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It's really about living so in the
now that what you need to know,
Speaker:when you need to know
it, happens as it arises,
Speaker:not a moment too soon
or a moment too late,
Speaker:which is about being in
presence with a capital "P.".
Speaker:Hello and welcome back to
Remember Why You Are Here,
Speaker:a podcast for seekers and sensitives
where you can relax, receive,
Speaker:reconnect to yourself, and remember
the most important thing of all:
Speaker:why you're here. I'm Asia
Suler, author, Earth Intuitive,
Speaker:teacher,
Speaker:and today I'm so excited
because I get to sit with an
Speaker:incredible astrologer, someone who
I've known now for over 10 years,
Speaker:the amazing Liz Gunn. So Liz,
Speaker:I'm going to read your official bio first,
Speaker:and then I want to talk a little bit
about how I know you and who you are in
Speaker:this community, because
you're such a pillar here.
Speaker:Oh, thank you.
Speaker:Yeah. Okay. I have it written down:
Speaker:Liz Gunn is an intuitive astrologer and
channel with over 35 years of practical
Speaker:application as a skilled translator of
planetary influences. Based in Asheville,
Speaker:North Carolina, with a dedicated client
base both locally and internationally,
Speaker:Liz has facilitated over 5,000 client
readings and connected with hundreds more
Speaker:through her small group
gatherings and public talks.
Speaker:Her readings specialize in shifting your
perceptions in order to see the gift in
Speaker:life's challenges.
Speaker:Liz is especially committed to
cultivating self-awareness through
Speaker:self-acceptance within
the LGBTQIA community,
Speaker:and offers uncommon wisdom that will
inspire you to find faith and meaning in
Speaker:your own story. So yeah,
as I mentioned before,
Speaker:Liz, I've known you now for over 10 years,
Speaker:so you've seen me through
different iterations in my life.
Speaker:You are such a prized community elder.
Speaker:And I say this with just
the fullness of my heart:
Speaker:the groups that I run in,
the people that I know,
Speaker:everyone's like, "Oh,
I'm having a hard time.
Speaker:I wanna call Liz." Or I literally was at
a gathering the other week and someone
Speaker:was like, "I wasn't going to
come. I was in such a hard place.
Speaker:But then I had a reading
with Liz and now here I am.".
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:And so yeah,
Speaker:you really are someone
who has uplifted our
Speaker:community in so many ways, someone
who we look to as an elder.
Speaker:And I'm just so grateful to you for what
you're holding down in this community.
Speaker:You are also the mother
of one of my friends,
Speaker:someone who's become my friend actually,
really, since actually meeting you.
Speaker:I met you first in a lot of ways. I
was connecting with you in that way.
Speaker:But yeah,
Speaker:so you are just such an emblem
to me of what it means to be an
Speaker:elder astrologer and
someone who, as an elder,
Speaker:shows us what it's like too to
keep evolving. And that's huge.
Speaker:And so I'm so grateful
Speaker:that you are willing to come onto
the podcast and share your wisdom
Speaker:and your channeling really for
Speaker:what's in the air stepping into 2026.
Speaker:Well, thank you. And thank you for saying
that because honestly, I feel like I,
Speaker:over the last 15 or so years of doing
this work full-time in Asheville,
Speaker:I don't think that I know how known I
Speaker:am because I never leave the house
because I'm always doing readings.
Speaker:And so it means a lot to
have that reflection just
Speaker:from the sort of threshold that
I'm crossing, and that affirmation,
Speaker:because every time someone contacts
me for a reading, I say, "Well,
Speaker:how did you hear about my work?" And
I've had people say, "What do you mean?
Speaker:How did I hear about your work?".
Speaker:You're like, "Everybody knows.".
Speaker:So I forget that because I just feel
like I'm always just opening the door and
Speaker:inviting people in or turning Zoom on
since: Speaker:and just being in that commitment and kind
Speaker:of...not that I forget the impact,
Speaker:but I just am always in the container.
Speaker:Yeah. Well, yeah, you are
having a huge impact. And yeah,
Speaker:what you said too is reminding me
of even just the reality of like,
Speaker:in the constellation of our community,
Speaker:you are literally that elder,
Speaker:wise witch who has the beautiful
home that you show up to,
Speaker:you knock on the door
like, "Please help me.
Speaker:" You show up to and wander in and
you leave being like, "Oh my gosh,
Speaker:I can't believe how much better I feel.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:How helped I was.".
Speaker:Yeah. I feel like in a nutshell,
Speaker:I'm really good at helping people feel
really good about the really hard things
Speaker:happening in their life.
Speaker:Which is what we need basically to
keep going. So thank you for that.
Speaker:You're so welcome. Thank you.
Speaker:Okay. So I'm curious as we get started,
Speaker:because this is just such a fun
thing to tune into for people,
Speaker:what is your sun moon and rising?
Speaker:I'm a sun sign Taurus.
I am a cancer rising.
Speaker:And a moon in Sagittarius.
Speaker:Mmmm. We have that in common. So yes,
Speaker:I am a cancer sun.
Speaker:I am a Leo rising and I
also have my moon in Taurus.
Speaker:Yes. And our moon and our sun and Taurus
are hanging out very closely together.
Speaker:I love that. And now we're hanging out
really closely together. Perfect. Yes.
Speaker:Okay. So we talked a little bit before
we started and we were both like,
Speaker:"We don't know where we're going to go.
Speaker:Let's see where we get taken." But I knew
I wanted to start with this question,
Speaker:so we're going to start here and
then we'll just see where we go.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So the question is,
Speaker:if you had to describe the energetic
weather of this year in just a few
Speaker:words, what would you say?
Speaker:Oh gosh. Well, I'll try to
describe it in a few words.
Speaker:And yesterday when I was
sitting with that question and
Speaker:tuning in in the way that I do to get
the answer so that the answer is not
Speaker:coming from my front mind,
Speaker:this analogy came to me and it was...
Speaker:I don't know if you've ever read
the book Stardust by Neil Gayman.
Speaker:I haven't.
Speaker:I know there's controversy around him
that I'll acknowledge and we'll just set
Speaker:that over here, whatever. But
the book I read maybe a year ago,
Speaker:and that felt like the download
for the answer to that question.
Speaker:And so just quickly,
Speaker:it's a young adult, but I love that,
Speaker:fantasy fairytale.
Speaker:Yes, all those things.
Speaker:It's all those things.
Speaker:And it's set in 19th century
England in this fictional town
Speaker:called Wall.
Speaker:And the reason that the town is called
Wall is because there is this stone wall
Speaker:that runs on the edge of town
and the wall is the border to the
Speaker:fairy world, the fairyland.
Speaker:And there's this main
character, Tristan Thorne,
Speaker:who every nine years-which
is so interesting because
that's a nodal opposition
Speaker:cycle,
Speaker:where karmic influences kind of are
brought to light-but every nine years,
Speaker:there's a market behind the wall where
humans are allowed to go to the fairy
Speaker:market. And so it's kind of this...
Speaker:when I think about the
energetic weather for the year,
Speaker:I feel like it's this moment where we're
all going through the wall into the
Speaker:fairy world. And in my
version of the reality,
Speaker:that would be the cosmic
galactic world as well.
Speaker:So this merging of inner dimensional
reality. But in the book,
Speaker:Stardust,
Speaker:the reason it's called that is because
Tristan doesn't know that he's actually
Speaker:half fairy and was birthed 18 years
prior to him going through the wall,
Speaker:which is... 18.6 years,
Speaker:I believe is like a full nodal cycle when
we have these [Kutz?] patterns return.
Speaker:But in the book,
Speaker:he's professing his love to this
woman and they see a star fall.
Speaker:So she rejects... kind of
rejects him and he says,
Speaker:"If I bring back the fallen
star, will you marry me?
Speaker:" So he goes on the quest through
the wall to find the fallen star,
Speaker:only to fall in love with
the star once he finds her.
Speaker:And so the stardust theme to me
is, for the year, is that we...
Speaker:it's like we are going to have access to
Speaker:the stardust that lives inside the
molecular magic of our bodies. Because
Speaker:we think about the planets out
there, at least the paradigm...
Speaker:not that I think that,
Speaker:but I know the paradigm thinks the
planets out there are moving and causing
Speaker:things to happen, but really
we are that same stardust.
Speaker:So it's not causing anything to happen.
Speaker:It's that we are responding as if we
are the stars and planets themselves and
Speaker:learning how to discern who's
talking is something that I love to
Speaker:talk about.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So the energetic theme of the year is,
Speaker:I think each one of us are going
to encounter facets of our own
Speaker:stardust essence and bring that
into form, into actualization,
Speaker:into expression. So that was
what I got for the theme.
Speaker:Okay. I'm here for that. And what
like... so in that theme, I'm so curious,
Speaker:what do you feel like is the wall? Like
what... that wall that's been there,
Speaker:what is that? If that's like.
Speaker:What is the wall?
Speaker:Yeah, if we're going beyond the wall...
Speaker:Fear. The wall is our fear, our own ...
Speaker:Earth is a place of limitation
and designed that way for our
Speaker:benefit, but everything expresses
kind of ... We're in Saturn territory.
