37: The Truth About Food From a Holistic Nutritionist

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Hey, I'm your host, Mari Wagner,

and you're listening to the ever be

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Welcome to Ever Be.

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

Hey, Anika, welcome to ever be.

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I'm so excited to have you here.

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

Hi friend.

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Thank you so much for having me on.

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I cannot wait.

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

You guys, today's guest is very

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exciting because she is amazing and

she's also a dear friend of mine.

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And we were just talking about this before

we hit record, just how much fun I have

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recording with friends, um, because the

conversation seems to flow just so much

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more naturally and it's just so much

more of like an easygoing conversation.

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And it's fun.

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It's just like fun to chat with

your friends about something

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you're super passionate about.

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

It's so true.

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And it's funny too, cause we pretty

much had this exact conversation

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in Bible study a few weeks ago.

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now we're just recording it.

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yes.

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Yes.

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I feel like it's a conversation that just

comes up all the time when we hang out.

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So I was like, okay, we just need

to click record while we have the

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conversation so everybody can listen in.

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And I'm sure everybody's

wondering like, okay, what is this

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conversation you're talking about?

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So Anika, why don't you just give a

little introduction of who you are, what

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you do so we can kick off this combo?

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

Yeah, let's do it.

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So hi everyone.

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My name is Annika.

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Mari and I met what it's been

a couple of months now through

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the craziest, um, phone call.

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We were on a

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yes.

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

We both do crunchy and, everyone

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was saying where they lived and Mari

was like, Oh, I live in Colorado.

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And we ended up living in the

same town, like 30 minutes away.

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So crazy, such a God thing,

how that all worked out.

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But am a holistic nutritionist.

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My.

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title is Functional Nutritional Therapy

Practitioner, and I have been seeing

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clients doing the Instagram thing

for five years now, which is crazy.

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So I've had the amazing blessing

and opportunity to be able to work

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with of women as clients and then

reach thousands of women through

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social media and the work that I do.

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So I've gotten to experience a lot of,

um, Unfortunately, kind of the imbalances

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that we, a lot of us women struggle

with, but, um, been able to help women

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through that from a totally Christ

based, uh, God based approach when it

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comes to food and health and nutrition.

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So I love what I do.

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I'm so passionate about it and

I'm so excited to talk about it.

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yeah.

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Can you quickly just share like

a little bit of your story?

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Like, how did you even get into this?

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

Oh my gosh, podcast.

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So man, let's see where to start.

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So I really struggled with like body

dysmorphia and an eating disorder.

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Um, pretty young, I'd say probably

started around like high school is

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when it got pretty bad during this

time too, from the time of my first

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period, I had debilitating cramps and

with every cycle and every period, it

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got worse and worse and more painful.

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so I kind of have this

two things going on here.

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I have this eating disorder.

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I'm doing all this dieting and restricting

and trying all these fad diets.

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I mean, if there's a diet

out there, I have done it.

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Um, so I was really

harming my body with diets.

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Meanwhile, dealing with this

really aggressive endometriosis

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that I had no idea was happening.

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I just thought I had painful

periods and that was just my life.

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Um, so through having the endometriosis

and then all the dieting I did, I

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mean, I was doing crazy, crazy dieting.

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A lot of it is, you Holistic dieting

too, which will, we can get into more.

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Um, but I mean, I was just destroying

my body with things like keto and

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eating way too many cruciferous

vegetables, low carb diets for so long.

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And what I didn't realize is that was kind

of creating this war in my body between

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the risk restriction and deprivation.

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I was.

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Doing through limiting so many foods

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yeah.

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

all the, the bad, I thought they were

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good at the time, but the foods that

I was eating in such high quantities

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that were really anti metabolism.

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And so I was just creating this war

internally of these foods versus my endo.

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And I just ended up getting so, so sick.

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I ended up gaining a lot of weight.

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I dealt with really bad hair loss, acne.

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Acne was like my.

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The worst thing that I dealt with

by far, um, menstrual cycle issues.

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Like I said, the terrible endometriosis

just pretty much you name it.

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I've had the issue.

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So I just got extremely sick and,

um, it actually had this kind of rock

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bottom moment where my brother who's

younger than me was like, You are such

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extreme stuff and you're being so crazy.

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Like, what if you did the

opposite of all of this?

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What if that's what you

needed to do to heal?

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And at that time I was

not ready to hear that.

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And I was like, that's ridiculous.

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I just need to do what I'm

doing and do it harder.

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And so it took me a couple of years.

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And then finally I found the

nutrition philosophy that I teach now.

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And it is the opposite, the complete

opposite of everything I was doing.

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And that is exactly what I

needed to do in order to heal.

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Wow.

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Well, I'm so excited to get into it.

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What's a bummer.

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And I've had this conversation

with several people.

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It's like, I feel like the people who

are like experts in this field and doing

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this in like a professional way, like you

sadly got there because of some sort of

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chronic illness that they experienced or

some sort of hormonal imbalance or thyroid

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problem or whatever that they experienced

that they couldn't find help with.

