In today’s short and sweet episode, I’m giving you two simple strategies for better mornings (which I know you can use now that school is back in session!).
You’ll Learn:
I show you how to help your kids get physically and emotionally ready for their day.
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When I think about a kid getting ready for school in the morning, I imagine that they are armoring up. No matter how great their school is or how much they love their teacher and their friends, school is stressful for kids.
They have to think, listen, and deal with other kids (and their behaviors). They have to do things on a schedule that isn’t always the way they want it, and there are a lot of expectations on them. This isn’t a bad thing, but it is a lot of work for them.
So we want to help facilitate and support them as they get physically and emotionally ready for their day.
The “handoff” is that moment when you drop your child off at school, daycare, camp, wherever they’re going for the day.
From the time my kids were young up to this very day, my goal when I’m dropping them off anywhere is to deliver the most emotionally regulated human being that I can to that activity.
That means that I have created an environment for my kids that is emotionally regulated. We’re not in chaotic, frantic, stressed energy.
…Which means I have to be in my calm energy.
Here are some ways to work toward a gentle handoff.
Prioritize Emotional Regulation
Our kids borrow our energy. So whatever energy you’re in (chaotic or calm) will transfer to your child.
The key to prioritizing your emotional regulation and your kid’s emotional regulation is to start your day gently.
Some simple ways to do this are:
Delay
If possible, delay the other non-kid stuff until after dropoff. If messages, problems, or stress come up, tell yourself, “I’m going to have to deal with this. But I’m going to deal with it later, because my goal is to deliver the most emotionally regulated person I can to school today.”
Know Your Cues
We all have cues that we’re getting dysregulated. When you know what yours are, you can pause before things get too far off.
Some of the clues I see when I’m getting dysregulated are:
Yelling is also a good indicator that you’re dysregulated. Because if you’re yelling, you’re not calm. Period.
If you have a rough moment or yell at your kid. see if you can do a little repair on the way to school or while you’re waiting for the bus. You may not be ready to take full accountability, but just recognizing that you lost your cool will help.
Try saying something like, “Whoa, sorry. That was a rough morning. I got out of control of my emotions a little. We’re going to do better tomorrow.”
Say Goodbye
I know this isn’t always possible, but when it is, little kids really benefit from having you park and walk them toward the school. It slows things down and lets their body and brain catch up with what’s happening.
And it gives you one more chance for connection. A little squeeze and an “I love you.”
Even when dropping off in the carpool lane, make sure to say a goodbye, let them know you love them, and want to hear all about their day later.
Eyeballs is about the reunion - when you and your kid come back together after being apart. This includes when you see them for the first time in the morning.
Eyeballs is pretty much what it sounds like - look your child in the eyes, smile, and greet them.
Kids often feel invisible. They feel like we forgot them or we don’t care about them. Your child is longing for connection with you (yes, even middle schoolers and teens). So, it can be really powerful just to make eye contact and say, “Good morning, I missed you,” or “Hi, how did you sleep?”
This connection and engagement is what makes the gentle handoff work.
Using these strategies does not mean your child will never misbehave in the morning. And the goal of emotional regulation does not mean that discipline goes out the window. You just want to be intentional with how you do it.
This isn’t the time to let frustration take over, dump all your feelings onto your kid, and bring up ALL the behaviors.
Instead, use a strong voice and say something like, “This morning is not going well, and we’re going to talk about this. But right now, it’s time to get socks and shoes on.”
Be firm and let your child know that the behavior is not working. But then delay - delay the conversation and the consequence. If you get into correction, it’s not going to set your morning up for success. It will only create more chaos, frustration, and dysregulation.
You won’t be perfect at this. That’s okay. Especially at the beginning of the school year, things will be forgotten, big feelings come up. It’s a big transition. And it’s a good time to say, “Yep, we’re all learning. We’re figuring it out. No problem.”
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Welcome back to Become a Calm Mama. I'm your host. I'm Darlin Childress, and
Speaker:I'm a life and parenting coach. And this episode is going to be short
Speaker:and sweet because I know you're all very busy. It's
Speaker:September. Back to school. Getting back into sports. It's such a
Speaker:huge transition for families, and
Speaker:it can be really overwhelming. And so I wanted to just kind of like, pop
Speaker:on here and give you some really easy
Speaker:strategies to make your life somewhat simpler.