Speaker:So here we are. But I just... yeah,
Speaker:I feel like part of the
experience of duality and being
Speaker:in this world of
Speaker:limitation is to really lean into the
Speaker:discomfort of our fear in order to
be able to... not break through,
Speaker:although there is a breakthrough quality
of energy for the year with Uranus,
Speaker:but kind of to find
Speaker:the opening that is our sort of
personal passageway into that
Speaker:realm.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Well, so tell me what's
going on with Uranus,
Speaker:what's happening with that sphere?
Speaker:So I love the outer planets,
Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.
Speaker:And I was saying this
yesterday to our mutual friend,
Speaker:that people talk about the big three
being the sun, moon and rising.
Speaker:And for me and how I have been oriented to
Speaker:my relationship with the planets and the
planetary beings is the big three to me
Speaker:are Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
Speaker:Mmm!
Speaker:Because they connect to these
long arcs of evolutionary
Speaker:time, which is what I'm interested in,
Speaker:is how the soul evolves
through time and in a long...
Speaker:kind of like the long calendar
of the Mayans. And Uranus,
Speaker:for how I work with Uranus,
Speaker:is the catalytic impulse
of the soul to evolve.
Speaker:So there's this circuitry from Uranus.
Speaker:And Uranus is moving from
its seven year stay in
Speaker:Taurus,
Speaker:which is a very different quality of
energy that we kind of danced with
Speaker:for a minute when Uranus went into
Gemini on July 7th briefly before it
Speaker:retrograded back. But on April 26th, 2026,
Speaker:it'll move into Gemini full-time.
Speaker:And it's going to be in this conversation
with Pluto that humanity has never had
Speaker:an experience of: the quality of
conversation between Pluto and Uranus'
Speaker:sign, Aquarius (being the modern
ruler. Saturn is the ancient ruler).
Speaker:But yeah,
Speaker:it's a very galactic
fast moving transmission.
Speaker:Tell me more about Pluto too.
Speaker:Now that I know they're
going to be in conversation,
Speaker:what's the energy that Pluto...
Speaker:So
Speaker:Pluto takes close to 250
years to do a full rotation
Speaker:around the sun. It's far out.
Speaker:It's a very slow orbit. And that is where,
Speaker:for me, Pluto is kind of my
Speaker:BFF, but it's taken a long time.
Speaker:I was going to say, that
must have taken some work.
Speaker:With Pluto, I think we first get
the knock from Pluto and then
Speaker:shut the door,
Speaker:turn out the lights and put a bookcase
against the door and be really quiet.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And but Pluto has this quality
of power and energy and force
Speaker:that
Speaker:is inherently designed
in our molecular wiring
Speaker:to alchemize and transmute
and transform and bring us
Speaker:through the continuum around power themes,
Speaker:from the love of power
to the power of love.
Speaker:So we're moving into a quality of energy
that connects to the power of love in a
Speaker:broader way, connected to community,
humanitarian, egalitarian,
Speaker:all the new paradigm energies that are
wanting to be birthed out of the fracture
Speaker:and collapse of the patriarchal
paradigm. So Pluto in Capricorn,
Speaker:from 2008 until November 19th, 2024,
Speaker:was really highlighting,
Speaker:illuminating, through all the ways
we know that that's happened...
Speaker:It's like the shadows of our
consciousness, of our cultures,
Speaker:of our reality, of our communities,
now have a light shining on them.
Speaker:And there's been this permission slip
for a lot of really bad behavior.
Speaker:And I feel like the Pluto Uranus
trine, which is this harmonious aspect,
Speaker:is going to be a fast moving energy
along with some other things to start to
Speaker:bring us further over this threshold
into a dimension of reality
Speaker:that I don't think anyone knows
what that's going to be. I don't.
Speaker:Yeah. So thinking about
asking what is the year ahead,
Speaker:if I were to answer really honestly,
I would say I have no idea.
Speaker:That there's a lot of mystery.
Speaker:It's a lot of mystery.
Speaker:Because things feel like they're moving
so rapidly and changing so rapidly.
Speaker:And we can look and see like, okay,
what are the going to be the transits,
Speaker:what's going to be happening in the
stars, but how that translates-.
Speaker:To our lives.
Speaker:And I guess it really depends too
on the choice points of how we're
Speaker:choosing to meet what changes
personally and also collectively.
Speaker:And that's such an important ...
Speaker:In thinking about your questions
and how to answer and...
Speaker:Because I know people, we're wired
to want to know what's ahead.
Speaker:We're so wired to like... "tell me".
Speaker:And then I think honestly,
Speaker:the image I'm having is that wall
that takes us into the galactic
Speaker:fairy realm, we'll call it, the non-human,
Speaker:the meeting of physical and non-physical,
of non-ordinary and ordinary, of
Speaker:our luminous selves.
Speaker:But the desire to know actually
keeps us in limitation.
Speaker:And that's something I've discovered.
Everything I talk about is not a concept.
Speaker:It's like actually how I've had to
change my own orientation to life over 40
Speaker:years of... actually not
how I've had to change,
Speaker:but how I have been changed.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Not how I've had to because we're
always in choice. So I never had to,
Speaker:but I've wanted to.
Speaker:And so there's always been this
allowing of being available to be
Speaker:taught what the astrology is
because I've got a lot of books too,
Speaker:and you can look in a book.
Speaker:And I've realized in some things
that I've been in in the last
Speaker:couple of years, where if I look it up,
Speaker:all I think is this says absolutely
nothing about the truth of what this
Speaker:experience is.
Speaker:And that's why I'm so passionate
about readings is because I'm
Speaker:obsessed with learning
about what it all means.
Speaker:And I feel like every person I
meet with teaches me what it means.
Speaker:That's beautiful.
Speaker:And then I get to metabolize that in
my own wisdom and then share that.
Speaker:So it's this constant reciprocity
of sitting with people.
Speaker:And I think every client is my teacher.
Speaker:Mhmm, yeah.
Speaker:Because the planetary beings are
actually speaking through them.
Speaker:So the planetary beings are
teaching me through what you say,
Speaker:like when we were sitting
before and I listen,
Speaker:I'm hearing on a lot of different levels.
Speaker:And, well, I'm curious then on that note,
Speaker:because we were talking before about
this being like a year where there's
Speaker:more embodiment, like people are
coming more into their bodies,
Speaker:more into really feeling
those planetary influences,
Speaker:becoming more of a channel for
that within their own selves,
Speaker:like this sort of embodied knowing.
Speaker:And I'm curious if anything came
through or you have any insight
Speaker:for folks around like, "Okay,
well, how do I do that?
Speaker:" Or what does that look like? Especially
because there can be such a... like
Speaker:bless our hearts,
Speaker:such as a desire to look at the predictive
astrology for that week and be like,
Speaker:basically, with kind
of this sense of like,
Speaker:"Will I be spared?" I feel like that's
our vibe often, will I be spared?
Speaker:But what you're talking about
is the empowerment of really
Speaker:feeling for yourself. What do I feel?
Speaker:What am I experiencing? What is my
personal connection with this planet?
Speaker:And I'm just curious from your experience,
Speaker:if there's anything that
helps people to do that.
Speaker:Okay. Let me see. Well,
Speaker:one thing I would say,
Speaker:because I don't know if all your
listeners are all into astrology.
Speaker:I think it runs the gamut. I
think everyone's interested...
Speaker:In some capacity.
Speaker:Yeah. If you're listening, you're
interested. But their knowledge-.
Speaker:It varies.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Of course. So
Speaker:one thing that I have kind of
come to understand, I think,
Speaker:over the decades is really
the precept of "know
Speaker:thyself" is the anchor point.
Speaker:And that is from within.
Speaker:And of course we're all content
downloaders. We want to know,
Speaker:we want information, we want insight from
different people. And like I had said,
Speaker:information and content
does not equate to wisdom.
Speaker:So what I would say is, A. put the
apps down, get off social media,
Speaker:stop listening to TikTok,
Speaker:take a break and tune in to
Speaker:a quality of receptivity that
Speaker:we all have access to.
Speaker:And because astrology has exploded
online in the last 12 years,
Speaker:it makes it easy to think that
information equates to wisdom.
Speaker:And information has no nuance.
Speaker:And so the planets are very nuanced.
Speaker:And so I've learned
Saturn, Pluto, Mercury,
Speaker:every one of them feel like animated.
Speaker:Like they're actual living
presences to me and they communicate
Speaker:to me. And I know, often,
who's communicating, but
Speaker:you don't have to know any astrology ever
Speaker:to access the magic of the
planets because if you're
Speaker:living your life and following what's
of value and importance and meaning
Speaker:to you and whatever we'll
say the healing journey is
Speaker:asking,
Speaker:then you're going to be living in
coherence with the planetary archetypes in
Speaker:your own body.
Speaker:They're going to be alive and
well and informative in ways
Speaker:that are far richer than
Speaker:content. But it's a practice.
Speaker:It is a nuanced practice. And that's
actually, when we get to it later,
Speaker:something that I just received
a transmission about, "Oh,
Speaker:you should teach about this.
Speaker:" I don't really have
more than the outline,
Speaker:but the way I think to
Speaker:really work with the astrology is
to be present in the now, to not go,
Speaker:"what's happening in May?"
