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DJ Sir Daniel: Greetings and welcome to another episode of Queue Points Podcast.

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I am DJ Sir Daniel,

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and my name is Jay Ray, sometimes known by my government as Johnnie

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Ray Kornegay, the third Sir Daniel.

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This was a moment in time that you literally had to be alive.

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You have to be

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DJ Sir Daniel: there.

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You had to be there.

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It is exactly.

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We're now in 2025.

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It is exactly 25 years from the year 2000 . We are, we we're

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at, at the quarter mark, right?

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Yeah.

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25 years into the new millennium.

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Mm-hmm . And likJay Rayay said, you had to be there.

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There was just so much going on in 1999 leading up to, to this remarkable change.

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As a matter of fact.

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The year 2000 was such a big deal that A24 Films is releasing a disaster comedy

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called Y2K and we are officially at the age where movies JRE are being made about

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an era that we experienced firsthand.

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Can you believe it?

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You know what?

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I am grateful that I am here and we are here to experience it.

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So can I believe it?

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Sure, because I'm here and this is great and we can have this fun conversation

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to talk about this moment in time.

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Now.

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I'm curious for you, Sir Daniel.

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So did this turn of the century, cause it was a big deal.

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Were you excited or were you like anxious?

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Like what was your, what was your mood?

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DJ Sir Daniel: I was a little bit of both more so because I was, um, in a, I was

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in a, in a, in a state of transition.

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Like, uh, how old was I?

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99.

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What was it?

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I can't even remember.

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Well, clearly I had to.

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I was 22.

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So you're probably like 24.

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So 24, 25 actually.

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Okay.

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So I'm 25.

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No, you're right.

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24 going on 25.

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And so I am trying to figure things out.

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I think I'm about to graduate from Clark Atlanta.

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Um, But I still don't, I'm trying to get into radio.

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I'm trying to just trying to figure things out.

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And there's a lot of stuff that is not happening the way that I thought

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it would, which is, I believe a predicament that a lot of young people

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in college or at that quarter mark of their life start to experience.

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Yep.

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So.

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You're just trying, you're like, okay, it's, it's a sense of

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what is, what is we going to do?

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What am I about to do?

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And then on top of that, the world is on high alert, right?

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Because some, some people didn't plan for the numbers changes

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from 99 to go to double zeros.

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Yes.

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That just threw us into a whole form of turmoil.

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So J Jay Ray, there's a whole Y2K theory, a whole Y2K disaster theory

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that we all live through, but I want you to break it down for the people that

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weren't there and also just, you know, jarred the people, their memory of the

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people that were there to experience it.

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Yes.

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So.

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Cool.

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It's interesting that we are about to have this conversation because I

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think we're so far removed from it that it seems like a weird thing that

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happened, but it really was real.

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So I want to start with the number that I think is important.

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This is according to computer world.

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They did an article, um.

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This was a feature story in 2000, okay?

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The estimated worldwide cost of fixing the Y 2K bug, according to analysts,

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Capgemini America said $858 billion.

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Wow.

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Garner Group said $600 billion.

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International Data Group said $300 billion, so.

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The Y2K issue cost us in 2000s money between 300 billion

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and 858 billion to fix.

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So let's explain what Y2K was really about and why everybody was so stressed.

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So what happened was in, in the early days of computer coding, Everything was new.

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It was like hip hop back in the day.

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You know what I'm saying?

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It was new.

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People was like, we doing, we doing computer things in

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the, in the, in the 1900s.

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Right.

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And 1960, 1967 is 67.

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That's how we program 67.

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That's what year it is.

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You, we know, you know, I know that's 1967, right?

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But here's the, here's the gag.

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The gag is, Those people weren't thinking like, well, what happens

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when it gets to the year 2000, right?

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So what was the big problem?

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One of the big problems was the numbering system that was built into the coding

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of the time was using like two digit Uh, month, year, month, day, year.

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The problem with that is, of course, when you hit 2000,

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everything resets to zero, zero.

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That's a mess.

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Y'all right.

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Done.

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Done.

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I wish I had that sound effect.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Right?

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So the fear was.

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Oh, crap.

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When things reset to zero zero, we're talking banking problems.

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We're talking everything that could possibly be a problem will be a problem

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because the system will revert to zero.

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Like the dates will revert back to zero.

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So what had to happen and this is second nature to us now, you can look

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at the clock on your on your computer and it will give you the four digit

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year before all of these folks did all of this work around the Y2K bug fix.