Speaker:So I want to teach today two concepts, and
Speaker:one is called eyeballs, and one is called gentle
Speaker:handoff. So I'll start with
Speaker:gentle handoff and let you know what I mean by that, and then I'll talk
Speaker:about eyeballs. So just a brief, real
Speaker:quick overview. Gentle handoff is the
Speaker:moment that you take your child to school
Speaker:when you drop them off at the thing that they're
Speaker:going to go to, whether that's school or camp or
Speaker:preschool or daycare, anything like that
Speaker:that I want you to learn about how to create
Speaker:a gentle handoff. So that's that concept. And then
Speaker:Eyeballs is about reunion. When you come
Speaker:back after they've been separated from you while you've
Speaker:been at work or, you know, doing your home
Speaker:housework and things like doing your life, they've been at school
Speaker:or camp or daycare or preschool, and you are picking them
Speaker:back up. This could also be true for sports
Speaker:or, you know, dance or tutoring or any kind of
Speaker:activity that they're going to do. So even if it's after school,
Speaker:you do you do an eyeball time, which is really this
Speaker:reunion, this connection. All right, so let's talk
Speaker:about gentle Handoff. Whenever I
Speaker:was raising my kids, and actually even now, if
Speaker:for some reason I'm dropping them off at the airport or
Speaker:they're going on a trip or they're going back to college or whatever it is,
Speaker:I have a goal in mind to
Speaker:deliver the most emotionally
Speaker:regulated human being I can to that
Speaker:thing. So what does that mean to me?
Speaker:It means that I have created a
Speaker:environment, an environment for my kids and for myself
Speaker:that is emotionally regulated enough
Speaker:that they don't show up at school in
Speaker:a chaotic, frantic,
Speaker:stressed energy, which means I have to
Speaker:have in myself a
Speaker:calm energy. If I'm stressed and chaotic and
Speaker:overwhelmed and nervous about making it on time, and
Speaker:I have a lot of anxiety and I'm in a busy rush, I'm
Speaker:transferring all of that energy to my kid
Speaker:in that moment. So one of the things I want you to remember
Speaker:is that Our children, sadly, and maybe not sadly,
Speaker:but like, no pressure here, our children but borrow
Speaker:our nervous systems. So when little babies are born, they
Speaker:don't really know how to self regulate. Their nervous system is like a live
Speaker:wire and it's constantly zapping, you
Speaker:know, and they kind of need, not kind of, they do, they need adults
Speaker:and caregivers to come and help soothe them and calm
Speaker:their nervous system. We do that by swaddling them,
Speaker:by shh, shh, shh, you know, by, you know,
Speaker:shaking them. Not like shaking them, but you know, like little babies, they
Speaker:love vibration, they love to be in the swing, they love to be in an
Speaker:exercise, they like to be in things that bounce, right? And
Speaker:that is calming to their nervous system. And we,
Speaker:when we bring our own nervous system
Speaker:nearby, our children borrow it. So if it's a
Speaker:really dysregulated nervous system, they're going to borrow that. If it's a
Speaker:calm nervous system, they're going to borrow that. The same
Speaker:for executive function, our kids borrow our thinking, they
Speaker:borrow our feeling, they borrow our brain and our
Speaker:body until they're ready to manage it on their own.
Speaker:And that takes a really long time. Now I say no pressure,
Speaker:right? Because you get to be a person, you're going to have rough mornings,
Speaker:you're going to wake up and there's going to be dog poop on the carpet
Speaker:and someone's going to have spilled and you're going to get an email from
Speaker:your sister saying that something's going on with your family or
Speaker:financial information is going to come through. I mean, a lot happens to
Speaker:us sometimes, right? Even before 7am we get a lot of information.
Speaker:The news can be very upsetting. And so we have
Speaker:our own stressors in our life.
