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"I want to see the guys that help build a company and the guys that are out there in the field...have something to fall back and be proud of, who they are. They're the backbone of this country."

       – Stephen Van Der Merwe

In this episode of I Am Northwest Arkansas®, host Randy Wilburn sits down with Stephen Van Der Merwe, founder of iHawl, an innovative excavation and civil construction business based in Northwest Arkansas. Stephen shares his remarkable journey from farming in South Africa to building a thriving company in Prairie Grove, Arkansas. With a blend of "old-school grit" and modern technology, iHawl is committed to delivering on promises, meeting deadlines, and shaping the land for the next generation.

Listeners will hear how Stephen’s background in farming, sports, and a strong faith shaped his work ethic and business philosophy. He details how iHawl started as a small side business with a trailer, hauling debris, and grew into a leading construction company by focusing on reliability, teamwork, and groundbreaking technology. Stephen also talks about the importance of “blue collar rising” and how iHawl supports team culture, community engagement, and career paths for both young and experienced workers in the trades.

Key Takeaways:

  • Grit and Innovation: Hard work, patience, and faith built the foundation for iHawl’s growth and success in excavation and construction.
  • Embracing Technology: Using advanced tools and machines, like GPS-enabled equipment, helps iHawl save time, avoid mistakes, and finish projects on schedule.
  • Community Commitment: iHawl sponsors local sports teams and invests in education and outreach to encourage new generations to join the trades.
  • Blue Collar Rising: Stephen believes blue collar work deserves respect, recognition, and strong support for workers and their families.
  • Opportunity for All: Whether you’re a young person considering the trades or someone looking for a career change later in life, there are rewarding jobs in construction.

All this and more on this episode of the I Am Northwest Arkansas® podcast.

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Tired of contractors who overpromise and under deliver.

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Today on IM Northwest Arkansas podcast, we're spotlighting

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a company that's redefining excavation and

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civil construction in our region. IHAWL was born from

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the fields where dirt and water management came

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naturally. And today they're blending old school

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grit with game changing technology to deliver

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precision and reliability. And on every project from

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Prairie Grove to Bentonville and beyond, I Hall

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is shaping the future of construction in northwest

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Arkansas. Stay tuned as I sit down with founder

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Steven Vandermeer to talk about his journey

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from South Africa to Arkansas and how I Hall

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is proving that being blue collar means being

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bold, innovative and ahead of the curve.

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It's time for another episode of I Am Northwest

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Arkansas, the podcast covering the intersection of

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business, culture, entrepreneurship and life in general

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here in the Ozarks. Whether you are considering a move to

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this area or trying to learn more about the place you call home,

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we've got something special for you. Here's our host,

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Randy Wilburn. Hey, folks, and

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welcome to another episode of I Am Northwest Arkansas. I'm your host,

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Randy Wilburn and I'm excited to be with you today. I've got a great

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episode with another great entrepreneur right here in

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northwest Arkansas. That entrepreneur is Steven

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Vandermeer. He is the founder of iHaul. They are

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an amazing construction firm that is doing some

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incredible work here in northwest Arkansas, moving dirt and

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everything else in between. And we're going to hear his story today on the I

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Am Northwest Arkansas podcast. Stephen, how are you doing today?

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I'm doing wonderful, Randy. Thank you for having me. Absolutely, absolutely.

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You know, Stephen, your journey, and we had a chance to talk about this before

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this particular episode. Your journey from Cape Town to Prairie

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Grove is remarkable. How did those early

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farming and equipment experiences influence

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the way you run? I haul today? Yeah, it's, it's

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been an incredible journey for sure. There's a lot of, of

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highlights. You know, you look at the view right now and you

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think it's. You enjoy the view, but you got to remember the

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hardship and the things you had, the challenges you had to deal with to get

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to where you are today. I'm very grateful for, for my

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early farming experience. Born and raised, grew up on a farm in South

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Africa and I came over to the States in 2014,

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worked on an H2A work visa for

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a few years on the farms in northeast Arkansas. Mostly dead rice

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and soybeans and corn. And I

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always go back to basically where my roots came

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from and that's farming. We were Told from a young age,

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hard work combined with faith and a lot of patience

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in farming taught me what, what I know today and

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has brought me to where I am today. We never gave up going back to

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South Africa. I played a lot of sports, a lot of individual sports and

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team sports. Individual sports helped me a lot, build my

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confidence. But also dealing with, you know, if there was something

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with the let downs, if there was a mistake or I didn't

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play well, it was mine. It was mine to own, it's mine to

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better. And then also playing in a team format. That's why I always go

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back to how important is for kids to play in sports or be

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involved in some type of team

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formation to learn these qualities. Because

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somewhere in life you're going to either use your individual qualities

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or you have to bring that in to be part of a team. On

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the farming in northeast Arkansas, it taught me

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a lot about, well, first of all, America. I had the

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great pleasure of working on incredible farms where we were working

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90 to 110 hours a week on the crops.