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That was not a thing.

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And

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DJ Sir Daniel: so that that really that put us into a tizzy.

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There were people on television.

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Um, talking heads that were concerned about airplanes falling out of the sky.

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And everything was going to, was going to be calamity on New Year's Eve.

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December 31st, 1995 at midnight, I mean, there were literally guys, do you, I don't

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know if y'all recall about the discussions about, you know, um, people were clearing

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out water from the supermarkets and canned goods and, you know, make sure

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you stock up your, you know, stock up your home with canned goods just in case,

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you know, the, the, the, the banking systems go down because then you can't go.

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grocery shopping, and then you can't, you know, and, and then you can't get gas.

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So then there might be, you know, they wanted you to go fill up your tank.

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And it was just so much fear mongering that sent really sent people into

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a tizzy and You know, I think, I think a lot of us, Jay Ray, I'm

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going to, and I'll count myself.

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I'm going to use an I statement and I'll count myself in this.

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A lot of us were thinking when we got to the year 2000, we were thinking, Oh, it's

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going to be like the Jetsons up in here.

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Literally like all of a sudden, like the cars are

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just going to start levitating.

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I'm not sure why they would do that.

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That's what we thought.

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But.

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And I would say to that point, and Sir Daniel, I don't know if this is true for

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you, but it was definitely true for me.

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It was easy when midnight hit to immediately downplay all of the,

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the stuff that happened, all of the, the fear mongering, right?

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It was immediately, see, nothing happens, but Nothing happened because

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between 300 billion and 800 billion was spent to fix the thing that

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would have been disastrous for us.

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So I think that's really important for people to understand is yeah.

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We we downplayed it at the time because we was young and foolish but computer

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people was like nah son They saved all of them programmers saved the world

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DJ Sir Daniel: They were in their laps clacking away On their

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keyboards because the keyboards back then made a lot of noise.

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So that's what i'm saying Here's my

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keyboard.

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It's a clackety clack

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DJ Sir Daniel: clack.

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There you go And then and the rest of y'all know the rest of

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y'all was at watch night service With your hands up in the air.

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Oh lord jesus, you know praying that that lord.

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Peace Keep the planes in the sky most heavenly father and if and if it is time

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for us to go home Let us go home with you.

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Amen but It was Hassan

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clackety clack clacking on his keyboard somewhere over in India

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DJ Sir Daniel: Shout out to

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Hassan shout out to Hassan

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DJ Sir Daniel: And Abibi and everybody that kept the lights From glitching

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the the yellow red and green lights from glitching and we were able to

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get home after Because Jay Ray i'm not gonna lie me and my friend angel.

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We were at a reggae club And and there was a moment where we were kind of like

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Standing still like, is everything okay?

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I don't know what we thought was going to happen.

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Like there was going to be, uh, um, uh, earthquake or something, or the

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ground was going to open up, but I do know what people were doing.

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Jay Ray.

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A lot of people were getting it on as

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they should have been.

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Why not?

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Because you know what babies had to be born at some point, the baby's got to come

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here, you know, 1999 to two thousands.

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They gave us some very important people.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Sure, a lot of these people are about to, a lot of these important

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people are about to turn 25 this year.

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And there, there's just, here, this is a short list of, um, of

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entertainers, some rappers that were born in the year 2000, Jay Ray.

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I Spice.

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I don't remember ice spice.

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That is shady.

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Why are we doing it?

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2025?

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Why are we doing that to ice spice?

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Because she's you know, she she's taking a hiatus.

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I don't know where she's been but she famously well she in 2024 she

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infamously dropped an album by the name

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Y2K.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Because Cleo Trapper

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took her out.

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Cleo Trapper was like, nah, sis.

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DJ Sir Daniel: You know what?

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I forgot about it.

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That's what that was.

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That was a really bad look.

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That was a really bad look for Ice Spice, but a really good look for Cleo Trapper.

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Yep.

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She was born on January 1st, 2000.

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She's one of those kids that was born on the first day of Y2K.

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So.

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Yes, Ice Spice is on that list, um, Flo Millie,

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shout out to Flo Millie, Flo Millie who I,

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DJ Sir Daniel: I dig a lot, she's really cool, um, a young man by the name of 2C,

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I have no idea who that is, yeah,

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DJ Sir Daniel: the young people know who that is, 2C, uh, we know who Halle

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Bailey is, we do know who Halle Bailey is, whose name still

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confuses me, I'm like, I don't, I get where your parents were doing,

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but it's Bailey, not Barry, right?