Because then our mind wants to
Speaker:conceptualize an outcome that's
going to make us comfortable,
Speaker:which is what keeps us in
Speaker:limitation because we define
things as good or bad.
Speaker:and comfort would fall in
the bad category... or lack
of comfort would fall in
Speaker:the "not good" category,
Speaker:when discomfort right
now is really part of the
Speaker:metamorphosis that is required to
be shaped by the mystery and to
Speaker:encounter the mystery in a more
malleable way. And so for me,
Speaker:I can only speak how I
have learned to do it, is
Speaker:honestly, I hardly ever know what's
happening down the road. I mean, I do,
Speaker:but I don't think about it.
Because I listen to stuff. I mean,
Speaker:I am fascinated and interested and I
have key people that I really value their
Speaker:information and their wisdom, but
Speaker:I don't really keep my eye
on a signpost down the road.
Speaker:I know what's going on right now
Speaker:and I work with that because
from a soul's perspective,
Speaker:working with where you are right now is
going to inform that thing that happens
Speaker:down the road. But if your eye
is on what's down the road,
Speaker:you're going to be making choices to
make sure you feel okay and get what you
Speaker:want and are attached to an outcome. And
Speaker:I mean, that is one way to do it,
Speaker:but I have just found that taking the
next right step means that I'm more
Speaker:available for serendipity, synchronicity,
Speaker:and the magic of the way that the
planets want to express through
Speaker:surprise, through Uranian kind of like
shocks that actually don't have to
Speaker:throw me, break the ground beneath me,
Speaker:but they might relocate me
into a much better situation.
Speaker:Does that make sense?
Speaker:Yeah. It's something I have started to
say to myself in the recent years is,
Speaker:"Okay, if I think something's
going to be some way,
Speaker:I can at least take heart because I
know it's not going to be that way."
Speaker:And even if it's adjacent or similar,
Speaker:because we all get downloads of guidance
and we get visions of the future and
Speaker:sometimes it's close, but
it's never exactly it.
Speaker:And I think that's kind of by design,
Speaker:that it's like if we think
something's exactly it,
Speaker:it's actually kind of comforting
because you're like, "Okay,
Speaker:it's not going to be exactly that, but
it might be a few degrees this way.
Speaker:It might be a few degrees that way. It
might be totally different." And yeah,
Speaker:I think that that is ...
Speaker:I love that you're bringing it
in as almost like this element of
Speaker:distraction, honestly, from
what it is we're here to do.
Speaker:And I remember this Daoist
teacher, Jeffrey Yuen,
Speaker:hearing him say that
information is entertainment.
Speaker:And it's good entertainment.
Speaker:I love information,
Speaker:but that ultimately in terms of the
soul's growth and the soul's journey,
Speaker:that it is so much more
about that inner listening,
Speaker:that embodiment, like
what you are receiving.
Speaker:And that's more important now than
ever because as you're talking,
Speaker:one of the things about 2026 is
we're entering territory that is
Speaker:unknown to every human on the planet.
Speaker:We're entering sort of an
astrological landscape that
Speaker:from a vibrational expression,
Speaker:meaning a vibrational expression
through our lived experience,
Speaker:like who's lived through
a collapse before? I mean,
Speaker:certainly maybe in other timelines
that are running as well.
Speaker:But we're entering
territory where humanity is
Speaker:moving through...
Speaker:and I'm not proficient
in the Mayan technology,
Speaker:only enough to know the resonance
of these epochs of change and the
Speaker:evolutionary waves and ebbs and flows,
Speaker:but we're moving into a dimensional
experience of reality that is really going
Speaker:to create invitations for us to meet our
Speaker:galactive,
Speaker:galactic selves and ancestors and
Speaker:friends. And I don't know what
that's going to look like,
Speaker:but I'm already starting to
get some knocks on the door and
Speaker:we don't know the territory
we're moving into.
Speaker:So to be in the unknown is
not what we're conditioned
Speaker:in.
Speaker:All of us who are alive now are not
inherently conditioned to rest in
Speaker:the mystery. We're
conditioned to set a goal,
Speaker:there's the mountain, here's
your pack, get to base camp,
Speaker:climb the mountain. Oh, then there's
the next one and there's the next one.
Speaker:And things are,
Speaker:in the way that I have been receiving
information and understanding is,
Speaker:the reality is not set
that we're moving into.
Speaker:Yeah, I follow you.
Speaker:And so that's why being present and taking
the next step is where each one of us
Speaker:becomes shapeshifters to create
Speaker:form out of formlessness.
Speaker:And we do it with our own lives and
that becomes the contribution of
Speaker:our solar essence, our life force.
Speaker:In this very high,
Speaker:pure... to the best of our ability,
Speaker:because we're always working
with the things we're working
Speaker:with; that being human says,
Speaker:"you have a body, you have
a reality, you have family,
Speaker:you've got relationships."
And not everyone is on the
same page and our bodies
Speaker:aren't always on the same page with
Speaker:what we desire.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:So I feel like encouraging people to
Speaker:use all the tools in their tool bag
Speaker:and a hefty dose of,
Speaker:"I don't know." Just like a big
open space for I don't know,
Speaker:but in that I don't know,
Speaker:like I wake up in the morning
sometimes and I'll just...
Speaker:might know that I've got
some inner dichotomy and
Speaker:challenges going on. And some
of my new prayers... "Okay,
Speaker:I'll take a miracle
today, dealer's choice.".
Speaker:Yeah, I like that. "You
choose, but I would like one.".
Speaker:But all day, however you
want to give it to me.
Speaker:And then I don't attach in my
mind what that miracle has to be.
Speaker:And inevitably it comes and
it can be in such subtle ways,
Speaker:it can be in big ways, it can be in
profound ways, it can be in ordinary ways,
Speaker:but it's still a miracle.
Speaker:Yeah. I love that. That's knowledge,
wisdom, that we need right now.
Speaker:And I'm curious,
Speaker:looking at this year without stepping
too much into the information,
Speaker:predictive quality,
Speaker:what are some of the energies or big
energies or transits that you see
Speaker:that are helpful for that, helpful
supporting us in that journey?
Speaker:Yeah, I think that is definitely
something to have on your map.
Speaker:So I guess by the time this
airs in February, of course,
Speaker:the big headline news for
that period will be Saturn
Speaker:and Neptune back,
Speaker:or in zero degrees of Aries
meeting up on February 20th.
Speaker:So that is a big storyline
for all of us that is going
Speaker:to translate into something personal.
Speaker:But it feels like, when
we're recording this now,
Speaker:we're really closing out,
Speaker:in our own lives and realities,
Speaker:storylines that hold a lot of grief
in the body and experiences and
Speaker:karmic
Speaker:contracts and soul mandates that are
Speaker:connected structurally,
I'd say, cellularly,
Speaker:to a time that is closing,
not a time we're entering.
Speaker:And so I think Saturn and Neptune...
Speaker:I feel the Saturn in
Aries energy specifically.
Speaker:It's hard for me to know what Neptune
in Aries is going to be like because I
Speaker:just don't. So a lot of times I
just learn as I go, basically.
Speaker:I learn as I go through real life
experience. So I don't really ... I mean,
Speaker:I do feel like Neptune and Aries is
going to be much more around taking...
Speaker:the spiritual frames that we've all
been in are going to require a different
Speaker:kind of action instead of what
Neptune in Aries since: Speaker:has just been this rise in all kinds
of wellness and spirituality stuff
Speaker:online that is a blend of a lot of
different energies that are hard to sift
Speaker:through and don't always contain the
essence of something that feels good.
Speaker:But the Saturn in Aries feels,
Speaker:when we think about that wall
or the structure or limitation,
Speaker:I feel it as an energy of disciplined
Speaker:courage. And I love the
root word of discipline as
Speaker:disciples. So being a
disciple of our own courage,
Speaker:which really translates to being
a disciple of following our heart.
Speaker:The root word of courage
is cor, which is heart.
Speaker:And if I'm saying that
correctly. But yeah,
Speaker:so there's that.
Speaker:And then we've got eclipses in
Speaker:February and I just always feel like-and
in early March-and I always just feel
Speaker:those as these amazing
portals and doorways.
Speaker:And then in April, there's this
big confluence of Aries energy.
Speaker:And that's when I pulled
your chart up and said,
Speaker:"What is happening with
Asia with this? " And
Speaker:I think it's, gosh, I could
pull it up on my phone,
Speaker:but I'm just going to
try to do it by memory.
Speaker:But there's many planets
in Aries at that time.
Speaker:And so that just feels as
if there's rocket fuel,
Speaker:that we're all kind of
coming out of this sluggish
Speaker:year of finishing up. And certainly
here in Western North Carolina,
Speaker:all the things that we have worked with.
Speaker:But it does feel as if that's
this, from the Equinox on,
Speaker:I could say, this energy
of rocket fuel saying,
Speaker:"You ready to be the new
human that your soul said now
Speaker:you're lucky enough to be
here during an epoch change?
