• In this episode, the Beth and Mel delve into the fascinating concept of timelines, exploring how different paths and choices might lead to similar outcomes.
• They discuss experiences that suggest the convergence of life paths and question the extent of free will and destiny - drawing parallels with cultural narratives like the film 'Sliding Doors' and the Netflix series 'Umbrella Academy,' pondering if multiple versions of ourselves live out various potential realities.
• The conversation touches on how visualisation and intentionality can impact real-life outcomes, citing personal experiences and the significance of pivotal life choices.
• They also explore the idea that there may be a convergence point in our lives where all past decisions culminate in a single direction, suggesting an alignment with a higher purpose or destiny.
• Listen in, it's a good one.

00:00 Introduction and Greetings

00:12 A Weekend Retreat and Timelines

01:15 Converging Timelines and Destiny

04:35 Quantum Realities and Free Will

08:14 Seasonal Changes and Reflections

10:17 Visualizing Future Timelines

15:59 Empowered Choices and Higher Self

22:21 Train Tracks and Life Paths

33:54 Conclusion and Call to Action

Good morning. Good morning, Mel. I

wanted to talk today about timelines. Ooh, yeah, let's

do that. Just go straight in it. Yeah, let's go.

I was at a retreat this weekend. Yeah.

So when we're recording this, we've just hit the equinox.

And I was at a retreat and it was really odd

because the venue eventually got booked and.

And I didn't know where it was going to be. And it was where I

used to go to school. Like, it was literally down the road from where I

used to go to school. And I was like, oh,

that felt interesting. And then my mum says to me, why don't

you come and stay with me? Because obviously

she's not far away from there and where I am is

quite a bit further. So I was like, well, I could do. And

then suddenly I'm looking at the journey. I'm like, I am doing the same

journey that I used to take from when I was a

teenager, when I was about 15, when we moved into that house.

And I was doing the same journey between

home and school. And I was like, there's something going on here.

And when I just closed my eyes and was like, what's this

about? I got this real image

about timelines that I. That when I

left school, I had all of these openings, potentials, opportunities

available to me now, I could have gone down any of the roads, and the

road that I went down was the one, obviously, that's

led me here today. But it felt as

if whatever timeline I would have gone down, maybe

not anyone, but certainly a few

options, I would have still ended up in that

retreat on that day, doing

what we did. Yeah. And it was like the timelines

converge together and there I was. It's

almost like when you look at, like, underground

station lines and maps, and if you've watched

the recent Umbrella academy, I don't know if you've ever watched

that. In the last season, there's this subway. The subway

plays quite a big part of that and they're trapped in

different timelines. And they spend seven years on the

subway trying to try out all the different routes to get

to where they need to be. And it takes them seven years to find that

as well. I think there's something about trains and tracks and the fact that

it's going in one direction and there's lots of

folks off that. That really brings that timeline to

life. Yeah. And there's that film, sliding doors,

isn't there? That train. So maybe that is it.

But the plot thickens, right? Because I

then was looking on my Facebook memories. And

five years before, I

was the same weekend. So the same day that I'm talking about all

the timelines, I'm looking on my memories,

and I've written this post. So

five years ago was the day that I had been invited

by Kyle Gray to assist him

at his event. And at that time, it was like, the biggest

deal for me. It was. I was like,

I don't know. I'd foreseen it. If you read my book, you'll know. Like, I'd

foreseen this event happening. Like, I saw once on a

stage with him, and I told him that despite

thinking he's gonna make Armand Nutter, which maybe he

did invite me on stage. And I

remember on that day we were helping out. I didn't know I was going

to be on stage with him at this point, but we were helping out his

certified angel guide event. And, yeah, it was the biggest deal. I was

like, oh, my God. He trusts me, recognizes me. I

really have a lot of respect for Kyle and his work and everything that he's

done, and I've learned so much from him. And then we're sitting there. There

was six of us, I think. And then he said, oh, I want you

to meet my angels. And he called us all up on

stage. And as we are walking up on the stage, I had

the weirdest feeling, like, this deja tzu

thing. And how I described it in my post

was, it was like five timelines all came together

into this moment. Oh, wow. And then here we are five

years later, and I was like,

what is going on?

