Behind The Show is part of Podcasting People.
Host: Gareth Davies
Guest: Also Gareth Davies 🧐
In this episode, Podcasting People producer Gareth Davies talks a bit about his background and the tools he uses to make podcasts.
Links
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Hardware
RØDE PSA1 Swivel Mount Studio Microphone Boom Arm
Software
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Produced by https://bio.link/garethsounds at https://www.thesoundboutique.com.
Mentioned in this episode:
Hello podcasting people and welcome
to Behind the Show where I chat to you
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:podcasters to find out more about you and
what you're using to make your podcasts.
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:I'm Gareth and this community is
something I've built for all of us.
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:I'm not going to try and sell courses, I'm
not going to tell you what you should or
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:shouldn't be doing with your own shows.
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:To me the word community
is about all of us.
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:As much as I want to get to know
you and your podcasts and hopefully
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:give you some tips via my shows and
other posts, I want you to be there
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:for each other because that is what
community means in my humble opinion.
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:So here we are, on the
very first Behind the Show.
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:I thought it would be a fun idea to do
a kind of show and tell podcast, the
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:behind the scenes where we get to know
more about the people who make the shows,
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:sharing what tools we're using to get
a podcast made and published, and the
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:experiences guests have with these tools.
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:Uh, and as this is the first episode,
I thought I would share my background
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:with you and some of the hardware and
software I use to make podcasting people.
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:This show, uh, a couple of other
shows, and other client podcasts
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:I'm involved in helping out on.
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:Whether it's fixing audio or
editing dialogue or other things.
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:Right then, are we ready to get into it?
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:Let's call this section.
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:It's all about you.
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:Hello, me again.
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:So in this section of Behind the Show,
I'll usually have a guest to chat with.
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:But like I say, as it's the
first one, I thought I'd properly
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:introduce myself and what I do.
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:After this, I won't be
talking much about me.
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:In fact, that's my mantra in podcasting.
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:It's not about me.
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:And I reckon that's a good way to
think when devising guest interviews.
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:So this feels a little
bit counter to that.
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:Anyway, so, uh, I live in Shepperton
in the UK, which you may have heard
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:of because of the famous studios,
uh, with my wife, Dani, and our
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:little Jack Russell Flash Gordon,
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:Who is happily snoozing under
my studio desk as I record this.
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:Up until 2011, I was a primary
school teacher, which was pretty
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:intense, but very rewarding.
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:Um, I've been a musician and songwriter
all my life, and so, uh, coinciding with
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:the house move, I took a leap of faith and
became a professional composer for media.
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:I was lucky enough around a year later
to write the music for an animated
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:series for TV which kick started
a career in writing music for TV.
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:I'll pop a link in the show notes
to my composer page if you want
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:to read and listen to more of my
work on the music side further.
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:Uh, then in 2019, I started a
podcast with a friend and we wrote
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:an imagined drama soundtrack and
podcasted along the way, which was
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:really fun, but very, very terrifying.
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:We had guests on from all sorts of
roles in TV and film production.
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:And we ended up doing two
limited seasons of that show.
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:And then in lockdown, I created and
produced a show called Creative Cuppa,
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:which was, it was my window to the
outside world during the pandemic.
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:And I loved chatting with people
doing creative jobs and finding the
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:common threads in that creativity.
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:Fast forward to 2022, and I
wanted to start a show about
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:music, or more importantly about
the people who make the music.
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:That's called The Music
Room, it's still going.
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:And this continues to be a motivation
for me, the humanising of an industry.
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:And the music industry, and indeed
the podcast industry, can feel a bit
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:faceless and isolating, can't it?
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:Especially for us creators.
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:And I just love the idea that,
We can learn from each other
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:and keep each other going.
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:I started a Facebook group
for the Music Room listeners.
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:And honestly, the magic I saw
and still see happening in that
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:group, the support, the motivation,
the collaboration that happened.
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:It's amazing to see it happen.
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:And knowing I've facilitated people's
friendships and helped them in their
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:careers is just the best feeling.
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:I started the Podcasting People
podcast as a bite-size show featuring
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:tips from podcast industry figures,
uh, in the autumn of last year,
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:2023, for a couple of reasons.
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:Firstly, I'd gained a couple of podcast
clients where I fix audio, edit dialogue,
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:and in one client's case, repurpose
video audio for podcast, and
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:by that I mean audio podcast.
