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Yo! Welcome to hip hop movie club

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where three old heads

put their old heads together to vibe on

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some of the most memorable or forgettable

hip hop themed movies of all time.

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And here's HHMC with your HH MCs Boogie.

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JB. Oh yeah, and DynoWright.

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Bring it.

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Come on. Season five, episode three.

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Eight mile.

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That adds up.

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It's nice.

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Written by Scott Silver

and directed by Curtis Hanson

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and produced by Curtis Hanson,

Brian Grazer and Jimmy Iovine.

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Released in 2002 and featuring

Eminem, Mekhi Phifer,

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Brittany Murphy,

Kim Basinger and Anthony Mackie.

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We'll answer the question will B-Rabbit

take his one shot, his one opportunity

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to seize everything

you ever wanted to one moment.

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Set in the gritty urban

backdrop of Detroit.

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Eight mile

is a semi-autobiographical tale of rap

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icon Eminem,

whose characters Jimmy B Rabbit Smith,

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his early struggles

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against

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great odds, the cocky young white dude

living in the trailer

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park with his downtrodden

mom and toddler sister.

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The rabbit struggles

in finding his way in his voice and faces

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formidable foes

and the leaders of the Free World crew.

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Right.

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One more. One.

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One one and,

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So eight mile.

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This is classic film.

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Eminem, as we know,

has gone on to become a legend.

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What are some of the key points Boogie,

that you take away from from eight mile?

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Yeah I really I really enjoy eight mile.

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I'm an Eminem fan.

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You know, I like what he,

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what he's brought to the table

with his, his lyricism and his energy.

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So watching emo, for me, it's it's

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autobiographical movie for him,

but it's a very entertaining.

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And I do see some of the parallels

between the movie and his actual life

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coming up in the underground

and having to make a name for himself

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despite being a white rapper

in a predominantly black area

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and trying to gain the respect of everyone

and prove that, hey, listen,

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I got what it takes to to go toe to toe

with the heavyweights in the area.

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So it's an underdog story.

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You know, it says,

and I and I love underdog stories and

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he's a character like you kind of you root

from good form from the beginning

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because you see what he has to deal with

in the beginning because he's

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automatically nervous and he's he's

doesn't want to go out and perform.

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So you want to see where this character

is going to go.

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And you eventually do want to see him

make it to the to the stage in battle,

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which is where he was trying to do

in the beginning of the film.

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Do you have crews, that hero people?

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You know, there's the three world crew,

and they're pretty much like,

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you know, bullies to anyone who

who wants to to make

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a make a name

for themselves in the Detroit scene.

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So you don't like them and you know that

they're picking on him from the beginning.

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So it's a it's like I said,

you want to root for him.

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You want you want to see him succeed.

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You want to see him overcome

when he's dealing with you, you know, he's

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or, you know, single mom

reasonable for that.

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I mean, she's not all there.

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You know, she's dealing with it.

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Did you know Debbie? Boyfriend

who's not all there.

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And you want him to

to get the best out of things.

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So you follow him along the journey and,

you know,

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it all comes to a head at the end, and,

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you know, you cheer for him,

you're like, yeah, he did it, you know?

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So so it's it's one of those movies

where I always enjoy watching

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that, that, that overcome

overcoming those obstacles,

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and making it on that stage because

like I said, that's how he became famous.

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He became famous from battle rapping.

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And that's where we really how he made

a name for himself before getting inside.

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So yeah, it's it's a great movie.

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I highly, highly entertaining

and I highly recommend it.

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Dan alright, you want to

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add anything about your, you know,

initial impressions of the movie as well?

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Sure.

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I thought Eminem was really good

as an actor. Yes.

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You know, some people can't pull this off,

but you know,

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he's an elite performer

and so he can do this well, too.

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And he really plays a hero's journey.

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Well, you see him in his humble beginnings

and and adversity

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in the beginning,

choking in the at the shelter.

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But, you know, you get to see

his progression to recovering from that.

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And I think he played it really well.

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And, yeah, I really enjoyed this movie.

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I don't know, and I mean,

it was discography from front to back.

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Like I heard a lot of songs, but I didn't

really get into like, his album so much.

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And so I really enjoyed this aspect of his

and stuff, so really great.

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And yeah, there's a grittiness to this.

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And the portrayal was was very well done.

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You see a lot of East Coast story,

you see West Coast

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and now we're, you know, in the heartland

or, you know, Midwest, Detroit.

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And you

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see, you know, a lot of folks, Detroit's

economy is

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historically been based, you know, auto

industry and factories and whatnot.

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And B rabbit work that the new Detroit

stamping factory.