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DJ Sir Daniel: It's Bailey, Bailey, Halle Bailey.

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And one Willow Smith was born in the year 2000.

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That's a gem right there.

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That Willow Smith is the gift that keeps on giving because

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her album in 2024 went off.

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It

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DJ Sir Daniel: sure did.

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And if in case for those of you who are under a rock and don't

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know who her mom and dad are.

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Her mother, of course, is Jada Smith, Jada Pinkett Smith,

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Jada Pinkett Smith,

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DJ Sir Daniel: and her daddy is Mr.,

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Mr., uh, Will, Willennium himself,

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the

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DJ Sir Daniel: Willennium, remember that?

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The Willennium!

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That was a whole album.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It was Mr, um, it was Mr, uh, Will Smith himself, the Fresh Prince, who

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the millennium is actually, uh, another indication of everybody's obsession with

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the year 2000 and the new millennium.

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Everything was about the millennium.

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And when I tell you.

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Hip hop specifically went gung ho about the new millennium and the Y2K aesthetic

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because a lot of albums were based on it and the video aesthetics and treatments

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were about being in the year 2000.

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Yeah,

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yeah, yeah.

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Like, so what I will say was dope about that is we definitely went to the future.

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Immediately.

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So you think of, for example, TLC's fan mail, where you got, you

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know, your first kind of, um, you got some AI happening in fan mail.

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Right.

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And shout out to left eye, of course, who really came up with that

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concept, but they were in the future.

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Um, of course, one.

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Missy Elliott was always in the future.

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It felt like, but she was really in the future.

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Um, during the Y2K era, Busta Rhymes was in the future, right?

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So hip hop was like, listen, let's lean into this.

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We're going to go sci fi.

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We're going to go to the future and we're going to take our folks with us.

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And that's what we did, sir.

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Daniel, we started, uh, doing all of our futuristic millennium stuff.

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DJ Sir Daniel: And apparently in the future, there's a lot of.

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Glitching in in the music videos.

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There was a lot of You know, a lot of glitching as Usher calls it, that's

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his dance now is that he calls it the glitching, but you know what the, we

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have to pay respect to somebody who, who really may had a lot of input on those,

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um, the visual aspect of a lot of those artists that you just mentioned, because

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Hype Williams was a very, very important figure in In what our imagination of what

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the year 2000 and beyond would look like.

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And here we are 25 years later, and there's some, you know, um, virtual

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meetings, you and I doing the show just like this, um, virtually is part of that.

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Um, it was part of that aesthetic, but I think.

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If we want to talk about how Williams and his magnum opus, we cannot

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talk about 1999 going into the year 2000 and not talk about belly.

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Yes.

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And, and, and specifically the classic opening of belly, I think is just.

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Because honestly, I haven't watched Belly since the early 2000s.

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It's probably worse than I remember.

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DJ Sir Daniel: You're not off.

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You're not far off.

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It's not, it's not one of those.

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You're not going to Belly for like dialogue and really good dramatic acting.

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That's not what you're there for.

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But that vision of.

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The blue and walking down the hall and you got a crew and black folks look, you know,

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the black men looking blue at midnight, like moonlight, you don't have to say

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that's also beautiful to like being able to like imagine us in that way and like

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glowing and being beautiful in our skin

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DJ Sir Daniel: and dimensions.

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Let's not forget that.

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Yes.

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The whole fish Island that

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gave.

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DJ Sir Daniel: It's a different kind of texture to the way things looked.

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Yeah, movies.

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Yeah, man.

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Um, so yeah, belly is that belly was definitely a moment and hype William.

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So if y'all haven't seen belly, maybe we should do it.

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Maybe we should do a watch party for belly.

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We might y'all want y'all want us to do that.

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Let us know.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Let us know, buy us a coffee, you see the little QR code

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there in the corner, buy us a coffee and let us know why you're sipping

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it, should we do a watch party for Belly, it's, it's really superior.

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Beautiful to look at.

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Yeah.

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I love it.

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It's got some really funny scenes, but I think what the culmination of the

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movie, it does happen on New Year's Eve.

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Yeah.

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1999 going into the new millennium, which I, let me tell you something.

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People were ready to party As we should have 31st 1999 And if y'all don't know

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i've mentioned this before I was working at hmv record store Um during this time

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i've been working working there for three years And I can honestly tell you that

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Maybe towards the the second quarter of the year A lot of people we started to see

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this boost of people coming in You Asking for Prince's 1999 album, whether it's CD,

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whatever people were, do you have 1999?

