Ryan Barone is the founder and CEO of RentRedi, an end-to-end management platform for landlords and tenants. The journey began when Barone realized that the rental industry needed improvement, not just for tenants, but also for independent landlords. After interacting with them and hearing their struggles, he decided to create a solution that would benefit both sides. Rent Ready was born out of Barone's desire to make renting easier and more efficient for landlords and tenants alike. Over the past 6 or 7 years, Rent Ready has constantly evolved, with each feature or enhancement rooted in the real-life experiences and challenges faced by landlords. From applications and prequalifying tenants to signing leases and collecting rent, Rent Ready streamlines and manages the entire rental process. What started as a personal problem-solving quest for Barone has now become a comprehensive platform that improves the rental experience for everyone involved.

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Introduction and Background

• Introduces Ryan Barone from RentRedi
• Mentions previous advertisement on the podcast
• Discusses Jack's positive experience with the app
• Mention of previous platform used (apartments.com/cozy)

Development of Rent Ready

• Ryan explains that initial development was for personal use
• Independent landlords requested improvements, leading to the expansion of the app
• Focus on solving problems faced by landlords and tenants
• Evolution of Rent Ready into an end-to-end management platform

Growth and User Base

• Jack asks about the duration of RentRedi's existence (6-7 years)
• Mention of the team size (30 members)
• Number of units and assets managed on the platform (150,000 units, $12 billion)

Influx of Users

• Discussion on various influx points of users
• COVID-19 pandemic led more landlords to seek digital payment solutions
• RentRedi implemented features to encourage on-time rent payment and report payments to credit bureaus

Entrepreneurship and Support System

• Jack asks Ryan about his entrepreneurial journey
• Ryan discusses having a support system and belief in pursuing the venture
• Mention of working on Rent Ready alongside a full-time job
• Ryan's father joins him in building Rent Ready

Challenges and Stumbling Blocks

• Jack asks about the biggest stumbling block faced by RentRedi
• Ryan does not provide a specific answer to this question

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"You can invest 10,000 hours and become an expert or learn from those who have already made that investment." - Jack

We have Ryan Barone with me here today with

RentRedi.com, and I'll make sure to have that link directly in the

show notes. Ryan, I really appreciate your time. And

for full disclosure, Ryan and RentRedi has

advertised on the podcast in the past. And because of

that, I always check things out prior. So I was using the application,

and it's great. So I have stuck with it for

Jeepers. I bet you I've been on that for I gotta be closing in on

a couple years now, a year and a half moving from

apartments.com/cozy, which

was frankly becoming a bit of a nightmare, Ryan. I

appreciate the app that you've developed. Hi. I

appreciate you having me on excited that you've been using it for so long

now. I try to find efficiencies everywhere I can,

And I want to push as much of that off

wherever I can, including, on the technology size and managing

the rental properties. When it comes to ease of use, I

just frankly, I don't know. And I'm not just blowing

smoke, and I don't know if you really have a rival right now.

I appreciate that. Honestly, a lot of credit to the people on the platform, a

lot of the independent landlords and tenants that have been on the platform because

Our approach for building it since day 1 has pretty much been give

us the the problems you face, the ideas you think could fix them,

and We'll go try to build it and make it forward for everybody. I'm really

happy to hear you say that. I act I actually have to start things off.

You're a fellow young guy. This would have been a project you would have started

when you were still in college, if not coming out. Yeah. What

caused you to typically, a rental

Management platform would wouldn't be on a college kid's

radar. It it wasn't, honestly. It wasn't on my radar.

What was on my radar was honestly just being I did get my 1st

internship. I was going to school here in New York City, and, I was

excited to move into my 1st apartment. Move out of dorms, get my 1st

apartment. And, I realized I was definitely not ready to

rent that carpet. I've, there were a lot of documents I needed to get together

to apply. And so initially, I was just developing an

app for myself and friends to apply the units more easily.

And what I quickly realized Was that the independent landlords

that I just so happen to be interacting with came to me and said, hey.