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You remember when Eminem

first burst on the scene in real life,

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like in the late 90s

when you first heard him

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and he had this unique sound,

almost a little bit nasally

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and spitting fast, but also just kind of

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insulting everybody in his path.

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And you're like, what's up with this guy?

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Like,

why is he ripping on Pamela Anderson?

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And and saying, like,

why are you so angry?

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And this kind of gives you a glimpse

into what he had to deal with, right?

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He just comes from very little means,

like you said, his mother's really

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downtrodden.

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You know,

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not a great mother,

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and he's getting picked on and bullied,

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and he wants to be in this industry,

that he's an outsider.

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So you can kind of tell,

where does that anger come from?

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You can see it through this lens for sure.

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Absolutely.

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And I think from years

of being pushed around,

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he got to the point where he strikes

first.

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He doesn't give you a chance to

to get him.

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He's going to get you first.

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Right.

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I had a I had a different impression

of like at least from this first single.

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Right.

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My name is.

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Yeah.

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And but who is this guy

who sounds like Snoop Dogg?

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And when put together, like,

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I thought of it throughout that, that's

what's so funny to me.

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It's like, yeah,

but this isn't a Snoop Dogg song.

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Like a little there's more humor in

it to me and it's like, wow,

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this is really good.

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Who is this guy?

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He also fun fact

is that he goes by the moniker Slim Shady,

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as we all know, but that phrase

is not mentioned at all in the movie,

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right?

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It's interesting.

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Semi-autobiographical, exactly similar.

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To me, but I think.

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The cast around him in this movie really

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did a great job.

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Brittany Murphy I've always loved her.

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Yeah. She was. Terrific in. This. Yeah.

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With Klute from clueless,

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her days in clueless when she was the nerd

that they kind of spruced up, and

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I was kind of,

like, always sad to see her on stage

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be, you know, on the screen

because she died at such a young age.

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Oh, it's very bittersweet, you know?

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Yeah, it's always very bittersweet.

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Just kind of like

when you see Heath ledger

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and some of the younger, younger

actors and actresses that have gone in.

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But she was very charismatic

and enigmatic.

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She's always that perfect combination

of charismatic and enigmatic who was like,

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yeah, okay, but yeah, you really like her.

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Yeah.

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And you know, that is rabbit's

love interest in that in the movie.

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And they share a lot in common.

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She left home at 17 and he's, you know,

mostly on his own in a wayward state.

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And she's looking to break out

to the big city, New York City,

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to pursue a modeling career

and kind of make a book

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with the other cast is great, too.

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Anthony Mackie,

who's this megastar now in the MCU?

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Has Falcon,

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Falcon in Winter soldier and, you know,

the new Captain America and whatnot.

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He he has a big role as Papa Doc of.

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A duck.

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The leader of the,

leaders of the Free World crew.

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And he's got a nasty in there.

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And that's his role. Yeah.

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Rabbit beats the Falcon.

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But then it also

the other parts of the ensemble.

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Kim Basinger does a great convincing job

of playing the trashy mother.

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She plays that really well.

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Absolutely. Very good. Yeah.

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And cheddar Bob is my man.

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That Bob

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better, Bob better.

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Bob is like the.

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You know, I don't want to be insulting,

but kind of like, dimwitted,

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unintelligent, but funny, but super loyal.

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Friend of.

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Yeah. Of rabbit in the crew.

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And he has that

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very memorable

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scene where, you know,

there's a feud breaking,

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breaking out between their crew

and the Free World crew.

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And he has this gun, his mother's gun,

and he accidentally shoot himself

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in the leg.

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He goes full, Plaxico Burress.

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Plaxico Burress.

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Yeah, yeah, I forgot about that.

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Oh, no, this is seriously.

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Now, here's

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the thing with this,

you know, and he's bleeding profusely.

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And, you know,

they take him out driving to the hospital.

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And even during that hospital scene where

he's driving, he's just like blurts out

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Mick, Bob.

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And like, they're like,

what are you talking about, Mick?

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Cheddar? Bob? He's wondering

what his rap name is supposed to.

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Be, because.

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He wanted rabbit to teach him

how to write.

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Rhymes. That was a good scene.

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And, as D.J.

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is our eyes,

I couldn't remember what it was, but,

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But he was very enlightened,

and it reminded me of Sharif.

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From Menace to Society and another film

I can't remember now, but there's

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another type of character who was like

the conscience of this crew. Yes.

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Yeah, like preach, like preacher.

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That's it. Yeah.

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Preacher. Yeah.

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Exactly. Yeah. That's right.

