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15 Common Factors Underlying Depression EP 198
Episode 19818th August 2023 • The Demartini Show • Dr John Demartini
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You find that if life was this way, I'd be happy. And people are addicted,

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if I had this, my parents did this, I'd be happy.

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Or if my wife wouldn't do this, I'd be happy.

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And then they don't realize that they're putting themselves in one of those 15

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delusions most commonly,

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In all probability in your life,

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you've probably had a moment where you felt depressed or down or maybe

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not on top of the world. Or maybe you know,

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somebody around you that's in a real low period, maybe a depression,

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or maybe even diagnosed clinically depressed.

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I've certainly run into thousands of those in my work as I've traveled and

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spoken. I'd

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like to talk about taking command of your depression today.

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So if you have something to write with and write on,

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and I have a feeling you'll get a few notes, it's worth taking care of here.

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I'd like you to first imagine a magnet.

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We have a positive and negative pole of a magnet.

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And I want you to imagine that the positive pole of the magnet

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is something you seek.

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And the negative pole of the magnet is something you're trying to avoid.

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You're trying to get a positive without a negative.

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And you try to cut the magnet in half and just get the positive pole of the

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magnet. When you cut the magnet in half,

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you find out that you got a positive and negative and a positive and negative to

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get two little magnets.

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So you didn't accomplish the game of getting a one-sided magnet.

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And the same thing,

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if you cut that in half and did that again and again and again and kept cutting

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it in half, you'd still, as long as there's molecules or atoms there,

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you would have positive and negative.

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And so you are going to get a balance of those two.

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If you meet somebody,

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you may have an assumption that you're going to get a positive without a

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negative , nice without mean, kind without cruel,

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generous without stingy, supportive without challenging,

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But in all probability,

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you're mature enough to know that when you get with somebody,

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there's always a new set of challenges and pains that come with it.

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The negative side. You have positives and negatives.

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So in the relationships you have and in the events and goals that you have,

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anytime you're pursuing something that's one-sided, you'll get broadsided by

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the other side of the magnet.

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Life itself are events that have two sides.

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You can always see one way or the other.

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You can subjectively bias your interpretation,

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see only one side and ignore the other one with a false positive on the

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positives and a false negative on the negatives,

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where you're seeing something that's not there or you're not seeing something

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that is there. And you can give yourself the impression, at least initially,

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that there's a positive without a negative or a negative without a positive.

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But in actuality, over time, you eventually discover that there's both.

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You've all had goals and you've set out for and,

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and you thought this is going to give you more advantage than disadvantage and

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then you found out there was a whole bunch of challenges that came with it,

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you didn't expect and broadsided. The same thing in relationship.

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You get in there and you get a fatal attraction and you find out, oops,

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it's Glenn Close, you are Michael Douglas in Fatal

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attraction.

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So anytime you pursue a one-sided

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event, a one-sided relationship, a one-sided anything goal,

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you're setting yourself up for being blind, you know,

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blindsided by the side that you're ignoring.

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When somebody sets a true objective, they embrace both sides.

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And when they have both sides,

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they're now prepared and they have expectations that match what's actually

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there. But if you have an expectation of getting one side,

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your expectations are high and you have a bit of a fantasy,

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and then when they hit you with the other side,

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you're now upset and depressed.

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So I want to have you write this down. Depression,

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the way I define it, is a comparison of your current reality, which is balanced,

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to a fantasy about how life's supposed to be,

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which is one-sided.

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I've worked with thousands of people that have had depression and even been

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diagnosed with clinical depression and on medications and pharmaceuticals and

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all kinds of things. I see them in my seminar almost every week.

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And what I find is a series of unrealistic expectations

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driving this depression. I want you to know that inside your mind,

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if you're depressed,

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you're focusing on the downsides and you're comparing it to the fantasy that

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you're holding in your mind about how you wanted it to be.

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I've yet to find anybody who's depressed that doesn't have that, not one.

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And I know that they've been told, well they've got a biochemical imbalance.

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The pharmaceutical companies love to make you think that.

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And you may have biochemical imbalances,

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no doubt your neurotransmitters are imbalanced whenever you have ratios of

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perceptions imbalanced.