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A lot of people don't understand what goes into farming. It will humble you

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very quick when it comes to, to work and to hard work.

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The way I run aisle is based upon all those qualities that I

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learned through my time in South Africa, my time in the States.

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And combining those two, I think has given me the opportunity

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to form something incredible like iho. So

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yeah, that's basically on, on those qualities, on both,

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best of both worlds to combine them. Yeah, I, you know,

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so I want to unpack this a little bit. I do want to go back

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when you were living and growing up in Cape Town. Did you ever

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like, was America like a place that you aspired

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to go to or. I mean, you know what I'm saying in terms of like

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just your origin story, was that something that you were like.

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That's where I want to eventually go. Because I think you took, you brought

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a lot of the foundational tools and skills that you had

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from South Africa. So like hard work translates in any

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economy, in any location. But I mean, you

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brought farming knowledge, you brought a lot of things here to the US

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Was the US like the only place you were considering going or

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was or how did that work out? To be honest with you, it was never

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a thought of going aboard. But

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our culture is. The next generation takes over the farm.

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That's kind of how that became. There was a whole story before that,

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you know, professional rugby, a lot of injuries

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led to, well, I've got to, I gotta go do something. It's other time for

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me to go back, join my dad on the farm and take over the farm.

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At that time, he wasn't in a state or he weren't ready to

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hand over yet. So what typically happens is

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the next generation farmer comes to the states on a H2A work

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visa, gain, you know, first world knowledge on technology, on

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farming, and then be able to take it back home. So

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we decided that was the next step. And two years later

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in America, that's when I met my, my wife Brittany. And

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I've never looked back, to be honest. I love that. And she's from

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Arkansas, right? Yes. Yes, sir. Okay. Okay. That's awesome. I love that.

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So I haul started with just a trailer and

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hauling debris. What was the moment that you realized

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that this was actually going to become more than just a side hustle?

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Right, because we're all. I mean, it sounds like when you started it, you were

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like, yeah, you know, I could probably make some extra money here or there. And

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I think anybody can relate to that because we're all looking to add

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some more money at the end of the month. But at what point did you

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start doing this with a trailer and just hauling debris where you were like, you

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know what? I could actually make this into something. It wasn't really

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a moment where I realized that. It was a moment of I don't have an.

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I don't have another choice. I have to make this work. And I put all

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my faith in Christ. Then I, I

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was lucky enough to be connected or surround myself with

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incredible people that not just that gave me

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work, but that motivated me to retire.

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You know, there was, you know, I owned my own chicken or

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poultry farm up in northwest Arkansas. And I felt like that was

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always. I was limited to what God wanted for me. And

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when this door opened, I'm never look back

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to, oh, this is, this may work out. I made it to where I don't

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have a choice to make it work. And I basically put all my eggs in

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one basket. You know, we grow up and we were told, do not do that,

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but I don't have a choice. I went in with,

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I don't have anything to lose. And if I lose, then

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onto the next project or onto the next adventure. I

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had friends that I reached out to particularly. Basically

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one friend that I reached out to and he had a, a tree business

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and he would give me. It just happened to call

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me and said, hey man, I took some trees out, I need a yard fixed.

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You know, these people need their backyard graded Back out.

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And without hesitation I went and bought a skid stir.

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Because I didn't, I never looked at the risk.

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I just went for it. And a backyard turned into,

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you know, doing their backyard, building their patio, building their

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flagstone patio, doing their flower beds. And

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friends moved and bought a property was like, you know, can

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you come clean or clear our trees out, build us a driveway?

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And it was just, I never said no. And I always chased

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whatever was available to further myself.

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And I did 38 week long jobs

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in a year. So I did 38 jobs in

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52 weeks. Basically on and

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in between all those, I did, you know, odd things here and there. But

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I know my pastor, he was one of my very first, first clients

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that he ordered a load of mulch and I

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mean, you made 200 bucks. 200 bucks is doing a bucks.

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Exactly. I love that story, you know, and it's so funny. I spend,

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in my spare time, I spend some time on YouTube and there's actually, I've

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watched videos of people clearing debris

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or grading land, if you will. And you know, obvious in the

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south. So here and whether you're in northwest Arkansas or anywhere else,

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there's always going to be land that needs to be improved upon.

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And you kind of found a way where you were able to kind of take

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the best of both worlds when it comes to clearing

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land, but also giving people, improving that land.

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Right. Because it's one thing to just clear it, it's a whole nother thing to

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improve it. And you've kind of found kind of that happy space in

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between where you get to do both. Yeah. You know, you normally say when

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you, when you're a kid, you know, I like playing in my sandbox. Well, my

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sandbox, I'm still playing the sandbox. It just got a whole lot bigger.

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And then back to the farming side too. Now I still do. What

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I loved about farming is, is the dirt train, taking

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the dirt, transforming something where hundreds of

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thousands of people are impacted by it in a positive way. You

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know, you create new businesses, you still play. We still have

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the equipment side of stuff. So that never left. That's what I loved about

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farming was always on the equipment. You still water.