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:Oh That's a whole subject I'm
sure we'll get into at some point.
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:Anyway, I felt like I was
now working in the podcast
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:industry and knew no one in it.
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:Plus, as you're probably aware, there
are roughly a hundred bazillion,
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:that's a real number, self appointed
podcast gurus out there who believe
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:if you buy their course, you'll be a
millionaire by the end of the week.
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:So it's also a good marker of how not to
run a podcast community, so rest assured.
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:so what better way to get to know
people in an industry than to start
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:a podcast about that industry.
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:And it's working.
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:I've learned so much.
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:And I guess by extension, this community
is doing the same thing for me personally.
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:And I hope it does the same for you.
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:So that's a bit about me.
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:Let's get into my podcaster toolkit.
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:So this part of the show is all about
peeking inside the toolkits of guests
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:to see how they make their shows.
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:In this episode, I'll be talking
a little bit about my setup, the
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:hardware and software that I use, and
I'll add the list to the show notes.
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:So don't worry about finding
a pen, it's all good.
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:So I've been through some different
setups in the last few years.
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:As a composer, I already had a lot of
equipment, but I found, as I spend more
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:and more time podcasting, that I've
really refined what I use to work for me.
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:And that's really the
most important thing here.
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:What I'll share works for me, but might
not for you, but it might make you
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:think about your setup and how you can
improve certain things for yourself.
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:So I'm not saying these are the
best tools, just that they're not.
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:They're the best for me, at the moment.
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:Uh, maybe I should time stamp it.
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:Captain's Log, April 2024.
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:There you go.
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:Right, I'll start with
the hardware, I think.
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:I use a 2020 M1 MacBook Pro.
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:I like being mobile.
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:If I have to be somewhere and I'm
mid job, or something comes in, it's
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:reassuring to have my computer to hand.
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:In the home studio, I plug it
into a docking station that
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:then goes into a monitor.
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:The docking station is made by CalDigit,
and the audio goes through an audio
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:interface, which means the audio is
hitting the in the best possible state.
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:Mine's a Volt 2 by Universal
Audio and compared to previous
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:interfaces I've had, it sounds great.
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:Uh, and into that I plug my Shure
SM7B microphone via something called a
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:cloud lifter, which boosts the signal.
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:Uh, and you'll find that if
you have a dynamic mic, uh,
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:and a dynamic mic is where
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:it captures what's right in
front of it, not the whole room.
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:So if you have one of those and it sounds
really quiet, get yourself a cloud lifter
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:and it transforms the signal going in.
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:It lifts it, funnily enough.
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:One thing I like about the Shure
SM7B is that it has a built
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:in pop shield, so that's nice.
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:Holding the microphone in place
is the Rode PSA1 Swivel Mount
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:Studio Microphone Boom Arm.
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:It's a mouthful.
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:And that's great for saving a bit of space
as it can clamp to just about anything.
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:I mentioned about the
MacBook and being mobile.
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:Uh, well, I have a Zoom H6,
my trusty field recorder.
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:I use that for music as
well, which is fantastic.
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:Um, and, but it's great for podcasting.
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:If you have multiple people,
it's got lots of inputs.
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:So that's really good as well.
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:And a recent addition I've purchased
is a Rode Lavalier Go, which is a lapel
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:mic that works with the H6, and pretty
much anything with phantom power.
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:And I got that to hopefully
capture some conversations at the
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:podcast show London next month.
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:And incidentally, the RODE Lavalier
Go is the subject of my first
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:review, which will be up next week.
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:Or if it's after next week, it's
already up or something like that.
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:So that's the hardware I use.
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:Uh, I hope that's not too confusing.
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:Um, on to software.
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:Uh, so I thought I'd go through
as I would my production process.
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:So hopefully this will make sense.
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:First up, in order to book guests and
give them the smoothest onboarding I
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:possibly can, I use something called
Calendly, which you may have heard of.
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:Which is a scheduling software.
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:And what's great about Calendly is
that you can set up bespoke emails to
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:remind the guest, to thank the guest.
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:You can include the link to your recording
software, and there's a lot more that
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:I haven't used, but to me it's saved so
much time, it's well worth the money.
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:For planning, scripting, and all
that jazz, I use something that
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:was sitting under my nose for ages.
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:Apple Notes is great and it's free.
