We know how much you all love a good Mindset episode! This one really delivers. Our guest this week is Nicola Kinnard-Comedie of NKC Equestrian Training. Join Kim and Cara as we explore Nicola’s unique hack to breaking through your mindset blocks to get results and forward motion.

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Nicola Kinnard-Comedie  (Msc, BHSAI Int. SM) is the owner and founder of NKC Equestrian Training, delivering training to both horse owners and equine professionals alike. 

Nicola has developed some outstanding online training for horse owners focusing on Horse First Aid and Equine Nutrition, all produced together with qualified vets

Nicola is a qualified riding instructor and has over 20 years industry experience, and now uses her coaching skills to assist equine practitioners. Nicola decided to combine her experience of equestrian science, sales and marketing, and teach this to others. 

Building a mindset for success has been crucial to grow and develop NKC Equestrian Training. Feeling the benefits of this first hand led Nicola to train as a Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) Coach, as well as practitioner skills in Time Line Therapy™, Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT or ‘tapping’) and hypnosis. Nicola works with veterinary physiotherapists, massage therapists, osteopaths and other practitioners across the world to help them build their dream business.

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Hey there business animals. It's Kim with

Be More Business,

and Cara with Fast Horse Photography. Good

morning.

Good morning. You know it might not be morning for

our listeners. So good afternoon. Good evening. Good

middle of the night.

I always just assume it's morning somewhere.

Well, I'm sure it's morning somewhere. And

speaking of morning somewhere, it is early here for us. But for

our special guests today. It's not so early in the day because

she's from the UK. So we're super excited to have a guest

here today and I'm gonna let Cara introduce her but you guys

know how much we value mindset and understanding how mindset

affects your business. And that's our topic of discussion

today. And we're super excited Cara why don't you tell them all

about our guests?

Absolutely we are so excited to welcome to the

show today Nicola Kinnard-Comedie and she's the

owner and founder of NKC Equestrian Training, delivering

training to both horse owners and equine professionals alike.

Nicola has developed some outstanding online training for

horse owners focusing on horse first aid and equine nutrition

all produced together with qualified vets. She's a

qualified riding instructor and has over 20 years of industry

experience and now uses her coaching skills to assist equine

practitioners. Nicola decided to combine her experience of

equestrian science sales and marketing and teach this to

others. Building a mindset for success has been crucial to grow

and develop NCK Equestrian Training. Feeling the benefits

of this firsthand led her to train as a neuro linguistic

programming NLP coach, as well as practitioner skills and

timeline therapy, Emotional Freedom Technique and hypnosis.

Nicola works with veterinary physiotherapist, I hope I said

that right massage therapists, osteopaths, and other

practitioners across the world to help them build their dream

business.

Well, guys, thank you so much for

having me. It's lunchtime here in England. And it's absolutely

lovely to be joined by you guys today. So yeah, thank you very

much for having me on the show.

Yeah. So you've already been up and had

your day going and Kim and I are sitting here and we're like,

still rubbing the sleep out of our eyes and getting our morning

routine going.

Yeah, I'm I'm up and going with

Wednesday. Yeah, we we've reached the halfway points. Yes.

Uh actually, this is my peak time for doing stuff. So you've

caught me at a really good window for energy and quietness

in my house. So yes, this is opportune time to get me guys.

So really nice to see you guys today.

Oh, well thank you very much. That makes

Yeah, you too, and I have to say we didn't

talk about it right before this, but you're our first guest we've

had for season three so far. So we've had a very chill season.

And so we're super excited to have a guest join us on the show

again, not just Kim and I today.

me feel extra special.

So why don't you start before we jump into

our big three and our topic for the day, tell us a little bit

about your business story. Like how did you become an

entrepreneur in the equine industry?