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That's the same role.

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And they make fun of that in the don't

be a minister.

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Yes. Yeah,

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yeah.

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And they have

Michael Phifer playing future

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who I guess that that's a parallel

to, to Eminem's actual film.

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Proof.

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Yes. Right.

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Real late proof

who passed away from the crew.

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But yeah, he was,

you know, McCaffrey's McCaffrey.

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So he's going to give you what he got.

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And I

take it every time because he's great.

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Yeah yeah.

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He's great.

He's got the dreads in this one.

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And normally

he doesn't have a longer hair.

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So is it

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is cool to see him as a.

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You know convincing

you know trying to convince Brad Pitt to,

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to take his shot

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and it's just kind of sticking through him

even when, you know B rabbit

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has doubts and that kind of turns on him

a little bit.

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You know, when he goes to apologize,

the man at the end, he was like,

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yeah, you know, it's all good.

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You know, up here

I never, you know, I never left

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them. I'm here.

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And he convinces him me to go out there

and, and, do his thing.

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But yeah, he, he was a very loyal,

loyal friend to, b rabbit,

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you know,

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I mean, at first I was like,

yeah, that's definitely proof right there.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, he's based on him.

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I meant to go

look and see like any of the other D12

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like like characters

portrayed in this movie.

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I didn't really look.

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I'm thinking Bizarro is,

I can't think is who is his name?

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An eight mile big guy,

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kind of.

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Saul.

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Yeah.

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Well,

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I know Eminem's friend Obie Trice,

who's on some of his records.

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He was in this film also.

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Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

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At the end of the battle.

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And did you catch exhibit?

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Was that the he he was the. Yeah.

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The lunch truck rapper that he did.

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And exhibit was in there.

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Here?

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Yeah.

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Exhibit was ripping on everybody.

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Instagram came and ripped on him.

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It's like he was like, it is Ryan pimps.

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Nope.

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It's good to see exhibit two, man.

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He's a he's a good kid. He's

a good kid. He's a good dude too.

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So he got a nice little part in there.

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Yeah.

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And there was a character of wink,

and he was shady.

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He was putting up with B rabbit and crew

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and trying

to promote them into the shelter,

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you know, rap battle.

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But he was also playing

the other side too.

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And he was hanging with the

The Free World crew.

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And then during the battle, wasn't I think

he actually ended up kicking P rabbit.

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Right.

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The catch that that was when he got jumped

after they jumped him.

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Yeah.

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After he got after he.

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Said after and yeah after he had a wink.

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His is.

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But in this radio station,

the radio station

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room upstairs,

he can call the funeral crew.

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And he ran out on B rabbit

outside of his trailer.

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Yeah. That was yeah.

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And that was tough to see

because there was Lilly,

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b rabbits, you know, very much

younger sister who was only like a toddler

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and B rather had removed her from the home

because his mom was drunk and

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took her next door.

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That's at the point where he's like,

go inside, go inside.

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Because the crew had pulled up

and she just sadly, she got to see her

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brother get beat to a pulp by that crew

and she was shouting, Jimmy!

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Yeah, but they, they spared his life.

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They had a gun to his head,

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but they just wanted to really intimidate

him, beat him up.

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But I think that really spurred him

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on and inspired him to

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finish writing and

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and then battle that final battle scene.

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Right.

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Spirit of rabbit.

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The rabbit's coming for you.

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And, he came for the whole

crew one by one.

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Speaking of which,

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You guys know that?

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I didn't know that, Lunar.

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New Year, and I'm a rabbit, actually.

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So, Need to know. There you go.

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Maybe put. Things

ahead. Hopefully we'll see.

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They built up a lot of drama in here.

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I see, like, almost every time

that the rabbit takes them, like,

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there's this long pause and it ends

is built in the very beginning scene,

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which actually inspires the lyrics

to lose yourself, which we'll get to.

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You know, he in that very opening scene,

he literally does

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throw up on his sweatshirt.

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So that's part of the lyrics.

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It's vomit on the sweater already.

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Mom. Spaghetti.

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But there's that long pause.

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And then almost every time he's actually

doing rap out, this is long pause.

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And you're you're almost holding your

breath like, is he going to choke again?

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Because the crowd starts

to egg them on a little bit.

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And then he does kind of start,

start flowing.

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And the amazing Joe.

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What's he confronts

lickety split in that battle,

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he gains his footing because now

the crowd kind of is kind of cheering him

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on a little bit because they're like,

oh, this guy really got a flow about them.

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I think he gains his footing

in that moment and say, okay,

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he broke the ice.

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Yeah, I think the challengers got

a little harder and harder in procession.

