This is the first of two very special episodes that we’re doing in back-to-back weeks, instead of our usual bi-weekly schedule.

In January 2024, Karl and Shelley Vaters were honored by their home church as they ended 31 years on the pastoral staff—25 years as lead pastor, six years as teaching pastor. This, and the next episode of The Church Lobby are taken from that Sunday service.

This episode features an on-stage interview in which Gary Garcia (the current lead pastor), asks Karl about their time at Cornerstone. It’s a helpful look at the value of longevity for the pastor and the church and some insights into how they were able to navigate a healthy pastoral transition.

Be sure to stick around after the interview for some of Karl's important takeways for people in ministry.

You can watch the entire service on the CornerstoneFV YouTube channel, here.

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