00:00 Introduction and Banter

00:29 New Glasses and Weekend Plans

02:18 Travel Stories and Concerns

04:04 Discussion on Zechariah 10

07:50 Prophecy and Interpretation

11:08 Future Redemption and Deliverance

15:23 Closing Remarks and Prayer

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to another edition

of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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Hey, I'm Pastor Rod, but who are you?

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I'm Pastor pj.

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I don't know.

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You look like a stranger to me.

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I can't.

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Do you have id?

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I see what you're doing on this one.

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Can I be sure that you really

are who you say you are?

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See, I wasn't in town this weekend, so

nobody knows what you're referring to.

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Nobody knows.

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But they're gonna find out soon

enough when you show up and

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they're gonna say, who's that guy?

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Yeah, I think.

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I think everyone deserves to

know that you're wearing a

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different piece of facial jewelry.

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I got new glasses.

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Yeah, I did.

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I'm not comfortable with them yet.

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I think you oughta have the others

just in case people wonder who you are.

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You could switch glasses real quick.

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Yeah.

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And say, oh, it's me.

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It's just me.

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It's just me.

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I say, oh, okay.

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I see.

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No, I got new glasses.

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I, so I had glasses that I got like back

pre COVID and they used to be black.

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And so the silver ones that

I've been wearing, those, they

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weren't supposed to be silver.

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Wow.

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They were black.

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The paint started.

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Chipping off them.

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So I just scraped all the paint off.

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You buffed them?

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Yeah.

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And then I was wearing those.

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And I was wearing 'em for a long time.

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And then the pieces, whatever these

ear pieces are in the very back.

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Yeah, those started to crumble.

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You can buy new ones.

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One of them was still holding on, but

the other one had turned into this

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sharp dagger that was like slicing

my ear every time I put it on.

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Yeah, that's a bummer.

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And it had been like five years

since I had got my eyes checked,

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so I went and got my eyes checked

and got a new pair of glasses.

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That's great.

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I love hot pink on you.

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It does compliment your complexion.

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I think it's going to be startling

for a few people, probably

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for a few weeks at least.

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Probably the poodles on the sides team.

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The poodles.

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Yeah.

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That just made 'em even better.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I, it went for a change, but I

don't think it's a dramatic change.

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I don't think dramatic.

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It's dramatic to me.

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Yeah.

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Fair.

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It's new, but it's not like I didn't go

contacts that would've been different.

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Yes, that's true.

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So I still, for both

glasses, people, glasses are.

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Usually a positive accessory.

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Yeah.

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It's the one thing that you can add

that feels like it actually does

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really help with the overall aesthetic.

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I agree.

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Yep.

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Because when I take them off and it's like

when you only know somebody with glasses

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on, then you see 'em with them off.

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Yeah.

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It's whoa.

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Talk about startling something happened.

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Yeah.

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I just saw a slack message come through

that said, should I bring my dolly?

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We're talking about a move that's

taken place this weekend, but.

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Out of context that was sent to

our men's compass, men's slack.

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Oh, should I bring my dolly?

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Was it the Manliest man too?

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That'd be funny.

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Anyways, no dolls needed boys.

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Yeah.

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Keep your dolls at home.

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Yeah.

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Hopefully I'm back in town and

everything went okay with the flights.

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Hopefully that would be a good thing.

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What are you trying to do?

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I'm just saying this past, you

don't say things like that.

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Okay.

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Listen.

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God's in control of all things, but yes.

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But you don't invite him to

do something different, dude.

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Okay.

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This past weekend, right?

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Or this past week.

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All right.

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Somebody on our staff had a family

member flying American Airlines,

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which is what I'm flying, okay.

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Out to California, which

is where I'm going.

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Alright?

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And they did do an emergency landing

over in El Paso because one of the

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windows shattered on the cockpit.

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That's un.

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That's disconcerting.

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That is disconcerting.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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And I guess as they were deplaning,

the pilot is there, as they

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always are to like greet people

as they're coming off the plane.

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Yeah.