Our side is just as bad, if not worse. Can you make our side

better so that it's easier for us, not just for you? And

so at that point was where it it Pivoted to being both sides and, really,

honestly, to the landlord first, and then they make a a better experience for

their own tenant as a result of adopting RentRedi. And beyond

that, over the past 6 or 7 years now, it's been this constant

discussion. Pretty much everything on the platform today Comes from at

least 1 landlord story, if not multiple stories around

a problem they were having and a solution we could implement such that

we became not just for applying to apartments, but

actually syndicating that out to different places and prequalifying

tenants and Signing your lease and collecting all of your rent on the platform and

how you streamline and manage all that. So, basically, we ended up becoming this

this end to end management platform, but, really, it's it Started with just

how can I solve my own problems so that it's easier for me to rent,

and then how can I solve the problems of the people that I knew personally

because I was meeting these independent landlords and saying, how can it be better for

both of us, everybody involved? Now that you've been doing this, How long

has the platform been up? About 2019? 7 years now.

6 or 7 years now? So with all of that, have you started doing any

investing yourself? I have been totally focused on the

management side of things, so I've been totally focused on building the

platform, helping other landlords at this point. That's completely

understandable. I can imagine that the way as as

quickly as you're trying to reiterate this platform,

It's probably consuming a lot of time. How big is your team now? So we're

about 30 on the team today. Okay. And you manage how many

units on your platform? So we have over a

150,000 units over $12,000,000,000 in assets under

management on the platform today. Did you find any kind of

turning point that anything that happened within the industry that you

saw an influx of users? Yeah. I think there there's definitely

been multiple points where we've seen influx of users.

One, honestly, actually, was during COVID even. At the very beginning, it

was the opposite. But then after maybe that 1st month or

so, one thing we started seeing was that a lot of independent

investors who previously had managed everything on Pen and paper and

spreadsheets started saying, hey. I don't want to collect a

check or come to your house and get cashed in the middle of COVID. I've

been thinking about maybe Adopting some sort of digital payments

platform to make it easier for me to collect rent. And so we did see

a lot of people start to Really take that leap and

say, I'm gonna streamline it for both ends. And it ended up making it a

lot easier for them because instead of driving someone's house to get

cash Or having them mail a check. They were instantly having that

update in terms of a tracking perspective when a tenant pays and

Being able to just have that be automated in terms of late fees and payments

and all of that. That's been a big part of it, and even honestly out

of that has come features we had during COVID. On that same payment side

of things, landlords at tenants say, hey. Could you

encourage my tenants to pay on time? Or on the flip side of that tenant

saying, Can you make it easier or or give me some sort of benefit for

paying on time? And during that same time period, based on that

feedback we got, we actually built the ability to Report tenants

on time payments to credit bureaus so that they build the credit by paying rent

on time. So I think some of those that was definitely a big influx period

for us, and and even From that, it's helped develop the product further and add

more things to to help both parties. It's curious as regarding the

whole entrepreneur mindset. You came right out of college like

this. Was this natural? Are you typically surrounded by

entrepreneurs in your family or in your life that made you feel like you

you could go for it? Yeah. I am. I I I

have a very strong belief that having a support system that tells

you go for it is really important. I definitely had that.

I, originally, when I graduated college, I was working on RentRedi on the side. Not

too different than a lot of the independent investors on our platform that have a

9 to 5, and Their properties are they're moonlight, gee. It's what they're doing

to put a kit their car or make a little extra money. For me, it

was I was working full time at PwC, I was working on RentRedi

at at night, basically. And when I told my parents, hey. I

think I'm, you know, gonna leave, and I'm gonna try to do this full time

and Turn this into really something that helped a lot of people. Not only were

they excited for me, and they told me that cheers to all of it that

night, but also my dad joined me in And he and I have been actually

building RentRedi for the past 6 years together. It's been

really exciting to do together, but I it certainly means a lot. It's all it

means a lot for someone to say, We support you. We think you should go

for it. It has meant even more to say, not only that, but also I

wanna do it with you. We do it together. So it's been great.