Speaker:And I want to help you think about prioritizing
Speaker:your emotional regulation in the morning and your children's emotional
Speaker:regulation and really delaying dealing with things
Speaker:like that until after drop off. Instead of
Speaker:trying to fix it, change it, stop it, solve it, and getting into that energy
Speaker:in the morning, go, okay, I'm going to have to deal with this, but
Speaker:I'm going to deal with it later because my goal
Speaker:is to deliver the most emotionally regulated person I can
Speaker:to school today. When
Speaker:I find myself overwhelmed and starting to get into
Speaker:my own stress response, I have some cues
Speaker:and some clues that help me go, oh wait, no, I'm
Speaker:getting dysregulated. So one is I start talking a lot, like just
Speaker:kind of barking commands or, you know, I can feel my
Speaker:anxiety. Did you do this? Did you do that? Did you do this? Did you
Speaker:do that? Right. And that can, that's an indicator to me that
Speaker:I'm starting to get overwhelmed. Another indicator to me is when I
Speaker:get really quiet and steely and just kind of like start just
Speaker:barreling and bulldozing and doing everything on my own. That's
Speaker:indication of that. Maybe I'm not in my regulation,
Speaker:so kind of being able. And of course, I obviously feel stuff in my chest,
Speaker:I feel stuff in my, in my belly, I notice it
Speaker:in my body. But those aren't my clues. First, I don't check into my body
Speaker:usually until my behavior is showing me that
Speaker:something's going on for me. Obviously yelling is a very good
Speaker:indicator that you're stressed. When you're yelling at your kids,
Speaker:it's because you're not calm. That's just true.
Speaker:So when you are waking up, getting yourself
Speaker:going, doing what you need to do to calm
Speaker:yourself, whether that is making sure you get a cup of
Speaker:coffee or tea, whether that's making sure you spend
Speaker:three or four minutes just kind of silently breathing, maybe for
Speaker:you, it's kind of like I, you know, maybe you want to scroll for a
Speaker:minute, check all your emails and Instagrams and all the things
Speaker:and then turn that off. If that's something you want to do, do it.
Speaker:I'm not going to tell you not to do that, but I am going to
Speaker:suggest that if it's upsetting to you,
Speaker:maybe it's not the best thing for you in the morning.
Speaker:Maybe you do delay checking your social media
Speaker:until after the kids go to school. Sometimes we
Speaker:do have to check our email or in our text messages to make sure that
Speaker:there's no information that we need for that day. And we need to kind of
Speaker:like, you know, be up on the information. But for the most
Speaker:part, we can start our day in a gentle way. We don't have to
Speaker:start it with our phones. So waking up, doing a couple stretches,
Speaker:just like, just putting your hands in the air, kind of stretching your body, brushing
Speaker:your teeth, rinsing your face, putting on either your workout clothes
Speaker:or if you're kind of like a lounger, just making sure
Speaker:you put on something that gets you into in the mode of like, nope,
Speaker:I'm ready for the day. I'm ready to show up for my kids. Now, for
Speaker:me, my son always woke up before me because he was a really early
Speaker:riser and he would, most of the time we taught
Speaker:him to stay in his room and he would wake up around 5:30 and
Speaker:then kind of come out at 6:30. And so I would
Speaker:often either he would hear me up and he would greet
Speaker:me or I would go in, you know, after a minute or two
Speaker:and I would go get him from his room. Even all the way through elementary
Speaker:school when he was a little bit older, seven or eight, he could get up
Speaker:on his own, go downstairs, go to the kitchen, go to the playroom,
Speaker:play toys. It just the rule was not to wake me and
Speaker:my kids understood not to do that. My second son, he was a
Speaker:really big sleeper and he still is. And he's a night owl.
Speaker:So mornings for him I really just needed to get him up
Speaker:and, you know, get him out the door. And we didn't really do.
Speaker:He didn't eat breakfast or anything like that. He wasn't a morning eater.
Speaker:He didn't want to eat. They always had snack at school at 10, they started
Speaker:school at 8:45. So I didn't make it a big deal.
Speaker:If he wanted a bar or something like that, he could have it in the
Speaker:car. But for the most part he wasn't hungry ever in the morning. So I
Speaker:just allowed that to be true and okay and let him go because
Speaker:I don't want to fight with my kids in the morning about stuff. Really wanted
Speaker:to set them up for success. When I think about a kid going to
Speaker:school, I think about that
Speaker:they are going to be armoring up, right?