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I find a very calming sense in war in water

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that I love and I've always loved water. I understand

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how water flows and when you can figure out how water flows and

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works with dirt, you have something special.

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Yeah, it certainly is a good combination. And you know, I've, and I told you

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this in our previous call. I've worked with Design professionals, engineers and

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architects for more than almost, I hate to date myself, but almost three

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decades. And I was always amazed at what the talent and

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skillset that they bring to the built environment. Right. And you bring

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you Steven as well as you as Ihaul bring

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that talent and skillset to the built environment where you kind

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of take nothing and create something out of it. Right. Because the

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raw land is sometimes when people. It's hard to have a

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vision for what something can be when you're just looking at raw land.

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But I would imagine that you have a gift where you're able to see

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the potential of ultimately what it can be. And when you start to

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rein in dirt, when you start to figure out water, which

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are two of the major aspects of any land development

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project, it definitely makes a huge difference. Yeah. You know,

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a lot of people don't. People, people see a building or a road

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and they don't realize what's underneath that what had to the

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planning. You know, years and years you look at a project, a mid sized

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project. Well, it may have taken two years to plan this project through

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the engineers, their budget, through the city to get everything

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just perfect to where it. You can take that raw land and

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make it and turn it into something unique. Yeah. You know, I have

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a friend that's a civil site developer and you'll appreciate this, but one

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day he was pointing out to his wife as he was driving down the road

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what, you know, ostensibly to the average person

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might look like a ditch, but it was actually a culvert. And he was

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explaining to her the, the value of having something like that on

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the side of the road. Right. And it's like we can't appreciate these things on

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a daily basis because we don't recognize in a lot of

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instances, you know, how much of a difference it makes for us. So,

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you know, I, I always tell that story because I think it's really funny. But

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you know what a culvert is. But the average person doesn't they think it, oh,

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that's just a ditch or that's just what that is. And so it, it

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does make a big difference. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

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So listen, one of your promises that you came up with is as you started

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hauling debris, you had a trailer. One of the things that you

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figured out early on was, you know what? I'm going to make sure my word

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is my bond. I'm never going to miss a deadline in an industry.

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Okay. Mind you, in the construction industry where delays are

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common, how do you make that happen at IHaul

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extreme amount of planning ahead. So we, you

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know, it's not just about dropping equipment and, and going. There's a lot

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after a project is approved and awarded

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from there on with us to make it happen with either a

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GC or an owner. There's a lot of strategic planning that go in

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especially in our office as well on from a computer

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perspective out to the field to then go and

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complete the job site. For how long we we had an

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estimate on doing this project for with what equipment,

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the crew, how many guys are in that crew. There's a lot of equipment,

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a lot of planning and obviously weather plays a big part in it too.

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As you know, wintertime, springtime is not very favorable

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for a site contractor. So summertime, it's

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200 miles an hour every day. You're trying to push

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doing a year's work into seven

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months basically. So in order to do

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that we have to prep way ahead of time. So

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never missing a deadline is also utilizing technology.

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I know in our first meeting we talked about technology as well. And having

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the right people to manage those and having really

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good crews in the field to complete those tests

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is something that we have always focused on since the beginning.

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Deadline wise. Obviously deadline is extremely important for

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GECs. For owners. If a project can finish

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sooner than what it was expected, it means extra money in that

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owner's pocket. They can open the doors sooner.

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Revenue can start coming in. When we are always asked on

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a standpoint of on a deadline,

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when, when do we think we'll. We'll be done with our work? We

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always give a almost an impossible deadline to

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challenge ourselves with either putting more equipment.

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Well, let's go back to. We have the iron to throw on

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a, on a project to knock it out and move on. Even if we

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rained out for a long period of winter

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springtime, we will double up on projects to stay

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ahead of. Of our deadline to keep the ball rolling. So I think

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we have, we make it a, a big point in our company

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to see every deadline through and to make that deadline

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and never miss a deadline. Yeah, I mean I think that

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approach is commonplace. Well, not commonplace, but it's,

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it's. I think it's the goal that most businesses have

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in this arena to kind of get a job done and throw as many

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resources at it as quickly as possible to get it. You know, and

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I'm always reminded of, I'm a big fan of hgtv. So whenever

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you see a flipper flipping a house, they try to throw every resource at

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that house right away to Turn it over as quickly as possible

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so that they can ensure that they're able to sell that

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property, make a profit on it and do all that good stuff. In the same

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way, people that own land have that same desire

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and hope that they can get control of whatever they need to get control of

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in the land. Because you can't build until you've actually done

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the civil site development work, which is the foundation of

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the work that I hall does. Yeah. And a big point of that

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is too is, is it's very important in a company to have those

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problem solvers. Right. Because you're going to have problems come up no matter in what

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business you are, you're going to have challenges and you, you need to have

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the right people in place to take care of those challenges

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and make things happen regardless of the challenge.