As a business owner, there's always something that keeps you up at night. What has

been the biggest stumbling block getting this platform moving

so far? That's a good question. I think in the

very early days, it was trying to figure out what's the right way to do

it. There's so many different ways to manage your property, Especially, I wanted

something that could help anybody no matter what size they are

or what state they're in. We have landlords managing across all 50 states at this

point. Some are in Rural areas, some are in metropolitan areas. I I

really wanted something that was flexible enough to serve any

size or any area so that someone I have to feel like, oh, because I'm

not in the right area because I'm not the sat right side of the kit,

use this. So I think in the very early days of us trying to figure

out how do we get The perfect thing, what I came to realize

was getting the perfect thing is not the right way to go about it, but

getting feedback on what the best way that The

crowd the wisdom of the crowd believes is to implement that

and try to implement it and see how it works has been really successful for

us in terms of Taking that feedback, building something,

measuring, learning from it, and and iterating on that. I think that was probably one

of the early stumbling blocks. But, honestly, now it's become a

Core process for how we build anything in terms of

anything we're trying to improve or add to the platform, how we should do it,

how we should avoid it and just using that customer feedback and that

iteration to make it better and better every day. One one of the things that

I think is interesting about your platform is that there's a lot of integrations

with third parties. Where do you draw the line as

to where a 3rd party needs to be incorporated or when

you add it as part of your functionality. And and did

you take a moment and define your core feature set, and then

that's what you're sticking to, or how did that look? Yeah. It's a great question.

So the approach that we've taken in it is has been

Hearing the the feedback that we get from our own customer, that's really where it

starts even for those partnerships. If I take our maintenance coordination, for example,

company, Lacto, that we partnered with there. That came actually similarly out

of during COVID times. We had some, independent investors, some

landlords coming to us saying, I don't want to do my maintenance myself,

but I also don't have a teammate that I wanna add into the platform because

you can add teammates if you already have somebody. Could you

basically help me with if a maintenance request comes

through, do you handle finding the right person and coordinating

and the process for us initially was, does anybody out there do this and do

they do it well? That's really our 1st step with a lot of these partnerships.

Is there someone out there that does it Already, Mint does a good job of

it. And if there is, then great. Let's partner with them and and integrate them,

which was the answer in the case of Lateral. In other cases, if

we talk to people and find that there isn't necessarily

something out there that serves that need, we'll build it in house.

If it's something that we feel can really help independent landlords

manage their property or tenants to be more happy living in that

property of that independent landlord. And so

Essentially, if it falls under that category, it's something we consider whether we

build or partner really just depends on if we can find someone out there that

is doing it really well. If they are, then awesome. Let's partner with them,

add them into the platform. In a lot of in a lot of cases, we

can make it more seamless for them too because, even ex for

example, with Latchl, we were able to streamline all of the

onboardings from your perspective, enabling it. You're just Turning

this thing on. And we handle creating all your properties and sending all

your tenants over and syncing all of that information and everything like that. That's been

an approach for us is trying to say, can we simplify it even if we

do partner with somebody? If you don't mind me asking, what

mechanism is in place for you to take those, those

feedback from your landlords and your users so that you

and and how do you measure prioritization? Yeah. I don't mind

it at all. We've had live chat on the platform since day 1. Myself

and Ed Parshare, we're doing it For the

1st 2 or 3 years ourselves. So you wrote into the chat, you were talking

to us directly, and our feedback loop initially

was You wrote into us a chat, and,

basically, he and I were talking. I was developing platform for the 1st couple

years, And then we're building into the platform. We've grown a lot since then to

a team of over 30, but that same idea still stands. So you

might not be interacting directly with us in live chat, but you have somebody

in live chat on the RentRedi team that understands

either managing properties or renting in those properties, And they

can basically provide that feedback to our team, either

to one of our product managers or development team to basically say this is what

I'm hearing. As we collect more and more of that, we start to understand, okay,

the way that Jack would do this in his property in maybe Massachusetts versus the

way that Ryan would do this in a property in Texas. How can we make

this work for both of them? What does this look like? And then in some

cases, we may even actually reach back out to those individual landlords if they're

open to it and say, hey. This is Basically, what we've designed is what we're

thinking of doing. Would this work for you? Would would you change anything in

this? Would this be helpful? And, basically, that's then how we

then go to develop it and release it and share it out. And we keep

that tagged too. We could pull up in in the system over time, and I

know there's a lot of A landlords on the platform that have been with us

for quite a few years now that probably could tell you from their side. I

was one of them that suggested that or that it be this certain way. I

think it's an Exciting thing that it feels like we're building it all together. Has

there been any requests that you've received that have surprised you? That's a

good question. There's definitely been requests I didn't Anticipate.

Right? 1 was, for example, in Texas.