So, naturally, I've been thinking about

that and quantum realities and timeline

potentials and destiny and fate and

dharma and choices and free will, and all of that stuff

comes up. Because if it's true that we had different

timelines, and if it's true that we,

there are moments that feel like they were

destined or come to happen, then how much free

will and free choice do we have? And

could I have said no to that event, for example?

Yeah. And then what would have happened? Yeah, I think

probably another opportunity would have presented itself.

Until you decide to take up the mantle to get

you where you. Wherever you're heading. Or maybe the

universe would have kept on conspiring, because this event,

what's interesting is there was multiple opportunities for me to come

and join it. And I did it. And I remember the first opportunity,

I was like, no, I'm not. I just finished the retreat

and we're putting on another one. I didn't know when it, where it was going

to be in the world. And I'm like, no, I'm not.

And I felt like I really wanted to,

but I made a choice to know. And there was like these

kind of, and then all of a sudden, I literally,

I remember saying yes, I was, I should put out a message

or post or something. And

I found myself just writing for no reason,

where's the PayPal link? Because she was like,

just play on PayPal. And I'm like, there's no PayPal link. I was like, where's

the PayPal link? And she's, oh, are you coming? And I'm like, apparently. And

it felt like that, it felt almost like it was my choice, but it

felt like there wasn't a choice. It just felt like something in me

when I'm, okay, where's the PayPal link? And

I'm like, what are you, what are you doing?

But the event was incredible, and I learned

a lot and had a lot of

realizations about things. And I

feel like I'm a different version of me

now. And the

course prior to the retreat was called New Era.

And I feel like maybe it was the work I did, maybe it was the

timelines, maybe it was the equinox, maybe it was the seven year

cycles. Because I'm in a seven year in my

life cycle, just at the beginning of a seven year

cycle, maybe it was

just, this was meant to be always. This was one

of those pinpoint moments

that my soul was like, do just like with Kyle,

just like however many other. Just like when I,

and actually, I'm thinking back now, when I learned Reiki, it

was this time of year. Yeah. Do you get that? Where things happen

at a certain time in the year? Because for a long time, for me, that

used to be April. April was the start of new things,

always. I noticed that. I've probably not noticed it

recently, but a lot of things would happen. And I think it's interesting

with Facebook memories is that sometimes when you're reading

them, or even if you just, even from 1110 years ago,

whatever, it's almost like we're in the same kind of energy. Have you noticed that

when you read back in memories, it's like the same kind of thing? So

I think there's maybe something in that as well, which is really interesting.

I think so, like September, I think September for a lot of

people, certainly in the UK,

probably parts of Europe, September does feel like a new year

because it's the new school year here. So we all

get and in the jewish faith, the

new year is normally September, so it comes up

next week. So it's October, actually, this year.

And I, and it, and I remember once thinking,

why is the new year in January? When I was at school, I remember thinking,

why the new year in January? Why don't they just make the new year on

the 1 September? They're all in the

northern hemisphere anyway. We've all had the sun. We're all feeling good. We're all,

like, energized. Then it's, yeah, New Year, new

Year. Whereas in December or January, you're like,

oh, I just. I can't noom anything. I'm just.

I think, like, September time, the leaves are starting to come

off the trees and things like that. So you can physically see the change and

transition as well. And I think a lot of it is our willingness

to also go with that change at

that time as well. So, I don't know, it feels more.

You can visually see changes outside in

nature, but also we can feel those pulls and pangs of change inside

as well at this time of year. It's a nice. I like September 11. It's

a nice time of year, isn't it? Just walking to school this morning, and

just as we got into the. It's beautiful there. Schools, trees everywhere.

And we're just walking. And as we walked into the school, there was

this gust of wind and loads of leaves fell down. I was like,

oh, fall is falling, and I'm here. I've got, like, my

mustard. Yeah, yeah, our terminal clothes

on. It just feels like that change. So maybe it

is something to do with this turning of the wheel and the turning

of the year, and that brings something up. Or maybe

it's just me and my. My rhythms that find

it in this. These timeline conversions

in September or. I don't know. I don't know

what it is, but what I've been thinking about is

how, okay, we're going to go. We're going to go wicky wacky now. Okay, let's

go. Let's go. So those are the words that

came out of my mouth. It felt like timelines were merging.