20 years industry experience, which makes

me feel about 300 years old, but I've been I've been around

horses for a really long time. And I had a little gap in full

time horsey work. And I worked for a corporate company in sales

back in 2015. I was working for them. And in 2017, I was feeling

really miserable. I had one child who I absolutely adored,

and I hated being away with my job all the time. And I really

wanted to get back to doing something horsey and I just felt

a calling to help more people. I loved teaching one horse and one

rider at a time, but it had its limit. And I just wanted to do

more. And I wanted to work flexibly. And that's how I

accidentally started my business. And I really hope this

story inspires people because I was at my lowest point totally

and utterly miserable, couldn't see a way forward desperately

racking my brains for a business idea and of course, that's never

when you can come up with an idea when you want one. And I

remember sitting on a beach in Greece feeling totally

miserable. I hated the way life was going. Just the daughter I

adored, just was not spending enough time with her, wanted

this bigger impact and then it was a few months later I had

this idea to run a horse first aid course. And at this point,

this was just a fun distraction. I create an event on my Facebook

page, which had about 50 followers, which was just a few,

pretty much all my friends, nobody really thought for

business, it really wasn't a business, then I was just doing

a little bit of teaching, and I sold all the tickets. And I was

like, Oh, this is really fun. And I knew a lot about sales and

marketing from my corporate job. And I was like, Oh, this is

cool. I'm mixing all my skills, I'm adding in the science, and

I'm helping wholesalers and I can work flexibly, but it still

didn't feel like a business. And I gave up my job because I was

so miserable. And then my business took off. And I think

it being an accident, it not having to work straightaway,

because it was just fun. And it was just addictive. And I just

ran course after course, then I developed other courses in a

conference. And here we are almost five years later, a real

happy accident. But it only happened because I took that

first bit of action. I had no website, no branding, quite

frankly, no clue. But I had a passion. I had a passion, and I

took action. And I really hope that story inspires others. If

you've got an idea that's in a notebook or in your head, what

could you do with it? Like, what's that first baby step of

action you could take, I really credit, tiny, but continual

steps with my business success. And I really hope that inspires

people to move off the sofa to do whatever it is they would

like to start moving forward.

Well, I think sometimes that first step is the

hardest part for a lot of people. And that's that kind of

leads us into what we're going to talk about today is just that

getting your mind in a place where you can be in a good place

to move forward with a business idea, or even just a small

little spark that could potentially be a business idea.

And I love your story. And Kim and I in episode one, we talked

all about how the accidental entrepreneur and where we

started in our businesses. So I think that a lot of our

listeners can relate to that. And the idea that is their idea,

something that could grow into a business and getting themselves

in a place that that mentally they're ready to take that next

step. So that's where we're rolling with today is we're

talking about mindset, I don't know about you Kim but it seems

like when I look at what our listeners are enjoying the most

from our podcast, and the shows that we put out, they love

anything mindset related, our listeners are loving the idea

that they can work on their mindset to help grow their

business. So Kim, do you want to add anything? Before we jump

into our big three

I do, I just want to say our listeners are

enlightened. And that's what I love about this, they really do

understand that business, especially small business

encompasses more than just the act of doing business. Its

mission, its passion, it's so much mixed in to the experience.

And just as you've talked about in your own story, and Cara and

I share that similar story, there is a lot more under the

surface of running a business than what appears to be that

way, when you first cook up that idea and mindset to me, is at

the heartbeat of that. So yeah, and so we have a big three for

everyone today. Number one is mindset blocks do affect your

competence as a business owner. So if you have a block, or if

you are struggling with your mindset, a lot of times what

walks right alongside that is struggling with your competence.

And Nicola is going to help us understand the difference

between a block and a barrier when it comes to our mindset. So

that's our big three number two, and then she has a wonderful

strategy that can help you get through these mindset blocks

that you have. So that is her timeline therapy strategy, and

I'm super pumped, and I know you're gonna want to hang around

to hear her talk about that. So without further ado, I'm gonna

let Cara ask a couple of questions, but we'd love to

know, how do you feel about the mindset blocking your

competence? How does that relate for you?