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That then they had to become

an expert in it and, like, do

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all the research themselves.

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So,

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

so true.

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: crazy

that that's kind of, like, the place

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where we're at and that so many people

struggle with these different things.

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But, um, let's just dive in.

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First of all, let's start, like,

easy, you know, baby steps.

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Can you just break downthis is a question

I have like, what is the difference

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between a holistic nutritionist and

just A regular nutrition, nutritionist.

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And like you mentioned that you

have a specific approach, um,

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that you take nutrition, just,

can you just break all that down?

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

Yes, definitely.

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So it's kind of hard because there's

people in both camps all across the board.

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So.

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Traditionally, or it should be that

holistic nutritionist look at the

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body as a whole and treat and help

support all of your body's functions.

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And we should know as holistic

nutritionists that the body

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doesn't function as separate parts.

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It functions as a whole

and it works together.

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However, a lot of holistic nutrition

and even like a lot of functional

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medicine doctors and naturopaths and

stuff, they still are really approaching

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the body with this super medicalized.

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Approach.

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So you'll go there and you'll say,

Hey, I'm like, I'm not feeling well.

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And they'll go, okay, great.

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Here's this list of 10 supplements.

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It's going to cost you 500 a month.

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We'll see you next month.

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and that is not, that is

not my approach at all.

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So there's, there is still a lot

of that in the holistic space,

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which is why I actually got so sick

from being in the holistic space.

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So there's a lot to unpack there,

but then when you're talking more

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conventional, um, if you went to.

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A university and got a degree as

a dietitian or a nutritionist,

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yeah.

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

kind of thing that so those programs

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are kind of funded by big food.

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So those are the people that you're

going to see on the internet telling

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you that there is absolutely nothing

wrong with eating Captain Crunch

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for breakfast, even though it has

dyes and seed oils, because it has.

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Vitamins in it, even though those are

synthetic fortified vitamins, that's a

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whole other conversation we could have.

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So their whole programs are

legitimately funded by big food.

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So they're the people telling you to

like drink Gatorade and eat the cereal

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for breakfast and eat the fortified

grains and all of that kind of stuff,

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which could not be more opposite.

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Now, again, There's so much nuance.

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There's so many dietitians that

have woken up to all of this, have

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done amazing work in the holistic

space and do not follow that at all.

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So it's just kind of all across the board

and I have spent time in all of the camps.

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So, like I mentioned

earlier, I was doing all the.

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All the, I was doing paleo keto

plant based, all the things that

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were really trendy and the holistic

alternative wellness space.

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And I was just getting

sicker and sicker and sicker.

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And so it finally took me finding

has kind of been called like the

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pro metabolic nutrition space.

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And that is where I landed.

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And that is what talking about earlier

of having, when I, when I mean, I did the

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opposite of everything I was doing before.

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That is what.

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But to me, if you just really break it

down and look at what it does and what

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we're eating and the foods we suggest,

it's truly just getting back to the

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way God designed us to eat and live.

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So when I say pro metabolic, for

those who aren't familiar with it,

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the biggest thing is it is a food

first supplement last approach.

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So I am such an advocate for

food first supplements are

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truly the just be supplements.

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I think we've kind of gotten to

this place where we rely on them.

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Like we rely on prenatals,

we rely on multivitamins.

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I never recommend that.

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I will never be the practitioner

sending my clients out the door with

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500 a month worth of supplements ever.

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major food first focus.

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Um, and it's always a first focus

on your metabolism and thyroid.

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Everything else stems from your

metabolism and thyroid functions.

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And so things like hormone

imbalance, weight gain, acne.

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things are never the root issue and

should never be treated directly.

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So I remember when I walked into my

functional medicine doctor's office

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to talk about my endometriosis and

my estrogen dominant symptoms, she's

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like, that's the root cause of your

problems, your hormone imbalance.

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And that is never the root cause the it's,

we need to take it a step further and go,

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well, why are your hormones imbalanced?

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Like

the heart is a symptom of the root cause.

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102: a

symptom of the root cause, yes, but in

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so much even medicine, they'll tell you

that's the root and they'll treat that

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with supplements and all these things

and like diet restrictions and stuff.

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And that is never the answer.

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The answer is always to focus on the

thyroid and focus on the metabolism.

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And once you heal those two things,

everything else will just fall into place.

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Like I didn't have to try.

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To heal my acne.

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I didn't have to try to lose weight.

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I lost weight and my skin improved when

I healed my body, if that makes sense.

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yeah.

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

that's the approach I take.

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And, and honestly, in my practice,

we treat everyone the same

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because everyone has the same

cells and needs the same thing.

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So this kind of idea of.

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Some nutritionists will be like,

Oh, some people just do really

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well on a keto diet and some people

do really well on a vegan diet.

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I could not disagree more.

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We are a species.

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We are humans.

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You have never heard a wildlife

biologist being like this lion is

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a vegan and it just works for him.

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Like.

