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What Is Mix Minus
Episode 527th February 2024 • Podcast Answers • LehmanCreations
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In this episode I talk about what mix minus is and when you should use it, and how to use it for your pod cast

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Welcome to podcast answers of the show where I help you start and grow your podcast answering

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any podcasting questions along the way. Guys, it's been so long since I've been here. It

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feels like forever, but I was away on a trip with my wife for some church related stuff.

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And I just did not take any of the extra equipment with me to do podcasts. So it was a vacation

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for us. So we definitely did that. We vacationed is what we did. So guys, so I've been recording

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video and audio for the conference that we were at for the church. It's one of the things

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that I do on the side as well, not just podcasting, but also talking with doing any sort of live

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video production or recording or anything like that. So that's where I've been. And if

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you want to hire me, I can record your conference too. You can contact me at podcastanswers.com/contact.

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And I would love to help you out with any recording or any broadcasting that you want to do, because

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again, that's something that I really just enjoy doing. So what else have I been doing?

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So I recently made a reel. I talked a lot about it, about community in one of the previous

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episodes of podcast answers. But I just recently made an Instagram reel talking about community

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in different ways that you can build community. And so if you want to check that out, you

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can go to podcastanswers.com/igcommunityreel, I G community R E E L or scan the QR code

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that's on the screen right now, because that'll get you right to the reel. But I was talking

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a little bit about I was talking about how to certain apps that you can use to create

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communities with your podcast. And it's definitely worth a check out. So if you get a chance,

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go to podcastanswers.com/igcommunityreel. And that'll talk about that's where I'm talking

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about building a community, how to build a community for your show. So guys, today, we

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are talking about Mix Minus, what it is, and how to use it, why would you would even need

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it? So what is Mix Minus? Mix Minus is something exactly what it sounds, the Mix Minus. So

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you would use it when you have a audio coming in from a computer, and you're also sending

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audio back out to that computer. So for instance, if you had a guest on Zoom or Skype or any

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really any video conferencing software, because you don't want the audio that's coming in

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from their channel. So, you know, for instance, if I'm a guest and I'm talking, we don't

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want my audio to come into the computer, or to the mixing board that's recording the

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audio and then sending back out to myself. It's going to create what's called slapback.

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A lot of people call it feedback or, you know, or just kind of like an echo, but it's really

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called slapback. So essentially, it's me, if I was a guest talking and hearing myself

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back with a slight delay, because again, what happens is you're sending, as a guest, I'm

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talking and it comes into my mixer board and then back out to myself because it's that

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two-way audio. And so this is Mix Minus is essentially what you're going to be using

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to get rid of that. So on a traditional board, and I'm going to say traditional because a lot

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of the newer boards like the Roadcaster Pro, which I'm using right now have Mix Minus built

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in to it. So on a traditional board, you're going to basically send the output signal that

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you're sending back to the computer that has the video software on it. You are going to

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not send the main mix or everything but themselves. So how you would do that is

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traditionally you would use an auxiliary channel on the board. And so each channel,

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like each slider would have an auxiliary send like auxiliary one, two, three, whatever. And

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on the back of your board, you plug auxiliary out into your video computer that's doing the video

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chat or the audio chat or whatever. And so that's what you're sending to them. And so what you do

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is you turn on each channel, you turn up the audio, you turn up the auxiliary send, except for the

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channel that's coming in. So if I'm talking on channel one on my mixer board and I have my guests

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audio coming into channel two, and then I have the music on channel three or whatever that it is,

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on channel one, I turn up auxiliary to send out my channel one to that auxiliary mix.

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I skip channel two because I don't want their audio to go back to themselves because again,

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it's going to have a delay and it's going to be slap back. It's going to be hard for your

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guests to talk. And then I turn it up on channel three. So that way channel three has it set up.

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So that way you're getting the music back into the same thing. Now, again, that's a traditional

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analog board. But when you have a digital board, well, not even a digital board because there's

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a lot of digital boards that still have auxiliaries on them, but a more modern board that's set up for

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something like broadcasting. And in this case, the Roadcaster Pro, the Roadcaster Duo, things along

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those lines, they have Mix-Mis built in. So the Roadcaster Pro is an amazing device. If you've

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not checked it out, podcastanswers.com/rcp is where I talk about how to use the Roadcaster Pro for

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podcasting. And honestly, that's what I'm doing right now. I'm using the Roadcaster Pro to

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podcast this episode. And so it has essentially three USB channels on it. It has three different