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And anytime you have an expectation of a one-sided event,

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you're going to get smacked with an unexpected.

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So let me give you 15 reasons what I found most common in

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depression. So make sure you write these down, .

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The first unrealistic expectation that's sort of a fantasy is that when you meet

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individuals that you're interacting with, you expect them to be one-sided.

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You expect them to be nice, not mean, kind, not cruel, positive, not negative,

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peaceful, not wrathful, generous, not stingy, giving, not taking, considerate,

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not inconsiderate, et cetera, et cetera, positive without negative.

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And anytime you have even a 51% or more of

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one side more than the other,

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you're going to set yourself up for having a little bit of you know, depression.

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Because you're not meeting your expectation.

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And when you're not meeting expectation, you get angry and aggressive.

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You feel blame them and you feel betrayed. You get criticism and challenge,

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despair and depression, desire to exit and escape,

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futility and frustration, grouchiness and grief, hatred and hurt,

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and irritability and irrationality.

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And then even you feel like they're a jerk and you feel jaded.

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I call those the ABCDEFGHIJ's of negativity.

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So that negative experience is a compensation for the fantasy that they're

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supposed to be one-sided. So anytime you expect a human being to be one-sided,

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another individual, you're going to end up with the ABCDs of negativity,

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guarantee it, because it's not going to happen.

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They may start out that way for the first time you meet them and almost anybody

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can put on that act. But long term, the probability,

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every time you interact with somebody,

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you have a higher probability because the sample size of interactions go up,

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a higher probability of what you call the mean distribution of responses,

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which means a balance of positives and negative responses.

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So anybody who's been married for a period of time knows there's things you like

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and dislike, the positive and negatives of the individual.

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So if you expect somebody to be one sided, not both sides,

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you're going to be setting yourself up for an unrealistic expectation.

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And life's not going to match your expectation. And the fantasy,

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what you have creates the nightmare of your life.

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But if you have an expectation for them to live according to what they are and

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then know that they're going to have both sides,

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your expectation is calm and your expectation is more real.

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And so they match your expectation and you feel fulfilled,

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because you're getting what you expect.

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Now the second thing that leads to this depression state is an expectation on

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them and unrealistic expectation on other people to live in your values.

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Now this is when you are self righteously,

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projecting your values down on somebody and expecting them to live in your

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values and meet your needs,

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instead of caring enough to communicate what you value in terms of what they

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value so they're actually having a sustainable fair exchange.

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So the second you expect them to live in your values,

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you're going to be betrayed. You're going to end up angry and aggressive again,

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and you're going to be depressed because they're not living up to your values.

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I see this in relationships.

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Wives are basically expecting husbands to come home and be with the kids

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sometimes.

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And then the husbands are expecting the wives to not spend so much because

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they're trying to get ahead financially, it's a general rule,

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that could be reversed,a female could be working and the man could be taking

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care of the kids or anywhere in between. But the reality is,

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if you expect somebody to live in your values, not their own values,

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you have futility. They're not going to do that.

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Every decision people make is based on what they believe will give, you know,

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fulfillment to their values, not yours.

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So if you expect them to live in your values,

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you're going to end up with the ABCDs of negativity.

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And if you put those two together,

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expect them to be one-sided and expect them to be living in your values,

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you have a very strong probability of having a fantasy because of this.

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And your life's a nightmare because it's not matching it. And you feel let down,

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you felt down. And that is your, your depression is not an enemy,

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it's not this disease.

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It's a feedback to let you know that you're addicted

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and fantasies and one-sided expectations on life.

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And so the, the third one is a combination of the first two.

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The fourth one is an unrealistic expectation on yourself to live one-sided.

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Now you're expecting yourself to be always up, always positive, always kind,

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always this. And you know, when you're a child, you had your grandmother,

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your mother's saying, now be nice, don't be mean, be kind, don't be cruel,

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be positive, don't be negative, be generous, don't be stingy, be peaceful,

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don't be wrathful, stop fighting.

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And they're projecting that onto you and then they turn around and do just the

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opposite. It's a moral hypocrisy. So you're growing up with this fantasy,

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this moral hypocrisy, you're supposed to be one-sided. You can't,

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nobody can live that way. And so we can,

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we can try that way we can be socially repressed and try to put that facade on

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at times. But long term, based on the interactions of people,

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the longer we are interacting with people,

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the more probable we have a balance of responses.