Like that is so essential to

business, Kim, as you just said, and my goodness, I wish I'd

known that sooner. I knew some stuff about mindset from

coaching riders, but I, I really thought business was just the

busy work. And it was just all the strategy. And yes, of course

you need strategy. But if you don't believe the strategy is

going to work, if you don't really feel worthy of the

clients of people buying your product, whatever it is, you're

marketing your business, there is no magic strategy that's

going to overcome those beliefs and those blocks and it really

is the ultimate mix mindset and strategy together which really

makes all the difference. And confidence, Kim as you

mentioned, is something that a lot of people come to me saying

they just feel stuck you know, they've got the skills they have

skills and certificates hand over fist there's all these ways

they can help horses and often other animals as well, generally

dogs. And they just can't quite get out there. They, they don't

know how to tell people what they do they know that it was,

you know, common sensical, it'd be really sensible to be working

with vets and other professionals to get referrals.

And they are just really struggling to take that step.

And quite often, it's confidence on some level confidence in

their ability that worry what other people will think that's

really, really blocking them. And it's something that I really

love helping people with.

I think that that is huge. I do some

mentoring with other photographers, for example, and

a lot of them are great photographers. But the thing

that's holding them back it feels like a lot of times is the

confidence aspect. They don't know how to or feel comfortable

charging people, having sales conversations in general. So

that seems to be the biggest, like their work is they're,

they're working on the business side of things, but there's this

one little piece still, probably what we're moving into talking

about blocks and barriers, this one little piece that's there

that's making it really difficult for them to move to

the next step of success in their business. So absolutely. I

think that mindset and confidence is one of the biggest

things that I see when I'm talking with entrepreneurs and

they're struggling. They might come to me for another issue,

and then what it boils down to is mindset and confidence.

Yeah, I see that all the time. People

often say to me, hh, how do I get clients? What should I say

on social media, and then it comes down to they feel really

awkward about money. They don't want to be portrayed as salesy.

They're worried about sometimes the fear of it going wrong, but

quite often, oddly enough, it's the fear of it all going right,

which puts people off. So yes, if we can just identify some of

these blocks, release some of these blocks, get in some new

programming, some mental programming and new belief

systems and then add in the strategy, well, then that's when

people are really flying. That's like the magic zone. And I just

love helping people to get to that place.

Nicola, can you give us some examples of how

you've seen in the work that you do mindset show up as a problem

with folks that you're working with, or with other business

owners or even in your own personal experience? Could you

give us an example of what that looks like for someone?

I could give you a ton of examples Cara,

I really could, I gotta give you two key ones. One is my biggest

block that I had, which we'll get to talk about blocks and

barriers, this was a huge barrier, was time. I believed

that I did not have time to create the business I wanted. I

didn't believe I had time to hit the income goals I wanted. And

then all I did was tell myself, I didn't have time, I was really

stressed. I was not actually getting much done. I was just

kind of like hyper, not hyper focus, just hyper. And I was

just stressing and wasn't really getting much done. But I just

kept telling myself, I just haven't have time, and I'd see

other people and I'd be like oh it's alright for them, they've

got more time. And I, you know, I've got two young children. And

that was a handy excuse as well and was just a self fulfilling

cycle because it just kept telling myself that I didn't

have time. And then what do you know, I would just go to decent

work phone or drink, somebody would knock on the door, I'd be

interrupted all the time, things would just come up, left, right

and center to just prove me right that I didn't have time.

So that was a huge one that I had to dismantle and work

through. The other favorite I see all the time is around

money. Now we could talk money blocks all day. But how I see

money blocks showing up in people's businesses, and I bet

the listeners can relate to this, is what I call random

discounting. Now this is big with my practitioner clients.

And I can imagine it also is quite big with photography as

well as other businesses. Somebody asks your price, let's

just say the price of your service is 50 pounds or $100.