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That's not, that's not how it works.

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And it's the same for humans.

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So while bio individuality absolutely

exists and there's going to be different

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things that we need to support our

bodies due to our different imbalances,

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what we need on a foundational

nutrition level for humans is going to

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be the same across the board because

ourselves need the same things.

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Yes,

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: sense

to me and I think one thing that I

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have been loving learning about this

like pro metabolic eating space is

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that So much of it just makes sense

like it just kind of like sits in my

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soul in a very peaceful way and it's

just like Yeah, this just makes sense.

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Like, that's just feels

like how it should be.

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Whereas like when I've heard other

eating, you know, approaches and, and

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diets and stuff like that, I've kind

of just been like, really though, like

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that doesn't seem like easy at all.

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That seems like so unnatural.

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And so I'm excited to

continue talking about this.

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Tell us like what specifically makes

it the pro metabolic eating approach.

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Um, why does this kind of like

nutrients dense diet, you know,

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like, like what is it made out of?

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Like, how do you eat that way?

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

totally.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Such a great question.

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So we kind of have, uh, my business

partner and I have kind of.

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these things that we call like the

foundations of pro metabolic eating,

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which is pretty general across the

board so My pillars of things that I

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am so passionate about when it comes to

food is number one First and foremost

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food quality and organic matters.

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So I do not think We are putting

a big enough emphasis on the

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quality of the food we are eating.

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I mean, all of it is so important,

but specifically when it comes to

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animal products, and this is an

animal product, heavy diet, it's not

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carnivore by any means, um, but it

is an animal product, heavy diet.

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And when we are eating these

real whole foods, they have

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to be really high quality.

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There is absolutely, it's not the

same to be eating conventionally

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grown GMO grapes with.

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Sprayed with pesticides and

glyphosate and all these chemicals

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versus organically grown grapes.

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And there's a statistic that says you

can literally reduce the amount of toxins

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in your body by just eating organic for

one week by, I think it's 60 to 70%.

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So this makes a huge, huge difference.

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Yes, I, and we can, we can honestly get

into, you know, people are kind of can

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be turned off by the costs and whatnot.

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At first you can eat this way.

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For pretty much the same cost

if you are intentional about it.

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And I'm so passionate about that, but, um,

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: One

thing my dad said growing up is my

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dad, my parents are like kind of I call

them like a, like a little bit of like

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a health nut in a way, you know, just

like they just cared about these things.

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I feel like before it became trendy,

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

which I think we should point out.

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This is so interesting because

they came from a different country

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: true.

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

many countries.

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We are the only country that

has no culture and doesn't

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recognize how important that is.

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Your parents just innately knew

that because food, they were

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so much closer to their food

process and they understood that.

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So I think that's

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: So true.

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

That's so true.

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Yeah.

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My family's from a Columbia

in case you didn't know that.

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Um, but he always said like.

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Sure.

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Organic might be a little more expensive,

but in the end, like you're either

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paying for high quality food or you're

paying for medical bills down the road.

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And he's like, which one

do you want to pay for?

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And I'm like, okay, got it.

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And like, right off the bat, like, since

I left my house, you know, when I was

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18, went to college, like people would

always like ask, like, Oh my gosh, you

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buy all organic, like all of college.

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I've always bought all organic

just because that's always been.

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It's like, why would you not

buy the best quality food?

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It's so different than just buying like,

you know, Like marshals, like sweater

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versus like a hundred percent cashmere.

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Like, it's not like, Oh, I'm just

choosing to buy better quality

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clothes or better quality furniture.

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It's like, this is actually going

in my body, fueling my body.

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My body is what upholds

me for my entire life.

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Like it fuels your health.

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So to me, it's always made so much sense.

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Like, why would you not buy the

best quality food for your body?

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So I love hearing that.

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Yeah.

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

this is where it gets very biblical

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for me because it is a command

in the Bible to treat your body

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as a temple of the Holy spirit.

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And we only apply that to

sexual immorality, which of

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course that's huge, extremely

important, but this is our temple.

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This is our physical temple.

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So if we're disrespecting that

and putting bad food into it,

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That doesn't make sense to me.

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This is what God has commanded

us to do is to take, take care of

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ourselves and take care of our bodies.

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So I think it's

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yeah.

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

biblical, but yes, I

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love that perspective.

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.

So the next one, which is kind of on the same theme of what we just talked about

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is prioritizing again, I emphasize high

quality animal protein because animal

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protein, whether that's from eggs, bone

broth, meat, fish, meat, Dairy, whatever

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it is, it also has to be high quality.

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Um, I cannot emphasize that enough again,

just with what we were talking about

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before, if you're eating low quality

meat that has been fed an improper

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diet and lived an improper lifestyle,

it fundamentally changes the quality

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of that meat or that animal product.

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So, you know, It was probably like 2017,

: 2018

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raging, everyone was like, dairy is so

it causes acne and it's hormonal and you

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know, it's estrogenic and all this stuff.