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It's just like you're moving up the ranks

in the heavyweight championship

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and then the next one is verse Lotto.

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And Lotto did a really nice job.

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And it was really, even with the amount

of applause and cheering

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from the crowd, he the one that hit that

Leave It to Beaver reference.

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And I think rabbit says to, future's

like, hey man, he almost got me with that.

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Leave It to Beaver.

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Kind of. Flipped it back on him. Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Ward, I think you're a little hard

on the Beaver.

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That's good.

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So good.

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And I like the way he ended

that bad attitude in my model was,

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oh, I get the dollar for me

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to get the, oh, man, who is.

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Finish him.

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Fell apart.

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Finish him.

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I get the. Dollar from. Your mother.

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I think I used to know that whole part.

That whole song.

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About getting seven numbers

for a dollar for.

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Tomorrow. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,

because his name was Lotto.

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That was.

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That was nice.

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From the mother.

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Tomorrow.

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Oh, man.

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And then the final battles was Papa Doc,

Anthony Mackie's character.

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And there's a beautiful symmetry

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in the movie where as be

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rabbit choked and really couldn't

perform at all in the beginning.

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So he lost the battle, was booed off stage

like the song says,

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and he just left him full, you know,

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in shame,

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whereas he is so more polished

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now in his strategy was really hype up

the crowd.

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He's got the crowd going, you know,

wave your hands for the three one, three.

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And he's really kind of

just spilling his guts

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saying almost like being self-deprecating,

saying, listen, I am a bum.

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I'm, I'm white.

I live in a trailer. I'm up.

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He's even said that my girl

slept with wink because that was it.

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Yeah.

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He's a like laying it all out there.

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Whatever.

But he makes it right, makes rhymes.

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So it's like,

what else more can you say about me?

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And then he starts dissing, Papa Doc

for having gone to private school is

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real name is Clarence and all this stuff,

and it just throws in the mic.

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What else

you know about me? And it was kind of like

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all right, that mic drop moment,

he didn't actually drop them, like.

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But he kind of just kind of throw in.

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It was like all right,

what more can you say after that?

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But I know something about you

with the Cranbrook.

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That's a private. School.

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Did his homework.

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I noticed that like a lot of these days,

he did his homework on these guys.

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You know,

who you're going to compete against.

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And that was smart.

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He really turned his vulnerability

into invincibility.

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And he was so good

that Papa Doc couldn't even

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couldn't even say anything.

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But I think that that epiphany came to him

because cheddar Bob

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kind of said, hey, you know,

are you worried that they're going to talk

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about what he's going to say about you?

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And then he was like,

oh, shoot, and shut up.

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Bob was just kind of like,

you know, spinning, like you

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spinning like, yeah, you know, you she's

going to say all these things about you.

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And he's like, wait a minute.

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He might say this.

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I could beat him to the punch.

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Yeah.

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You know, and I guess Papa Doc,

you know, trying to,

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you know, try to hold his cards

and tell him to put his cards.

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I say, you know, let him go first.

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Because he's gonna. Choke.

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He didn't choke.

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It. That's always. Gonna be.

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That's a good point, cheddar Bob.

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As kind of dimwitted as he was, he did.

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He did come up with that statement.

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And he he is a source of,

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some strength for for rabbit.

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Remember, he's

the one that says like, f the free world.

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And then he kind of start the whole feud

and everything.

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It's like, man,

what are you talking about?

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The good point there.

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And yeah, about going first

they would do heads or tails.

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They would get

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I think it

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was just 45 seconds

normally to do the wrap.

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And the final round was the 92nd.

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But just like in a lot of sports,

you can choose.

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Maybe you choose a defer or whatever,

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which team goes first

or like an NFL overtime.

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A lot of times you want to go second

because then you know what you need to do.

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Do I need to get a field goal or to tie,

or do I need to get a touchdown?

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So in most cases they were going

you would opt to go second,

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because that way you can kind of

turn the words on.

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In this last case,

the final battle was Papa Doc,

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like you said, he have a doc said,

you know, you go first.

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So he really had to go all out.

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You can't hold back at all

when you going first.

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You don't want to give them any ammunition

at all.

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So he just kind of.

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Checked off all of the punchlines.

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Yeah he did.

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He emptied it all out.

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Rendered him speechless.

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Yeah.

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Literally. Yeah.

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It made me beat the beat

and he still kept going.

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I don't need to beat.

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Hey, you know you're winning

when you don't even need the.

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Yeah. He says, you know what I mean?

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I think to it in that last statement

he said, you know what?

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I don't even care

what y'all think about me

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because I didn't already prove myself.