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And then as we got closer, like December.

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Of 99, all the people were, they were like, we've got, I've got to

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have it because I got to drop this in New Year's Eve, you know, 1999.

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Yeah, man.

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So it was like Prince, Prince was like, well, we know he was a genius, but was he

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a genius with a, uh, what do they call it?

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A crystal ball.

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Yeah.

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Listen, he, he named, uh, the three, he had a three disc set.

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Call crystal ball.

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He

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DJ Sir Daniel: sure did.

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He did.

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Um, and 1999, let me take a step back.

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There is a weird thing about putting a year in a song.

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So if you go back and listen to a tribe called quest is midnight Marauders album.

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Q tip does this whole bit, um, in the middle of, I can't

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remember what song, but he says.

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Extra P was large professor says, don't say the years right in the song,

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so he couldn't say what year it was.

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Right.

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And that's kind of a sentiment, right?

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You don't want to date the song.

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However, Princess 1999 was made in like 1982.

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So Prince was in the future.

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And it was so crazy because that is a jam you'll hear 1999 played on the

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radio probably tomorrow Just turn on your radio and classic r& b radio.

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They're probably going to drop 1999 because it is probably the the most

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Recognizable song with a year in its title Ever made I don't know another

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song that has a year as a title that is as well known as that song

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DJ Sir Daniel: Maybe the summer of 69 Maybe

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I love that.

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Shout out to Brian Adams.

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Love that song.

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You're right.

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DJ Sir Daniel: It does not hold as much weight as 1999 by Prince.

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And you know, one of the reasons, another reason why I think it holds

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so much weight or mythology with.

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A lot of us is that for as old as long as I can remember, Jay Ray, I don't know

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if you grew up with this, if you grew up, if you grew up with any kind of religion,

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some Jesus, you have some Jesus, if you had some Jesus in your life, you grew

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up with any kind of religion, they were pounding the message of revelations.

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Into our brains at a very early start because the world has been

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coming to an end since it started

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Like every 20 years some minister is making millions off

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of the end of the year prophecy

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DJ Sir Daniel: exactly and you know prince Famously says in the, in the

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lyrics, they, they say 2000 party over,

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oops, out of time.

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Honestly, it was, he was right.

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Because if, if these people did, if, if Hassan and them didn't program it.

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Hey, we would have been out of time.

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DJ Sir Daniel: That's it.

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And so, yeah, I think really people really thought that's part of the, the

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vision, you know, that's why people were, I'm pretty certain watch night

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services was packed December 31st, 1999.

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You probably, You could, you had to get reservations to

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get up in church at that time.

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Can you see the red, the uh, the velvet rope at church?

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DJ Sir Daniel: Yes.

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. Oh, absolutely.

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There's somebody with a clipboard.

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Uhhuh . Uhhuh.

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. Okay.

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I've got two . This is not your regular usher.

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I've got two front, but we will need a credit card to

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hold those two seats for you.

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Can you do that?

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Right.

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Just go ahead and, but

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it,

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DJ Sir Daniel: but it was the

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credit card with the,

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DJ Sir Daniel: yeah, because there was no swiping back then.

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Right.

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So it is like.

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And here's your carbon, we'll keep this copy, here's your carbon copy,

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and yes, now, if you're not here But if you're not here, but by, um, by

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1130, your seats can be given away.

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So just letting you know, no refunds, no refunds is going to be, and I know

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that there's a church that I live down the street from not too far from that's

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very popular here in the metro Atlanta area, um, for having those kinds of, um,

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you know, um, celebrity, uh, celebrity esque rules and foolishness that goes

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along with going up into that church.

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But of course that was long, long, long ago.

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Those things don't exist anymore.

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But yes, I, you know, yes, kids, that's exactly why 1999 has such an effect.

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Effect on us, I think, uh, you know, we had a lot of music wise, like

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Jay Ray was saying earlier, you know, music was the music videos

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were having this more futuristic look and we got to give it up to the

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television shows that were being born.

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And then new year because all these new music videos and different, um, visuals

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Were like videos were a must Oh, yeah this time So there were some new platforms that

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came about specifically In the year 2000.

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Yeah, so and as we talk about these shows, I

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think it's really important.

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Um, the late 80s ushered in, um, sorry, the late 90s ushered in,

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um, the new era of the pop star.

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So this is when your, your boy bands are emerging.