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USB channels on it. You can bring anything into your computer, out of your computer on it. So if

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you plug your computer into it, it has an input and an output. So I can, you know, on my USB one

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channel, if I bring that up and I have that going to, let's say, Skype or Zoom or whatever,

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that's going to bring that audio into my Roadcaster Pro. But then also, my whole mix is going to go

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back out unless I turn Mix-Mis on. And that's really easy in the Roadcaster Pro. You can just click

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the gear setting in the upper right hand corner, and then you're going to click outputs and then

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routing. And then you can click on the USB one or whatever USB channel that you're going to be

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looking to do the routing. And there's three different options in there. There's a main mix,

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which is going to have everything that's on your board. It's going to have everything,

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everything, every channel in it. Then there's a button that says Mix-Mis, which will allow you to

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take everything except for the USB input that you're on, back out to that same,

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that same thing. Again, this is because it's a bi-directional audio thing. You're doing a input

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to the Roadcaster Pro as well as an output back to the computer. And so, again, if you're doing any

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sort of guest chat, you're going to want this on so that way they're not hearing themselves

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when you do this. Or there's also a custom button, which allows you to get a little bit more

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detailed because let's say you didn't want to have another channel in there too. You can go in

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and click Custom, and then you can tell it which channels you don't want on it. So let's say you

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had your guest on channel one, USB one, and you had on USB two some music that you were listening

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to, but you didn't want your guest to hear that. You could take both of those channels out of the

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return, and your guest would never hear the music, and they would never hear themselves.

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So that's how that works on the Roadcaster Pro. It's really simple and it's really easy to do.

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So again, I would recommend using a Roadcaster Pro or something along the lines of that because

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it is so simple to do all of the podcasting with it. So now, are there times that you wouldn't want

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it on? Yes, the times that I would not want it on are if I'm not using that audio back into itself.

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So for instance, if I'm playing audio from my computer, but I don't really care if it's coming

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back to itself because I'm using it for a different input. It's not the same software. So let's say

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a software is out using the Roadcaster Pro Chat or USB two to output music from it, but I'm not

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going to actually, there's a different app on my computer that's going to be using it as an input.

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Then it doesn't really matter because I want them to be able to hear that. So some other things to

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consider is some, now, you know, why would you have to use this? Because some software has

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echo cancellation built in like Zoom or Ecamm and a few other video communication software

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has echo cancellation built right in it. Now, the way that this works is Zoom does this by knowing

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the audio that it's sending out. So if you're on a Zoom call and your guest is talking,

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Zoom knows exactly what the waveform is. It knows the audio that's coming out.

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And so when it hears that same thing coming back to itself, it cancels it out and doesn't bring it

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in. Now, why would you not want to use that? Well, echo is canceled. The echo, it doesn't have the

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best sound. So audio that's using the echo cancellation doesn't necessarily have the best

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sound because again, it's just trying to process what it knows. Whereas when you're using true

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mix minus, you're not even sending that audio back to itself. So it doesn't have to try to

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to correct the audio. It's just it doesn't have the audio to try to correct. And then your computer

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also has to work harder because it has to look and know and go, okay, it has to do some processing

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and some technology to cancel that audio. So that's not going to have the best sound. And

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it's also going to make your computer work a lot harder. So if these are topics that confuse you,

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because again, it makes minus can be confusing. And you're not even going to need it if you're just

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talking and recording yourself. If you're just if you're just doing a podcast by yourself,

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you probably don't need it if you're not bringing a guest in. But if you do have a guest, you are

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going to need especially a remote guest. That's where you're going to have this. Someone is not

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in the same room as you somewhere where you're going to have audio coming from your computer,

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but audio going back to your computer is where you're going to have the need for mix minus.

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And if this is confusing, I would love to help you. You can give me a email at podcast answers

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dot com slash contact. And I would love to help you work through this. I do consulting one on one.

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So you can hire me to do one on one consulting. I can help set up your equipment. I can help set

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up the mix minus for you, get you the right equipment and just go and produce your podcast. So guys,

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if that's something that you want to do again, you can contact me at podcast answers dot com slash

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contact. And I would love to help you guys. If you want to join a community of like minded

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podcasters, you can go to podcast answers dot com slash discord. And that's where our community is

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at. That's where I'm building the community for this. This show is podcast answers that comes

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like discord. You can join other like minded podcasters and and just ask each other questions.

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You can find out more from people who may have been doing this longer than you. So guys, without

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further ado, join us next week as we talk more information about podcasting.

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