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:And I use that in conjunction
with the Apple Reminders app and
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:Apple Calendar, and I'm covered.
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:In fact, I pretty much run my
whole life with those three things.
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:I've tried Trello, Notion.
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:Uh, what are the others?
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:ClickUp, Evernote.
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:But honestly, on reflection,
even a spreadsheet is good.
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:I guess the important thing is
to be organized, and those built
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:in free Apple apps work for me.
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:So once Calendly has automatically
added the meeting to my calendar,
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:and yes it does that too, and
recording day appears, I meet the
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:guests and record via Squadcast,
which is a remote recording tool.
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:A while ago it was bought by
Descript, which I'll come on to.
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:So there's a subscription saving there,
which is great, But I also like the
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:fact it has what it calls progressive
upload, which means it's recording each
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:person separately and at the source.
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:So it usually ends up with
a top quality recording.
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:I mentioned Descript there.
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:Once I have the recording, I can
import into Descript, which is
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:like a multi track audio editor.
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:As easy as a doc, they claim.
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:It does so much more than that.
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:It does video as well.
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:But I tend to stick to audio.
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:Great face for radio, you see.
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:Uh, so the time saver here for me
is that I can edit the transcribed
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:text and it does the heavy lifting
of splicing the audio for me.
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:Which is great.
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:It's non destructive so you can
restore things easily and just edit
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:the audio if you'd prefer that.
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:Um, it has a studio sound feature
that can be a bit hit and miss but
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:you know, if you're lucky, it will
make recording sound even better.
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:But there are so many tools out there
to make your audio sound better, and
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:actually that's a service I offer
as an audio professional as well.
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:Some tools I use are EQs, compressors,
limiters, iZotope RX is great for sorting
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:out background noise, um, and And,
you know, bumps and pops and things.
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:Something called Clear I've been
using, uh, for really quick clear ups.
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:It uses AI, I think, to
quickly remove ambience.
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:Um, but usually it's a judgment
call for me about how to
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:approach improving the audio.
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:It's certainly not one
thing, one size fits all.
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:Sometimes I bring the audio into Logic
Pro, if there's serious work to be done.
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:But if you can get the recording sounding
good at the source, uh, on the day
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:of recording, hopefully you won't get
caught out when you're trying to edit.
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:And at the publishing end of things,
I've tried a few podcast hosts, and as
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:I produce multiple podcasts, the most
cost effective for me has been Captivate.
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:You can find them at Captivate.
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:fm.
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:A big plus for them is that they keep
adding useful features, which is very nice
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:and their customer support is really good.
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:So what's my star of the show?
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:The one tool that stands out
to me as being the most useful.
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:Well, I think for me it's Calendly.
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:Calendly has saved me so much time.
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:It's really paid for
itself multiple times over.
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:It's not cheap at around £80 per year for
the basic tier, but it's really intuitive.
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:It's not just a scheduler
that talks to your calendar.
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:You can automate everything to do
with onboarding guests, avoiding going
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:back and forth really, which, let's
face it, can be a real time suck.
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:So when I send a message or an email
to a guest once they've agreed to
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:appear, they'll see a calendar with
available dates and times, as well
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:as all the information I want the
guest to see about the recording.
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:The link to Squadcast, advice about
the recording, things to consider, etc.
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:Once they've booked, it goes straight into
my calendar with a link, a confirmation
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:is emailed to me and the guest, an
email I can tailor by the way, uh,
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:and then I have an option to send out
a reminder, which can be an amount of
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:time before, whether that's an hour or
a day, uh, an hour after the recording,
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:a thank you email is sent out, with
links to the website, socials, etc.
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:Plus, you can also tailor
what your working hours are.
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:You can set up payments if you're
using it for something that requires
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:payments like consultancy or coaching.
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:And there's also a phone app
so I can use it on there too.
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:Altogether, it's a wonderful
piece of software that can help
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:make your onboarding a whole lot
easier for both you and the guest.
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:And for me, making the guest as
comfortable as possible is the key
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:to making a great interview possible.
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:So there we go.
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:I hope you found that useful.
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:Do let me know in if you're curious about
any of the things I've talked about.
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:And also, do you use any of those things?
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:How are you getting on with them?
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:Let me know.
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:Thanks for joining me for this, the
first episode of Behind the Show.
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:See you later.