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Because you know, if we throw our hands up, we hit first challenge and we're

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behind a month on schedule. You need somebody to solve it. You

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can't just say well sorry, I'm going to move on to the next one. You

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know, you've got a signed contract, you have to make this happen. You mentioned

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technology a few minutes ago. Can you kind of give us an example of

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some of the technology that I haul uses that really

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not. Well that. Yeah, that separates you from everybody else. And

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the technology that you really lean on to do what you just described

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in terms of getting in and getting the job done as quickly as possible

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to deliver it back to the owner. So when I first started

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I didn't even have technology and it's.

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We added technology on the first machine and it was a game changer.

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Now with that being said, technology is extremely expensive.

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So it's not just something you can go out and buy from day

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one. To justify the expense and technology you

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have to utilize the technology for us. For instance, give an

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example on technology is if we have an excavator digging and

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it does not have technology. Our plans and our

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modules are built on what the engineers designed on a

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subgrade or you know, a one foot or a five foot underneath

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subgrade to then come back with select fill the

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whole. I won't go into too much detail but to describe the technology

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on that excavator might not have technology but you might have a

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dozer working across on a can acre site across the side. With

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technology. This excavator does not know how deep

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it needs to dig. It's basically they guesstimating

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how deep they need to dig. Now you have to bring that dozer all the

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Way from that, the other side of the, of the side

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over to this side that has the technology to now

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double check if the excavator is doing his job. So by the time,

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the timeframe that guy had to travel back across with

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that machine burning his time, burning your fuel just to

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come and double check someone's work and then have to go back all the way.

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If he's pushing in dirt or trucks are coming in now, he's behind.

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So utilizing technology all over the side with all our

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machines has given us the, the opportunity to meet

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those deadlines. Because you're not. Everybody is responsible for their

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job. They're owning their job. They have the tools they need to do their job.

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There's no one that needs to double check everybody on their

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job. So you're freeing up somebody's time or you're freeing

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up a piece of equipment or if we're putting in utilities,

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there's. You dig down to grade, you can come back up, you can

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put your bidding down, lay your pipe in. Well, with technology

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or without technology, it goes back to bidding a job

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too. We can bid a job on precise quantities.

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If you don't have technology, you're either going to dig that ditch

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deeper than what it needs to be. So you're going to have more material that

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you have to export. That's going to cost you more. If you have technology, you're

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cutting it to exact rate. So what you bid is what you export

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or what you bid to bring back in to fill that ditch up is

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exactly the same quantity. So if you count up all those

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things you can save on the technology is a no brainer

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and it gives a developer or a GC

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the peace of mind that we have the tools

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necessary to complete a job. There's not going to be, we have to

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come back and fix something. There's no, we're not doing it right.

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It's always, you have technology to fall back on. And I would

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imagine like in a lot of other industries, you guys are

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witnessing an advancement of technology

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at a pretty rapid pace. Right. So. Meaning that things that you had,

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tools that you had in your tool belt a couple of years ago could do

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one thing, now they can do something totally different. Is that kind of

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accurate? Yes. I mean our technology, I mean it is, it is

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phenomenal. I mean you can, there's so many things you can change on the job

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side. There's so many, you know, not always. Maybe the

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engineers missed something. That technology will pick it up too. If

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it's missed, it gives you A opportunity to

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basically throw out a red flag and say, hey, we might want to address this

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before it becomes a problem in the project. So it

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gives everybody enough time to be able to discuss

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what's ahead and it keeps the job flowing. Yeah,

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the technology that for the next five years will be

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totally different than what we see right now. And we're seeing

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some machines are starting to drive themselves and getting autonomous.

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I don't know how that's going to work with construction. And

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I know the mining industry is focused on that a lot

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more than what the civil side is right now on commercial. Yeah,

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I think it's still a while before we get into any of that,

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but I know for safety reasons and things like that,

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it's heading our way. Yeah, well, I think it also depends on exactly what

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you're doing. I've seen some stories about farmers in Iowa and other,

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other states where, you know, their tractors are

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GPS controlled and they literally just sit behind there and

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just make sure the thing doesn't run off into the street. But as long as

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it's following the coordinates that are set up, it's going to do exactly what,

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what it's supposed to do. So, yeah, I mean, that's what I did on the,

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on the rice farms in northeast Arkansas. You just sit behind the wheel, you don't

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even touch it. I mean, you just turn and you take a button, it goes

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back in line. So. Yeah, yeah. Now that's cool. So

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listen, you know, now that you've been here almost, you've been in

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Arkansas going on 11 years now and you've been

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up here in northwest Arkansas for a while. Tell me a little bit about

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how you are viewing like Prairie Grove specifically, because that's where you

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guys are out of and based and northwest Arkansas. Both are. All

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those areas are growing rapidly, right? All of northwest Arkansas is just growing

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rapidly. What role do you see I hall playing

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in shaping that growth? Because I mean, it sounds like you've had your

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hand in a lot of major projects. Probably some that people

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that are listening to this have either driven by or physically seen with

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their eyes. So what are your thoughts about just the rapid

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growth that we're experiencing here in northwest Arkansas and how

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do you hope to help in that process? Yes, our growth

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is very rapid. You know, they're, they're basically calling us the next

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Dallas. In the next 10 to 15 years.