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And this guy had like glass and

was, his shirt was all wet and

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everything else, so That's crazy.

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Yes.

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Was that on the news?

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I don't know.

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I'm sure it was somewhere.

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It's probably so common place now.

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Big deal.

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But like planes are going

down all the time now.

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The oxygen masks drop

down and that's crazy.

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That plane was shaking, so that's crazy.

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Hopefully I'm back in town.

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I prefer not to think in those ways.

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I'm with you on that and I know

my family would as well, so Yeah.

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That's why I'm saying this

after I'm already back in town,

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you could just take the bus.

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That'd be a long bus drive.

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Yeah.

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Plus there's some.

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Shady characters on the bus.

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But if you go on a nice bus,

they have buses now where the

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seats are captain's chairs, and

they vibrate and they have wifi.

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They're really cool looking buses,

but I think I would've had to

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leave a lot earlier than I did.

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That's okay.

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That's okay.

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You're like, you can be

gone longer than fine.

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Could be gone longer.

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Gone back in one piece on a nice bus ride.

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There it is.

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Get charter, a bus.

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There we go.

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Or buy a Tesla and have

it drive you by itself.

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Or what if I just had

Pastor Mark drive me?

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That works?

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Yeah.

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I volunteer Pastor Mark to take you.

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Okay.

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To and from California.

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Awesome.

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Great.

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It's done.

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It's done retroactively.

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Done.

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Done.

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Okay.

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Alright, let's jump into Zechariah 10.

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We're gonna finish Zechariah today.

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There's a lot in Zechariah.

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There is?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's a hard book.

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It is a hard book.

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Remind me why you didn't preach it again.

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I'm hurting right now.

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Because it didn't fit in the

minor prophet series did not fit.

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Yeah.

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Tell Zacharia that.

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Hey buddy, I will.

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I'll be like, Hey, when you

see him in heaven, luck, man.

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If you don't make it back from

this plane flight thing, you say,

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Hey man, I need to apologize.

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You weren't able to fit

into my series here.

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Yeah.

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He's gonna take issue with you, I'm sure.

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No, he won't because it'll be all good.

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Because we'll be in heaven.

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He'll be like, I understand.

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Yeah.

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You think so?

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Yeah.

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You think so?

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He'll be like, he confused me too.

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It's true.

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I bet.

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When he's going through

these Yeah, he did though.

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He was confused by these things.

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'cause he is having to

ask, what does this mean?

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Peter said that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This is hard.

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It, yes, it is hard.

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So if you feel like

it's hard, I'm on mute.

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Go ahead you, you're with everybody.

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Alright.

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Ze 10.

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The.

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The chapter 12, chapter 13.

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These are really encouraging

and awesome chapters.

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Not that chapter 10 11 need

to be jettison or anything.

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I'm not saying that,

but Chapter 10 is this.

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Chapter 10 is basically God

is focusing on the continued

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restorative work that he's going.

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Do that.

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The Messiah's gonna do he's

gonna punish the false shepherds.

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So we've talked about shepherds before.

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These shepherds are most likely

the spiritual leaders of Israel.

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And so the Messiah's gonna come and

punish the false shepherds who had

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done so much harm to his people.

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And he is gonna then turn around and

he's gonna be with them both as the

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true shepherd, the Good Shepherd.

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Think John chapter 10, but also

as their powerful military ruler.

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So.

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The expected military political messiah,

the Jews are going to get that Messiah.

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It's just not when they thought they were

gonna get that he is going to come back

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and he is gonna come back with vengeance

and he's going to conquer and he's gonna

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rule and he's gonna lead and nobody's

gonna be able to stand up against him.

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But that's gonna be the millennial

kingdom and that's what Chapter 10 is

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anticipating and looking forward to.

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So verses six through 12, then God

promises to bring all Israel back

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during this time as he scattered them.

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So he's gonna bring them back

and I find it interesting.

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He says, I'm gonna whistle for them to.

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To bring them back.

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It's almost like you

whistle for your pet dog.

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It's like God's I'm gonna whistle for my

people and they're gonna come back to me.