Speaker:What a gift that is. How are you going
to courageously move ahead in this very
Speaker:dynamic, pioneering,
assertive, non-aggressive,
Speaker:empowered,
Speaker:standing in the truth of your own fire
kind of a way?" So I'm very curious about
Speaker:that and all of that's happening.
Speaker:And I think that that's going to be a
destiny marker point for you actually with
Speaker:your North Node and Aries. And your Aries
midheaven and your Jupiter in Aries.
Speaker:It just feels... you know,
Speaker:we're all being called to the front
lines because no one's coming to save us.
Speaker:There's no ETs coming to save
us. There's no... I mean,
Speaker:I think that there are.
Speaker:We have lots of friends who are
going to start revealing themselves.
Speaker:And certainly I'm on board with all the
3i/ATLAS stuff right now and not even
Speaker:really knowing what that is,
Speaker:but being very curious around the
codes of ancient wisdom that are being
Speaker:emitted onto the planet. And as
they're emitted onto the planet,
Speaker:they're emitted into our bodies.
Speaker:And that's why our bodies
hold everything we need,
Speaker:not the internet. And even with AI,
Speaker:just as an aside, I think about AI more
Speaker:using this word "alien
intelligence," really is the AI,
Speaker:is the intelligence of the wiring of our
Speaker:body's nervous system as it matches
in coherence to the galactic nervous
Speaker:system.
Speaker:So that Aries energy and April feels
really significant for everyone.
Speaker:And you'd have to dial into each
person's chart for what that is.
Speaker:And then April 26th is definitely
something that I'm paying
Speaker:attention to because I have such a love
for the planet Uranus and the planetary
Speaker:beings connected to Uranus.
And I mean, I love them all.
Speaker:But they're like children: Who's
your favorite? They're not children.
Speaker:They're actually elders, like
beyond elders. I'm their child,
Speaker:but it's like many parents or something.
Speaker:But Uranus goes back into
Gemini on April 26th.
Speaker:And that feels like another kind of
speeding up because that's when it
Speaker:starts in
Speaker:this more open conversation
with Pluto. And so
Speaker:we're going into territory
that is beyond the form of
Speaker:anything we have known. And
we're going to all be receiving
Speaker:information through how
we attune our own channel.
Speaker:And our channel is our body and
our nervous system and our hearts.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Does that make sense?
Speaker:Yeah, I feel that so strongly.
Yeah. And I think for me,
Speaker:especially the last four years
since having my daughter,
Speaker:I feel like I've been in
this masterclass of the body
Speaker:is your teacher, the body is your dom.
You must listen to the body, you know?
Speaker:And yeah, just really, really
seeing so clearly how the heart,
Speaker:my nervous system, like my Soma,
Speaker:that is the channel. That is the guide.
Speaker:And I think we're in this time,
you sort of mentioned it before,
Speaker:where we've been in this huge rise of
Speaker:the wellness industry or just
all the things that are on offer,
Speaker:endless information, endless
paradigms, endless practices.
Speaker:And yet the thing that we really most
need is this connection to ourselves
Speaker:and to our bodies. And I
love that it sounds like,
Speaker:especially with that Aries energy,
Speaker:I'm very much a novice with astrology,
Speaker:but from what I understand with Aries too
being the beginning, that it's like...
Speaker:I think about a baby being born and how
much they're in their bodies and they're
Speaker:like, "Okay,
Speaker:this is my form and this is
what I'm getting used to."
And so I think about that
Speaker:moving into this, I forget
what you called it in Aries.
Speaker:It's just a buildup of a bunch of...
Speaker:Well it's Saturn and Neptune in Aries,
Speaker:the conjunction when they're holding
hands in the sky at zero degrees Aries,
Speaker:that is the most, that is the
beginning point. The Axis Mundi.
Speaker:Aries is the beginning of the zodiacal
Speaker:orientation, the tropical zodiac.
Speaker:It's that beginning point.
Speaker:And it feels like a beginning point for
humanity in a way we've never known it
Speaker:before. And so thinking
about the soma and the body,
Speaker:and we're going to have a lot of fire
and we're moving from earth water
Speaker:in this timeframe into fire and air,
Speaker:which is a very different elemental
quality of expression for each of
Speaker:us. And to anchor,
Speaker:I think about our bodies as
the conduit and the vessel.
Speaker:And I think the thing to
help with that somatic
Speaker:acclimation to these higher frequency
energies is to work with our vessel.
Speaker:And I don't mean in the way that the
wellness influencers want to market a
Speaker:this or a that or a plan.
Speaker:I'm talking about how
are we managing intake
Speaker:of thought forms? How are we
digesting and assimilating?
Speaker:It's a very Mercury Virgo quality of
working with the mind-body aspect of
Speaker:information, which is different than the
Mercury Gemini working with it. But to
Speaker:really... coming back to the wall,
Speaker:what are our boundaries
around time and energy?
Speaker:And really our default conditioning
to patterns of busyness or people
Speaker:pleasing or acceptance or
performative needing to be responded
Speaker:to or seen in a certain way.
Speaker:I'm a real proponent from my own
experience of embracing insecurity.
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:As a way to work with
coming into authenticity,
Speaker:to coming into... that
word's thrown around a lot,
Speaker:but authenticity is an
aspect of individuation,
Speaker:meaning we're individuating
into an expression of
Speaker:self that is as free as
possible of distortions,
Speaker:meaning other people's
projections, our own projections,
Speaker:or distortions of just an
overconsumptive informative reality
Speaker:where more information is going to ...
Speaker:And I actually catch myself.
Speaker:It's like sometimes
I'm in such discomfort.
Speaker:I just want to know the thing that's
going to pull me out of discomfort.
Speaker:Of course. It's so human.
Speaker:It's so human. And yet it's like
grasping at the wind for an anchor.
Speaker:It just doesn't work. And you do it
enough, it's finally like, screw it.
Speaker:But then you catch yourself because
the discomfort just can throw us into
Speaker:a catapult of default conditioning.
Speaker:So I think for everyone
would be really ...: Speaker:especially going into it, leading
into that fiery energy of April,
Speaker:is pay attention to your
default conditioning.
Speaker:I think that's great advice
as a way to orient to your
Speaker:availability to be shapeshifted.
Speaker:Mhmm. And do you get the sense that
with the transformation that's offered,
Speaker:this opportunity that's on offer in
April, that if we lean into that,
Speaker:that going back to that analogy
of going beyond the wall,
Speaker:it's like we're kind of going to be in
new terrain then for the rest of the
Speaker:year?
Speaker:We'll be in new terrain, and
we're really already in that...
Speaker:the new terrain is kind of an
interdimensional blending right now. And
Speaker:one of the things that's coming
to me around the limitation,
Speaker:the wall kind of theme,
Speaker:which I'm so grateful I got that guidance
to use because it's really helpful, is
Speaker:that we're at a choice point.
Speaker:And I did hear an astrologer
who has a lot of wisdom say that
Speaker:this Saturn-Neptune conjunction
hasn't happened in 9,000 years.
Speaker:And so what reality was 9,000
years ago and what it is now, well,
Speaker:we can't even measure that because
of the quality of quantitative
Speaker:sort of frequency increase. But
Speaker:thinking about Saturn is
the things that we ...
Speaker:that fiery energy is going to
move all of us in a direction.
Speaker:And so we want there to be a lot
of spaciousness as opposed to
Speaker:narrowness because the
direction is going to get set.
Speaker:And so if you're still in your default,
Speaker:that fire is setting up
in your default tributary,
Speaker:as opposed to a tributary
that's really taking you into
Speaker:an expanded state of your own autonomy.
Speaker:And I think that's what we all want.
And I think that's part of where,
Speaker:as we stand in our own
individuated autonomy,
Speaker:it continues to work with the
power-over model and we come shoulder to
Speaker:shoulder standing in our autonomy and
we're helping each other in a lateral way,
Speaker:community way.
Speaker:I love that reframe too of Aries
because so often people are like,
Speaker:Aries energy's just out for
itself, but it's actually...
Speaker:Well the outside of Aries is aggressive
and impulsive and egocentric.
Speaker:And the shadow is always available
in all of the archetypes of the sign.
Speaker:And we dance on that continuum. And
Speaker:part of what Saturn does is it takes
us through time, is it matures us.
Speaker:That's how we gain wisdom. I had
to befriend Saturn. I was in my ...
Speaker:I was 35 going to therapy saying,
"I want to know what a goal is,
Speaker:" which is so Saturn because of
my own family of origin history.
Speaker:But to now be out of my second
Saturn return and to feel like I love
Speaker:Saturn, I fricking love Saturn.
Speaker:And not every ...
Speaker:Sometimes Saturn's annoying, but yeah,
Speaker:so it is a reframe. Aries
is the "I am" presence
Speaker:and that feels good to me.
Speaker:Yeah, me too. And I am an Aries
North node though. So I'm like, yes,
Speaker:those energies.
Speaker:And you've got this. Yeah. So
Speaker:I think it's taking you into
really new territory and
Speaker:is part of your I am presence and your
contribution and your forward facing
Speaker:self that has a pioneering
aspect to it, something new.
Speaker:So think about it as a brand new
version of you coming forward.
Speaker:Okay. I'm here for that.