Speaker:No matter how perfect the school is and how much they love their
Speaker:teacher and how much they love their friends and how smart they are and
Speaker:how much success they have at school if they have a perfect
Speaker:scenario. School. School is still stressful for children
Speaker:because it's work. They have to think, they have
Speaker:to listen, they have to have other kids
Speaker:behaviors that they deal with. It's hot, it can be
Speaker:uncomfortable. They have to go outside when they don't want to go outside, they have
Speaker:to move their body. When they don't want to move their body, they have to
Speaker:stop moving their body. When they want to move their body, they have to hold
Speaker:it. If they have to go potty, they have to hold it. If they're hungry,
Speaker:they have to wait to eat. So there's a lot of work that goes
Speaker:into being at school. We don't need to make that mean that the school's bad
Speaker:or that there's something wrong with the school system. No, it's just
Speaker:true. It's a tax on our bodies and
Speaker:our brains. When we go in an environment that has a
Speaker:lot of other people and expectations, those are Good. We want our kids to do
Speaker:that. But recognizing that they need
Speaker:to kind of get ready emotionally and
Speaker:physiologically, physically to go to school.
Speaker:And that is what, you know, we want to help
Speaker:facilitate that and support them so that when they go to school,
Speaker:they're armored up and ready. So thinking
Speaker:about, how can I get what I need, my needs met
Speaker:enough, just enough that I can be calm in the morning. So sometimes
Speaker:for some people, that means, like, making lunches before,
Speaker:like, the night before. For some people, that means, you know, having
Speaker:breakfast, kind of an easy breakfast every day, whatever
Speaker:that is, setting the coffee maker up the night before for yourself, kind of
Speaker:whatever you can do to set yourself up for success is great. I never
Speaker:made lunches in the morning the night before. I've talked about this a lot on
Speaker:the podcast. I was always really tired at night. I could not add another thing
Speaker:to my evening. But I wake up, I usually have more energy in the morning.
Speaker:So while I was making breakfast, I was also throwing together
Speaker:some simple sandwiches or whatever it was for lunch.
Speaker:And that was kind of like, I did all my morning, all my tasks
Speaker:in the kitchen in the morning. I was usually in the morning from, you know,
Speaker:most of the morning, I was in the kitchen. All right, so get your
Speaker:kid up now. This is a great chance for me to introduce Eyeballs. So when
Speaker:your kid wakes up, it is very good
Speaker:to greet them and to make eye contact. So Eyeballs is about
Speaker:making eye contact with our kids
Speaker:and being able to look at them and say, like, hi,
Speaker:how you doing? How's your morning going? You know, did
Speaker:you sleep all right? I missed you. Yeah. Now, that
Speaker:concept of I missed you is really important because kids often
Speaker:feel invisible. They feel like we forgot them. They feel like we don't care about
Speaker:them. That's just their preset. You love them, you care about them, you think about
Speaker:them all. All the time. All that is true. It's good to just say it.
Speaker:I've been thinking about you, wondering how you slept. Right?
Speaker:Making a greeting. So even if your kids are,
Speaker:like, up too early or they've already gotten into something
Speaker:and you want to start disciplining them or talking to them about their behavior,
Speaker:I would recommend pausing and just being like, okay, before
Speaker:we talk about that, I just want to say good morning, hi, and
Speaker:actually smile, look them in the eye, and connect.
Speaker:Your children are longing for connection with you, especially
Speaker:when you have been separated. This is even
Speaker:true of teens and of middle schoolers. They
Speaker:might not act like they care, but they still want us to
Speaker:Care. They want us to be connected and
Speaker:committed to showing up for them. That makes them feel safe and secure and
Speaker:seen. So taking a minute, saying good morning, looking at
Speaker:them in the eye, you're calm, you're regulated. You've got a good plan for the
Speaker:morning, and then you are working on emotional regulation.
Speaker:Now, what that means is that we don't want to be
Speaker:disciplining our children in the morning. We don't want to
Speaker:use the morning as a time to bring up all the
Speaker:behaviors. And, like, if they're being naughty, you know,
Speaker:they're not brushing their teeth or they're not sitting at the table,
Speaker:and we're frustrated by all that. This isn't the time
Speaker:to be like, you always do this every morning. It's so frustrating. I've told
Speaker:you 14 times to sit down and eat, drink your smoothie. Like,
Speaker:we want to get in their face and start to, like, really
Speaker:kind of take some of that frustration that we have and dump it onto
Speaker:them. And I understand the urge and the desire to
Speaker:do that. And I'm going to recommend that you don't do it,
Speaker:because your child is
Speaker:obviously working through their own big
Speaker:feelings about going to school, and they're like, you know, maybe they didn't sleep well
Speaker:or whatever it is. You can say, listen, this morning
Speaker:is not going well, and we're going to talk about this, but not now, because
Speaker:it's time to get socks and shoes on. So if you want
Speaker:to be firm and hold a strong voice and let your kids know that.