And you haven't said the price before you know it boom

outcomes. Oh, it's 40 Oh, it's $90. And you've just whacked a

bit off for no good reason at all. And when I talk about

random discounting, like a masterclass or if I'm presenting

at a confidence, I just always see these faces just go oh, yes,

that's me. It's so so common. And yet actually, when we work

on why we feel like that about money, why we feel like that

about charging and are worse, it stops. And it's so powerful

because you don't get that in a supermarket. You don't get to

have at the gas station. They don't say oh, for you, we'll

just knock a little bit off the price is the price. So why

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Well, not only are you crippling your

business, but you're making your life harder, because I remember

times when I was first starting, and I was dealing with

confidence and pricing, and I do remember doing what you call

that random discounting. And then I'm in this place where I

have to remember oh, my God, what did I tell this person? And

what did I tell this person? What was I going to do? You

know, and you're making your job so much more difficult than it

needs to be?

I do too.

You'll tie yourself in a knot massively

Yes. And you set your prices for reason based

on your cost of doing business, hopefully, and so there's a

reason that your prices are like they are so you know, it's like

that confidence around that is so key. So that's a great

example. I love that.

I mean, there's plenty of others. But

yeah, random discounting is a real one. I think another quite

common block I see is not believing that the clients are

there, like not believing that people have the money to spend

in your business, whatever your business is. And I just love to

send people particularly in the horsey world examples of where

people are spending money left, right and center in the horse

world. It's really important that we do believe that the

business is out there that the clients are out there and people

want our services.

Yeah, one of the things that you and I talked

about a lot in the prep for the show was identifying what is a

block, so something that would be easier for you to move, and

what is a barrier. So to me, barriers are things that are

tied to a whole bunch of other things. So I imagine a barrier

as this brick wall. And there's lots of little blocks of bricks

that make up this giant wall that stopped us from something

and then there are small blocks that we kind of tripped over in

our business. So can you share with our listeners, your

thoughts around that? And maybe how they can identify what is a

block and what is a barrier?

Sure Kim, of course I can, now to

answer that question fully, what I just love to do is very, very

briefly, very simply explain how our mind works. So if you think

of your mind, you've got two parts, you've got the conscious

part where we are aware of what we're thinking, that's the part

that goes, oh, goodness, we must post that letter or goodness, I

mustn't be late to the podcast interview. Anything we need to

be really aware of that subconscious mind, because

that's the bit that we're most aware of, we think that that's

where it all happens. But actually, there's a whole nother

part to your subconscious, your unconscious mind, which is where

your emotions, memories, beliefs, everything really is

stored and your subconscious is responsible for up to 97% of

your actions. So it's pretty powerful stuff. And to me blocks

and barriers really relate to subconscious and conscious parts

of our minds. Because I see blocks as being things you know,

you put up that really well Kim like little throwing stones or

things you know, stumbling over. To me it blocks are often things

we're aware of like it might be, you might have a tech blog, I

think that's happened to all of us at some point, you know what

you want to do, but you're not quite sure how to do it. Or you

might have a block around whacking the particular vet or

something you just can't quite you know, you need to do it. It

just keeps kind of sliding off your to do list. But you're kind

of consciously aware that you're not actioning it. For me, the

barrier is so much more deep seated, you described it so well

Kim is a brick wall, like it's really hard to break it down.

Not impossible, but it's going to take a little bit more work.

And for me, the blocks quite often are a bit sneaky, and to

just exist in our subconscious. And how I teach mindset work is

in two ways, one to be aware of your thoughts. Because when you

start tuning into what you think you might well be surprised how

much of it can be quite negative, it's generally the

same thoughts. I think of them as like CDs, like back in the

day, I when I was a teenager, I thought it was so cool. Had a CD

player took three discs at a time, and it would filp between

them. And that's how we think of the programming in in our minds,

maybe more than three CDs, but just you've got these set CDs,

and it's just flipping between them. And for the barrier. I

think that it's in those old programming. We've not even

aware it's there until we go digging, which is the other way

I like to teach mindset work, go digging to find out what you

actually believe. And for me, this is how we can identify the

barriers. And in my time analogy that I was just talking about my

time example, I was aware that I had an issue of time, but when I

dug down into it, I didn't realize it was so deep seated

and it was so tied into actually what I could achieve in business

having small children, what I can achieve in business as a

woman, what I could achieve in the horsey world. It was really

it was a real pain. It was really multi dimensional. And

that was a big barrier. So that's I think is another way of

looking at blocks and barriers whether you are consciously

aware of them or you're not how deep They go, and how much how

many kinds of layers of old programming do we need to sort

of strip back to release? That's where I think is the best marker

of a barrier.