We had a landlord in Texas that called up On Friday night

and said, hey. Unfortunately, I'm going through an eviction proceeding. And in my

particular area, if they pay $1, it resets the eviction

clock. So can you allow me to block partial payments by tenant? And this

was a little bit earlier on. And so, basically, we

did not anticipate you needing to either block partial or

entirely blocked payments for just 1 tenant on the

platform, because maybe you wanna get a certified check for them if you're going into

a a legal proceeding. And so we did build that, pretty much

overnight for that landlord so that they could have it. We released it to everybody,

so everyone has this part of the platform still today. But that was definitely one

where We didn't necessarily anticipate needing something, but that feedback

led to knowing what we needed to do, how we needed to do it, in

terms of answering the question, should you allow us on Tenant basis or unit

basis or property. And so honestly, that type of feedback really

does. It makes it that you don't have to necessarily know every answer yourself.

You happy, like, to listen to the people that that have problems and have

a solution for it and then implement what they share with you. Just to remind

everybody, we're talking to Ryan Barone with Rent at ready.com.

Click that link in the show notes to head over there. And if you like

what you hear so far, why don't you do us a quick favor and share

it with one of your investor friends? So, Ryan,

I'm curious regarding your on the entrepreneurship

aspect of this. Since you've been in this now for 6, 7 years,

You've probably have learned a ton of lessons. And even though we might not be

in the similar type of business, you're doing a

SAS product versus us doing rental properties and

what have you. I'm sure that there's some cross pollination

with some of the lessons you've learned on how to be an entrepreneur. Is

there any lessons that you can share? Definitely. One of them

that's One of my favorites is honestly just to get

started. I think this I I've seen this both from the

entrepreneurship perspective with software business, and I've

also seen it even with independent investors we work with. It gets really easy to

get stuck in that analysis paralysis stage of how do I

find the perfect thing, analyze the perfect thing, build the perfect thing, whatever it

is that you're trying to do. It gets really easy to get Stuck in that

stage or feel like you have to have the perfect plan. In most cases, you

need a plan, but you don't need the perfect plan. You need a good enough

plan to get started and to be able to be flexible enough to change as

you get more feedback from whoever your customer is or whoever,

the person Buying your product or service or renting your unit might be. But

in a lot of cases, being able to have a a good enough plan, open

ears, and and just Start working on it can honestly get you a lot

further, a lot faster than necessarily waiting for that, that perfect plan

or perfect deal or whatever it might be. I can't stress that enough,

especially when it comes to investing. There is a level. It

seems if we could somehow measure it, there's a much higher percentage of

people stuck in analysis paralysis than any other industry

that I've run into. Yeah. I totally agree with you. I think more

people Don't reach their goal because they don't start. Then

people had started and then didn't have enough a good enough plan

to reach their goal. So I I really do think getting out of that

stage as quickly as you can is is

better. You can always learn along the way, and certainly, I have

Continue to. With as many investors using

your platform as you have, I'm sure. Do you have any

insights? Have you been able to collect reports or

industry information that you could maybe share that

kind of. Stoods out regarding trends or anything like

that. We actually do. So there's the company,

Shandon Economics, which is a a real estate economic research firm

that we partnered with. And, basically, we release a a once a month

report on, overall rent collection across the US to give an

idea of what that looks like for the independent landlord segment.

And it's been really helpful. We've had, landlords

that have told us it's been helpful for them to understand, Like, how things are

going in their particular an area they want to invest in. We've also even

seen some interest on the policy level. It's one of those things where There's not

a a ton of policy that's made, unfortunately, for this independent

investor market or independent landlord market. And part of that is because

Everyone on pet insurance don't happening, and so it's hard to make regulation around that.

We've seen some interest even in that report just from the aspect of understanding

how, for example, COVID impacted Independent landlords as opposed to maybe

massive property management companies or or mid level property management

companies. And it's one of those that I I hope we'll be able to do

more of in the future. I really hope it'll help both the investors on the

platform or those getting started on the platform, as well as just

Overarching group across the US with more macro

perspective of those reports. Going back to the third party integrations that

we were chatting about. Are there any upcoming integrations or

improvements that you have planned that you could share with us. There are

definitely some big big updates Coming, I think probably the most recent

one that came out was that we did a big partnership with Bigger Pockets. And

basically that now anybody that is Already a pro member on there

becomes 1 on there. Could basically just link over into RentRedi

included. So that was a huge one for us. Biggerpox has

honestly been one that we've talked to for a long time. We've known the team

over there for years, but to actually get that, level of kind of

endorsement in terms of Them supporting us and vice versa, partnering

with them, I think has been a a big integration on the platform. It's it

definitely excited a lot of people in terms of Being able to connect

those 2. Yep. May maybe I'm missing some of the integration features

as well. So I'd I'd be curious. Do you have

Some like Zapier or any Asana, any of those

type of integrations currently or planned?