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Fields that you're, you can see from the highway will be no more.

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As sad as that is, it's also good. It depends on

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how you, you know, how you look at it in our role

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that we play as a company in the, in the civil

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construction is with rapid growth

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comes a lot of responsibility. And responsibility is in

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everybody doing their due diligence and making

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sure projects are done and handled the right way

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where people can rely on a trustworthy contractor. So for,

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for instance, engineers, you know, I know,

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I know several engineers and I know they're small with work because

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everybody's pushing and we want plans back, we want this back.

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There's going to be mistakes made somewhere through the process.

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And to have somebody to where engineer can go, hey, iho,

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here's preliminary plans. We need a budget for it. Can y' all do a

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preliminary takeoff on yet to ensure that we did our due

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diligence to hand it over to an owner. So utilizing

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us in a rapid growth environment, I think

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we're very well adapted to do so. And then to see the

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projects through, you know, we're, we're growing. Our growth per

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year has been exceptional and we don't, we don't have any

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hesitation that it's going to stop anytime soon. So

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we'll go as high as the good Lord wants to take us. I mean, you

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know, I talk to a lot of planners and people

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that are looking at the infill development here in northwest Arkansas

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specifically and one of the constants that I hear

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from them is that we're going to grow. So that's like inevitable.

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The idea is that if we can either grow smart or we can

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grow and we're just kind of like, you know, putting one fire out

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after another in terms of a lack of planning. And

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that's, that's like the biggest issue. And that's why an organization like

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Ihaul and the work that you do plays a major role

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in how this area gets to grow. Yeah, absolutely. And

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our, you know, the cities with infrastructure, there's so much that goes

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on behind the scenes to make development possible.

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That's where we play a big role into. I mean you take some, a city

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like pre birth amazing city with amazing people in there

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in the city, small town, but you look at

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the next 10 years is going to be triple its size right

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now. But the infrastructure in there has to be set in place

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to make that possible. So I think

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with strategic planning and standing ahead of the curve

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in these cities are extremely important. I mean we saw

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up north where they had to shut down development for

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a period because of infrastructure problems. They had to

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catch up before development could continue. So yeah, there's a happy medium

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definitely in between the how fast we're growing in accordance

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with our infrastructure, are we ready for the planning

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that win behind it? I think so far, north Arkansas has done a great

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job. We've seen some incredible. And we have incredible people, from

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engineers to the city, every city's planning commission,

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city council, the engineers in there, the mayors,

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they've all done an exceptional job. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

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So I feel the same way. I just think everybody is

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really trying to make sure that we. We dot our I's and cross our

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t's as it comes to growth. Because you. You mentioned it. You know, we

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could become the next Dallas. Now, I will say this, there

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are some people that don't like hearing that, but it's almost inevitable.

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But my point is simply we can become a better

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Dallas, a better Austin. Right. You know, in terms of how we

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grow. And I mean, when we see that in a small scale, in

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smaller communities, you know, people are, you know, this is a small

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town feel. We don't want to grow. It's inevitable. You're going to

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grow. You're not going to be able to start development now.

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Making smart decisions through the city and bringing in the

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right developers to build the right infrastructure for these developments.

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Absolutely. But it's going to change whether

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as much as I hate to say it, but whether you like it or not,

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it's coming. Yeah, it is coming. It is coming

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for sure. You briefly mentioned your team, and clearly

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none of this would be possible because you're not a solo practitioner.

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You. You have a huge group of folks behind you that

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are really supporting you at Ihaul. And I want to talk about

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this concept that you shared with me the last time we had our conversation, which

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is this. This whole idea about blue collar rising.

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What does that mean to you and how do you instill

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that in your team culture at Ihaul? Yeah, we

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came up with the slogan blue collar Rising. You know, we also.

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A lot of our posts has the blue collar grit with technology.

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When you look at blue collar, I mean, there's a lot of different

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jobs. Plumbing, electric, site guys, utility guys.

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There are several different structures in the blue collar

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world. But for us personally is

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I want to see the guys that help build a company

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and the guys are out there in the field, and the guys and the girls

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in the office and in the field have something to fall back

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and be proud of, who they are. They're the backbone of this country.

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The amount of work they put in, the hours they put in, you know, I

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take our crews in the field a lot of them are working,

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you know, long hours, 12 hour days. They've got, you know, they

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live maybe an hour away. So they're at work more than what they're

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at home, they've got kids at home, they're missing birthday parties, they're

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missing sport events because they need to provide

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for their family. And I want to make sure in the

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blue collar rising slogan that, that we take care of those

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people, that they are not just taken care

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of in our company and succeed in our company,

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but also succeed outside of the company in a

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better life, better quality of life. Whether it is

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while they are still at a or after they retire.

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There's nothing for the blue collar. I know there's a few big

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companies that do good programs on

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retirement and employee ownership and it's great.