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So I just quit dairy for no reason.

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I was like, oh, okay, it's bad for me.

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I'm just going to stop eating it without

understanding the nuance of quality

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when it comes to animal products.

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So yes.

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Animal dairy from the store.

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I am not kidding you.

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I would drink coconut milk before I

would drink low quality dairy from

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like a conventional grocery store.

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It is filled with hormones.

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I'm a huge advocate, um, for the

welfare and treatment of animals.

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It comes from abused animals that live

in extremely unhealthy environments,

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which makes their products unhealthy.

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So.

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So consuming that versus raw milk or even

high quality, low temperature pasteurized

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milk from a dairy that sources from cows

that are grass fed and pasture raised.

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It's a completely different product.

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So again, all of those are so important.

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I'm a huge advocate for dairy,

meat, all the things, as

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long as they're high quality.

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So number two.

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Women

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

have a question

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

yeah,

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

Dairy question.

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Um, so I have been trying to figure out

like which dairy is best for me to buy.

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And I, the options I, I have like

kind of been going back and forth

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on is either a hundred percent grass

fed organic milk from the store

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

mm hmm.

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Mm hmm.

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: There's

like a local dairy that delivers, but

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I'm pretty sure it's not grass fed.

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I've looked into it and I called them

and I don't, I don't think it's grass

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fed, but it's like a local dairy farm.

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And so I'm like, is it better

because it's local, you know?

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And like the, the food, uh, you know,

like the, the, what's it called?

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The chain to get from like

the farm to my table is like.

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

is shorter.

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

supply chain is shorter.

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Um, or is like this like 100 percent grass

fed organic milk from the store better?

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

I would, that would be my opinion.

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I would choose that.

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So, I think I know the dairy that

you're talking about since we're in

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the same area and a lot of my friends

get it and It's probably better.

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I think it creates the illusion

of better because it's delivered

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to your door and it's like fresh

milk delivered to your door.

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But what does that mean?

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Like you just pointed out it's,

if it's grain fed, if they're kept

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in a confinement, absolutely not.

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I am going to the store.

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And if someone wants any brand

recommendations, Kelowna Supernatural

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is one I think that you can get in

all, all the States now that I love.

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They are the most wonderful people.

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Um, they have.

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Low temperature pasteurized

non homogenized mean that

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it's not blended together.

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So there's actually a separation of cream

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yes.

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

um, the

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mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: We've got

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squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

and love it, love it.

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Their cows are grass fed.

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They are wonderful people.

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I actually think they're Amish.

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: 00:19:36

Um, anyway, wonderful.

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There's great things that

you can find in the store.

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When I first said store bought milk,

I meant like the Kroger brand, 2

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percent that's basically water.

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And if you were to see, and

this is where, I mean, we're so

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separated from our food that this

is what is allowing this to happen.

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But if you were to see the

environment that dairy cows.

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And animals, livestock are

experience in their life.

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I mean, I think most people

wouldn't be able to drink it, but

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because we don't see it, it's just

like out of sight, out of mind.

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: 00:20:09

Right.

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And so then we're drinking these

low quality products without,

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: 00:20:12

without even paying attention to it.

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: 00:20:14

I mean, this was, I did this for years.

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I'm not throwing, throwing

stones or pointing fingers.

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This was my life.

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: 00:20:19

I grew up on 2 percent milk

from Safeway, you know, so, um,

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: 00:20:23

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Same.

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: 00:20:24

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

that is so important and women are

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chronically under eating protein.

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I will just scream this from the rooftops.

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: 00:20:34

Women are chronically

under eating protein.

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We are, I would say the average

woman who's not paying attention is

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probably eating 40 to 50 grams a day.

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: 00:20:43

That is less than half of what we need.

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: 00:20:45

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yeah.

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: 00:20:45

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

I actually recommend one gram of

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protein per pound of body weight.

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: 00:20:51

Um, So if you put that into perspective,

most of us are a hundred pounds.

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I at least, at least, and I doubt

any of most women, unless you're

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being intentional or eating a

hundred grams of protein, so.

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: 00:21:04

So increasing protein with high quality

animal pro, uh, protein products, huge.

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: 00:21:09

That's another one of the

foundations that we have.

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: 00:21:13

Uh, the next one is stop drinking mineral

depleted water and especially tap water.

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: 00:21:20

This is another one that the wellness

industry made so popular with those cute

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: 00:21:26

gallon jugs of the encouragements of how

much you should drink and keep going.

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: 00:21:31

You got this.

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: 00:21:32

And.

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: 00:21:33

When I see that, oh man, there

are so many problems with that.

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: 00:21:37

So first of all, most of us are

filling those with tap water.

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Tap water is the most toxic.

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: 00:21:46

Thing that we are putting in and on our

bodies every day at large quantities.

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: 00:21:50

Tap water is filled with a

list of chemicals so long.

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: 00:21:55

We would be here all day if we

went through all of them, but heavy

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: 00:21:57

metals, pesticides, pharmaceuticals,

they found actual hormones in

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: 00:22:02

tap water, mostly estrogen.

