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129: ‘What We Do in the Shadows’, with Jeff Echols
Episode 12912th September 2023 • TRXL • Evan Troxel
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Jeff Echols of Shadow Partners joins the podcast to talk about the larger topic of innovation in the built environment and how it should focus on outcomes for people, whether it's employees, clients, or inhabitants of buildings. We also talk about how technology and tools are augmenting designers to solve problems to ultimately achieve those outcomes, how leaders should focus on creating a culture of innovation to address pain points and set themselves apart from commoditization in the industry, and more.

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