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And we wanted, we wanted to do something different. We wanted to show our

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loyalty to the guys that show loyalty to us

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in making sure they're taken care of, Whether they drive down the road

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and have a tragic accident and now they don't

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have anything to provide for their family. We've set structures

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in place to take care of that, to make sure that family is taken care

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of, to make sure that guy that whether he has any problem, that he has

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the tools to come to any one of us in a leadership role

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to ask for help. I mean, and that I think that's really, that's

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hugely important. And I mean, team culture,

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creating an environment where people want to be there, right? Where they're not like just

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looking and hoping, waiting for the next opportunity. Because in

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reality, I would imagine that at Ihaul your goal is to

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make sure they realize that the next opportunity is just another role within

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Ihaul and not having, not having to go someplace else. And

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so in that vein of talking about opportunities

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and specifically recruiting and training, the next generation

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is really a challenge in construction. Every construction firm,

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every engineering firm, every architectural firm that I've ever spoken to

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says that their biggest issue is recruitment and

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retention. So they're kind of go hand in hand, right to two things. One is

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I gotta find new people and I gotta keep the folks that I have.

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And so how is Ihaul connecting with

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schools and young workers to build

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a career path that they could really be excited about and

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proud of? I mean, what you said is, I will agree with that

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because not only do we have a problem with recruiting,

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but it's also retaining those guys at which I'm still

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young. Ish too. But it's a problem where people have

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adapted to if I Have a challenge in my workspace,

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I don't have to be there. I can go somewhere else. You know, as soon

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as they face a problem or a challenge, they just up and leave

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and, you know, they run from problems instead of facing them

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head on and getting it over and done with and continue to grow

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in, in a company, in the schools. What we're trying to

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do through social media and in our local schools is

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promoting and showing that, hey, blue collar is a very

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good career path. You know, there's a lot of kids that

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don't want to go to college, that don't know what to do. But when we

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talk about construction, there's several positions in a

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construction company. It don't mean you're out there in the, in the heat,

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lane, pipe or digging ditches. There's office

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positions, and there's a lot of people that don't realize

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how well these positions pay. They pay extremely

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well and how well. Office positions, field

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positions. If you stick it through and you

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build a career out of this in 10, 20 years, you

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make a lot of money. Totally. And, you know, I always think about,

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and I always tell the story of. My oldest son is 20, and he

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had a kid that graduated high school with him. And

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this kid, he just said, I'm not cut out for college, and

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he opted to go work in the trades. And now this kid is

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making almost six figures. You know, he's not even old enough to rent

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a car, but he, but he's making six figures and he

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absolutely loves it and he has no college debt. And again,

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this is not an indictment or to say that, you know, there's a path for

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everybody, right? Yes. And I think that specifically in our

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country, in the United States, we are just finally coming around

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to saying, hey, you can embrace this path.

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You can go the trades route. There is something noble in that

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as well, like building things. I think I always tell design

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professionals this. And this doesn't just extend to

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engineers and architects, but it's to everyone that plays a

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role in the built environment. You guys are responsible for something that

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we see, touch and feel every single day. I mean, it's, you

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know, it's a full stop. You know, there's nothing else to say except

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that the work that you do matters, whether you're a plumber,

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electrician, construction, management. I mean, like you

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said, everything that supports this industry or works

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inside of this industry really does matter. Yeah.

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I mean, AI or robot ain't gonna take my job.

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No. So I'm not too worried about it. The trades the trades

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is what this country was built on. It's what the world. So to find a

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position in a trade is from at a young age is.

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I think it's. If I can have any advice to

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anyone listening or someone young that don't or

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no matter how what your age is, if you don't know what to do, there's

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look into the trades, look into these construction firms. There's

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a position available for you somewhere. Yeah, you know,

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I'm glad you mentioned that because I've always thought about. I've got a few more

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gray hairs than you. I don't think you have any gray hairs yet, but they're

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coming. I was curious to know what are your thoughts and

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or views around, you know, older people. Like somebody that's hitting

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halftime, right? We say halftime is either 40 or 50 or somewhere

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around there. And with the advent of medical technologies

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and breakthroughs, people are going to start living to be older. But a

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40 year old that says, you know, I'm sick of doing whatever fill in

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the blank white collar job that I've been doing. I, I want to get out

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there and get my hands dirty. What advice would you give them about

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potentially getting into trades and what would that look like from your perspective

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based on what, you know, we embrace, we. Look at things a

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whole lot different too is we embrace no matter what age you are

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because there's, we feel like if you have a mixture of

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older with the younger generation,

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it forms a really good culture because you have the young guys

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that are just go, go, go, go, go nonstop. And then you have the

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older generation that's hey, let's be responsible here. But

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in a sense the younger generation is pushing the old generation into go,

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go, go. And the old, older generation is teaching the

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younger generation responsibility. You can't just go, go,

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go, go. But at a certain pace to doing things right and slow

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down, think about it and the responsibility in life. I

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would say just give it a shot. Yeah, I would hire you.