That's excellent. That is an excellent

description. And it's an excellent conversation I think

people need to become aware of is looking around to their life

and seeing where they're running into those blocks and where

maybe the block is leading to a bigger barrier that they need to

start chipping away at and working towards. I am so excited

for the next part of our program, where you talk about

your timeline therapy strategy, because I absolutely loved the

very short conversation we had about this. So I'm super happy

to hear that. What do we do with all of this? We want more

confidence, we want those blocks and barriers out of our way.

Share with us some of your wisdom around eliminating those

out of our lives.

Yes, sure Kim, I'd love to. So

identifying the blocks and the barriers is definitely the first

step. And I'd love to share with the listeners that sometimes you

can feel a bit disheartened actually, I certainly did. When

I uncovered all these thoughts. I didn't know I had, like, I

described myself as a really positive person. And then it's,

I felt like I sort of slit my myself open. And I was like, oh,

no, I have all these really negative thoughts. Ah, I don't

want to think like this. I was really disheartened. So I would

just love to just advise your listeners, if you start kind of

digging and you don't like what you find. Please don't worry.

That's the state exact same happened to me. But there is a

way forward and timeline therapy, which we're going to

discuss now is one way that we can start to release some of

these blocks and barriers and to chest start feeling a little bit

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So timeline therapy is a gentle

technique where we can look back at the past event, we don't have

to go back into the event, we don't have to reimagine, say,

falling off a horse or something I don't know a sad day at school

in your childhood, you don't have to get into it, you're just

going to watch it from a safe distance. But what we are aiming

to do by looking back in this event is take the key learnings

because the reason that we experienced the similar events

time and time again, the reason confidence issues hold people

back or they continue to find themselves in events, which just

reinforce that they lack confidence. It's to me, it's

like your subconscious is waving a great big flag or tapping you

on the shoulder going, hey, you need to solve this, I'm going to

keep reminding you again and again and again, until you

basically fix this until you go and do a bit more work on this.

So timeline therapy allows you to look back at events and take

the learnings take the lessons from whatever that point in time

was so you can then release it. And I find that such a powerful

way to just let go and change programming because with our

subconscious mind, we say we've found, someone decides they've

got the same kind of barrier and blocked a time that I had, you

can't just like will yourself to feel differently, you can try it

just doesn't work as effectively you need to get in like I

described your subconscious mind as being like the set CDs

playing, you need to kind of get in there take out one of those

old CDs from the 90s from the 2000s and put in a new one. And

timeline therapy is a really effective way to do that. So

what I'd love to do is maybe talk through how this technique

works, and how people can have a little play around with with

using this technique themselves. It's helped my clients so much

That's exactly what I was going to ask

Oh perfect timing then fabulous.

Yeah, that was perfect

Amazing. Say when you identify a thought

that you don't want to have and I suggest to start off maybe go

with what they're working on the moment. So what is your goal,?

Everybody if you're for this month, for example, and then you

go, okay, this is my goal. And then what I'd love people to do

is just get a piece of paper, and I call it going to the dark

side, just for a few minutes actually write down all the

reasons that you, you don't want to acknowledge that you feel

actually you can't do that goal. You can't have those sales, you

can't meet those new clients, you can't have those number of

people visit your store or shop. You don't want to acknowledge

that because you're trying to be positive all the time. So get

all that out on paper and see which one feels like your

biggest block. And then you'll probably find a theme, maybe

it's confidence, maybe it's time, maybe it's around money,

let's just use those as some examples. And then the real

trick is to go back to the origin. So what is the point in

time when you decided, let's use confidence that you weren't a

confident person, because all of in some point, you know, babies

are not born lacking confidence, babies are like, wow, hey, I'm

over here, feed me cuddle me, there is a vote of confidence.