Yeah. So if that is the case, does

that mean that there are. And quantum theory

definitely suggests this, that there are multiple

versions of me currently

in a reality somewhere, having

made different decisions, maybe living in

different continents, maybe living,

doing very different work. Maybe. Maybe one of

me just has a. Doing the same thing and I've just got a purple top

on instead of a. Is that the case? Is that what that

means, do you think? I think the fact that we

thought it means that it must exist, because it's like visualization,

right? If you've got the thought of something

that you really want to do, the fact that you're having that thought, the fact

that is part of your consciousness to me, means that it's a

possibility. And therefore, when we visualize that

and we can see that's a very in a possible

moment, it's just that the person that we're embodying right now

isn't there, but it's still existing. So I do believe that we've got

these different timelines and there are so many different

directions in which we could have traveled. So,

yeah, I do believe that there are multiple. And I think I've spoken to you

before about physically. Sometimes I feel like when I look at myself like I

am on a different timeline, like I visually see the shape of my face

is like. And I feel slightly different, which might sound

really weird to other people. I'm okay with it, though. When

I started my work doing psychic readings,

that was what I would often find. So when

I doing readings, it's like I connect in with your higher

self and I look at potentials and then we land on one, which

is timelines, which is okay. This is the time I was very

much. I don't do future predictions. Whilst I could

often see where it was we were going, that wasn't what

was of interest to me. What was interesting to me is

what's your highest timeline, your highest potential, based on what you want,

needs, desire, and then how do we land on that?

And often it's small changes, small choices, saying

yeses or nos to things. And then maybe there is a

part of you that says yes or no, but you, I don't know, you sometimes

get that feeling, don't you? Like you've said no to something

and. You just know that you should have said yes.

You should have said yes. And maybe there's a version of you coming in now

I can look back through my life and think of many things that I said

no to that I'm glad I said no to, and that I said yes to

that I'm glad I said yes to, and versions of the other way around.

Now, this timeline converging thing, I'm like, what does

that even mean? So my initial thought of that

was if there's, say, seven versions of me and

they're all moving along, seven who are on these

similar paths, that we're going to converge here, there's seven versions of me. If

we think of that as soul, that the soul is

spread over these times and they're doing all of the things, and

maybe we're gaining all of the experiences and

information and insight of these different. That when

these timelines come together and converge and they reach this meeting

point, it's like all of me's,

all of those aspects of my soul, maybe those fragments, I'm not sure

they're fragmented, but facets of my soul are coming together

into a meeting point. And it's this moment

is a very pivotal, powerful moment because I've got the

fuel and the understanding and the experiences

of all of those versions of me coming. And it's

okay. Now, which one are we taking now we need to

be very intentional about what is it

like, what future am I creating? What legacy am I

leaving? Am I creating and leaving behind? Where? How

clear am I on my purpose? What is it that I'm doing? And it's

like all of me is now fueling that. Yeah.

And my job, it feels right now, is to remain super

conscious and focused and

open to choice

and saying yes or no or this or that

and having all of that behind me, like all of me behind. Do you think

that convergence comes sometimes when

you've almost. I don't think exhaust is the right word, but I can't think

another word, but almost exhausted all the other timelines in terms of your

yeses and your nos and you're chopping and you changing and that now they

are like, you've done everything that you could have done in all of those timelines

to maybe prepare yourself or to

avoid it or to go for it, but you've got it wrong, and there's been

some level of failure, but you still continued on, and then there's that

meeting point. I'm literally just thinking out loud. I'm thinking

out loud, too, because I've been doing a lot of this inquiry in

my mind, and sometimes I get these real. It's almost

like this soul level understanding and my humans.