Speaker:And Saturn is moving towards your
mid-heaven. So it's really like you,
Speaker:as you are moving into the latter
part of your 30s and the midlife
Speaker:transits are going to start to
Speaker:have different mandates
and requests for you.
Speaker:It's coming into your authority
and your mastery and the turn
Speaker:of the wheel. We come into our
authority and our mastery. And
Speaker:the state of impermanence
is always fascinating.
Speaker:The ebb and flow of being on top and
then going back down and descending into
Speaker:the underworld and bringing
back up the alchemical gold.
Speaker:And then that's part of the
wave of the Mayan, collectively.
Speaker:Yeah, it's like you get that level of
mastery, then you become a beginner again.
Speaker:Exactly. It's like over and over again.
And that's where Saturn's like, oh,
Speaker:your insecurities back.
You're going back down.
Speaker:You're going back down and we're going
to let you feel some of the ways that you
Speaker:have some new skill development.
Speaker:But I feel like you're coming into
a real time of birthing new parts
Speaker:of you or maybe not even new parts of you,
Speaker:but parts of you that
are now ready to express.
Speaker:Because that's part of the Uranus energy
is the awakening of dormant DNA and
Speaker:maybe Pluto and Aquarius
as well. And yeah.
Speaker:Well, I'm excited. Now
I'm excited for myself.
Speaker:It does sound though between
the end of February and
Speaker:this lineup in April that there's
kind of this time in between those two
Speaker:points of like to get clear.
Speaker:Yeah. I would say when this
airs in February for people,
Speaker:whoever's interested in tuning into that,
Speaker:to just really drop into ... I mean,
Speaker:one really embodied way to do
it is where do I not feel good
Speaker:and where do I want to
feel better? I mean,
Speaker:sometimes it's just what is
the better feeling option?
Speaker:And we think of discomfort as
the not-better feeling option,
Speaker:but discomfort is often the doorway
to the better feeling option.
Speaker:I think we need that reminder a lot.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:It's like our entire edifice
of our culture is built
around avoiding discomfort.
Speaker:Exactly. And that would be,
Speaker:if I could say one thing for the first
three months of this year is do not
Speaker:avoid...or four months or five
months or forever months. Who knows?
Speaker:Don't avoid discomfort,
Speaker:because discomfort is impermanent and
we get very attached to the idea of
Speaker:feeling bad as if we're going
to feel that way forever.
Speaker:But we are inherently
Speaker:malleable. I mean, our bodies,
think about aging. At 63,
Speaker:I feel the same inside,
Speaker:but the physical structure is impermanent.
Speaker:Everything is impermanent. Every state
of being is impermanent every moment.
Speaker:And that's always been a source of
solace to me is this won't last forever.
Speaker:And at the same time saying, "Good
God, when is this going to be over?".
Speaker:Totally. I'm like,
Speaker:"One day it'll all be over," and
I really take solace in that.
Speaker:Yes. So true.
Speaker:So I'm curious,
Speaker:because this is something that I am
always thinking about as someone who does
Speaker:intuitive readings. I now do monthly
intuitive readings for the podcast.
Speaker:I used to do in- person
intuitive readings with people.
Speaker:And it's something I think about
often where you're pulling ...
Speaker:I work with images and metaphors mostly,
Speaker:the feelings that come through metaphors,
Speaker:the information that will be
specific for whoever is hearing it.
Speaker:But I think often about how I receive
these images or these metaphors,
Speaker:for example, the year ahead.
Speaker:I've been doing these year ahead readings
now for seven years and I will get a
Speaker:certain amount of information
around that or a feeling around it.
Speaker:And then I look back on it and I'm like,
okay, here's all of the things... like
Speaker:how that all fits together and I
couldn't have possibly seen it from that
Speaker:perspective. So I think where I'm
going with this is I'm curious,
Speaker:now that 2025 is done,
has wrapped up for us,
Speaker:and we're in 2026, it's like
we know: Speaker:So in what ways is 2026 different from
Speaker:2025? I think that it just a
helpful anchor point of like, okay,
Speaker:I'm anchored in what was,
Speaker:and so how is what we're moving
into in: Speaker:It's going to be so
Speaker:mind-bogglingly different. It's
going to be a very, very fast,
Speaker:accelerated energy.
Speaker:And I know that everyone
in: Speaker:talked about, oh my God, it's already
December. Oh my God, the time is so fast.
Speaker:So the acceleration. And I think that the
Speaker:coding coming from the
electromagnetic field of the solar
Speaker:system that is
Speaker:receiving new input is
Speaker:translating to a much faster energy.
Speaker:And 2026 where I almost feel it like
Speaker:we're so wired...
Speaker:I feel like 2025 was such a
culmination of the need to know,
Speaker:and the need to make a plan.
And it just, in the collapse,
Speaker:nothing went according to plan. And
the collapse isn't over, obviously.
Speaker:But in that, nothing
went according to plan.
Speaker:So what I really feel like for the
energy in: Speaker:thought, word,
Speaker:and deed happening as an
impulse of knowing all at
Speaker:once, where we're not going, "What am
I going to do and who am I going to be?
Speaker:And what is the strategy to
get there?" It feels more
Speaker:like strategic instinctive action.
Speaker:That's what I am really
feeling for: Speaker:being able to...
Speaker:and it's really about living so in
the now, that what you need to know,
Speaker:when you need to know
it happens as it arises,
Speaker:not a moment too soon
or a moment too late,
Speaker:which is about being in
presence with a capital P.
Speaker:And I talk about it all
the time in the sense that
Speaker:the day that this comes out and somebody
listens to it is the present moment and
Speaker:we're recording it in December
and that's the present moment.
Speaker:And what is the present moment anyway
when it all happens all at once?
Speaker:And so I think about our
relationship to time changing.
Speaker:And I know that I'm releasing
some attachment to linear time
Speaker:and opening up into a more
expanded non-ordinary time where
Speaker:everything is happening at once,
Speaker:meaning I can meet aspects of
myself that don't require the same
Speaker:arduousness of unpacking parts of layered
Speaker:trauma conditioning.
Speaker:And not that that won't continue because
we're human and there's always more to
Speaker:be revealed,
Speaker:but I just feel 2026 as being fast
Speaker:and
Speaker:that we are going to be
reminded over and over and over,
Speaker:like we're going to come up against
our own mental concepts of known versus
Speaker:unknown, but even more than that,
Speaker:we're going to come up against
our awareness of known versus the
Speaker:unknowable.
Speaker:And there's a big difference between
the unknown and the unknowable.
Speaker:And I feel like they're going to be
hanging out and we're over here in the
Speaker:third part of that triangle
of what we want to be the
Speaker:known.
Speaker:And I think that's something in 2026 that
we're all going to be encountering the
Speaker:mystery from the frame
of, I don't freaking know.
Speaker:Yeah. And I can't know.
Speaker:And I can't know. And
honestly, as I have aged,
Speaker:I find my nervous system
is far more relaxed when
Speaker:I am in the unknown and/or
leaning even further towards
Speaker:the unknowable. When I lean
over here to the known,
Speaker:my anxiety spikes.
Speaker:And so I would really encourage people
to be aware of your spike in anxiety or
Speaker:spike in discomfort or anxiety or fear and
Speaker:your attachment to needing to know.
Speaker:And if you can find a way to relax into
the mystery and pray for a miracle,
Speaker:dealer's choice.
Speaker:Yeah. You were telling me before
we started that, you're like,
Speaker:"Some mornings I just am like, I need a
miracle today, but it's dealer's choice,
Speaker:whatever you want to send me.".
Speaker:Yeah. And release...
Speaker:a key thing in that would be to
release attachment to the how,
Speaker:meaning you can have your
desires. Of course, we're human.
Speaker:We're going to want ... I have
desires, I have intentions,
Speaker:I have things that I want to experience
and express in the best possible
Speaker:way. And where I get locked is when I
think I'm also in charge of the how,
Speaker:how that's going to happen. So I say,
Speaker:hold those very human desires
of longing and love and
Speaker:co-creative whatever we want,
but to let spirit, the mystery,
Speaker:be in charge of the how.
Speaker:And that is where miracles and
grace and ease and flow come from
Speaker:is not being in charge of the how,
Speaker:which does not mean that we are
still not the captain of our ship.
Speaker:You're not giving up your power,
you're actually increasing your power.
Speaker:I just got such a visual of like literally
navigating a ship by the stars at
Speaker:night. It's like this is still
your ship that you're navigating,
Speaker:but you're not just, I don't know what,
Speaker:trying to rely on only your
own life experience or knowhow.
Speaker:It's like you're looking to the stars.
Speaker:Yeah. And be able to think
of the planets as living
Speaker:entities that express through
Speaker:our awareness and have
language and desires and
Speaker:octaves of expression. Again,
Speaker:not happening out there to hear,
but... the planets are out there,
Speaker:but their voice comes
through us, not to us.
Speaker:Hmmm. That's beautiful.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I love that distinction. And
I also think we so often,
Speaker:especially in the more like pop astrology
realms, we talk about Saturn this,
Speaker:Jupiter, this, without actually
having that relationship. Or even,
Speaker:for myself in the past, I've
caught myself and been like, "Asia,
Speaker:these are literal huge planetary bodies in
Speaker:the solar system in which you
live." They're not just some mental
Speaker:construct or archetype.