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You have your backstreet boys is your Samantha.

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Shout out to Samantha Moomba.

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You got a Samantha Moomba.

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You got it right.

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You have Britney Spears, et cetera, et cetera.

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So you see these shows emerging, but specifically, um, in 2000, we have

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one Oh six in park, which is BET.

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Basically BET was like, we need a TRL over here.

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One Oh six.

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Tell me what

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DJ Sir Daniel: TRL stood for.

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Total requests live.

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And I don't know why they called the show that because it was a countdown

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show for my, wasn't it a countdown show?

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DJ Sir Daniel: It was a countdown show, but they also had like a futuristic

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aspect to it where you can hop online and you can go to the MTV website and

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you can make your requests on live.

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And if they, And they, you just see them pop up from time to time, like

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such and such in Nebraska wants to see, you know, Old Town, uh, whatever

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song they were popular for back then.

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And, you know, so there was that, that aspect of the virtual, um, computerized

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way of asking for songs instead of calling up to a radio station or

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to a video show for your requests.

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Now the computer and the internet is involved.

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See, I had no, I, I didn't watch.

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So I had grown, I was older, I was an adult, you know what I'm saying?

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So I didn't watch TRL.

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Unless it was somebody going to be on TRL that I really wanted to see but

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we of course on BET got 106 and Park So shout out to AJ and free Legend

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DJ Sir Daniel: free.

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Yes,

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AJ and free were legends and everybody came through 106 and Park It

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was kind of a it was kind of a moment in time and then um Lou Pearlman actually,

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this is the first season of making the band It came in 2000, and the first

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season of Making the Band was focused on Lou Perlman, who was responsible

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for NSYNC and the Backstreet Boys.

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And he went down in flames, he, rest in peace Lou Perlman, but he did a lot of

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real icky stuff throughout the years.

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He was making a band and I think he made Tel

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DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah, that was his band.

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Yeah,

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that was his band.

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So yeah, that was, uh, the premiere of Making the band, which

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eventually got taken over by Diddy.

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Um, but I'm taken

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DJ Sir Daniel: over by MTV,

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by MTV and then Diddy became kind of the face of it, but it was Lou

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Pearlman and, but that premiered in 2000.

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DJ Sir Daniel: How ironic.

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Lou Pearlman and Didier.

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Ugh.

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Wow.

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Yikes.

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But yeah, so those were, I and I.

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That literally, those shows really changed the industry.

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They did.

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They literally changed the industry and we, we definitely

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have to talk about reality shows based on making people pop stars.

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We do have to get to that topic, yes.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Because Some of them were successful and some of them were

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not so successful . So we did, we, so we definitely got that coming into the

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year 2000 and shout out to BET May, um, 1 0 6 and Park was off of 14 years.

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Jay Ray, that's a, that's a, that's nothing to shake a stick at.

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That's, that's a long time.

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Yeah.

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And 1 0 6 and parks survived.

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The abrupt departure of their big of their main hosts They literally survived that

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like that was a big deal because for it for most other shows That would kill the

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thing because aj and free were so closely attached to the format but Making I'm

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sorry, uh, one oh six and park survived it and they were able to continue on we

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got roxy and uh, Terrence jay and so yeah,

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DJ Sir Daniel: we got bow wow Jay Ray Bow wow to his credit.

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He when he calls himself.

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Mr.

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106 in part.

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He's not being um, What's the word?

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Um He's not being, um, hyperbolic, hyperbolic.

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That's exactly where I was looking.

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I like that.

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He's not, no, he's not, he's not capping young people.

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He's, he's not capping.

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He really was Mr.

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106 in part.

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Like he grew up on the show and then ended up being a host on the show.

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So yes, um, you literally watched Bow Wow grow up.

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Um, and one of the things that, You know, we saw 106 and Park and TRLJay

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Ray was a lot of fashions Jesus Christ, I know that fashion Is cyclical?

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And a lot of things come back, but i'm not looking forward to those.

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Um, 2000s fashions Jesus Christ.

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There was some choices that were made back then.

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We might have the same one.

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That's awful.

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Those big ass white tees that like went down to your knees.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Yes, the extra the two tall to

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the two tall tees and then And then I'm gonna give a

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runner up when Nelly and them St.

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Lunatic showed up with like the, the, the, the, the tape under their eyes

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combined with those super huge jerseys.

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I was over my life.

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No, that's not cute.