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: 00:22:04

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Gosh.

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: 00:22:05

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

right?

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: 00:22:06

And we wonder why estrogen dominance

is an epidemic at this point.

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: 00:22:10

Um, and all sorts of, I mean, one

that I found out about more recently

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: 00:22:15

is a chemical called atrazine and

atrazine is it's used in conventional

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: 00:22:20

agriculture, it's an herbicide or a

pesticide, and it's so estrogenic.

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: 00:22:24

They did an experiment.

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: 00:22:25

They put frogs in a tank of water and

they expose them to atrazine at a level

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: 00:22:30

deemed safe and acceptable from the EPA.

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: 00:22:33

Okay.

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: 00:22:34

And all of the frogs were males.

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: 00:22:36

Some of them turned, they

all turned female and some of

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: 00:22:38

them produced fertile eggs.

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: 00:22:39

So it is that estrogenic.

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: 00:22:41

And we are drinking this every

day, especially people like Mari

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: 00:22:44

and I, we live in very, we live

in a very agricultural area.

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: 00:22:48

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yeah,

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: 00:22:49

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

there's a lot of farming and

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: 00:22:50

a lot of ranching around us.

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: 00:22:52

And so it's in our water, I would bet

at a higher level than it is if you.

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: 00:22:57

If you weren't living in an area like

us, but it's still rampant in tap water.

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: 00:23:00

So that's when I learned about recently

that I was just like, Oh, this is bad.

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: 00:23:04

So the tap water has to go.

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: 00:23:09

It is one of the biggest things to me.

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: 00:23:11

then just drinking plain water.

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: 00:23:13

So when you are drinking

plain water, you are fighting.

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: 00:23:15

Flushing minerals out of your body, which

is why I have such a problem with the

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: 00:23:19

gallon drinking challenge thing, because

when we do that, we're drinking clear pee.

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: 00:23:23

And I, for years thought clear pee,

or we're not drinking clear pee.

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: 00:23:26

We're peeing clear

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: 00:23:27

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

we are not drinking tea.

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: 00:23:29

Let's

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: 00:23:29

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

drinking pee.

483

: 00:23:30

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: that.

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: 00:23:30

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

guys.

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: 00:23:31

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

That's not what we're advocating.

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: 00:23:33

Yes.

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: 00:23:39

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102: Um,

but you're peeing clear pee and forever.

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: 00:23:41

I thought that was like the

gold standard of health.

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: 00:23:43

I was like, my pee is clear.

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: 00:23:45

I'm doing so good.

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: 00:23:46

I've killed it for today.

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: 00:23:48

No, that's actually means

you've successfully flushed

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: 00:23:50

your system of minerals.

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: 00:23:52

So chugging this mineral

depleted tap water.

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: 00:23:56

Huge detriment to our health.

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: 00:23:58

I recommend adding a little pinch of

salt to your water or drinking water

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: 00:24:03

with lemon or drinking herbal teas,

drinking milk, drinking juices with meals,

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: 00:24:08

that kind of thing, so, so important

so that you're actually replenishing

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: 00:24:12

your minerals instead of just cleansing

your body of minerals every single day.

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: 00:24:17

And that brings us to another one.

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: 00:24:19

I know we're going to

dive into this later.

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: 00:24:20

So minerals matter.

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: 00:24:21

Minerals matter so much.

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: 00:24:22

We'll, we'll circle back to this.

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: 00:24:24

Cause I know you had

some questions on that.

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: 00:24:26

limiting industrial seed oils,

another one that is just huge.

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: 00:24:32

I'm so passionate about, and I know

you had a question on this later,

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: 00:24:34

so we can circle back to that one.

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: 00:24:37

then health.

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: 00:24:38

If your gut is not functioning properly.

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: 00:24:42

Your entire body system will be off.

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: 00:24:44

So again, that's why acne

is not a root problem.

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: 00:24:48

It's not like, Oh, I have terrible acne.

514

: 00:24:50

I need to go put all this benzoyl

peroxide and proactive and all

515

: 00:24:54

these harsh treatments on it.

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: 00:24:55

It's what's causing the acne.

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: 00:24:56

So.

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: 00:24:57

Many times it's gut health, it's

thyroid health, that kind of thing.

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: 00:25:01

But our gut health determines

the health of our entire body.

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: 00:25:05

So focusing on gut health is huge and

eating foods that nourish and support

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: 00:25:09

the gut that are easy to digest.

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: 00:25:11

Instead of, like I said, what I was

doing, it was eating six servings of

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: 00:25:14

cruciferous vegetables a day because

I thought that that's what I had

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: 00:25:17

to do to eliminate estrogen because

that's what my naturopath told me.

525

: 00:25:21

Meanwhile, that was,

it's super anti thyroid.

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: 00:25:24

So the.

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: 00:25:25

nutrients in those vegetables

directly attack your thyroid.