Speaker:This is a literal planet that is
Speaker:interacting with your planet
is interacting with your body,
Speaker:that you're a part of that field,
you're a part of that constellation.
Speaker:In such a nuanced way with infinite,
Speaker:and I mean infinite number of
possibilities and expressions.
Speaker:And in my 30s, pre-internet,
Speaker:I made a conscious decision
and I was raising kids too.
Speaker:So it was conscious and
necessary in a lot of ways,
Speaker:but I always knew what
transits were happening,
Speaker:but I stopped reading my books
and specifically to learn
Speaker:how-especially the outer planets,
Speaker:because that's always been my
orientation to the evolutionary arc of
Speaker:development-but
Speaker:how do they express through my daily
reality and the weather and people and
Speaker:energy.
Speaker:So I can read in the field
and know who's present,
Speaker:whether it's Neptune or Mercury
or Uranus or in the airport,
Speaker:I will often entertain myself by people
walking by. I'm like, "Oh my God,
Speaker:that person either is Pisces rising,
they've got Neptune on the ascendant,
Speaker:or what is happening?" But
I put the books away so that
Speaker:the planets could begin to speak to me
through the field and teach me what they
Speaker:felt like, not what I thought about them.
Speaker:So now I know how in my readings
when people talk, I'm like, "Oh,
Speaker:of course I know who's talking."
And then I look at the ...
Speaker:I don't read the chart, I read the field,
Speaker:and then the chart is just the
map to help me read the field.
Speaker:I love that framing.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Okay. So now I have to ask you
then, what are your big three then?
Speaker:What's your Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto?
Speaker:Okay. And again, generational.
Uranus is in Leo,
Speaker:late Leo. My Neptune is in Scorpio,
Speaker:and my Pluto is in Virgo. So I'm
the Pluto and Virgo generation.
Speaker:It's all generational, but those
are my big transpersonal three.
Speaker:Yeah. And you told me literally right
before we recorded and now I'm like,
Speaker:can I remember what my three
are? So I'm 38 right now.
Speaker:Do you want me to tell you?
Speaker:Yeah. Do you want me to say-
Can you remind me? Yeah.
Speaker:And your big three. Yes,
please remind me. Yes.
Speaker:Your big three are Uranus and
Sage, Neptune and Capricorn, Pluto,
Speaker:and Scorpio.
Speaker:Okay. So that's who we're working with.
Speaker:That's the big three who's
in this room right now.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Those are the archetypal
transpersonal evolutionary heavy
Speaker:hitters that really are the
Speaker:architects of deep change in
our lives. Brilliant. Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. If you are someone who maybe you're
just getting started with astrology,
Speaker:you aren't even familiar,
Speaker:maybe with the different associations
with the different planets,
Speaker:how would you suggest going about
creating these kinds of relationships?
Speaker:So
Speaker:I would say there's some
really good teachers out there.
Speaker:I don't think that I am a teacher
of that kind of astrology,
Speaker:but there are some really good teachers
out there who have a lot of wisdom where
Speaker:you could learn the basics or I'm
going to call it the old fashioned
Speaker:way since I learned at an unlikely time,
Speaker:started at an unlikely time in an unlikely
place in: Speaker:Is follow your passion.
There's so much content,
Speaker:and so that creates this frame
of like, I need to know more,
Speaker:I need to know more, which
increases our insecurity.
Speaker:And I know that story well because
I lived that for a long time because
Speaker:I have had mentors, but
I'm very self-taught,
Speaker:but I'm taught through direct revelation.
Speaker:I have a very direct
revelatory interaction.
Speaker:So the planets have taught
me through the field,
Speaker:but the content is so
massive at this point.
Speaker:I think the best way to learn is to learn
the basics of the scaffolding of the
Speaker:chart, the houses, planets, and science,
Speaker:and simply follow your passion
because I don't feel like you have to
Speaker:learn astrology. Unfortunately,
Speaker:that's part of the culture now is I
know a little, so let me hang a shingle,
Speaker:learn it to know thyself.
Speaker:I spent 15 or 18 years
Speaker:learning before I ever did
readings for the public.
Speaker:And I was also at a time of life where
I actually never started learning to
Speaker:become an astrologer and
do this work as my call.
Speaker:I didn't know then that it was my calling.
Speaker:I only knew that I was obsessed with
knowing thyself and healing myself
Speaker:and learning about how that
worked and remembering.
Speaker:But yeah, I would say for people
to follow their passion and then
Speaker:give themselves time To integrate
it. And so that would mean,
Speaker:and it's so hard. We're so compulsive
with our phones. It's really hard.
Speaker:And I get that. And so I'm
not advocating do that,
Speaker:but to give yourself
some intentional time to
Speaker:metabolize what you're learning through
looking at it through the lens of your
Speaker:life.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Does that make sense?
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. Really you
can look at your chart,
Speaker:you can look at what people
are saying about things,
Speaker:but then to really like to then turn
everything off and step into your
Speaker:experience.
Speaker:And I think in some ways what
helps me is looking back a
Speaker:little bit too after something
passes. 100%. And being like, okay,
Speaker:this is what I read about that,
but this is actually what I expect.
Speaker:That is exactly ... Oh my God,
Asia, that is exactly right.
Speaker:Because if I'm being really honest,
Speaker:I feel like most of the
time, even with my own chart,
Speaker:until it actually starts to reveal itself,
Speaker:I don't know. And I always have,
I'll just be really honest here.
Speaker:It's like even after doing many,
many thousands of readings,
Speaker:there's always this little slight
bit of insecurity where I'm like,
Speaker:I have no idea. I don't
know. I don't know.
Speaker:But the minute somebody starts talking,
it's as if there's a click in my brain,
Speaker:but I'm also receiving in a way. But
Speaker:yeah, I think that it's really hard to ...
Speaker:When we try to use our brains
to know, it's a lockup.
Speaker:And so that learning from your experience
and in hindsight, like what you said,
Speaker:that is a great way to go,
"Oh, that's what happened."
Speaker:And then what that I hope can do
for the people who are listening,
Speaker:if you can approach it like that is to ...
Speaker:I call it rear view mirror reflection.
Speaker:And it helps me see patterns of
development for myself. I do it,
Speaker:like my evolving patterns of
development so that when something's
Speaker:happening,
Speaker:I can place it inside a pattern
recognition flow to help me say,
Speaker:"Oh, okay. I left a relationship
eight years ago." Well, part of that,
Speaker:or seven and a half years ago,
Speaker:that part of that pattern recognition
was recognizing a pattern from a
Speaker:past scenario where I
linked them and said, "Oh,
Speaker:Uranus just opened a door for me.
I think I better go through this.
Speaker:I don't want to, but I have to.
Speaker:".
Speaker:And so that's how we evolve
through discomfort as we ...
Speaker:And this is where the Aries
energy in April, I think,
Speaker:is going to give us all
a big boost of courage to
Speaker:work in a new way so that we can
Speaker:feel ...
Speaker:My courage doesn't come
from not being afraid.
Speaker:My courage comes from
being massively afraid of
Speaker:certain things just like anybody else.
Speaker:But recognizing the thread of pattern,
Speaker:if I'm here to take myself into
the fullest experience possible,
Speaker:I inevitably will use that
courage in spite of my fear to
Speaker:move myself forward.
Speaker:So yeah, on that note of the
rear view mirror, I'm curious,
Speaker:you mentioned Three Eye Atlas,
Speaker:and I didn't know what this was
before we hung out to do this podcast.
Speaker:And so I'm curious if you could mention
what that is and when that kind of went
Speaker:down, because maybe that would be a good
rear view moment for people to get that
Speaker:orientation.
Speaker:Themselves. Okay, very good.
Speaker:So Three Eye Atlas is an object.
Speaker:Three is the third eye
interstellar object.
Speaker:It was first seen in July of 2025.
Speaker:I think it was an observe, I
don't know what it's called,
Speaker:but I think it was in Spain where
they're going to observe that or see that
Speaker:called Atlas, so named for the
place where it was first seen.
Speaker:I'm pretty sure you can fact check me,
Speaker:but it was first thought to be a comet,
Speaker:still may have some
properties of the comet, but
Speaker:it's the third interstellar,
Speaker:meaning the third recorded object that
has come in from outside of our solar
Speaker:system.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:But it has some properties
to it that are unusual.
Speaker:So in the spiritual,
mystical, astrological, and
even scientific community,
Speaker:there's a lot of curiosity about what
this is because it is organic matter.
Speaker:And
Speaker:part of what's so curious
about it is that on,
Speaker:if I can remember this
correctly, on October 3rd,
Speaker:it passed by Mars. Now
we're talking light years,
Speaker:not like your neighbor's house
down the street or something,
Speaker:but it passed by Mars, I'm
pretty sure on October 3rd.
Speaker:And then it made its closest
past to the sun. It was like,
Speaker:here's the earth and here's the
sun, and then it was behind the sun.
Speaker:So that was on October 31st,
Speaker:so received the codes
and infused the code.
Speaker:And it also infused plasma codes.