There's some point, you know, whether it was really young

years, or whether it was as a teenager, or even as an adult,

when you decided that you actually feel quite safe to

speak your mind or say that you wanted to, or someone told you,

That's amazing.

you were shy or you lacked confidence. And then that's how

you then behaved since that event, so we need to go back to

that origin story, that first event. So using this technique,

which I'll just run through in a moment, we're going to go back

to that event and take these lessons. So that's what I want

people to do, first of all, find a block and trying to think,

okay, when did I first feel this. So how timeline therapy

works is close your eyes everybody, this is how I find

easiest way to do please do not close your eyes, if you're

driving, obviously pull over to do this is to just picture your

past, your present right now listening to this podcast and

your future, it's gonna form some kind of linear formation.

For me, it goes left to right, like I'm reading a book for some

of my clients, it goes forward to back, it may go diagonally

doesn't matter. But what I want you to do is close your eyes,

because you're definitely not driving and look down on this

line of events that you know have happened. So maybe there's

a past holiday, or Christmas or birthday or something. Or maybe

you could line up family pets or animals or relationships, you

can see these events in a line. And you're just going to hover

way above this line, this timeline could be tiny, could be

like the size of a pen or a ruler, because you're right up

here. And then when you found your origin story, for whatever

block you want to shift or change, you're just going to

float along, until let's just say it's a you're at school,

let's just say you're five, and you're at school, and someones

laughed at you in the playground because that's when you decided

you weren't very confident. You're going to just float along

until you're looking down on this event. There you are in

your school stuff, age five, six, whatever you were at

starting school, and you can look down, you're not you're not

being your old self, you're just looking down this little version

of you. And all you want to do is just ask your mind, what do I

need to take? What can I learn from this event, and I find

people get the most amazing downloads and takeaways. They

might be something like I was just nervous. I was just quiet

that day. I was just unsure. I was just thinking and maybe

somebody else took over maybe that's the point when someone

said, Oh, she's just she's just shy. I'll tell you what she

wants. And when you can see kind of see what happened. And you

can get those learnings you can then apply them to your life and

business right now. And I've used this strategy with so many

of my clients and it works so amazingly well with one of my

clients, Amy who really, really struggled with her confidence

when we first started working together. We went back to a

really early event where she felt like she couldn't say she

couldn't get the words out. She couldn't say what she wanted to

say. And the takeaways for her were I just couldn't get my

words out. Like I didn't lack confidence. I just got my words

in a muddle. And somehow I decided that I couldn't then

speak in the future, like couldn't say what I wanted. Or

it was a big drama to say what I wanted what because she could

then take away for her business was actually I know what I want

to say I'm not a small child, no one's going to interrupt me.

I've got a platform I can speak. People need to hear from me and

she was like a different person. This is something she struggled

Yea so so powerful. Another great

with for years and she's changed so much just as a result of

using this technique. It was just

example client called Marry I can't even remember what we were

looking at in the first place. We were looking at one feeling

one emotion she wanted to shift we go to an event go to action,

old memory, get some takeaways and out of nowhere comes it's

not safe for me to be in business, and it was, I had like

goosebumps listening, because I was like, wow, if you feel that

deep down, and this is such a great example of a barrier, she

had no idea she felt like this, she does, she's trying to get a

business up and going and talk about being like, you know,

opposites in your body like a massive internal conflict. So

this is huge, and it's not safe for me to be in business. And

then actually, she was able to get some more downloads out of

this. And she was then able to start reprogramming her mind,

actually, it is okay to be in business, it's safe, I got

control over this, and this and this and all the positives that

there are, but if we haven't managed to uncover that, and

again, another great example of a barrier because it was so deep

seated in there, and she kept getting frustrated and

procrastinating and not taking the action that she wanted all

the time. And then it's no surprise when that's what she

felt like deep down underneath. So that was another great

example of how powerful this technique can be.