We don't currently do a Zapier one on the more Asana task

management side. We do have tasks built into the platform, So landlords

can add any tasks that they have for themselves or teammates and share with

those, but not yet. Maybe it's one that should be on the list, though. I

like it. Yeah. I had to put you on the spot for a second.

So, you know, with we chatted a little bit about all of these

aspects regarding the integration and the third parties and everything

else. But one of the things that I have noticed with

my tenants is having that app

on their phone has been a big change.

Like a lot of the other platforms don't just have a standard

phone app that Right. Especially in my I have

properties in the rural communities. This has been a actually a pretty

big selling point for most. If

if when it comes to landlords versus tenants, have you

seen, like, a pretty big swing, especially when it comes to adoption?

Yeah. I I think a lot of people are are similar to yourselves in terms

of liking the that mobile app. And and it's funny. That was where

I initially, when I was developing it for myself, I started with just a mobile

app for myself and friends. And so it was looking at it even from the

perspective of what would I want to use, what would be easiest for me to

interact with things I need to do with the language. So I I think you're

you're definitely not alone there. There's quite a few, on the platform that I've

expressed that's a a huge benefit for them in Terms of

the easier it is for a tenant to pay rent on the platform or sign

their lease or submit the application to just get through the pipelines being able

to rent unit be a good tenant for you, the better. So,

that, the ease of use is definitely a piece of importance

for us. And I think you're definitely right. The the mobile app, Especially in

certain communities, especially today, you may be more likely to have a

smartphone than you do a home computer at this point. So Being able to

just meet people where wherever they are, if they have only a smartphone,

no problem. You can still do everything you need to do there. You don't necessarily

have to go get a hold of a computer in order to Pay your rent

or do whatever else you're you need to do for that unit. Is there a

feature in your platform that that people might be surprised

that is included? I think one that I I haven't

mentioned and they might be surprised about is honestly on the accounting side of

things. So that was another integration, another partnership that we did.

It's been really, really successful in terms of people being excited

about having it, using it, continuing to to use it. Basically, we

partnered with a a company, REI Hub, that Does, landlord

accounting basically, we sync all of your we we were already collecting all

of your revenue data for the rent that you collect. So being able to sync

all of that, all of your properties, everything over to there and be able to

actually connect the 2 platforms so you can come into RentRedi. And from

RentRedi, access any of these the things you need on the accounting side of things.

It's been a huge help for a lot of landlords because they can get P

and L by property, for example, right out of the box from enabling this rather

than if you were doing it in even in QuickBooks. You typically are setting up

sub jobs to basically be able to get that P and L by property or

by unit. So I think that's maybe one that I

I don't necessarily talk as often about right off the bat, but I

think it's one that a lot of people get very excited about once they try

it out. I I can imagine that being the case when it comes to any

kind of accounting and taxes and and anything for that

matter, Any path of least resistance is welcomed. I

just wanna remind everybody one last time, rentredi.com. We've

only scratched the tip of the iceberg regarding the functionality

in Ryan's, application there. So again, it's

rentredi.com so you can get a detailed list of

what this is available. And I think with

I I even have a, affiliate link that I I probably

include. So, to take advantage of whatever promotion that

is being run at the moment. But, with that, Ryan,

I warned you the the rapid fire questions were coming. Are you ready for

them? I'm ready for them. Let's do it. I'm I'm gonna open

this a little broader for you because not being directly involved in

rental properties. I'd be curious if there is a business

or real estate myth you'd like to bust here today.

Yeah. I I think I would choose a a real estate and

technology one that cross over, which would be honestly that

you have to be a certain size or in a certain placed to be able

to have technology make it easier to either manage or rent

a property. Yeah. I think with technology, there's this feeling that

once you get to X amount of units or X amount of doors or

whatever it might be. Then you can use this thing that will help you.