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DJ Sir Daniel: I, you know, I'm so glad you mentioned Nelly because something

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just came to me that a lot of you.

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And I'm going to include myself in this was, um, was

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guilty of this boys and girls.

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I don't know if you can imagine it, but I had a lot of hair back

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in the early two thousands so much so that I had straight backs.

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Yes.

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And at the end of those straight backs were beads.

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Yes.

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So every time I turn my head, you can hear cracking.

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So that's, that's one offense.

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That's one egregious offense that I committed back in the 2000s.

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But then Jay Ray on top of that.

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I was rocking multicolored do rags, of course, how could you, how could you not?

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Because the do rag was a part of your ensemble, right?

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Your do rag had to match your oversized, um, throwback Jersey and whatever.

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Um, law, they weren't even shorts.

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They were like short pants.

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They were, they went down to your ankle.

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And, um, not only did, and so not only was the durag, the durag wasn't

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always tied up like it was meant to be.

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The durag was flared out underneath a big ass cap to make it look like you had, if

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you didn't have, um, braids or straight backs or, or locks, the durag was like.

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Boy hair, because I saw a lot of people flipping back to do right.

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Y'all did it.

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I was there.

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I saw it.

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I saw y'all do it.

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Don't try to act like you didn't do it.

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But yes, that to me, that's one of the more egregious fashion, um, choices

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that we made back in the, the two thousands along with, um, a lot of

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business casual wear in the club.

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And.

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Yeah, I thought I thought so.

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I literally was just um, I went down a rabbit hole about this this thing because

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um, I Remember, you know, I was going to the club then you know what I'm saying?

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Um, and One of the things that I have forgotten about are the dress codes

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that they had the clubs didn't want the hippity hoppers coming into their club.

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So you had to look like you had some good sense in order to go to the club

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and it was like, Oh, that's why we was wearing business casual because

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the clubs, we have to remember y'all hip hop wasn't the culture yet.

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Now hip hop is everything right?

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So everybody is trying to look like a rapper back then you were trying to look

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like you were a nice safe business person or a student who wouldn't wreck your club.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Picture it.

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The page boy hat cut to the side the oversized frames.

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Yes.

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Um, Jay Ray the vest the vest the vest the vest over the button

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down shirt and down shirt with the collar open with the collar open.

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But the best with the best was was buttoned up and your shirt

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underneath was flared out on it.

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Oh my God.

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It was so terrible looking.

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It was.

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So I was going to the

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club we was going,

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DJ Sir Daniel: we were going to the club and I'm

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chunky shoes because they weren't sneakers and you couldn't

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do Tim's at a lot of places.

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So you had to find a shoe that was sneaker like,

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DJ Sir Daniel: yes, like those sketches of those, um, hammer

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Steve, Steve, Steve Madden's.

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Yes,

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Steve Madden.

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DJ Sir Daniel: Steve Madden, my God.

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I do not look back.

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The way I look back fondly on 80s fashions, I do not look back

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fondly on the year 2000 fashions.

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I don't know how women were walking around because all the jeans

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back then apparently, nothing, everything had to fit below your hip.

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Yes.

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So everybody had like, Like jeans that went right above their crack.

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And if you didn't have a flat stomach, you were just, Oh, here's what the girls did.

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If you didn't have a flat stomach, what they would do is.

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They would have like this, um, a tight camisole

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Oh yeah.

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That came down.

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Yes.

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That came down

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DJ Sir Daniel: to the, to, to their jeans to, to go over

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their not so flat stomach uhhuh.

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And then they would put on another tight shirt above over the camisole.

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It was a mess.

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It was a mess.

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You guys.

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Um, yeah.

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Thank, thank God for deliverance.

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Oh, an evolution in fashion and that you don't have to live through

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that anymore, but you can experience it listening to Queue Points.

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You can experience it listening to Queue Points and no

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shade given what's going on in 2025.

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We might be going back to that.

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So y'all might be going back to business casual in the clubs.

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Just saying, but listen, y'all thank you for tuning in as we refreshed

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your memory for those who were there and informed you about what it was

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for those who weren't about Y2K.

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If you like Queue Points and you are seeing us and you are

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DJ Sir Daniel: We absolutely do and as we always say at the end of the show

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in this life, you have a choice You can either pick up the needle or you

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can let the record play this because there are no numbers on the ends of

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But I'm DJ so Daniel I'm Jay Ray y'all and this is Queue Points podcast dropping

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the needle on black music history We will see you on the next go round.

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Peace.

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Peace y'all