528

: 00:25:28

And then they were sitting in my gut

fermenting, creating chronic constipation,

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: 00:25:32

gas, bloating, all of that stuff.

530

: 00:25:34

So eating proper gut nourishing foods,

the things we've talked about, mineral

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: 00:25:38

rich foods, um, animal products, all of

those things are so much easier to digest.

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: 00:25:44

And then last foundation I

have is blood sugar regulation.

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: 00:25:47

And I know of times people are

like, Blood sugar regulation.

534

: 00:25:51

Isn't that like for

diabetics or something?

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: 00:25:53

No, this is something so important

that we're completely ignoring.

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: 00:25:58

I see women all the time eating

naked carbs, which are carbs

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: 00:26:03

without a protein or fat.

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: 00:26:04

So drinking a whole juice by itself

or eating an apple or piece of fruit,

539

: 00:26:09

even by itself, that is a naked carb.

540

: 00:26:12

And that will cause a spike in

a crash in your blood sugar.

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: 00:26:15

So blood sugar balance means you

eat protein, carb, and fat at every

542

: 00:26:19

meal and snack and eating that.

543

: 00:26:21

Little package getting all

those macronutrients in will

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: 00:26:24

ensure balanced blood sugar.

545

: 00:26:25

So you're not having that like

shakiness, hangriness, headaches between

546

: 00:26:29

meals, all of those negative symptoms

of, I mean, truly we call it being

547

: 00:26:34

hangry and it's just, that is blood

sugar dysregulation is being hangry.

548

: 00:26:39

So I know that was like a lot, but those

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: 00:26:42

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Thanks.

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: 00:26:43

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

those are the main things that

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: 00:26:44

I'm very passionate about.

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: 00:26:46

And I believe that if you follow those

and again, we'll get more into some of

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: 00:26:49

these, you will see your health improve.

554

: 00:26:52

So much.

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: 00:26:53

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

That is so good.

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: 00:26:54

Give us a few examples.

557

: 00:26:55

Like when you say, like, cause I think

this is relatable, like snacking when

558

: 00:26:58

people are hungry in the middle of the

day, it's so easy to just grab, you know,

559

: 00:27:01

a fruit or a piece of tote or whatever.

560

: 00:27:03

Like, what are some, just a

quick few examples of snacks

561

: 00:27:06

that have protein, fat and carb?

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: 00:27:08

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

Yeah.

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: 00:27:09

I love that question.

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: 00:27:10

And I, I mean, we've,

we've done this forever.

565

: 00:27:12

Right.

566

: 00:27:12

So I don't want anyone to feel bad for

thinking like you're eating an apple.

567

: 00:27:15

You're like, oh, that's, that's awesome.

568

: 00:27:17

I'm being so healthy.

569

: 00:27:18

So instead of eating just an apple,

for example, I would eat an apple

570

: 00:27:21

and a cheese stick or an apple and a

cheese stick and a beef stick, um, Um,

571

: 00:27:26

instead of just toast, like you said,

I would have toast with cottage cheese

572

: 00:27:31

on the side or on top or a yogurt with

a piece of toast, that kind of thing.

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: 00:27:37

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Awesome.

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: 00:27:38

Yeah, those are great.

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: 00:27:39

Um, okay.

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: 00:27:41

Let's talk about any misconceptions

you've seen in the wellness

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: 00:27:45

world when it comes to nutrition.

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: 00:27:47

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

oh man, where, where do we begin?

579

: 00:27:51

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

What gates?

580

: 00:27:52

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

Open the floodgates.

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: 00:27:53

Brace yourselves, everyone.

582

: 00:27:56

So if I'm being honest, I would

say almost everything out there.

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: 00:27:59

I mean, there is not, there's not a single

diet that I would agree with any means.

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: 00:28:08

I mean, so keto and low carb

diets, these are destroying

585

: 00:28:13

our thyroid and our metabolism.

586

: 00:28:15

And I think so many women have kind of

been like targeted by this marketing.

587

: 00:28:18

And I, when I started dieting in high

school, the first thing I did was limit

588

: 00:28:24

and eliminate carbs because I thought

carbs were what made us fat and that

589

: 00:28:29

it could not be further from the truth.

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: 00:28:31

And so, um, That one kills me.

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: 00:28:34

I did the keto diet forever.

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: 00:28:36

It absolutely destroyed my

metabolism and my thyroid.

593

: 00:28:39

And I truly believe I'm

still recovering from that.

594

: 00:28:41

So.

595

: 00:28:42

Those, that one drives me nuts.

596

: 00:28:44

Intermittent fasting is something we

could do an entire podcast episode on.

597

: 00:28:50

I could just go off about

intermittent fasting.

598

: 00:28:52

Um, and every time I do on social

media, people do not like to hear that.

599

: 00:28:56

And they're like, well, you probably

haven't read the book fast, like a girl.

600

: 00:28:59

I have, I have, and I fully disagree

with everything in that book.