So this is helpful, just having that, trying to

articulate something which is actually quite bound. But

it just feels to me that we make a choice,

and the other choice, the equal and opposite choice,

also happens on some level. And so maybe

that's that regret. Oh, I know she's having the best time

ever over there. And I know I'm like, you just know it

somehow. And can you make the wrong choice? I'm not even

sure that's true. But free will suggest, suggest to me you can

make choice none of it is wrong, but it might go against your

desire, or against your values, or

against your potential. But

that choice wasn't wrong because there will be learnings along the

way. It's almost like there's a level of alignment at some point

that is outside of the conscious control. Let me just explain

that. So, for me, the example that you

gave where you asked for the PayPal link, and you didn't really know that you

were going to do that, but you did that and you went, okay, that's what's

happening. That's almost like where we've, we're going

with the flow, we've loosened the control. We're just,

we're just following the direction of what we're doing. For

me, that was when I handed my notice in on the job, in my

job, and I didn't know I was going to. I literally woke up in

the morning not realizing, that's what we're gonna do. I hadn't had a

conversation prior with my partner. That's what I was gonna do, is literally

in that moment, something went, I don't wanna do

this anymore. And it was like a channeled, I don't wanna. I'm

not here for that. That wasn't the rational

me. I'm not saying I was being irrational, but I

was being very rational because I was actually doing the thing that my soul was

calling me to do. But there was a lot of things that came before that

where I could have got a different job or I could have

gone down a different route, and it took me, I can't even remember, like six,

seven years for me to then be

in this flow state of, I don't want

to do this anymore. But that wasn't me. So that, for

me, was a convergence of all of the times and opportunities and

chances that I have had to get off those

rails and literally join a different station to go on a different path

completely. I think there's different levels, isn't there,

of, we have free will, we have conscious choice, we can

make choices, we can go down any route we can. But then

maybe it is the higher power stepping in and saying, okay, you've done

all of the things we know very

strongly. This is where you want to go because we're sending you the messages, you're

hearing the whispers, you're hearing them now. Let's

just, you know, give you a little nudge.

Oh, it was that simple. It was that easy, because it is easy. It's almost

like a, why on earth did I not ever

heed the call before. Why didn't I just send that email

on and then off again? It's very subtle,

easy. There's no resistance, there's

no nothing. It's just a clear channel, almost like a train

tunnel. Through this tunnel here. Yeah. I'm just seeing that image

of the connectors that you get on. That's what I was seeing in my.

Head somewhere on wherever it is that we're going and the stops

along the way. And it's just brought up for me

quite how intentional we can

be and how that can actually really serve us.

Because if it's true that all of these timelines are moving along

in the right, in the same direction, or in

various directions, then I can't make the wrong

choice because my soul's going to learn all of those lessons anyway.

But if I. So I might as well hold

my highest timeline because I'm going to be experiencing all the things

anyway. So I may as well human me, human version of me.

And the human version of me is the one perhaps that creates

those impacts and that creates those ripples.

And the ones that, the one that actually, if you imagine

having a hundred thoughts in your head, they're all there, they all

exist. All of those thoughts exist. But it's the one that

you speak out loud, or it's the one that you pick

thinking of the Harry Potter of Dumbledore's wishing thinking

plot thing. It's the one that you pick out and go, this. That

is the one that actually manifests

in conscious reality. So maybe it's the same

thing. Everything exists, just like every thought in your head exists, just like

every emotion exist, just like when I'm making a decision

and I have my fear telling me one thing, my logic telling me another

thing, my parents thoughts that I hold

in my body telling me another thing, my societal

expectations telling me another thing, my higher self telling me another

thing, my ego telling me another thing. Like, we have all of these things going

on in our minds and they all exist, they're all there, right?

But it's the one that I go, yep, this one that creates

my current physical reality, which then influences

you. The part of me that said yes to yes, let's start this

podcast is the part of me that's sitting here, which now has an

influence on you, which then has an influence on

even the algorithms of the whole Internet have now changed because we

said yes to that, even subtly. And then the lives of

anyone who might listen to it, who just has one aha moment, who then

just goes off and does something else. So they're the ones that create the ripples,

whereas maybe the other timelines are like these

other. They're like these other veils or these other

dimensions where things are just pinging out, but they

don't have as much echo

ripple. Does that make

sense? It does make sense. I think it's good that we're doing this

inquiry and really thinking about all of these different aspects.