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My dad used to whistle

for me and my brother.

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Yeah.

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And now is that weird?

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Was it like a unique whistle?

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You knew that was your dad's whistle?

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He's the only one who ever whistled.

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Okay.

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So I would say yes.

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Yes.

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It is unique in the fact that I.

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I only later in my life realized

that it's really weird to

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have someone whistle for you.

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But was it like just a singular,

like you heard it and you're

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like, okay, that's the whistle.

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I need to go back because he's

the only one who whistles.

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That's my point though.

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No one else whistles.

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There's with a dog like you go.

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It wasn't like that wasn't, you're

trying to, it wasn't like that but

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have you ever whistled for your kids?

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No.

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No.

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My dad whistled for us.

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I snapped at my kids.

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Okay.

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See yeah, I don't know.

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The whistle just feels.

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Unusual.

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It was no one else.

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No one else did.

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Yeah, that's fair.

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Anyway God's gonna whistle for his people.

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God's gonna whistle.

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So I guess it's fine actually.

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Yeah, I, after saying all

that, it's clearly very fine.

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Yeah.

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Chapter 11 though is gonna provide a

little bit of an interlude in a, in a

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flashback 'cause all these blessings

are not gonna come immediately.

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'cause Israel's gonna.

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The Messiah at his first appear, and

they're gonna suffer judgment for it.

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And so verses one through

three, you've got of chapter

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11, that wrath is going to come.

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The people are gonna reject their

true shepherd in verses four through

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10 and then 12 and 13, they're gonna

put his worth at 30 pieces of silver.

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That was the amount that a person would

pay for a wounded slave during this time.

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And so that is the price

that's put on the shepherd.

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That's also the price, if you're thinking

about it, that's put on the life of

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Jesus as the Pharisees agree with.

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Judas to portray Jesus

for 30 pieces of silver.

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And we get some pretty detailed response

that says, let it be given over to the

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potter, and then the money is gonna

be taken and cast into the temple.

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That's exactly what happens

when Judas agrees to betray.

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Jesus goes and does that

feels guilty about it.

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Comes back, throws the

money into the temple.

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And what do the religious

leaders do with it?

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They take it and they buy the

potters field and that's where

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the poor are going to be buried.

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So chapter 11 is really.

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Depicting the rejection of the

Messiah at his first coming.

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Okay, so would Zacharia

chapter 11 qualify?

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As prophecy about Jesus?

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I would say yes.

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Okay.

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I assume so.

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Yeah.

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That's how I understand it as well.

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Yeah.

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Most people probably would look at this

and at face value as they read it, they're

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not gonna say, oh, this is clearly saying

this is gonna be true of the Messiah.

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So how does this work then?

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Because we often, as Christians will tell

unbelievers, look, you can trust the Bible

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because there's predictive prophecy in it.

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And we might even think about Zechariah

11, where you got the 30 pieces of silver,

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it gets tossed into the temple, yada.

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But it doesn't say that.

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It doesn't say, this is a prophecy

predicting the Messiah's life.

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So how do we put those pieces together

when it clearly doesn't say that, but we

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could say, man, this fits too well to be

anything other than a predictive prophecy.

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And I think that's part of the

nature of progressive revelation

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in that, is that is we have the

fullness of gads revealed word.

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We're able to read the Old

Testament with the New Testament.

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In mind.

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And we also read the New Testament

with the Old Testament in mind.

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And so because we consider the full

canon of scripture, we're able to

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understand at different layers what

the Old Testament Saints didn't fully

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comprehend or comprehend, or didn't

fully understand during that time.

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And even the New Testament saints didn't

fully understand or fully comprehend.

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We have the fullness of it

revealed to us in God's word.

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And that's a great privilege that we have.

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So we can look back at things like this

and see, yes, there's fulfillment here.

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Even though this doesn't say this is

specifically about the Messiah, we

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can read it and say this clearly is.

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Speaking of the Messiah, just

like in Psalm 22, my God,

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why have you forsaken me?

