In this episode of How Leaders Think, Kenny Lange sits down with Preston Zeller (Founder of Psalmlog) to talk about how grief reshapes your priorities, relationships, and leadership.

They unpack the “race to victimhood,” why pain can fuel either growth or entitlement, and what forgiveness actually looks like when life hits hard. Then they pivot into AI + biblical guidance—how to build responsible tools that support spiritual formation without replacing God, community, or wisdom.

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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-leaders-think-with-kenny-lange/id1434737807

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2wKtzb6KaF1vNlG9TsZkzh

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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KennyLange/podcasts

Website: https://howleadersthink.kennylange.com/

Preston Zeller Resources

Website: https://zellerhaus.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/prestonzeller/

Instagram: prestonzeller

Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/6B0oUz6sfKs5IRicVFV0Yb

Books Mentioned

The Only Leader’s Worth Following — Tim Spiker

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