Speaker:I'm really simplifying this
Speaker:in a way where we've been
having all these solar flares.
Speaker:So there's these emissions of
energy that the earth and all of
Speaker:what's happening with the
weather and different things,
Speaker:but our bodies are receiving this
as well. Then on November 3rd,
Speaker:it passed by Venus. And
then on December 19th,
Speaker:it makes its closest past to earth.
Speaker:And then in March, I can't
remember the date in March.
Speaker:For some reason, I want to say March 11th,
Speaker:but that might be when Jupiter goes
direct, but it's in, I think it's March,
Speaker:where it then makes its
last pass by a planet by
Speaker:Jupiter before it leaves our solar
system. And so on December 19th,
Speaker:which is the new moon in Sagittarius
at 28 degrees Sagittarius,
Speaker:28 degrees sage is the degree of
the galactic center of our solar
Speaker:system.
Speaker:And I just think about that
galactic center and then
Speaker:opening us up into the
mystery of infinity.
Speaker:So it feels as if we are receiving
something that everyone will
Speaker:receive. Now, not everyone's going
to be down with going, "Yeah,
Speaker:I received something." But I would say,
"What have you noticed about your life,
Speaker:about your awareness about the breaking
open, the breaking part of the breaking
Speaker:through?" Because I think
it's going to be really,
Speaker:really significant because one of
the things that I'm fascinated by,
Speaker:and there's tons of content out
there, but the truth is no one knows.
Speaker:I don't know, no one knows. But supposedly
Speaker:it's coming from the
origin point of everything.
Speaker:It is coming from an ancient ...
It's a rock flying through space,
Speaker:but it's got plasma and
it's changing shape.
Speaker:And supposedly it contains
consciousness from other
Speaker:areas beyond our known
reality that go to the
Speaker:origin of everything,
like ancient, ancient,
Speaker:ancient galactic wisdom,
Speaker:unknown to anyone ever
before as if it is ...
Speaker:But it also feels, as I'm saying
this, like it's on a reconnaissance.
Speaker:It's also checking things out.
Speaker:And so while it's not a spaceship
or a craft or got beings on it,
Speaker:it's got consciousness.
Speaker:So there's an awareness that
there is consciousness to it
Speaker:And comets don't typically
have consciousness.
Speaker:That's fascinating.
Speaker:And so what is that going to do to the
evolution of human consciousness for all
Speaker:of us in 2026 so people can look at that?
Speaker:Yeah. And in looking at a rear view mirror
moment when you talked about it being
Speaker:closest to us on December 19th,
we're filming this right now,
Speaker:we're coming up on it. Exactly. So
we don't know, but when we look back,
Speaker:but from when this airs, when
people are listening to this,
Speaker:they can look back and be like, okay,
Speaker:what went on for me around the solstice?
Speaker:What was there like a revelation
or opening in my awareness,
Speaker:a shift in my consciousness?
Speaker:Or change in your experience or what
started to show up that really asked you
Speaker:... I'm a Taurus,
Speaker:so I always think about things
from a very practical reality of
Speaker:my lived experience because I've always
said spiritual wisdom is useless unless
Speaker:you can actually embody it and
use it to move your life forward.
Speaker:It's not enough to just hang out
in it. You have to work with it.
Speaker:And so I would say to
people, what has changed in,
Speaker:or how have you,
Speaker:maybe how did your compass
get reset so that that
Speaker:synchronistic magic of the
universe started to bring you in
Speaker:coherence in your physical reality with
opportunities to choose differently,
Speaker:drastically differently,
subliminally differently,
Speaker:ordinarily differently
in every way possible.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Does that make sense?
Speaker:Yeah, that's what it is,
right? Opportunities to.
Speaker:Choose differently. Yeah.
And I mean, I am very
Speaker:curious and I can feel
like I have actually ...
Speaker:The reason I really believe
it has consciousness is
because I have been having a
Speaker:visceral experience of waves of
energy that I've never felt before
Speaker:since ... Yoranis went into Gemini,
Speaker:but also since this discovery in July,
Speaker:there is lots of great content about this.
Speaker:I'll just name some people I've
listened to, Kelly Kolodny,
Speaker:Pam Gregory has talked about it.
There's many people talking about it.
Speaker:So many people,
Speaker:Stefan Burns is a geophysicist who's
talking about the science of it.
Speaker:But yeah,
Speaker:that's a part of the mystery that I'm
very excited about right now in terms of
Speaker:my personal reality, like saying
I'm ready for some shifts,
Speaker:but I'm also feeling
Speaker:like anxiety and nervousness
because I'm a Taurus.
Speaker:This doesn't seem that
stable. The changes.
Speaker:Tourist's.
Speaker:Favorite thing.
Speaker:I have a tourist moon,
so I get that. And yeah,
Speaker:I'm curious to just tie this into
the rest of the year because I had
Speaker:asked you before we started,
I was like, "Okay, well,
Speaker:so what about the rest of the year?"
And we had touched on these themes
Speaker:of the unknowable, approaching
the mystery not knowing.
Speaker:And so I feel like this ties into what
you said to me about the rest of the year
Speaker:when I was like, "Well, what about the
rest of the year, Liz?" Should I answer.
Speaker:The way I answered? Yeah. Well,
what about the rest of the year?
Speaker:I haven't looked. I don't know. I
have no clue. I haven't tuned in.
Speaker:I don't tune in in that way. I feel like,
Speaker:and I think I will own this as my wiring,
Speaker:but I like to be surprised.
Speaker:I'm somebody where I can remember
in my former partnership,
Speaker:she would buy play tickets or something,
and I wouldn't want to know anything.
Speaker:I would just want to go to the play and
let the play happen and know zero about
Speaker:it. I love my moon and sage, loves, loves,
Speaker:loves to go into experiences
where I don't know anyone.
Speaker:I have no idea what's going to happen,
Speaker:and that's kind of how
I feel about the year.
Speaker:I.
Speaker:Don't know.
Speaker:Yeah. Well, it sounds like there's
also a lot that is, as you're saying,
Speaker:unknowable. So we know the most
recent energies we've been in,
Speaker:we can look at the energies that
we're right about to move into.
Speaker:And beyond that, there is a
lot that's dependent on our.
Speaker:Choices. And the thing is astrology,
Speaker:there's always something happening
and there's always, "Oh my God,
Speaker:it's Mercury Retrograde. Oh my
God, it's an eclipse. Oh my God,
Speaker:Mars is square Saturn. Oh my God. Oh
my God." And we can live in that way,
Speaker:but the astrology is always happening.
Speaker:And I've just learned, I'm not
going to dodge your duck. Come on,
Speaker:just let it happen. But yeah,
Speaker:that's kind of how I think I
approached the second half of ...
Speaker:I actually haven't gone beyond
Uranus going into Gemini. I feel so
Speaker:almost like, okay, let's just see.
Speaker:And I can't get beyond that. It.
Speaker:Seems like big things are happening
in this first quarter of the year that
Speaker:we'll find the rest of it.
Speaker:And I think the astrology weather
is always available to us,
Speaker:but the biggest piece of advice I
would give for this moment in time is
Speaker:the weather is the weather is
the weather. It's happening,
Speaker:but when we match the
weather that is ahead
Speaker:with the dimensional upgrade that
the whole planet and the whole
Speaker:solar system is well underway in,
Speaker:it's really impossible.
Speaker:And it almost feels
irresponsible for me to say,
Speaker:look out for this because
everyone's going to approach the
Speaker:weather ahead from their perspective.
Speaker:And our perspective is the lens
through which we see everything.
Speaker:And that is undergoing a
massive lens cleanse right now.
Speaker:And so it's hard to say what I see now,
Speaker:is my lens still needing cleansing.
Speaker:And so I might not be seeing clearly
that feels like the Neptune fog of 29
Speaker:degrees Pisces as we're recording this of
Speaker:I'm in liminal land. I'm
hanging out at that wall.
Speaker:I'm about to go into the fairy realm.
Speaker:I don't know what I'm going
to discover there. Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. And we've touched on this, I think,
Speaker:a good bit throughout
this, but I'm curious,
Speaker:one of the last questions I had for
you was, how do you see this year,
Speaker:this movement that we're in
right now fitting into the larger
Speaker:soul patterns that are at
play on our planet in this
Speaker:epoch? It's.
Speaker:Huge. How do I see the
larger soul pattern?
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:I'm curious in how this year is
fitting into that longer story.
Speaker:And I didn't know this about you
before I wrote the question down,
Speaker:but it feels even more pertinent with
you naming that Uranus and Neptune and
Speaker:Pluto are for you more telling
more- They're the big three. Yeah,
Speaker:they're the big three for you.
Speaker:And those are these planets with these
really long cycles and these long
Speaker:generational journeys.
Speaker:I'm curious what you see as sort
of this generational or soul
Speaker:larger program or pattern that
the arc that we're in right now.
Speaker:Yeah. Wow.
Speaker:I feel like 2012 was
such a kind of time stamp
Speaker:that has brought us to
this current moment.
Speaker:And when we think about
these longer cycles that
Speaker:honestly take us into, for me,
Speaker:links to the immortal ineffable,
Speaker:infinite nature of
existence.That's my playground.