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When David's talking about that, you could

read that and say that's about David.

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But we read that and we're like,

clearly this is about Jesus.

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He's looking forward to

what's gonna happen to Jesus.

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And so here in Zechariah, I

think it's the same principle.

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So if skeptic or one of our friends

says, yeah you're just reading into it.

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You're reading into it what

you want to read into it.

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You're encouraged to do so because

it reinforces your belief system.

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Anything you might say

to someone like that?

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I think we have to remember when

we're arguing with an unbeliever

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about the interpretation of scripture,

we're arguing with somebody that's

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not playing with a full deck.

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Not meaning mentally taco,

short of a taco platter.

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Pickle.

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Short of A window.

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A window.

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No we're dealing with somebody who is.

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They don't have the spirit within them

to be able to understand scripture.

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And so we have the Holy Spirit dwelling

within us who helps us understand

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scripture and understand all of these

different layers and how they all

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correlate and connect to one another.

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So I think, not understand but accept.

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Maybe not understand.

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Yeah, fine.

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'cause understanding is often challenged.

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Fair.

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But accept them and

embrace them at face value.

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True by faith.

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Yes, true.

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So if you've got an unbeliever

going, I don't see it.

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I'm not surprised at that.

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I'm not any, but at the same time, it's

also not gonna shake my faith because

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you're dealing with somebody that's

reading it without the aid and help

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of the Holy Spirit and dwelling them.

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Yeah.

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And I could also say too, all

the scripture points to Jesus

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in some way, shape, or form.

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Yes.

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He's the pinnacle.

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Even as we said that, I think in the last

podcast, we're trying to make the point

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here, the Old Testament points to Christ.

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Yes.

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And that's what he did with the two

disciples on the road to Emmaus.

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He showed them, beginning with Moses and

looking at through the whole scriptures.

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He's pointing out this all points to me.

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Yeah.

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And if we read the scripture is looking

at Jesus and we find ways that he, and

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this can go wrong, let just qualify.

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This can go wrong.

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And maybe there are books that are written

that create a mountain out of a molehill.

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You shouldn't do that.

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But by and large, scripture

does point to Jesus.

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So to see Jesus in these

scriptures is not a wrong thing.

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Yeah, I agree with everything I just said.

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Chapter 12 through 14, really pivot to

the future redemption and deliverance

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of Israel and chapter, I should say,

chapter 11 ends by talking about

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this false shepherd that's gonna rise

and that false shepherd that's gonna

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rise appears to be the antichrist.

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And the antichrist is gonna be on the

scene again in chapter 12 because we

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open up with the battle of Armageddon.

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And we open up with the ultimate

eschatological victory of Christ and

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his forces over the forces of evil.

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And so Chapter 12 sets up the millennial

kingdom and sets up the future

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deliverance of the people of Israel.

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But we still have to deliver

with deal with Israel's.

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Spiritual deliverance and the need for

Israel to be spiritually acceptable

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before God because there's not a new

way for them to be made right with God.

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It's always going to be the same

as it was for you and for me.

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When it comes to our need to be made

right with God, they've gotta have

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their sins dealt with or atoned for.

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And so that is depicted in verses

10 through 14 of chapter 12

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and into chapter 13 verse one.

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Israel is gonna re realize that they

made an error by rejecting the Messiah

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at his first coming, like we were

just talking about in chapter 11.

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And that.

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Realization is gonna

lead them to mourning.

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I think this is the godly grief

that Paul talks about in Second

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Corinthians chapter seven.

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This is genuine repentance that is gonna

lead to them trusting then in Jesus,

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chapter 13 verse one, and realizing

that this fountain has been opened

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for them to cleanse them from sin.

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And that fountain is the blood of Christ.

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That fountain is the salvation.

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That was wrought for them at the cross.

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And so those that are part of God's

people are going to make that decision.

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Is that everybody in

the millennial kingdom?

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No.

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There's going to be those that still

reject Christ and remain stubbornly

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disobedient during this time, but those

that God is going to deliver spiritually

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during this timeframe are those that are

going to have realized what they did.

