we can do? Okay. We went from in our school to now in our

district to now countywide. I mean, that is so inspirational to

just be like, yeah, keep dreaming, write those grants, find those

ways. And I'm sure so much power in students seeing that there's

other students who speak the same language as them in the district

or in the area, or maybe even the families connecting outside of

school.

And when we plan those family events, I always say we incorporate

the four F family food, free and fun and. Making sure there is no

childcare required. Bring

the whole family,

making sure you have a location that's central most families can

at least get

to

school. Even if the location is elsewhere. So providing that

transportation to your families, from the school to that event,

having a ton of food. We've done things like pizza on the

playground, where

it's simple.

Pizza outside. The kids can play. They're having a blast. Our

older students at the high school level act as mentors. Come down

to help supervise those students. Now, I have access to your

parents who love meeting each other. And we can give them

resources right where we work with local libraries, where we

geared up for the summer. They're giving out library cards.

They're seeing what programs are available for the summer. Mr.

Softy, the ice cream chalk came outside. It was awesome. These

parents connect with each other because you're right. They don't

often get opportunities because they're not in school all day.

They're not being given that free education right now. They're

working or they're at home taking care of their family. So

reducing that isolation for them is extremely important as

well. Amazing. Those ideas are gold. I love it and simple about

this. All right, so let's move into your book. I would love to

spend some time sharing about this. Can you give us just a quick

summary. And share more about your heart and mission for writing

this. Yes. So Take Me Home is the true story of eleven of my

former students from almost every continent who give a first. Hand

look of what it was really like to become bilingual in America.

And it's written in English. And it also repeats in Spanish, all

within the same

book.

And the mission and inspiration came from it. Because about ten

years ago, I worked with about 40 different students at the high

school level. And they had about 25 different languages. And they

came from all walks of life. I had students that were adopted. I

had exchange students. I had kids that crossed the border. I had

kids that were born here. I had students that had waited ten years

for. A Visa and came later, after their parents. I had kids that

came ten years before their parents. And so we had this really

diverse group of students. And no matter where they came from or

what their proficiency level was coming into the classroom, we

knew that we had four years or less at that high school level to

give them an opportunity to have some free education and prepare

them to be a young, bilingual professional

in the world.

And so in the classroom, we had this big banner. And it said,

Education is opportunity. Education is freedom. What's your plan?

Because our kids knew that their only plan can't be I'm going to

return to my country right now, or I'm going to return to the

state I came from or a block over down the street. It can't be

that. And they knew that their plan couldn't be I'm not going to

be successful here. Because we would tell them your parents have

worked too hard to give you this gift, along with your teachers,

of becoming bilingual. And so we're going to work hard at this

plan, to develop it to get you on your next chapter of your life.

And so we went through this mentality. And I worked with these

amazing kids. And there was one particular family. I worked with

the Lopez family. And I had taught all seven of their children

over time. And it was all boys

and one

girl. And they happened to be from the country of salvador. And

I've traveled to salvador myself a few times to work with a school

down there. And so I knew this family for many years. And they all

went through this plan. And they all signed that banner. When they

graduated. And about a year after the youngest Nancy had

graduated, the only girl in the family I was teaching one day, and

there were a bunch of helicopters outside, and I thought, wow, I

hope everything's okay. There's a lot of helicopters outside

today. And about an hour after that, my principal came down to get

me to let me know that one of my students had. Been hit by the

train.

And unfortunately that student was Nancy, and she passed away that

day. And one of the most challenging parts that began that day

into the coming weeks was that mom and dad were still learning

English

themselves.

So when they received the call that something had happened to one

of the kids, no one on the local force spoke Spanish. And so they

could kind of put together that something was wrong, and they

could kind of put together that something. Had happened to one of

the kids, but they didn't know which one it

was.

And so they went up to the track. And they stood there for hours

calling and waiting and trying to figure out what had happened

until we could all get there to support them. And so in those

coming weeks. One of my jobs. In addition to the many experiences

we went through and the trauma that it caused not only the kids

but the community. Dad's, a pastor mom works alongside him. The

school, et cetera was for me to speak at her funeral. And so at

the time, I created this short little poem, and I called it Take

Me Home, and it was an homage to. Nancy's life story. And that

piece of paper sat on my desk after that experience. And I

continued to teach these awesome kids. And one day I looked at

that piece of paper, and I thought, Well, maybe something about

this could help someone, maybe it would be inspirational for other

teachers or kids in the country. So I set that out on a whim to

some pub. Publishers. And a couple of months later, this publisher

gets back to me and they're like, hey, Andrea, we really like your

poem, but we don't want you to write a poem. We want you to write

a book. And we're going to give you six months

to do it.