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So it is what it is.

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This is who I am, like me,

and not tell them something

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they don't already know

because I told him everything.

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Yeah. Very disarming.

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Stole all of your punchlines.

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What are you going to say now?

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What are you going to rap about off

the top of your head?

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Yeah.

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It was funny when the very first was.

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It was. It was lickety split.

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Or was it a different rap battle

where he actually moon the guy?

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Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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That was, Yeah, I know,

I think that was the key.

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That was lickety the.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, that was funny.

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If you want to smile and welcome,

we had of course, the eight mile.

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That was good.

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Okay.

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But yeah, the river.

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He really got on for clearance, though.

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Truth.

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But it was funny because the funny

how he actually figured out

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his name was when he was hanging out

with the girls,

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and, and he said, oh, you know, Papa Doc

something said, oh, Clarence.

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Yeah. Oh, he. Went to school.

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My sister or brother

or something like that in there.

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Okay.

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And he wasn't

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even a part of the conversation,

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but he just registered in the back of the

file to stand back.

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There.

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Yeah.

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Why is this. Just a funny name for me?

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It reminds me, actually, of Beastie Boys.

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Hey, ladies. Oh, yeah.

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There's a. Line.

Where where? It was just ridiculous.

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Someone I forget who says it might even be

someone outside the 3 to 3 main guys.

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It's like, is your name Michael Diamond?

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No, mine's Clarence.

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It just gets me every time.

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But then Drake cast it.

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The guy who played Greg,

who was the deadbeat boyfriend,

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Michael Shannon,

he's gone on to so much bigger and better.

490

What a great career. Yeah.

491

You wouldn't think.

492

He's a phenomenal actor.

He's so good. Oof!

493

So good.

494

Yeah, I've seen him.

I've seen him and some stuff.

495

And he's really, really good.

496

Even he was even good in this.

497

He was great in this.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

498

He was great.

499

And ironically in real well,

they were joking in the movie

500

that he went to the same school,

so he was almost around the same age,

501

which made it even that more awkward for,

for rabbit that he's with the mother.

502

But in real life,

he's, he's a couple years younger than

503

than Eminem.

504

Yeah.

505

He's something like 48 and Eminem

just turned 50 this year.

506

And Taryn Manning plays Janine, who was,

the rabbit's ex-girlfriend.

507

She was in Hustle and Flow

and a lot of a lot of things as well.

508

Yeah. It's a great cast.

509

Absolutely.

510

I enjoyed Michael Shannon and, Knives Out.

511

You guys see Knives Out?

512

I haven't seen it yet.

513

I guess I'll haven't seen it.

514

Oh, man.

515

He's he plays the son of the,

the the writer.

516

It's very good, very good.

517

And everything.

518

Yeah.

519

And eight mile, directed by Curtis Hanson,

who also did L.A.

520

confidential. You guys see that movie?

521

I had not.

522

Oh, it's a great movie.

523

1997, one of my favorites in that year.

524

And Kim Basinger was also in this movie.

525

She plays the. Lead.

526

I remember that

it was critically acclaimed. Yeah.

527

And he also did Wonder Boys.

528

If you ever seen that with Michael

Douglas.

529

Tobey Maguire, terrific movie.

530

Yeah, his range is great,

but he passed away a few years

531

back in 2016,

so maybe one of his last movies.

532

I have one question for you guys.

533

If you picked up on this rabbit's

crew goes and burns down an abandoned home

534

because that was a scene of,

a rape of a young girl,

535

and they thought it as a symbol

that they wanted to destroy.

536

And yeah,

I understand where they're coming from.

537

Well, during that scene of B, rabbit

538

finds a photo of a family like a

539

Polaroid.

540

I don't know if there's

any significance to that.

541

Or was he just like saying, wow,

this used to be an actual home

542

or was he just long

for like a traditional nuclear family?

543

I don't know,

544

I didn't I was

545

having trouble

like seeing the significance of that.

546

I wasn't sure what

547

that was like you,

but I think it was supposed to symbolize,

548

a more stable family or like,

here's a home that this should have.

549

This was a home. Yes.

550

But it right by the disrepair

became an attractive nuisance,

551

which is an actual thing.

552

Attractive nuisance.

553

Destructive nuisance. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

554

But, yeah, I, I picked up on that, too.

555

Yeah.

556

It was like, it was kind of like,

kind of thought, like.

557

Yeah, man, this was a,

this was once a home of love.

558

And like, things fall apart

and this is what it's become.

559

Yeah.

560

Because they were saying, you know,

if there was no abandoned home,

561

then this guy wouldn't have been able

to rape the girl.