Speaker:But if we can find comfort
in releasing urgency,
Speaker:because everything is so urgent
right now as part of the collapse,
Speaker:and that urgency has a place.
Speaker:And also if we can be in this space
of duality of holding that urgency and
Speaker:also holding this sense
of the infinite nature of
Speaker:time, it's like we're being
rearranged at a molecular level,
Speaker:our bodies. And that's why the latter,
Speaker:that's why for the last
number of years, I mean,
Speaker:even in as we were entering 2020,
Speaker:I was saying in my readings a lot,
wow, based on my pattern recognition,
Speaker:it feels like we're reincarnating
without dropping the body,
Speaker:that we have our memories,
we have our experiences,
Speaker:but we're still in the same vessel,
Speaker:but we have to move
into a new incarnation.
Speaker:And I think 2026 is the beginning
of the new incarnation in
Speaker:a fully formed way and fully
formed meaning like a newborn.
Speaker:Wow, that feels really profound.
And I really resonate with
Speaker:that turning point of
: Speaker:it was like a whole new thing
started, a whole new existence.
Speaker:And I've been also feeling
this sense of like, yeah,
Speaker:whatever it was that was
starting around then,
Speaker:it's like reaching some sort of
turning point apex culmination
Speaker:beginning again.
Speaker:Now. It's like,
Speaker:who do you want to be now as we
are in: Speaker:February? Who do you want to be?
Who have you been longing to be?
Speaker:I feel like that's how I've been orienting
to the Saturn Neptune and Pisces is
Speaker:really tuning into my longings
and also the longings that hold a
Speaker:lot of grief and the longings of whatever,
Speaker:the way that life takes us there.
Speaker:But yeah,
Speaker:the soul story is changing
and which means the
Speaker:form story is changing.
Speaker:And I think we all need
to leave a lot of room
Speaker:in our personal realities to
Speaker:dial in back to Saturn,
back to discipline.
Speaker:What do we want to be a
disciple of? And for me,
Speaker:I want to be a disciple of love
and compassion and care for my
Speaker:community, for everyone I encounter.
Speaker:That is my discipleship is for
me. And I know that from my chart,
Speaker:so that takes me into ...
Speaker:I've kind of recommitted
back to one-to-one readings,
Speaker:which I've never left that, but
I've been through so much stuff.
Speaker:Now I'm in this recommitment is
just really people taking time to do
Speaker:inner work,
Speaker:whether it's one-on-one with a really
good astrology reading or a really good
Speaker:anything kind of anything where
you can turn the dial to you
Speaker:specifically,
Speaker:because you specifically
is the collective.
Speaker:And so we are always going out
there to dial the collective,
Speaker:but I'm the collective, you're the
collective. And when we all meet from that
Speaker:discippleship place,
Speaker:then we're working in harmony for
the collective from a place of love,
Speaker:which is what we're moving into
is the transcendent power of love.
Speaker:That's what the new paradigm
is going to be based in.
Speaker:And I hope I see it in my lifetime.
Speaker:Yeah, I hope so too.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:We're here for the shifting.
Speaker:Totally.
Speaker:And we're a part of that. And yeah,
Speaker:everything that you said
about that discipleship,
Speaker:like what is your discipleship that's
so much at the heart of ... Yeah,
Speaker:my journey is asking that question and.
Speaker:This podcast- And I'm waiting to see it.
I'm just going to go ahead and be it.
Speaker:Yeah. Right. Yeah. And that's
where very courage comes in.
Speaker:So we keep weaving all ...
It's like DNA. We're really,
Speaker:we're moving into a new activation of DNA
Speaker:that people want to call junk
DNA, but that is not junk DNA.
Speaker:It is very galactic and
has a very important and
Speaker:impactful purpose.
Speaker:And I think that we all as volunteers
to be here on the planet now,
Speaker:this is a place of mastery. So
it's no easy feat to say, "Yeah,
Speaker:I want to be in limitation.".
Speaker:Yeah, I'll sign up for
that for whatever reason.
Speaker:And yet there's so much beauty in
the experience of limitation and
Speaker:I-.
Speaker:Creative constraints of existence.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So that's how I'll get the most out of
it for the betterment of our collective
Speaker:experience.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Well, thank you so much,
Liz, for being here,
Speaker:for giving us this read
into the big energies,
Speaker:weather that we're
moving through right now,
Speaker:the portals really that are
opening for us in this year.
Speaker:I really appreciate your visioning,
Speaker:you're channeling everything that
you are bringing in. And yeah,
Speaker:I'm curious what you have going on,
Speaker:how people could connect to you if
people are listening and being like,
Speaker:"This person I want to connect more with.
I'm really feeling and receiving this.
Speaker:" How would people do that?
Speaker:Okay. Well,
Speaker:I will say I'm not on social media
and haven't been for many years
Speaker:on there, but I just don't have
the energy or the bandwidth.
Speaker:I don't know if I'll
be back. So my website,
Speaker:lizgun.net is a great way to
contact me. I will say, as you know,
Speaker:I'm very relational. I like
relationships, I like connection.
Speaker:So I don't have online scheduling.
It's like, email me, text me.
Speaker:I'm very personal in that way. And
Speaker:when I knew you were going to
ask me what I have going on,
Speaker:my first thought was like, "I don't know.
Speaker:" But I will say what I always have
going on is my one-to-one readings.
Speaker:So that is a great way to zoom in
and see what does it mean for you.
Speaker:And I just sent out something to
my client list about looking at
Speaker:astrology as a giant clock
and understanding from a
galactics perspective what
Speaker:time it is for you. So a reading
would be a great time to say,
Speaker:"What time is it for me?
" In a very dialed in
Speaker:esoteric and practical way.
Speaker:I do have a year long mentoring experience
Speaker:that's on my website called Gateway to
the Mystical Path that's a 24 session
Speaker:experience over a year's time.
Speaker:And it's not something at this point
that with the reading requests that I
Speaker:can do as my full-time
work, it's also really deep.
Speaker:So I'm opening that back up on the Equinox
Speaker:For six to eight people
because it's every other week,
Speaker:so that would be something
people could explore.
Speaker:So I just really received
this as a transmission the
Speaker:other day as a small group gathering.
Speaker:And the way I think I would
say now as an offering is
Speaker:if anybody wanted to host
this on Zoom or in person,
Speaker:if you're in the Southeast in
person, but on Zoom otherwise,
Speaker:I really love doing these very
organic small group gatherings.
Speaker:So this would be,
Speaker:the way that I wrote it was the living
wisdom of the astrology for: Speaker:uncharted territory. We
all need guides, signposts,
Speaker:and accompass reset for what awaits
each of us in this unfamiliar cosmic
Speaker:landscape. No doubt you feel deeply
the karmic closure of natural endings,
Speaker:grief, letting go,
Speaker:and the somatic awareness of what the
evolutionary collapse we are living
Speaker:through feels like in your body.
Speaker:What if the planets and stars moving
through the heavens were galactic
Speaker:neurotransmitters sending signals
pertaining directly to you?
Speaker:How might you respond to
life, new choices, challenges,
Speaker:and the potential for
joy with greater trust?
Speaker:What if the body held the codes for
understanding the messages each planet
Speaker:transmitted like keys unlocking
a doorway into a new reality?
Speaker:How might you release fear and participate
more fully with your one wild and
Speaker:precious life?
Speaker:So it's really about joining a discussion
or creating an opportunity for a
Speaker:discussion in a small group way to
talk about these. What is it like?
Speaker:What is Saturn feeling like in your
body? And then often in a small group,
Speaker:I'll have people's charts and I'll do a
Q&A based on this content and I'll offer
Speaker:channeled messages from their chart.
Speaker:Oh, that's brilliant.
Speaker:Sorry I had to read that, but
I just did it and I was like,
Speaker:"What did I just say I was
going to do? " Awesome. Yeah.
Speaker:So those are my offerings. It's basically
my one-on-one work, the mentoring,
Speaker:and then opening back up to small groups
in whatever way that can look like.
Speaker:Yeah. Awesome. Liz, thank
you so much for being here.
Speaker:Thank you for everything
that you shared. And yeah,
Speaker:I'm really grateful for your
guidance and your wisdom,
Speaker:your wisdom in this world.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:And I'm so happy to be on
your platform and offering
Speaker:this to the people that
love you. Thank you.
Speaker:Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much, Liz.
Speaker:And thank you to everyone
who's been listening.
Speaker:I'm so grateful for your presence here.
Speaker:So grateful for all the ways now in
which you've walked with me for almost a
Speaker:year in this podcast.
Speaker:We're coming up on the one-year
anniversary of this podcast.
Speaker:If you have not yet left a
rating or review, it would
just mean the world to me.
Speaker:It would be one of the biggest
blessings if you did that.
Speaker:If you loved this episode,
I'd love to hear about it.
Speaker:You can leave me a voice
message over on my website,
Speaker:asiasular.com/remember. And I hope
that what we talked about today,
Speaker:the energies,
Speaker:the weather that we've explored that
we're walking into for: Speaker:helps you in your evolution,
in your unfolding,
Speaker:and in remembering that most important
thing of all, why you're here.