And if you come back with something that we like, we're going to

take you on and publish. And that's why I started to think to

myself, Well, I don't just want to tell her story. I want to tell

all their stories because they're so different. So many people in

my experience as a support teacher have had assumptions about our

English language learners, and I started to feel like it was part

of my mission to debunk some of those and help people understand

just how amazing and diverse these students are. And so I went

back and found eleven of my former. English learners who were now

in late 20s, early thirty s. And I said to them now that you are a

young, bilingual, professional, out and living in the world and

you can look back on your school experiences, what were they

really like for you? And so from those conversations over months

after. We came up with Take Me home. And so we are really proud of

it. We changed the students names to names of strength. So we have

names like grit and Fuel and Surgeon Bolton Charge. Nancy is known

as Shine in the story. I was able to go back and interview mom and

dad. So we tell all their stories and we weave her stories through

it. And we're really proud of the work it's doing. It's been read

around the country. It's been read around the world by educators.

By support teachers by El students. I just got a call last week.

It's being read in Kansas by 100

seniors.

So it's really changing perspectives and shedding light on how

awesome these young people are.

Wow. That's incredible. Andrea. I love how going back to. Your

first point you made just seeing your students as so inspirational

and really giving them that spotlight to shine is so powerful.

We'll put a link for sure in the show notes because I know anyone

listening is like, Let me get my hands on that. That sounds

amazing, especially if you're working with high school ells. It

sounds like an incredible project to use and read through the book

and then have students really give them an opportunity to share

their story as well. I'm sure there's different ways that

teachers. Could use that in that type of way, too. But stories are

so they're just so powerful. And I love how you really talked

about how you really looked at different students you had and the

different paths that they took to get into the United States. And

you had students from many different backgrounds in different ways

that some born there some cross. Over the border. Some waited for

visas. I'm sure that you saw. Just many of your students. They

faced different challenges. Of assimilating. To the new country

that they're living in versus preserving their own culture. How do

you feel like or do you hit on this in the book of just how some

of the students they navigated. This tightrope. I call it this

living in between of like you're kind of a foreigner in your new

country. But then if you go back to your and visit your old

country, you're kind of a foreigner there as well. So there's just

so much that kids endure. And acclimate and assimilate and. Face

as they walk through these different. Seasons of life. And it's

just incredible to see. Just how incredible our students are and

what they face and what they are able to get through. So hit it on

that point, Andrea. Just how the students kind of walk through

that of adjusting to the new culture, but also still preserving

the culture that they left.

Absolutely, they did. And one of the stories that you're talking

about makes me think of one of the young men in the book, his name

is Embraced. He was born here in the US, in wilmington, delaware,

and his family was from. South America, and he said he always had

this sense being at home. That they'll be speaking Spanish, and

then going to school and speaking English. That the world was much

bigger than wilmington, delaware. He always kind of was instilled

with there's a lot more to the world than just what's here on our

block. And so he said he always felt like he had a secret party

trick because. He could flick back and forth between English and

Spanish whenever he wanted to. But he didn't realize. Those

differences within his culture, within his language, within his

experiences until about third grade. And that's when I've noticed

as well like that social awareness starts to set in in general and

so kids and even with that I work with now that I teach right

around the end of second, middle of third grade. Will start to

notice that they have that secret party trick that they can do

something that other

kids

can. And they'll say that to me they'll say, Miss B, I can do

something my friends can't do. I can speak

mandarin and I'm like.

Isn't that awesome. Or on the flip side, they'll start to go. My

mom's. English. Isn't that

good.

And they'll start to notice that. And I'm like, okay. And I'll say

to them, Well, that's great. You have an opportunity to practice

yours all the time. Or they'll start to say, My mom and dad really

need me to help them speak a lot. I have to go to a doctor's

appointment, or I have to go to order at a restaurant. So those

types of things will start to affect. Their thoughts on the

differences between the two worlds. They also navigate it in terms

of simple things. And I don't say simple in a way that's not

respectful. But

holiday differences.