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So the fourth one is the unrealistic expectation yourself to be one-sided.

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The fifth one is an unrealistic expectation on

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values in somebody else's.

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Now this is very common when you meet somebody and you're highly infatuated with

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them and you have a delusion about who they're going to be and you don't want to

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lose them for the fear of loss of them would be, you know,

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a loss of that what you seek. And in the process of doing it,

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you minimize yourself trying to live up to their expectation and you eventually

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get up angrier and resentment because you have to sacrifice yourself to be with

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them.

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So you end up depressed because you're not able to be yourself around them.

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But anytime you try to live in their values,

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you're going to have self-defeating, it's going to be futile,

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you can't sustain it, it's non-sustainable.

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You can't live in other people's values and you can't expect them to live in

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your values. It's unsustainable.

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So if you expect yourself to live in their values,

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you're going to have depression again,

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because you're not going to live up to it.

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So if you learn the art of communicating what you value in terms of their values

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and they're getting what they want by you being who you are,

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now you have a sustainable system and you have realistic expectation.

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So if you expect yourself to be one-sided or expect yourself to live outside

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your values, you're going to have the ABCDs of negativity and depression,

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or mild degrees.

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Now if you put those two together and now you put number five, pardon me,

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number six, together, now you have a combination of those two,

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just like combination of the first two.

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Now you've got six possible ways there that can generate a depression.

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Now the seventh one is a combination of all of them.

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You basically have an unrealistic expectation on

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outside their values and then live in your values and an unrealistic expectation

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on yourself to be one side and to live in somebody else's values and put all

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those together,

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now you've got a compounded depression because you're now angry at the world

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because the world's not matching your unrealistic expectation and fantasy.

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Every time I've had people that have been clinically depressed, I ask them,

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what are you comparing your life to? And then they come up with something, well,

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my mom should have been here, my dad didn't do this, my wife's not doing this.

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I go, if they did, what would be the drawback? They go,

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I don't see any drawbacks. I'd be happy if I did.

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Well as long as you have a fantasy that's one-sided and then your life is not

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matching that well, of course you're going to be depressed. And your depression,

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which is this quote, negative experience,

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is basically a compensation for your addiction to the other side,

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the positive experience. If you embrace both sides, you don't have that.

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And if you expect people to live in their values and you don't have unrealistic

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expectations, they won't betray you. Betrayal is not what somebody does to you,

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it's what you do to yourself with an unrealistic expectation.

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Now let's go to the next one.

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The next one is an unrealistic expectation on the collective society.

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Now you expect the world to be at peace without war and kind without cruel and

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give without take and generous and not stingy and considerate and not

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inconsiderate. But if you look,

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there's a law of eristic escalation that says that whatever somebody is striving

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for, there's somebody playing the opposite role.

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You probably in your own family have a brother or sister that's like your

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antiparticle, the behavior is completely opposite.

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The world is made out of complementary opposites.

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And for everything that's going on, there's somebody with an opposite view,

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pro-life, pro-abortion, pro guns, anti-gun, pro-democratic,

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pro-Republican or whatever. They're constantly having pairs of opposites.

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So if you expect the world to match one sidedness, it's again another delusion.

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We need both sides in order to evolve.

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Just like you have an autonomic nervous system,

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one for sympathetic for fight or flight, one for parasympathetic,

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for rest and digest. You need both, day night cycles,

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you need both of those systems. The fight or flight during the day,

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the rest and digest at night.

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You need a both in balance of life and so does society.

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So if you expect society to be one side,

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you're going to be angry at the world and then you're going to go listen to the

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TV or whatever and the mass media and it's going to be telling you one side and

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the other and you're going to be emotionally distraught

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expecting the world and they're giving you negative media purposely because it

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sells because it represents a predator and makes us, you know,

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stand alert and watch it.

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And so they're selling you that and then you're end up going but you have an

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expectation life to be positive and then you end up beating yourself up and

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angry at the world. Now if you on top of that,

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go and project onto the collective society your values and expect the whole

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world to live in your values, I see this very commonly. People say,

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well if people would just do this, the world will be fine.