601

: 00:29:03

Intermittent fasting destroys our

metabolisms, our thyroid, our reproductive

602

: 00:29:07

hormones, our hunger hormones and signals.

603

: 00:29:10

I mean, it truly is so, so

harmful to our bodies and takes

604

: 00:29:14

a very long time to recover from.

605

: 00:29:17

Um, I mean, truly anything low

fat, low carb, any time we.

606

: 00:29:22

Remove a macronutrient food group

or restrict ourselves from food.

607

: 00:29:25

And this is what drives me so nuts about

diet culture is women have always been

608

: 00:29:29

told in order to like be beautiful and

have this body that we want, we have to.

609

: 00:29:34

We have to be less and do less.

610

: 00:29:36

So less carbs, less sugar, less

dairy, less gluten, less calories.

611

: 00:29:40

It's always like, what are we taking away?

612

: 00:29:43

And I cannot stand that women's

bodies thrive in abundance.

613

: 00:29:46

And that is what's so important

is like, what foods can we add?

614

: 00:29:50

What foods can we include to support our

bodies and bring back vitality to our

615

: 00:29:56

systems from the bottom up, you know?

616

: 00:30:00

So

617

: 00:30:00

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

Again, that makes so much sense to me.

618

: 00:30:02

It's like, what nutrients dense

foods can we add so that we have more

619

: 00:30:06

life within us so that we have more

nutrients in our body versus like,

620

: 00:30:10

what all can we eliminate from our diet

so that we are less so that it just,

621

: 00:30:14

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

skinnier?

622

: 00:30:15

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: it just.

623

: 00:30:16

I

624

: 00:30:16

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102: no.

625

: 00:30:17

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: it's just

like closer to death, you know, how much

626

: 00:30:20

smaller and frailer and less can we eat?

627

: 00:30:23

I'm like I feel like that's just not

what god made us to be like god didn't

628

: 00:30:27

put us in the garden and said Don't

eat Everything, you know, he just said

629

: 00:30:31

like don't eat the one tree and that's

got its own moral purpose for that

630

: 00:30:35

You know, but he was like enjoy like

enjoy all that i've given you like

631

: 00:30:40

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yes.

632

: 00:30:41

And I not agree more.

633

: 00:30:43

And what I, what kills me about that

is so many of these diets like keto,

634

: 00:30:47

low carb, fat, we're literally, when

we, when we deprive ourselves of these

635

: 00:30:53

foods, we are depriving ourselves of

nutrients that are critical for our body's

636

: 00:30:58

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yes,

637

: 00:30:58

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

So when I was on keto and my low

638

: 00:31:00

carb dieting, I wouldn't touch fruit.

639

: 00:31:02

Fruit is one of the most nutrient

dense, mineral rich, Delicious,

640

: 00:31:07

wonderful, God given like desserts ever.

641

: 00:31:11

And I wouldn't touch it because

it had sugar in it, you know?

642

: 00:31:14

So it's just, it's crazy what we've done.

643

: 00:31:18

And how far we've come from

just understanding what

644

: 00:31:21

God had in store for us.

645

: 00:31:23

That's why I'm like my tree in

the garden of Eden is seed oils.

646

: 00:31:26

I'm like, don't touch those.

647

: 00:31:28

Everything else that's high quality

should be a part of our diet, which

648

: 00:31:32

is why I'm not anti sugar, anti

dessert or anything like that either.

649

: 00:31:36

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: yeah,

I think one thing too like as i'm

650

: 00:31:39

reflecting on this is A lot of the

reason why people feel like, and my

651

: 00:31:43

women especially feel like they have to

go towards these trends or avoid foods

652

: 00:31:48

is probably, especially in America,

just because the way our food is made.

653

: 00:31:52

And so like, yeah, if what is available

to us is foods that are like covered in

654

: 00:31:57

seed oils and dyes and processed foods and

refined sugar and like all this kind of

655

: 00:32:02

stuff, like if that's, what's available

to us, then I see why people are so

656

: 00:32:07

big on avoiding, you know what I mean?

657

: 00:32:09

Just about relearning what real

nutrition is and what like whole foods

658

: 00:32:15

actually can do for us, you know, like

I shop at Trader Joe's organic and

659

: 00:32:21

mostly because it's a small, uh, it's

a small grocery store and it's cheaper.

660

: 00:32:27

People think I shop at Trader Joe's.

661

: 00:32:29

Because of all the like cute little like

packages that they have, you know, Like

662

: 00:32:33

they have like seasonal foods and seasonal

like cookies and flavors and everything.

663

: 00:32:37

I'm like, yeah, those are cute

ones you know fun to get once in a

664

: 00:32:39

while, but i'm like literally like

Oh, where was I going with this?

665

: 00:32:46

Hold on.

666

: 00:32:46

It's on the tip of my tongue.

667

: 00:32:48

Um Oh, I'm like, literally I just shopped

there for whole foods, like for my produce

668

: 00:32:53

and my meat, like that's what I cook with.

669

: 00:32:55

Like we don't need a bunch of like boxed

packaged canned stuff in our pantries.