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Now they meaning corporate

Israel did in nailing him to the.

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The tree and then the repentance

that then leads to faith that

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produces the forgiveness of sin.

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This redemption is going to be brought

to Israel when they realize that the

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error in crucifying, the true shepherd,

the good shepherd and that is what

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we see here in chapter 12 and 13.

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I love this imagery in chapter

13 of a fountain being opened.

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It reminds me that there's an ever.

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Flowing spring available to me where my

sins can be forgiven and washed away.

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I can never outstand the grace of

God because the fountain is eternal.

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It springs from the blood of Christ.

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It is his sacrifice on the cross

that makes us clean, and that

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means all of my sin, past, present,

and future has been dealt with.

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I love this and it means I can

always go to this fountain.

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Jesus ever lives to intercede for me.

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Because of what he's done.

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And I love that.

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Eventually Israel's gonna see this.

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This is exciting to me.

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I can just imagine what it's gonna

look like for the lights to finally

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turn on for them and for them to

feel this mixture of deep sorrow

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and sadness and great joy and faith.

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I can't wait and I hope

I get to see this day.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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In the end of chapter 13, this

is I guess I should back up and

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correct something I said there.

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This is not yet the millennial kingdom

because this is leading into that.

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This is them during

the tribulation period.

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I think realizing the error of their

ways, and so this is the purification

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of those that are gonna be.

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Genuine believers during this time because

then the tribulation is going to come,

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and that's depicted here at the end of

chapter 13 in verses seven through nine.

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And during this refining time of purifying

the draws from the nation of Israel

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the nations are gonna gather against.

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Israel and against Christ again.

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And that's depicted in

the Book of Revelation.

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And then we turn it to Zechariah, chapter

14, where the final victory is depicted.

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And this is where the

Messiah is gonna return.

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He's gonna land both his

feet on the Mount of Olives.

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The Mount is gonna split, there's

gonna be a valley there, and the

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day of the Lord is going to come and

establish the throne of Christ forever

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and ever from that time forward.

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The millennial kingdom is going

to come, it's gonna be the.

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That time of great celebration and great

joy, but I guess the repentance is taking

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place during the tribulation period.

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That precedes that.

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That makes sense.

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Yeah.

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Hey, you remember that

song that Pastor Ben wrote?

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Yes.

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That looking upon the one that we pierced?

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Yeah, you should do that song.

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That's a good song.

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That's a great song.

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I love that song.

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Yeah.

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I think HB even recorded it

on Spotify, is that right?

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Yeah.

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No kidding.

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Yeah.

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Not HB Charles Huntington Beach.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think they recorded,

what's the name of that song?

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It's gotta be under Ben Blake's name.

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I would imagine so, yeah.

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I'm gonna look and see if I can find it.

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That's a great song.

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It is.

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Maybe we can link it for you guys,

'cause it's such a good song and

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it's based off of Zacharia chapter.

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1212 is what it is.

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Yep.

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So lemme pray and then we'll be

done with another episode and

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done with the Book of Zacharia.

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God we are.

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Anticipating that future time when you

do open the eyes of the lost and open

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the eyes of the lost of the nation of

Israel and show them Christ and meet their

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mourning with the great joy of knowing

that their sins can be forgiven in Christ.

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Lord, we anticipate that day.

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We pray for that day.

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We ask even that you would hasen that

day because that means you will have

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come back for your church and we'll be

with you, and we want to be with you.

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We don't wanna be.

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Here anymore.

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We long to be in your presence

and with our savior Jesus

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Christ, and so hasten that day.

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We do ask and we do pray, and I know

we'll have a front row seat for a lot

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of this as it's unfolding before us.

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And so now just use books like Zechariah

and others to prepare us as much as

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possible for that time and to cause us

to our affections, to be stirred for that

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time so that we will long for it and pray

for it, and work towards that end as well.

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So we pray this all in Jesus' name.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Keep your Bibles tuned again

tomorrow for another edition

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Bye.

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PJ: Yeah.

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I would agree with

everything that you said