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And that's delusional.

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And we are depressed because life's not matching our values and we want

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everybody to match our values. I was speaking at the United Nations,

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UNESCO in France one time to delegates there that were being trained.

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And I was amazed at how many delusions the people who were delegates were having

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because they were expecting the world to be at peace if they would just abide by

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their value system. It was a bit kind of bizarre to see how,

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you know,

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somebody who's going to be the future delegate is going to be living in such a

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delusion, but people do.

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Then you also have unrealistic expectations of the two,

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that you expect the world to be one-sided and to live in your values.

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So add all those up, that's another three on top of the seven we had,

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now we've got 10. And now the 11th one is all the above. You add all those up,

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now you've got even more depression.

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It just keeps compounding because you have completely unrealistic expectations

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on life. The next one is an unrealistic expectation on mechanical objects.

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I've seen people really just take their computer and throw it on the ground

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almost, they're screaming at it. Silly, stupid computer.

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You have an unrealistic expectation on a computer to be nice, not mean,

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or positive, not negative, or function, not non-function.

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And a lot of times it's because we don't know how to run the computer and we get

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expect this thing to work and read our minds or something and do what we expect

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instead of knowing how to run the computer. But we have mechanical objects,

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garage door openers, cars, any mechanical object, computers,

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that we now expect to be one-sided. Or on top of that,

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expect to live in our values.

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And if all of a sudden everything that we thought of showed up on our computer,

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we might be a little surprised by what we found on there.

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But we have an unrealistic expectation on mechanical objects and technology

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and then we think they're going to save the world.

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But it's just a reflection of human behavior. And then

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now you have those three and then you add them all up and you have 15

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unrealistic expectations and delusions about life that I

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see in people that are depressed. So I've had people that say,

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well I'm on clinical, you know,

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I'm on medication cause I've clinical depression,

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I've got a biochemical imbalance, which has been refuted about six months ago

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it was refuted and shown to not be the real factor,

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but it was sold by the pharmaceutical companies.

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And what's interesting is you go there and you ask , okay,

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what exactly are you depressed about? Well they'll say, I don't know. Well,

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you cannot have a feeling without content in the mind.

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So go to the moment when you're depressed and then look at the content in your

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mind and you can identify what's going on.

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And we then go and find out that it's some unrealistic expectation.

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We find that if life was this way, I'd be happy. And people are addicted,

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if I had this, my parents did this, I'd be happy,

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or if my wife wouldn't do this, I'd be happy.

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And then they don't realize that they're putting themselves in one of those 15

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delusions most commonly. And then I go, well, if they did what you fantasized,

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what would be the drawback? They can't see a drawback. Well,

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anytime you see a positive without a negative, you have a fantasy.

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And anytime you're addicted to a fantasy that's all positive,

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life's going to suck.

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Life's going to be depressed because you're going to expect it to be one-sided,

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and this is not likely to occur.

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So depression is a comparison of your current reality, which is balanced,

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to a fantasy about how it's supposed to be, which is imbalanced.

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You're expecting others to live in your values,

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you're expecting yourself to live in other people's values,

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you're expecting life to be one-sided, or collectively.

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So once you get grounded about what's real in expectation,

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you calm down a lot of depressions. In the Breakthrough Experience program,

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which I've taught for almost 35 years,

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I've had people not even telling me that they had depression in the program

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and then I'm getting a letter from them says I've literally had depression for

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13 years, I've been on medication, and everything else,

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after the program of doing the Demartini Method on my mom,

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the thing I was so bitter about, I'm not depressed anymore,

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my depression lifted.

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Because for for many years there was an unrealistic expectation on a parent.

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The parent's supposed to be a certain way. The parent is the parent,

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the way it is, you have to ask, how's whatever they're being like, serving you?

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To compare them to something that they're not, is unrealistic.

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Anytime you expect something other than what it is,

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to be something other than what it is, you got an unrealistic expectation.

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If you expect somebody one sided, they're not going to do that.

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They're going to let you down, not because they're letting you down,

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but because you're letting yourself down by putting an unrealistic expectation

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on them. So get grounded about your expectations. ,

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the philosophers of the ages said, if you have all these fantasy expectations,

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life's going to be miserable.