It's almost like at some point, there is no

other choice. Like before that point, we've had

lots of choice. We could go down one route or the other, then all of

a sudden, all of the choices have been made. There is no other

choice. Like, we've done the inquiry, we know what's right for us, we know

what's wrong for us. And so the natural, it's almost

like all of the traffic lights on the train track

all have turned to green, and some of them might have been red before, some

of them might be in amber, some of them might have been green, but then

all of a sudden, all of them are green and there is no other

route to take next. And then timeline

convergence. And when the timeline converges, it's like all the

carriages are linked now. Yes, we're only doing

that line, we've got all the fuel, we've gained the momentum, we're

moving through. There's nothing. There's nothing crossing

that path for the foreseeable, which going to, yes, get

those lights to go red or making us having to slow down or

being overtaken or undertaken or whatever, it's just

that. And that doesn't mean that there are different

scenes and different passengers on the train and different

choices about whether we have a tea or coffee or sit in first

class or regular, or on the

driver's seat. Like there's still going to be choices in there. But yes, it's like

now. And I feel that. I feel like the breakthroughs that I

had this weekend, which were quite around

my business, but they went out further than that. Now

I feel like I've got no other choice to

now continue along the

decisions. No, it wasn't even decisions I made

continue along the breakthroughs and the realizations. And it's

almost as if I've come out of there with a new

identity up leveled, if you like

identity that now feels more

fuel. It's like there's less indecision

to that has to be made. It's like everything's

coming along for the ride and I do. So you're

the same as me, right? We do a lot of visualization work, especially with our

clients and the power of that,

as we, I often say, and I'll often

bring people through, for example, into a future timeline.

Yeah. And then even if they're making a choice, we can look at the two

future timelines of the choice. And what I

always feel in that moment, especially when I'm doing

this personally, when someone says to me when

I do these rituals, which I'm connecting with

my future timeline, it feels like she is already

in existence. She's already there. I wouldn't have been

able to visualize her or experience

her if she wasn't in existence on some

level. And so all we're doing

as we do that, and then we're like, okay, she's

wearing this and she's feeling like this, and she's doing this and this is what

she's saying and this is who she's with. And then you start to

backtrack, you start to reverse engineer what was it that

was going on and then realize that you're coming back today. And then it's,

oh, okay. The answer was yes or no. And that's the one that's going to

lead me there. It's not an imagination. It's not. That would be

nice. It's like more if you thought it, if you can

conceptualize it, it's there. Which is why, and why I

love how you work, particularly Beth,

with visualizations and scripting, is that you're making it

even more of a reality. It's like, how do you feel? What are

you doing? What are you telling? What do you feel? It,

all of the things that sit with it, which is then bringing

it more into the emotion, the

sensual dimension. And then all we need to

do is walk that into

material dimension. Yeah, literally.

If you can see that, if you can feel that,

then you know what it's to be there.

Like, you can be there. That version of you exists. Otherwise we just

wouldn't feel excited about that, right? We wouldn't feel excited about the way that

we look or the way that holding self, or the way that think, smell, or

the people that we want to talk with. It just wouldn't exist in

that. Why would we be given this carrot

of this is available to you?

And then, yeah, it's just working back from that.

I literally call that process the one step back action

plan, because it is literally just

identifying. Sometimes you might not be sure, like, what is the full

process. Step after step, you might come up with something over

here and something over here, and you might have to move things around the page,

to put them in a particular order. And even if you don't put them in

the right order to begin with, just the fact that you've taken that step,

sometimes the next clue drops in.

Yeah. I love that we're talking about timelines today and

that whatever version of you that you

dream of, that you visualize, that want to be, want to

experience that is available to you and

everybody, whatever that version is for you.

And it's about those baby steps

and saying yes to the opportunities or saying no to the

opportunities and being okay with that, too, that the time will come when

things converge and come back together. As long

as we're moving forward in some

respect, then we will get to that final destination. How

fast or slow is another thing, but even that when we're going

at a slow pace, that doesn't be nice. Yeah.