Speaker:That this behavior is not working, that this is not
Speaker:okay, but then delay. Delay the
Speaker:conversation, delay the consequence, delay the
Speaker:discipline or the correction. Delay all of it, because it's not
Speaker:gonna set your morning up for success. It's going to create more
Speaker:chaos and frustration, and it
Speaker:will make you dysregulated, your kids dysregulated. It'll make you run out of time. You'll
Speaker:be running behind. Your kids won't be connected to their bodies as well, so they
Speaker:won't notice if they're. If they have to go potty. They won't notice if they
Speaker:have not brushed their teeth or whatever it is that they've got to do before
Speaker:school. And you are going to feel overwhelmed and stressed and
Speaker:frustrated, and so are your kids. And then it's like, get
Speaker:in the car, right? We all have those times where
Speaker:everybody is yelling at each other and frustrated and
Speaker:overwhelmed. So a gentle handoff really
Speaker:requires that we don't discipline in the morning and
Speaker:that we are connected. To our kids that we engage, that we get.
Speaker:Give them eye contact, and that we move a little bit
Speaker:slow so that we can match their brains as their brain
Speaker:warms up and gets ready for school. I have
Speaker:noticed through the years there's this one corner on my street,
Speaker:I mean, in my neighborhood, where it's a big
Speaker:intersection, and a lot of people driving their kids to
Speaker:school are in that intersection. It's like the high school's one way, the middle
Speaker:school's the other. The elementary schools are all this way, like, so you kind
Speaker:of end up seeing a lot of parents in cars with kids. And over
Speaker:the years, I have watched moms sitting in the
Speaker:front seat, kids are in the back seat, and mom is just
Speaker:yelling at the children because the morning went so poorly.
Speaker:And I watch the kids, their faces and their eyes
Speaker:kind of glaze over, and the disconnection that they have to
Speaker:the almost disassociation that they have to have
Speaker:in order to go to school. After experiencing
Speaker:that level of anger and yelling,
Speaker:it really does set your kid up for a
Speaker:lot of emotional dysregulation or disconnection
Speaker:from themselves when they get to school. So
Speaker:if you have done that, girl, it's fine. I have done it
Speaker:too. I am talking about best practice and kind
Speaker:of why we want to avoid those things. And really it's because we
Speaker:want our kids to be successful at school. We want them to be able to
Speaker:listen to their teacher and be a nice friend and learn and
Speaker:like being at school. And so what we want to do is
Speaker:create an environment in our own car that is
Speaker:very regulated. Committing to
Speaker:not parenting your kids or disciplining or.
Speaker:Or talking through something on the way to school is
Speaker:part of delivering the most emotionally regulated human you can.
Speaker:And having that gentle handoff. Okay, the last thing I'll
Speaker:say about gentle handoff, and I don't want to
Speaker:add pressure again, I'm just talking about best practices. So a
Speaker:lot of times we do carpal line for kids, and
Speaker:that's fine for especially, like, third grade and
Speaker:up. Once they're eight or nine, they don't really need this
Speaker:so much of a physical connection as they transition
Speaker:from home care to school care. But
Speaker:littler kids, they actually kind of need their
Speaker:body to catch up to what's happening to them
Speaker:and moving at a pace that is for the pace that
Speaker:their brain can handle. So what do I mean by that?
Speaker:I mean being able for them to part. You park, you get
Speaker:them out of the car, you walk to campus, you
Speaker:know, towards school, you Be able to give a hug
Speaker:and, you know, or. Or like a little side squeeze
Speaker:and get eyeballs again and be able to say, I love you,
Speaker:I'll miss you, and I hope to hear everything when you get
Speaker:back. Yeah. And just saying goodbye.
Speaker:Saying goodbye from the carpal line, it's just hard.