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But if you get grounded about realistic expectations and set real objectives,

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the executive center in your brain is designed to mitigate the risks that

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come with the fantasies that you get addicted to.

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If you set a goal that's only one-sided and it's only positive, not negative,

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you're going to have intuition bring up your anxieties, fears,

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self depreciations to try to point out that that's not real.

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Life's got two sides. But if you set a goal,

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an objective that's embracing both sides and you're mitigating the risk and

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you're preparing for it and you've got an expectation that's real,

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you achieve your goal, you're not depressed and you move forward.

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So I'm a firm believer in setting realistic expectations and not fantasies.

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You don't go to Mars or Elon Musk doesn't go to Mars with a fantasy,

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goes to Mars with putting the engineers in there and thinking what could go

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wrong? Thinking of the positive and negatives,

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preparing for both of them and mitigating the risks and then going for it.

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And the same thing in a relationship.

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If you want to have a a real fulfilling relationship,

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don't expect a one-sided relationship,

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don't expect them to live in your values and set realistic expectations.

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They're going to live by their values, make decisions accordingly,

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and they're going to be two-sided. You support their values, they're nice,

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you go against their values, they're mean.

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By grounding yourself and setting really balanced expectations,

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you automatically don't have these depressions.

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Now I know that they're going to try to tell you that well it's because of a b

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iochemical imbalance, but what is biochemical imbalance?

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Neurotransmitters in the brain respond to perceptions.

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If a tiger comes into a room and you all of a sudden you're frightened,

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your testosterone, your cortisol, your adrenaline is going to skyrocket,

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your serotonin, your endorphins, enkephalin's,

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and estrogen are going to plummet.

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If all of a sudden you find out it's Tony Tiger and he hugs you,

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and it's your childhood friend, Tony Tiger,

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then the thing will reverse in 200 of a millisecond.

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Your chemistry is changing constantly according to your perceptions.

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You have control over your perceptions.

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Pharmaceutical industry wants you to believe that it's because of their

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biochemical imbalance and they're the solution.

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But you're actually the solution. Now, you can store in your subconscious mind,

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in your hippocampus, an amygdala response. Every time you have a perception,

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your amygdala assigns a valency, positive or negative to it.

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It stores it in the hippocampus and short-term memory and sometimes long-term

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memory. And if we store that and we have expectations based on it,

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we can store and create memories that lead us to having unrealistic

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expectations. And then we have biochemical imbalances.

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It's not because that's the cause, that's murky,

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it's because it's the effect of our perceptions.

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I want to give you your power back and teach you that it's about your

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perceptions. That's why when I teach the Breakthrough Experience,

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I show people these, these 15 delusions. I show how to dissolve those delusions.

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I show how to set realistic expectations.

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I show how to live by priority where you're more objective and balanced.

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I show you how to dissolve the emotions that may have been building up in your

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subconscious mind so you can clear those.

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So if you're in a situation where you're depressed, you have a solution,

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you're empowered again, you're taking command of your life.

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You're not necessarily discarding it over to here to some pharmaceutical company

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and become a dependent. I don't want you to be a dependent,

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I want you to be independently empowered in your life by setting realistic

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expectations with real values, with real strategies that give you real results.

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And then you're grateful for your life. If you're not grateful for your life,

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somehow you're setting up fantasies and you're not meeting those fantasies and

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then you're angry and you're ungrateful and that's totally a result of your

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own perceptions and your own expectations.

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That's why in the Breakthrough Experience,

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I show people how to determine their values so they can live by their highest

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values where they're more objective, so they set realistic expectations,

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not polarized expectations. If they live in lower values,

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they tend to go for a pleasure without a pain.

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When they go in the highest values,

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they embrace pain and pleasure in some pursuit of something deeply meaningful.

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There's more fulfilling, more realistic expectations, more achievement.

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So in the Breakthrough Experience, I show people how to determine their values,

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how to set priorities by values, how to delegate lower priority things,

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how to then using with the Demartini Method,

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how to dissolve all the baggage that's stored in the subconscious mind that

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holds people back and it's running around and causing that imbalance. I mean,

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literally when they do the Demartini Method,

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they're changing the chemistries in their brain. Absolutely.