I don't necessarily believe that things are

predestined by anything outside of what you are. I think that

for me, it seems my whole mission is this

ability to help people to be able to take their highest

version, timelines, whatever that is. And that means. And

that doesn't mean necessarily, oh, I'm going to have the best

life in the world, because my version of the best life isn't going to be

the same. That values driven, that true understanding of

who I am and what I want and how I serve and who I'm

becoming, which I do believe we. I'm not sure

this is a destiny, but I do believe that we set that course in action

before we incarnated on this earth. I do believed that we came

down onto this earth with this. This is what I, you

know, the conditions that I have, and these are the things that I want to

learn and understand for this lifetime, at this

time. And maybe there's versions of me that are going

around doing other things, but I think the point for me

is the human me, the one that is really

fueling this soul, because our soul can be fragmented. But

the one that has the. That's voicing, actioning, speaking,

doing, rather than. And just the thought is the one that's going,

okay, I'm gonna keep saying, yes, I am gonna

push those boundaries of what it is that I've known. I am gonna

listen to those fears and those judgments and those doubts and

go, okay, what are you, and how are you wanting to help me

and assist me? Because I think there's so much golden magic in that, I think

where we often go wrong, and it's almost

like how we're programmed in this day and age is

you listen to your fears and your doubts and your worries and all of those

things. Things. And then what we're doing is we're listening to them. And so

we're manifesting that timeline, which still has

gold, it still has lessons, and maybe that's it and you. And you can

learn it that way. Or maybe because if I

go down my fear route and that's my timeline, I'm sitting and listening to

that, I am going to learn so much, right? I'm going to learn about what

I'm scared about, I'm going to learn about the empathy around that. I'm going to

learn about maybe the courage and the

strength it takes to come in and come out of that. And so it's not.

That is wrong. But I also think that if I'm coming into

my highest timeline and these fears and these doubts come in and I look

at them and go, hey, what's the lesson? What are you teaching me?

What do I need to know? Then you're having that same growth,

but you're having it whilst you are making the

decisions from that more empowered

choice. And so it's then I'm having the

transmuting fear timeline, which is going off in one

direction, and I'm having the activated higher self me

thing that's going on. But when I take the activated higher self me

version, it brings the fear,

doubt and the lessons I might learn going down

that into a more, if you like,

higher frequency space.

And maybe because I was. There was many times where I was

like, not sure terrified the right word, but

doubtful about the decisions

of going this weekend and of staying with. At my

mum's. Yeah, I'm away a lot, but not loads, but I'm away

more than I have been with the kids and stuff recently. The things that

have come up this weekend, I'm like,

but I think if these opportunities would have come three months ago

without all of those yes decisions coming for

me, I wouldn't have been

ready to be where I am, where I really feel

like I'm that steam train and I'm full of steam and I've

got all my wood and I've got everything, and I'm about to go on that

run to Hogwarts, on the Hogwarts Express,

fueled and ready. I love that. I'd like

Thomas the tank engine, but with Melissa's face at the front, not

Thomas on the track. I was talking about

Thomas the other day. My kids, we used to. Oh, they used

to love my brother. Used to love Thomas as well. Do you think it's

a coincidence that, like, one of my favourite, like, mom duty

was creating the train tracks, like the wooden train.

We had such a. Which I'm going to buy more, and I would literally

create these masterpiece wooden train track

adventures around the house. And actually, we sold it all

recently. I was a bit. I hung onto that train track.

My kids have not played with that train track for at least three years. And

I'm like, no, you can't get rid of it. It's the best thing.

They didn't care. Is it coincidence that

literally. When was it? Like a month ago, probably?

Oh, yeah. Start the summer holiday. So a couple of months ago that

I said goodbye to them all and all of my Thomas the tank

engines. So, yeah, maybe one day,

actually, Beth, it came up on my memories the other

day that I was at the Thomas experience, where they

get the tank engines at the. The old

stations on the steam train. And it was like a couple of weeks ago,

maybe even less than that. So clearly trains

timelines, because the. I

don't know if you've been watching the night sleeper

on BBC currently on right now, it's about a train that gets taken

over cyber security. And then my daughter was on

a train yesterday. She had to sit on the floor because there were no seats.

She was very disappointed. All of these train things going on.

I love that we've been talking about timelines today, and maybe we'll continue that.

That another time. Another timeline,

if you're listening. And you now, I have

questions. Mel and Beth, send them to us.

We will happily jam on that. Who knows what will come

out. But, yeah, we'd love to know.