And even in, in our particular case, but certainly in others In

the space. There's a lot of technology out there that can help you even if

you have 1 single family unit, regardless of where you are in the

country that you wanna manage and make easier for yourself. I can't

agree more. In fact, it's surprising that especially

investors such as the people that I work with,

the amount of time that they will spend evaluating a property

and and assessing the return on investment. But then they don't take a

moment and just think about that return that can be

garnered through a software

or whatever. Every, everything can be justified through an ROI.

Just Mhmm. Take a second. Do you have a book recommendation

or what are you reading right now? I do have a book recommendation. Mine

would be 0 to 1. It's one of my favorites. I go back to it

all the time. I think it's a great book. I'll have to check that one

out. I think I actually have it in my audible library. I just haven't queued

it up yet. I love it. So every time somebody's on my

show, I add another book to my Audible library. And I I don't know if,

at this point, if I have enough time left in my life to listen to

all. You need the the double speed. It's the only way to get

through it all. So have you ever heard of that Blinkist? I think there's

apps now that will summarize the books for you. I have. I've heard of

it. It seems interesting. I haven't tried it myself yet, though. Yeah. I

haven't tried it. It's but I can understand why people would use it.

What is your biggest business mistake you've made, and what did you learn from it?

I think that one would probably be going back to the just start. I think

the biggest mistake I made was trying to build Something that was

perfect before I let anybody use it. And what I really found was that once

I let people start to use it, I got back

far more Feedback ideas than I possibly

could have gotten without it. And I I think the same thing applies to almost

any business that the more that you can Garter any sort of

feedback or put something out there and and start to get some

response on the better. So I think that's been one of the big ones for

me is just In terms of starting and collecting that feedback and iterating

on it. If you could go back in time and give your younger self one

piece of advice, what would that be? I think it would be Implementing

the we this method of build, measure, learn, which actually comes from 0 to 1,

is one that's been really successful. Using that from the beginning would

be, I think really helpful, and I think it applies to anything you do

even outside of business, just in life. But in terms of learning from

something, Putting it into action in any sort of way,

measuring the impact of that. Did it work? Did artwork? Why? Learn that

again And and repeat that process. It can be really successful in terms

of ultimately getting to wherever you wanna go, whether it's

manager Software business or properties or play guitar

or anything. You have 60 seconds, and you're gonna give everybody 1 piece

of advice they can implement today to make a impact on their business.

What would it be? I I think the the biggest one would be would

actually be that build, measure, learn. It seems so simple, But if you but

even before you as you are building, think about how am I going to

measure this? What does success look like for me if I'm fast forwarding 6 months

or a year from now? How will I look back and say, I did it,

smile, be happy, whatever it is to help me get to that point,

defining that measurement, Then implementing something and starting to see,

am I making progress towards that goal, or do I do believe that's right? Is

there anything I can learn from what I've done so far? And then

iterating on that as I go. I I think it can really apply to

truly anything you do, and I think it certainly helped me a

lot. Definitely stealing from 0 to 1 in that in that respect,

but I really do think it helps no matter what you're trying to accomplish.

That's the whole point of this show is one of the our taglines is

you can either put in the 10000 hours and become an become an

expert or learn from somebody who's already made that investment. And that's exactly what

you're doing in that situation. So, Ryan, this has been a great

But is there a question or concept you wish we would have covered here today?

The only one that I will ask is your landlord using

RentRedi yourself. What would be your suggestion? Or

the I we've talked a lot about things we build into the platform over time

based on the feedback of independent investors on the platform and Things

they have. What would be your what would be your top ask or your top

suggestion of something you don't have today, but you'd love to see in the future?

You put me on the spot, but I go back earlier. I think one of

my questions actually foreshadowed one of the things I would

ask is the, like the Zapier integration

of some kind so that I can, but you're talking to, I I don't

know if I can classify myself as a traditional landlord in

in the fact that I'm a bit of a nerd. So that type of

stuff doesn't scare me off like it might for others. I

don't I don't see that as a low bar of entry. Definitely for me. I'm

gonna do some of that, that type of thing. The other thing, anything

else would be something I probably would share with you

outside of the recording. I like it.

So I really appreciate your time, Ryan. Again, it is

rentredi.com that is ready with an I,

I'll make sure to have that as a clickable link in the show notes, but

thanks for your time, Ryan. Thanks again for having me.