"Work is greedy. It will spread over your calendar wherever you don’t stop it."
In this episode of Lead with Culture, Kate Volman sits down with Bree Groff, workplace culture expert and author of Today Was Fun, to explore what it really takes to make work more joyful, without relying on happy hours or ping pong tables.
Drawing from her years of experience advising leaders at companies like Microsoft, Google, and Target, Bree breaks down why we’ve been sold the wrong narrative about work, and how to rewrite it for ourselves. From redefining productivity to embracing humanity at the office, this conversation offers a refreshing lens for anyone who’s ever counted down to Friday.
In this episode, you’ll discover:
- How to rethink “fun” at work (hint: it’s not mini-golf)
- The simple mindset shift that helps you reclaim Mondays
- Why thin-slicing your day can help you spot joy in tough roles
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Things to listen for:
(00:00) Intro
(00:28) Can work actually be fun?
(01:56) Why Bree wrote Today Was Fun
(03:11) Reframing the role of work in our lives
(06:08) Fun as a function of value creation
(08:56) What makes work “fun-able”
(13:20) The leader’s role in shaping joy
(17:44) The consulting story that changed everything
(24:14) Generational differences at work
(30:58) The danger of equating work with worth
(34:45) Rethinking remote culture and always-on schedules
(38:11) Leading with humanity
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