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Yeah, there you go. There, you've heard it right from Steven. So

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I mean, and that's what I've been telling people. I'm like sometimes, you know, a

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change of scenery is good and you'd be surprised what you might

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be able to do. I actually have a friend, true story. He, he is

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88. 0 and he had, he just recently sold his

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H Vac company. But he still gets out there. He's like, man,

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I just, I just love what I do. He gets out there three days a

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week and is still out there Doing jobs, sometimes he gets on a ladder,

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but for the most part he's at that point now where he's just really overseeing

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a lot of things and just making sure things get done because he's

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forgotten more than most young people know. But you bring up

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a good point now. I want to drive this home for our audience is that,

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you know, when you see design firms and when you see construction firms

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hiring all these young people, it's important for them to have

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older folks there to balance it out and also to help

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those folks along. And because one of the things that I've been doing a lot

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of studying about this lately is that especially for young men, so say you've got

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a bunch of young men that are 20 something, maybe 20, 21,

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22, 23 on a construction site. You have to remember that even though

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those are adult men, the executive function part of their

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brain is still being formed. And that's important. And that's

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why it's so good to balance that out with some senior leadership

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that can kind of help these folks along. And so that's my little bit of

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encouragement to somebody listening to this that might be in their 40s or even early

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50s. If you're healthy and you can get around and you've kind of been

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around the block a few times, this is a career,

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this is an industry that could use you because you

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could bring some real value to the table and keep some of these

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young bucks not just in line, but also give, encourage them.

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Right. Because we, being the older folks, have to help this

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next generation to be the best version of themselves. They can't do it in a

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vacuum. They can't do it by themselves. So they need that

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input and they need that feedback. And so. And Steven needs help.

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So yeah,

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yeah, you need to be helping them out. So listen, I want to. Before we

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land this plane, there's a couple more questions I want to ask. And I really

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appreciate you, you know, taking the time to really kind of bear all

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as it pertains to Ihaul. But. But the level of growth

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that you guys have experienced has been nothing short of amazing. You've

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had year over year growth of 150%.

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What's been in your mind the biggest driver

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of that momentum? It's been faith, to be honest with you.

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It's been rooting your not only yourself, but

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your company and the people that leaving your company to have a strong

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roots in, in their faith. I know, and

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I'll be the first one to say it is. I won't be Sitting where I'm

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sitting today, if it, if it weren't for God, the doors that he has

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opened, the blessings that's come our way has been

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incredible. And with that you'll

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get the people on your path that the times, the connections

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to further your career or further your company or

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have an input of a, or a positive impact in your company

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to propel you to the next level. I always go back, especially

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with the younger generation is if I can give you

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a word of advice is surround yourself with

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positive, motivated and driven people.

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Because you know, there's old saying that I always go back on is

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I can tell you what your future is going to be by looking who you

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surround yourself. And that's what, what I think has driven

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us so much, especially in our growth, is with the people who we

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surround ourselves with setting clear goals,

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visions, and having those people in this company to

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drive those goals and those targets has been

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the force behind our growth year after year. And we

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insult that. Yeah, absolutely. I love that you guys

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are deeply engaged. I hall is in the community and community

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is important to you. Clearly. I can hear it. I heard it when we first

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spoke. You guys sponsor local sports teams, you support

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career, education. Why is that important to you

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personally and to the company? Well, from

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a personal perspective, it's important because

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I have kids. Right. So I want my kids to be

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able to see different businesses, see how

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businesses are involved in day to day community

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activity because it's those businesses that are built

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with people with good hearts. From a business perspective,

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it's showing up and giving us the tools

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to reach, to reach a wider stance of

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people. When we have our logo on a sports teams. Sure.

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But it's also making sure that that team is taken care of. Whatever

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we needed to sponsor, whatever they needed for the tournament or for the year

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of the sport that's coming up. So that's always nice

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for us to see or when we see the pictures of this team taking

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a group picture after season and winning a trophy or whatnot,

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or just participating is. It's a proud moment for us

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to see. Hey, we're part of that company. That team has

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represented that team. Yeah, I love that. And you

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know, I mean, I think it's just your company also. The people that

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work there also see that. Right. There's that pride. It's like, oh,

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I work at ihaw. Oh yeah, I saw that, that team. I just, you know,

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I saw that baseball team over at the park. And so definitely

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I think there's some semblance of pride that Comes along with seeing

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the brand that you work for out there in the community, making a

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difference. Yeah, absolutely. All right, so this is my last question

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for you. And again, I appreciate the time that you've taken

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to spend with us today to kind of share some of your thoughts and feedback

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on the success that I hall is experiencing right here in northwest

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Arkansas. But looking ahead, what excites you the most about

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the future of your company? About the future of

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Ihaul, not just here in northwest Arkansas, but also

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beyond this area. Because I would imagine as you do

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continue to do amazing work, word about you will

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spread and people will be reaching out. And soon. I'm

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sure, if you're not already getting calls from Springfield, maybe calls

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from Tulsa, maybe calls from Kansas City and some of the

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other areas around us, what is your hope

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for the future of this company? The hope is that we continue to

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grow, but also grow on a steady pace where we

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grow the right way and be able to control that.