That's really incredible. So I was thinking

about this, just while you were talking in what happens when the

barrier or the block, I guess, I would say is something that is

derived from not necessarily a single incident, but maybe a

systemic societal oppression or a something that you know you

mentioned, you know, I'm a woman, maybe in my culture, I

haven't been set up to be a strong business owner, maybe

I've been directed to other areas throughout my entire life.

Can you do the same type of work when you don't have something to

necessarily pinpoint? Because maybe it's been a lifetime? Or

it's been, you know, something that's been kind of constant

throughout your life that's been ingrained?

Yeah. That's an amazing question. It

really is. I mean, the first thing that comes to my mind is

some of these barriers are kind of like an iceberg. Like that,

you can just think you've got it like it's just the tip, and then

you start chipping away. And then you uncover actually, as

you said, it's like a systemic belief that has come from all of

these places, and you just don't even know where to start. So if

people feel like that, and let's use the example of feeling like

as a woman, you can't quite have what you want in business, like

it's a man's world. It's not a place for women, if that's the

kind of thoughts that maybe it will identify with some people,

I would ask people to just try and think when they think about

that belief, is there anything that springs to mind? Because

quite often, yes, that will have come from multiple sources over

many, many years. But sometimes it's the smallest snatches of

conversation. In our youngest years, it could just be

something like you overheard the edge of a grown up conversation

where maybe one woman said to another, oh, goodness, it's

really hard working, or just the smallest thing. And it could

have just been part of a bigger conversation where they said,

oh, it's hard working when the children are small, or it's hard

working because my husband's away at the moment or something

like that. But we you just heard this tiny snatch, and then you

made a decision about how things would be for you and ran with

it. So I would really encourage people to just sit with that

feeling and see if they can pinpoint one little part to kind

of go to and yes, for some blocks and some barriers, you

need to go from multiple angles, multiple ways, particularly the

kinds of beliefs which we have acquired over time, and have

been reinforced again, and again, you know, you mentioned

Cara, you've heard it from friends, you've seen it with

parents, friends and media, every kind of TV program going

is reinforced that message, it's going to probably be a slower

process, but not impossible.

Well, I would think a lifetime of programming

wouldn't be something you could instantly get rid of. But I like

that idea that you can think about the issue that you've

identified and just find one place to start, you know, so I

love that. Thank you so much for sharing that. And for answering

that question.

When you were there looking down on that

offense, you can also ask yourself, Where can I go next?

Like what other event relates to this, when you're in that frame

of mind sometimes it can be really valuable to just say, is

there another point I need to look at? Is, what's the next

memory I need to dig into and uncover? And quite often the

answer is present.

Now, would you recommend because you've

given folks some strategies, a little bit that they can do on

their own? And would you recommend someone seeking out

some therapy, professional help? Do you have any kind of thoughts

around that just to kind of point people in the right

direction? If they're thinking, you know what, I've got a block

I need to work through?

Yeah, definitely start working on your

mindset in some capacity. If it feels like a big block, and you

just don't know where to tackle it. 100% go and get somebody to

help you with it. Just like training a horse. It's so much

easier with help. Why would we struggle on our own if you had a

new horse, you wouldn't expect to be able to I don't know take

it and jump at 140 level overnight. You would, it would

be progressive, you'd get help. So do the same but if you don't

maybe feel like quite ready for that I really encourage people

to start doing some kind of work on their mindset, it will so pay

off.