562

And so let's destroy this,

destroy this area and it was symbolic.

563

But you're right.

564

I think

Robert made some sort of suggestion that

565

he either wished he had a home with that,

or it used to have substance up

566

to that effect

when he was talking to Alex.

567

Right.

568

To break to.

569

Anything else that you guys

570

kind of questioned or or,

you know, disliked or not the film?

571

I mean, one thing that I see

as a common theme, and I guess this comes

572

with the machismo and bravado, is, again,

there's this homophobia in it.

573

Yeah.

574

Yeah, the rabbit does befriend

the one gay man at his job.

575

Yeah, there's.

576

Still a lot of homophobia in his lyrics

577

and a lot of the the back and forth.

578

Yeah. And the rap battles and stuff.

579

Yeah.

580

I guess even in 1995,

we weren't we weren't that evolved yet.

581

Right?

582

Yeah.

583

And that was the one guy who actually,

584

you know, he actually

585

saved the day in a sense,

if you think about it, because

586

he held down the rabbit shift while he ran

off to to go compete in battle.

587

Exactly.

588

Yeah.

589

I was wondering how

that was going to play out,

590

because you see a building up like,

he finally is doing better at work,

591

and he's earning

the trust of his boss, Manny.

592

And he's like, hey,

like, can you. Someone's out sick tonight.

593

Could you cover two?

Sure. I'll cover our cover.

594

And we know that's the same night

as right away.

595

He can't do it. Yeah.

596

For real?

597

Exactly.

598

Yeah.

599

No more privileges,

no more shift offerings.

600

And you can't be alone on that. Oh.

601

The one thing that I didn't quite sit

well or I didn't quite get

602

was I thought there'd be bigger

beef after between Alex and Jimmy.

603

After Jimmy caught the, in coitus and I.

604

They're not mad

or neither of them are mad, but it's.

605

I don't know, maybe.

606

I think Jimmy understood, like, okay,

this is sort of like what the game is.

607

And so he wasn't that mad.

608

But I think anyone would have been like,

if she comes to the plant

609

and they have a a very civil conversation.

610

And I thought, that's not how

I thought it was going to go.

611

Where did he.

612

Actually catch her?

Or was it mostly hearsay?

613

Like, I didn't know if he caught

wink with her or.

614

Like, oh, he did.

615

Oh yeah, that did.

616

Okay. I missed that.

617

Very, very much. Did okay.

618

He caught. Yeah.

619

He caught the meat act I gotcha.

620

Yeah but it is interruptus.

621

Yeah.

622

Beat week to a pulp a weeks.

623

Pants were half down.

624

And it precipitated his beat down

in front of Lily later.

625

I gotcha.

626

Yeah, yeah, I miss

I missed a misstep. Okay.

627

And you see it in the in the

in the background.

628

The next studio over do you mean.

629

Well, this so fisticuffs

going on in the next,

630

next to it, you're going to see it.

631

That made me laugh.

632

It kind of been a funny little twist on a

a serious situation, but

633

still I was like,

634

I would think Jimmy

635

be more mad,

but I guess he's a bigger fish to fry.

636

In that case.

637

I don't think he was as mad at her

638

because she wasn't really his girlfriend.

639

Yeah.

640

There's that.

641

There's a moment.

I wink for for for crossing the.

642

Line. Yeah, that that was.

643

You knew that I was interested in her.

644

You stepped on my toes and.

645

Yeah, you were supposed to do

that was her.

646

She was like, you know what? She's.

647

You know, he's not really my girl.

648

You know, we.

649

Yeah, we've had interesting we've we,

you know, fooled around a bit,

650

but we don't necessarily

have a relationship.

651

Relationship.

652

Yeah. Yeah.

653

The, the title or anything on it. Right.

654

Is it kind of like, hey

I see you in passing and I like you, but,

655

you know, we're not really together, but,

you know, in the sense of,

656

you know,

the crew still supposed to be off limits.

657

So the crew, you know, still supposed

to, you know, all of that

658

and just not even bother to wink violated

that that that aspect.

659

Yeah. And got violated in the process.

660

Yeah.

661

I was looking up some other like facts

about eight mile

662

because I know a lot

that happened around the filming.

663

And Brittany Murphy,

who plays Alex, actually

664

was romantically involved

with Eminem during the production.

665

She admitted that in an interview

with David Letterman back in

666

in the early 90s, as she was

667

fresh and there was rumors that,

668

Eminem was actually hitting on Kim

Bassinger during the filming as well.

669

Oh boy.

670

Oh boy, I don't know.