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You're right. I mean, Missouri, Tulsa, you

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know, River Valley, Kansas. It's becoming

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more of a reality that we're starting to look for

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those opportunities outside of northwest Arkansas.

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Arkansas will always be our home base, but we also have to spread our

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whims and see what opportunities out there. Texas

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is actually becoming a very big. It's actually top of the list right now

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to where we want to expand to. And it's not just because of the type

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of work that's in Texas, but it's also. There's a little bit more thought behind

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it with winter months over here. Just give you a quick

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hint. Cold winters, wet winters in Arkansas might be better

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in Texas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Although the weather

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still is. If you compare it to, like, going north just three or four hours,

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it's a lot milder. And honestly, I don't know if the ground

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does freeze right in terms of. Yeah. So that's the other benefit

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that you have, is that when you get below a certain line and arc and

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Fayetteville is in northwest Arkansas is actually below, just a little bit below that

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line, you do have some benefits that you don't have in northern

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parts of the U.S. yes, exactly. So it's definitely something

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we're looking into and we're excited about, and we're probably going to pursue this

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winner. We may be already in the works with it. So the future of

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Ihole es bright will continue to grow. I look

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forward to meeting more people and connecting with people. You

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hear these people's stories. I mean, you build yourself, you build your

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character. Through meeting new people. And it's been an exceptional growth

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that what we've had so far, and just a beautiful journey to be a

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part of. And I want that journey to continue and make

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new friends, make new connections and continue seeing the people

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in this company and people that. New people that will join to

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succeed in life and become better outside of the work

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workplace or have a better. A better life outside of this workplace,

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but also enjoy the work. Being excited to wake up to come to

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work. Yeah, well, that's almost like that, you know, that's when you've hit the lottery,

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when you actually enjoy what you do, so that whether you're at work

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or at home, you're like, you're living your best life. Exactly.

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Like I say, the sandbox just got a whole lot better. So we're. We're having

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a lot of fun, and I love that. Exciting times.

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Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Well, you know, Stephen, this has been

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great. If anybody listening to this is like, man, I just love this

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guy's energy. I love everything that he's doing here in northwest

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Arkansas. I want to reach out to him. What's the best way for somebody to

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connect with you? They can go straight to our

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website, iholl.com the office email is on there

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that can connect through that email. It will come straight to my des

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and we'll take it from there. Okay. Yeah, that's perfect. That's

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perfect. So that's ihall I

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dot com. We'll make sure we put that in the show notes and. And we'll

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have some other residual materials out for this particular podcast

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episode that people can take advantage of. If you're listening to this and you're thinking

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about a place to work, if you're a young, youngster in high

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school, I really want to encourage you to reach out to the folks at

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ihall, because there's some tremendous opportunities here, both now

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and in the future. And this would be a great. A great

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firm to start out with and start working with. And who knows, you may get

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there and never want to leave. Right, That's. I'm sure Stephen's hoping for that.

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So that. That's the goal. Or. Or if somebody, you know, we've. I've got a

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lot of friends, too, that, you know, if you just have a business question or

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you just want. I'd go for coffee, you know, you know, I'll

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set a timeout. And I love connecting with people,

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especially the next generation as well, answering any question they have,

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whether I. I'm able to help or not. I'll try my best. Well, folks,

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you heard it here. Stephen is willing to get with you for coffee

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and to connect and chat and listen. I'm telling you,

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we all need a sagely individual in our lives that can speak

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a word of encouragement, that can speak some guidance. And you know, there's

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a. One of my favorite books says that there is always safety

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in numbers and if you seek out good counsel, you will find

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success. And so I really want to encourage you to keep that in mind

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as you go about your business today. So. But Stephen, I want to thank you

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so much for joining me, Stephen Vandermeer,

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for the founder of ihall and somebody that's just out here in

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Northwest Arkansas doing some pretty amazing things. And

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just to think about where you've come from 11 years ago to this

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day, at the time of recording this, you know, at the middle of 2025,

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you've really made tremendous inroads. And, and I mean, you know, honestly,

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you are living the American dream. And so, man, I, I certainly

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applaud you. I encourage you to keep going, keep doing

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what you're doing and making a difference because you're going to be

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able to really impact a lot of lives for through the success of

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iHaul. So thank you so much for joining us today on this

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podcast episode. Randy, thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

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Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, folks, I hope you enjoyed this conversation with

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Stephen Vandermeer of ihall. Their story is

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proof that with hard work, integrity and

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innovation, you can move more than just dirt.

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You can move an entire industry forward. To learn more

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about Ihaul's excavation and civil construction services,

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or to explore career opportunities, visit

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ihall.com that's I H A W

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and businesses shaping life right here in the

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Ozarks. Until next time, keep building for the

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future. Peace.

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