Excellent Nikola, this has been such a

great conversation. One of the things we always like to do

before we leave the show is to think about the folks that are

listening, and can you share something that our listeners can

do right now to start working on their mindset, or maybe to start

developing a mindset that's going to set them up for more

business success? Can you share something that folks can do like

when they turn this podcast episode off,

I 100% can okay, affirmations quite

trendy people have probably heard of them it's an I am

statement, you know, I am an amazing rider. I'm a fantastic

businesswoman, whatever it is you want to believe. Now,

sometimes affirmations don't do the job. And I think the reason

for that is because we aren't quite feeling them. So if you

feel like your business is just you know, really not going the

way you want to, and you're trying to tell yourself night

and day, I'm a millionaire. I'm a millionaire. It's, you're just

not feeling it are you? So affirmations are really

powerful. For me, they work really well on both the

conscious and subconscious level if you personalize them. So what

I'd love everyone to do, as soon as they finish listening to this

episode is take all of your blocks that you've identified

and flip them over into positives. So you believe you

don't have all the time you're going to turn that into I have

all the time I need, I have plenty of time to work on my

business, I have all the resources, whatever it is, you

need to believe that you have turn them into affirmations. And

then rather than just writing in a notebook and leaving it there,

I would love everybody, we've all got the most amazing devices

in our pockets, our phones to just voice record yourself

saying 20, 30 affirmations, you know, you're trying to hit some

online, there's loads on my website, and just, but

personalize them, make them real to you, your goals, your

business, your life, they don't just have to be about business,

they could be about relationships, your family, your

children, your friends, but say them. Say them over and over

again, record it and then try and listen to that 5, 6, 10

times a day, you know, just a 5, 10 minute recording, you can

easily listen to that multiple times coming on in the

background. while you're driving. It could be on while

you're cooking dinner, walking the dog, whatever you're doing

about your day, but trust me the actions that you will take when

you believe that it's all happening are incredible. So

whatever it is website, visitors, sales, downloads or

something, just tell yourself hundreds of people have visited

the sales page. 1000s of people have joined my email list,

whatever it is you want. Just tell yourself it's happening.

Listen to yourself saying it again and again and again. And

then just watch it happen. Watch yourself take more action than

you ever thought possible. It's literally just like a magical

spell, it really is so powerful. And I would love everybody 10

minutes out of the day to go do that straightaway.

I love that that is such an easy, it's an

easy thing that someone can implement and then see change

from so one of the things that I did this earlier this week, I

had a shoot that I was very nervous about, I have certain

times during the month that I'm less creative. I'm just gonna

leave it at that where I feel mentally less creative. And so I

put a reminder on my phone, and it was very simple. It was it

was you are a creative person, and you have great ideas. And

you will make this successful. And it popped up about 20

minutes before my shoot and it was just one of those silly

little I'm showing you my phone. But it was one of those silly

little like reminders that you set, but it's supposed to be for

an activity and it popped up on my phone and I looked at it, I

was like I got it. So it's just super, super silly thing.

And imagine if you'd heard yourself

saying that like 10 times for the whole week before. It's

great. You know, phone reminders are a great way to use

affirmations

Use your tech,

Just yeah, double down on that 10

times it and it really is so powerful. And I'm really glad

you've had to play around with that as well Cara.

Nicola, this has been amazing. Thank you so

much for helping us walk through the big three and giving folks

strategies that they could do right now. I would love to give

you an opportunity to tell folks a little bit about your program.

Do you mind doing that?

Of course Cara. Thank you so much.

So the program that I offer for equine practitioners is called

the Expert Academy. It's a 12 month group coaching program.

And it is designed as you could probably guess to be mindset and

business strategy. It is designed to help practitioners

fill their diary, increase their income and stop those feast and

famine months, which really derails so many people so what

we do in the program is we offer eight core modules plus live

coaching each and every month. So I support you for 12 months

and just watch people change before my very eyes. So more of

the same deep subconscious work we've been talking about today,

uncovering those blocks and giving people strategy that

works to build their business.

Thank you so much for joining us today. This

has been a great conversation and I think our audience will

really enjoy it as well. Can you tell folks where they can find

you online?

Well, thanks so much for having me

guys have been great. And so come find me at

nkcequestrian.com. On Instagram, at nkc_equestrian. And on

Facebook, at nkcequestriantraining. Come say

hi, tell me how much you like the show what you're

implementing, I would really love to connect.

Excellent. And we'll make sure that your

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