Speaker:It's hard to. To have an actual
Speaker:handoff. Right. If you think about being dropped off at the airport
Speaker:versus someone walking you in or even the person who drops you off, if they
Speaker:just get out of the car and come around and help you with your bag
Speaker:and give you a hug, it feels a lot more connected
Speaker:and you feel a little bit more calm when you've had that
Speaker:opportunity. But if it's really. Ah, we're running late. Get out of the car.
Speaker:Hurry up. Grab your bag. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You didn't get your
Speaker:water bottle. Hurry. Come back. Come back. All that is really chaotic, and
Speaker:it is something that can make it
Speaker:hard for your kids to then overcome and, like, re regulate
Speaker:their nervous system. So, again, all of this is just.
Speaker:The goal is delivering the most emotionally regulated human
Speaker:you can to that campus or to that location.
Speaker:And I made a commitment to myself and my kids
Speaker:to delay conversations about behavior
Speaker:until after school. Now, I was just teaching this at
Speaker:a live event I did this week, and a mom asked about
Speaker:repair. Like, is it appropriate in the car
Speaker:to say, I'm sorry for how I acted if you did
Speaker:have a rough moment? Absolutely. Because
Speaker:what we want to do is own our own
Speaker:behavior so that our kids know it's not about them. They're not
Speaker:bad. They're not naughty. Like, even though they were bad and naughty,
Speaker:we want to be able to say to them, you know, hey, this morning, that
Speaker:was me. I was not in control of my emotions.
Speaker:I got, you know, my body. I got out of control of
Speaker:my body, and I yelled, or, you know, I slammed down
Speaker:your waffle or whatever you did, or, you know, I told
Speaker:you you can't go to the birthday party tonight because of your behavior.
Speaker:Like, I'm sorry. I am gonna calm my body,
Speaker:and we're gonna talk about all of this after school.
Speaker:It's not because you're naughty or bad. It's because I just didn't
Speaker:have control of my body, and I'm sorry. So I would
Speaker:suggest if you have lost your cool, that it
Speaker:is good to make repair in the mornings and in
Speaker:that car ride. But what I've noticed about myself is that if
Speaker:I start to say I'm sorry, and then I Go back. But. And I want
Speaker:to criticize their behavior. I'm not really ready for repair.
Speaker:So you can just say like, whoa, sorry, that was a rough morning. We're going
Speaker:to do better tomorrow. So if you're not really ready to like, take
Speaker:accountability and own your behavior because you're
Speaker:angry with your kids, I get it. You can just be like,
Speaker:guys or, hey, kid, you know, this was rough and we're going
Speaker:to work on this. Yeah, we're all going to work better tomorrow. We're going to
Speaker:be able to get along and, you know, follow the directions and the
Speaker:rules and yep, this is just one, one rough day. No problem.
Speaker:Doesn't mean anything. So just kind of normalizing
Speaker:and letting your kids know, like, yep, this is a one off. We're working on
Speaker:it. Especially at the beginning of the school year. It's a big transition.
Speaker:There's lots of stuff that gets forgotten. There's a lot of big
Speaker:feelings that come up for our kids and we can really be reactive to
Speaker:that. So just kind of really being able to say,
Speaker:yep, we're all learning. It's back to school, no problem. We're figuring it out.
Speaker:Yep, it's alright, we'll talk about it later. No one's in trouble.
Speaker:Really kind of narrating that everything's okay instead of going
Speaker:like, this was a big disaster. We're not doing this again. You know, don't
Speaker:bring that harshness in. Okay, so
Speaker:eyeballs a little bit I've talked about. I'm gonna talk about it again in the
Speaker:next episode, but for this week, I want you to remember making
Speaker:that eyeball connection in the mornings. And
Speaker:before you separate, if you can, getting out of the
Speaker:car, saying goodbye, and then creating a morning routine that
Speaker:is very regulated and calm. And
Speaker:if it starts to go off the rails and things don't go well,
Speaker:avoiding disciplining and criticizing and lecturing
Speaker:and mama logging and all those things on the drive to school
Speaker:or on the drive to preschool or camps or whatever the thing is that
Speaker:you're doing. Avoid doing that on the drive to
Speaker:somewhere. It just never goes well. All right, mamas,
Speaker:I hope you have a great week and I
Speaker:will talk to you next week.