671

You know, they're not dying.

672

Anything happened. But.

673

Also be remiss

if we didn't mention Eight Mile for

674

those that are unaware, is an actual road

in Detroit, Eight Mile Road.

675

And it's kind of

like a line of demarcation and a color

676

barrier of sorts

for different portions of of the city.

677

Yeah, yeah.

678

The more affluent white

neighborhoods are north of Eight mile,

679

and the urban neighborhoods

are south of eight mile.

680

And the J Dilla book, has a really good

681

breakdown

of the whole geography of Detroit.

682

And, I recommend going through that

683

for more color

about the eight mile situation.

684

Yeah.

685

The song Lose Yourself was recorded

specifically for the movie,

686

and it was the first rap song to win

the Academy Award for Best Original Song,

687

which it did in 2003.

688

Yeah, I mean, that's become an anthem for

oh yeah, like

689

like kind of like a hip hop anthem.

690

Yeah.

691

It starts off real slow,

kind of like the piano melody.

692

And in it, it kind of like it's all about

693

not missing out on your,

your one shot, your one opportunity.

694

Yeah. In fact.

695

And go ahead to it.

696

And listen to it on the way it came

on, I think it was yesterday.

697

It was one of the day.

698

Yeah.

699

Yesterday I was like, wow,

this is, my song right here.

700

Yeah.

I love this song. It's a great. Song.

701

I heard that song every Saturday

at Martial Arts because my

702

sifu would play that

703

because we used to train to music

and like, that was a favorite song.

704

So I heard it every Saturday.

705

I didn't need to listen anywhere.

706

Eminem songs after that.

707

Every Saturday night without fail.

708

Lose yourself.

709

As I was talking one.

710

Some special and unique about the like.

711

I think the cadence to me is unique,

where it's a little like

712

the staccato or choppiness is like

the clock comes up over.

713

But back to reality.

714

Oh, because gravity. Oh, that goes rabbit,

he choked.

715

He's so mad that, you know,

I really love how that flows.

716

It's something that is it seems unique

and I've never really heard

717

that kind of flow,

the way it breaks up like that.

718

And it kind of builds to a crescendo.

719

Yeah, he's a musical genius.

720

Yeah.

721

And the famous line in the beginning,

there's vomit on a sweater already.

722

Mom's spaghetti.

723

And you guys have seen that.

724

I believe Eminem has a chain

of restaurants called Mom's Spaghetti.

725

Yes. That he started, like, in the past

couple years.

726

Yeah.

727

I haven't been to

what are they in the Detroit area?

728

I think so. Yes.

729

I was watching the Hard Knocks on HBO.

730

They were doing the Detroit Lions

in the offseason in the training camp,

731

and Eminem made an appearance

because that's his team, obviously.

732

And he catered the one practice.

733

Session oh nice mama.

734

Spaghetti. And I was like,

oh, there it is.

735

Yeah.

736

I remember

when they had the grand opening,

737

he popped up at the at the restaurant

at the grand opening was actually,

738

you know,

serving people. I was like, Holy crap.

739

At Detroit, Bon bon, Jon Bon Jovi.

740

Yeah.

741

Serving people. Sure.

742

But he looks so tiny

next to those football players, obviously.

743

I mean, I don't know what his stature is,

but he's not a big guy.

744

And actually, I heard that

he for this movie, he he lost 24 pounds.

745

So he was kind of no,

746

he's always been kind of thin in my eyes,

but he was almost like real thin.

747

And in this movie.

748

He had to be more,

749

period accurate for that.

750

I guess he didn't have to drop down

751

Yeah, right.

752

And be able to do that.

753

I don't know how I could.

754

This.

755

I could do it. Yep.

756

Another interesting tidbit I've found

is that the role of cheddar Bob,

757

both Seth Rogen

and Jason Segel auditioned for that role.

758

That's kind of the genre.

759

It feels like that's the type of actor

they.

760

Yeah, exactly.

761

But I think they were joking

around the whole time

762

and they were goofing off,

and they didn't.

763

They're good friends in real life.

764

Seth Rogen and Jason Segel,

and they didn't get it.

765

And they're like, years later,

they're like, it went to some other guy.

766

And he was really good, and he did

a much better job than we would have,

767

which was Evan Jones.

768

I feel like those two guys, even, I guess

then they weren't as big as they are now.

769

But yeah, you're right.

770

Two. But

771

that would happen

if there's like a gravitational pull.

772

The big actors like Makai Phifer

and Kim Basinger.

773

But imagine those two guys, one of those

two guys in that role was kind of funny.

774

Oh. I actually watched this on DVD.