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They're changing the heart rate variability, the

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They're setting realistic expectations, they're learning to love.

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It's amazing what happens if all of a sudden they balance it out.

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So that's what the Demartini Method's for,

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to clear out the subconscious baggage that's got the imbalanced chemistries and

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automatically set real objectives so you have realistic expectations.

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And you dissolve away the depression .

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We've had thousands of people come and say, you know, hey, I was depressed,

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I'm not depressed anymore. I understand what's behind it now.

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And I'm amazed at how many people just fall,

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the majority of people out in the world just fall for it,

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and there's like 30% of the population are taking drugs. It's insane.

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Absolutely not the path that I promote.

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I'm not saying that there's not a place for it for some people I guess that

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don't want to do the work and don't want to be accountable and don't want to

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break their illusions,

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and may have some sort of damaged brain or whatever from injuries or something.

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But that's not the majority.

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The majority of people can take command of their life and really transform their

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physiology and psychology.

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So that's why I wanted to go over these 15 delusions and unrealistic

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expectations. Just know you don't get a one-sided magnet,

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and people that are living in a fantasy world, they're going to have depression.

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Depression is a comparison of your current reality to a fantasy or unrealistic

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expectation that you're living in.

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If you get grounded and have a realistic expectation, it calms down.

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Depression's not your enemy, it's not even a disease in my opinion.

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It's a feedback mechanism to let you know that you're addicted to something

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that's unrealistic and it's trying to get you grounded and getting realistic

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again. And the moment you do, it calms. And I've seen it happen,

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and I've seen really, really challenging cases,

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there've been years of medication and sometimes getting them,

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I don't take people off medication, they take themselves off.

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I just tell people,

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let's just clear out the illusions and then let you decide what is going on with

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your physician.

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And many times they were able to wean themselves right off the medications.

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Not because that they were told by me to do it,

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but they just did it with their physician. And they said,

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I'd like to wean it 10%, 10%, 10%.

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And some have just say cold turkey because they understand what was really

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behind their depression.

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And they have completely delusionary expectations sometimes.

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And so I love breaking those fantasies so they can get grounded and get reality.

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The magnificence of who they are is far greater than the fantasies they impose

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on themselves.

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So if you've had depression and you're sitting there and you want to transcend

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it, come to the Breakthrough Experience. Let me show you the tools,

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I'll give you the tools. You can do it on your own.

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You can always have your medication,

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but you may be able to set yourself free and not have to go through that and go

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through and take command of your life and realize what's actually going on.

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The second you take command and you dissolve it with the Demartini Method,

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the baggage and the subconsciously stored emotional stuff that's distracting

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you, the infatuation resentments, the griefs and all that, the expectations,

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and ground that and set realistic expectations according

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your life changes. That's one of the reasons. I mean since I was, you know,

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very young, I've wanted to help people master life.

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I am absolutely certain this helps you master your life.

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It's amazing what I've seen, the transformations.

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I get letters on a daily basis of people that have changed their life because

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they've applied the principles.

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So take the time to go in there and let's set realistic expectations.

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Come to the ±Breakthrough Experience.

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Let me show you how to dissolve the baggage,

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clarify your mission and vision and your highest values,

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set realistic objectives, not fantasies, polarizations,

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not looking for a one-sided magnet.

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And let's get grounded because the magnificence of that is far greater than

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those fantasies you keep imposing yourself. If you

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don't want to self depreciate, you don't want to have depression,

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come to the Breakthrough Experience.

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Let me show you how to take command of your life and instead of being

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ungrateful for your life, you'll be able to be grateful.

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Anything you can say thank you for is baggage.

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Anything you can say thank you for is fuel.

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I'd like to come and help you fuel your life and go do something amazing in your

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life. So go and sign up for the Breakthrough Experience

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26 hours together and I'm going to show you some amazing information that I

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assure you will help and make a difference. You'll

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right there in the program you'll see and feel the difference.

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So it's not something that's going to someday happen,

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it's right there you get to experience the result and learn how to do the tools.

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So I look forward to seeing you on the next round next week.

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Thank you for joining me for this presentation and

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Experience.

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That's where I can sit down personally and help you transform your life.

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