Food differences bringing foods to school that maybe other kids

are unaware of. Clothing differences. Right holidays. They're not

willing to celebrate that. Maybe some of their friends do. So they

start to have to navigate. All these different touch points along

their school career. And sometimes it can be really challenging

for them. And so we try to do our best to provide opportunities to

highlight those differences and to help them be proud of those

differences. And to allow their friends to be a part of those

differences in learning more about them. And we do things within

the classroom to promote that like people who are proud of me,

bores are in my classroom. And so we say to the kids, make a list

of five people in your life who you know are proud of you. And

then we send that list home, and parents will email me. Pictures.

So I've got aunts and uncles and grandmas and grandpa's and

teachers within the building and cafeteria workers and maintenance

staff and whoever is in their life, right that matters to them are

now watching them. And we built this beautiful board in our

classroom. And the kids promote conversation from it. In addition

to that, we have Bring a friend to Class Day, where they're

bringing in their monolingual peers. Because their friends always

say, I don't want to come to your room. I want to come for group.

And I laugh. And I'm like, Well, I work with, I always say, the

best and brightest in the building. And you're one of the best and

brightest, too. But you have to be invited by one of my students.

And so bring a friend. A is a big deal. What does it do? It

bridges that light, that gap of understanding. So now they're in

the classroom and they're looking and they're showing them these

pictures of the people that are proud of them. And. On those

boards are everything you're saying. The language differences, the

cultural differences, the clothing differences, the food

differences. And it's promoting conversation in a

safe

place where our kids get to feel

proud.

And so in addition to that, we put a lot of literacy into our

program to promote those diversities. We're reading stories.

Called I Am an English. Learner Stories. We just read last week.

We just read Yosebalingue last week and starting to bring that

awareness of look at all of these pieces of the world that are so

much bigger than you that we're incorporating into your daily life

within my building. My principal took it upon himself to put the

flags from all of the different kids and their cultures. Within

the building on the wall. So they run the length of the

walls in the

hallways. And then they've got the countries on top of them. So as

kids are walking down the Hall. That's promoting awareness and

conversation. Oh, there's morocco. Our kids were so excited, they

came running. And did you see my cambodian flag? Is there? Yeah, I

saw it. So I could go on and on. But I really think these are just

ways to promote positivity and conversation in respect to those

ideas. Wow. And again, Andrea, I think this is such an episode

that's just so filled with golden nuggets, because those are

really simple things. I mean, I love that idea of bring a friend

and really breaking down those barriers of that mystery. What

happens in there? Why do you have to go to her all that talk

instead of make it this amazing thing, like, sure you get to come

say because. You are at Spring, A Friend Day and creating a safe

spaces for students to feel confident and excited to share about

their superpower and about their culture. And then in a way that

is just a really positive space. I love that so incredible? We're

running out of time? So. I want to quickly talk to you about. Your

book. You share about eleven different students that you taught

with. What personal lessons or insights have you gained about the

human spirit, resilience, and the pursuit of dreams? Anybody who's

worked with multilingual learners sees that in these students and

these families that have overcome so much. Many very young

children have overcome so much and you see that in them, that

spirit in them that they are going to do big things. And it's such

a blessing and honor to get to support them and help them in this

journey. But share a little bit about that. As you had your

students share their stories. What were some of your takeaways

from

that. There were a few, I think one of the biggest conversation

pieces we had throughout their experiences was that lack of

language never equals lack of intelligence. And they had to

navigate that in many areas and experiences through their life.

And I think that's really important for people to take away that

point when you meet someone learning for. The learning English for

the first time. Treat that period of their life like an asset, not

a deficit. It's not a handicap. This is something that's going to

grow over time and something else I think they've really

experienced was that no one achieved success alone. Island living

is no fun. And you need to have. A group of people around you

through your time when. You're learning this language? Who what I

have called binocular thinking and not microscope thinking. And so

through these conversations with them, it was easy to see that

they had people around them who could see the long term future,

who could see where they were headed and were willing to go with

them. And through the day to day survival, some of. Them needed in

order to get

them

there. And so just having that binocular thinking, not that

microscope thinking is so pivotal for our kids. I can't tell you

how many lunches we would have with some of our kids, where they

would just be tears. And I can't do this. And I want to go back.

And we'd say, you can do it just one step at a time. One. Day at a

time. And here we are years later, seeing these successful young

people. That we're extremely proud of. So I think those are some

of the things that really hit home from the

talks that we had.

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