775

I had purchased it at a flea market

a while back, so I knew

776

that we'd be covering it for real cheap,

777

and it had some extra

778

special features,

and I was able to watch a couple of them.

779

What was neat

is they talked about rap battles

780

and how intense they are in,

781

like we were saying, Eminem.

782

I grew up doing this and he would be

so devastated if he were to lose one.

783

So in this scene,

like the final rap battle scene,

784

you see there's a big mob of people

there, like 300 folks,

785

and they all have their winter coats

and park is on

786

and there's been this kind of warehouse

type facility.

787

They were there for like 12 to 14 hours

a day for like 3 or 4 consecutive days.

788

And they were getting a

little antsy here and there.

789

So the director, Curtis Hanson,

had this great idea.

790

He saw that like in between cuts,

791

other little rap

battles were breaking out.

792

So he actually set up a rap

battle tournament amongst the extras.

793

He said, whoever wants to sign up

and show off their skills,

794

and it was like 130 for them signed up.

795

They thought that they could be an MC,

so he would give them only like 15 seconds

796

and they would, you know, both, Hanson

and Eminem's manager and, you know,

797

there were a couple judges

and they would kind of jot it down

798

and they whittled them down to like 20.

799

Then they did a little bracket tournament

800

and the Final four

got to go up against Eminem.

801

Like head to head. Nice. Cool. Well

802

imagine that.

803

It's like in in the ring with Tyson.

804

I know I wouldn't. Want to do that.

805

Yeah.

806

They didn't

want to wear out Eminem's voice,

807

so he actually pantomimed to his stuff.

808

And then when he got to the final four,

they were kind of really

809

blasting him an insult again,

because that's what it is.

810

It's a verbal tirade.

811

He's like, I can't do this anymore.

812

So he actually got on the bike and he just

ripped them and he was like, no contest.

813

But that was kind of cool.

814

And these guys were married in forever.

815

On film here because they're in this

special scene here.

816

Oh, that was a good idea.

817

Yeah, that sounds really cool.

818

I wonder what happened to this.

819

If this was final for finalists.

820

Yeah.

821

Where are they now.

822

Exactly? Eight mile.

823

Final finalists.

824

There was one woman, but he tore apart.

825

And was merciless on the mic.

826

You know, you don't mess with him.

827

Yeah, that's like getting into the ring

with Mike Tyson.

828

That's.

829

It's exactly even playing Gary Kasparov.

830

Chess. Like.

831

Yeah.

832

It was like, not for me.

833

Like me.

834

Me trying to take LeBron one on one.

835

Yeah.

836

So what do you guys think?

837

Did you enjoy the music overall

in the film.

838

Absolutely.

839

Obviously the star was shook

once. Part two.

840

Oh I was in I was already in.

841

The I mean this is like pretty much

my favorite

842

era of hip hop, hip hop from the late 80s

into the mid 90s.

843

Like that's my

844

sweet spot in my heyday.

845

So like even the non Eminem tracks

I heard, like

846

I heard insane in the Membrane

by Cypress Hill, I heard some biggie,

847

I heard Naughty by Nature.

848

Pharcyde was, yeah, every song.

849

I was like, yes,

I remember, this is great, this is great.

850

Very much enjoying the music.

851

Yeah, music is classic. Oh,

852

and this was a box office smash.

853

Budget was 41 million

and it made 243 million

854

in the box office.

855

It was one of the most sought after DVDs

856

when it was released of all time.

857

I remember when it came out and I was,

858

working retail and, BestBuy.

859

Yeah, it was

it was flying off the shelves.

860

We just passed the 20th anniversary.

861

It was released November 8th, 2002. Oh.

862

No. No. No,

863

the Universal Pictures put it out.

864

Had a lot of backing.

865

I don't think I need to be made again.

Made today.

866

There's no. This is a.

867

It was the first time.

868

It's kind of like a icon

869

origin story

or a superhero origin story, right?

870

Yeah. Really.

871

You got Anthony Mackie

and it's like a superhero story.

872

That's true. Yeah.

873

Right.

874

Three.

875

Three. Three. Three. Three.

876

Six. Big.

877

So we'll go around,

give us give our ratings.

878

On the film.

879

So boogie bring that funky flick back.

880

Bring that funky flip

back or leave it in the vault.

881

Oh man.

882

Bring that funky flick back.

883

Yeah. To down. All right.

884

Bring that funky flick back.

885

Of course.

886

Bring that funky flick. Back

887

right on. Okay. It's a classic.

888

Yeah.

889

Yeah.

890

Bring it.

891

Come on.

892

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893

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