670

: 00:33:01

You literally just need fruits,

vegetables, meat, and dairy.

671

: 00:33:04

You know what I mean?

672

: 00:33:05

Um, so can you just like, can you just

talk to us a little bit about like

673

: 00:33:09

sugar, process, oil, additives, you

know, how does this affect our metabolic

674

: 00:33:13

health and like we're surrounded by

these In restaurants at the grocery

675

: 00:33:19

store, like so much of the food around

us is, is filled with these things.

676

: 00:33:23

Like, why should we be avoiding,

um, how can we make better options?

677

: 00:33:27

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

Yes, such a great question.

678

: 00:33:29

So, I think, so the first one, sugar.

679

: 00:33:32

So, this one is one that we need,

I'm always really careful with

680

: 00:33:36

because this is such a nuanced topic.

681

: 00:33:39

So, a lot of times I'll say to people,

Oh, the seed oils are causing this.

682

: 00:33:43

And they'll be like, and the sugar.

683

: 00:33:44

And I'm like, yes, yes, but we have

to talk about the nuance because it

684

: 00:33:49

kills me when people say sugar is bad

as a blanket statement, which is that

685

: 00:33:54

holistic or not alternative nutrition.

686

: 00:33:57

Like that whole thing, which again,

another thing, don't eat sugar, right?

687

: 00:34:02

Sugar has been demonized for so, so long.

688

: 00:34:05

And, um, It's hard because

our bodies need sugar.

689

: 00:34:08

Like we actually need sugar

to survive and thrive.

690

: 00:34:12

Our livers need sugar in order to operate,

but this is where the topic of quality,

691

: 00:34:17

quantity and timing comes into play.

692

: 00:34:19

So again, with sugar quality, number

one, most important organic and

693

: 00:34:24

unprocessed sugars like high quality

cane sugar, maple syrup, honey,

694

: 00:34:28

coconut sugar, all of those things.

695

: 00:34:30

Are actually great and have a place

in a diet, fruit, sugar, um, fruits,

696

: 00:34:35

all that stuff, quantity matters a

lot too, because of course too much

697

: 00:34:39

of any good thing is a bad thing

and it's very easy to overdo sugar.

698

: 00:34:44

again, with the timing thing, we just

don't want to eat naked, naked carbs.

699

: 00:34:47

We don't want to eat sugar alone

because that's what causes the

700

: 00:34:50

blood sugar spikes and crashes.

701

: 00:34:52

So I first and foremost,

just want to say sugar.

702

: 00:34:56

I actually started, I lost weight

rapidly when I started eating sugar

703

: 00:35:00

again, because my body needed it so bad.

704

: 00:35:02

I didn't go hog wild.

705

: 00:35:04

I didn't binge on sugar.

706

: 00:35:05

I didn't like eat brownies for

every meal, but sugar in the diet,

707

: 00:35:09

in the correct amounts and quality

and quantity and timing, and all of

708

: 00:35:13

that is so, is so important for us.

709

: 00:35:15

So I, first of all, want to clear that up.

710

: 00:35:18

I'm The processed sugars and the stuff

we're getting in like our Starbucks drinks

711

: 00:35:22

or in processed foods or energy drinks or

any of that stuff terrible so much of the

712

: 00:35:28

quote sugar that we're eating these days

is just high fructose corn syrup I mean

713

: 00:35:33

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yeah.

714

: 00:35:34

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

everywhere.

715

: 00:35:35

And I, even, I was at Costco the

other day and they were selling

716

: 00:35:39

SunnyD and I was like, Oh my gosh,

SunnyD, I haven't had this in forever.

717

: 00:35:42

What's in here?

718

: 00:35:44

High fructose corn syrup.

719

: 00:35:45

So this is what we're feeding our kids.

720

: 00:35:47

This is what's in kids drinks and kids

snacks and kids beverages and lunchables

721

: 00:35:52

and fruit by the foot, or all those

snacks we ate growing up, you know?

722

: 00:35:56

So.

723

: 00:35:57

It's that stuff is everywhere.

724

: 00:36:00

That stuff is garbage.

725

: 00:36:01

So it's really, again, quality and

how much you're having, but any sugar

726

: 00:36:06

that you're going to get in process

foods is going to either be too much

727

: 00:36:09

or this, the incorrect form of sugar.

728

: 00:36:12

then we have seed oils truly.

729

: 00:36:14

I fully believe they are one of

the most toxic things that we're

730

: 00:36:17

putting into our bodies and they are

absolutely actually can be directly

731

: 00:36:22

tied to the obesity epidemic.

732

: 00:36:25

It's because they're toxic to the

thyroid and our thyroid is what

733

: 00:36:28

determines the health of our metabolism

and it helps with weight management

734

: 00:36:32

and maintenance and all of that stuff.

735

: 00:36:33

There is an actual graph where you can

see where seed oils were introduced.

736

: 00:36:39

And obesity, and it's just,

they're perfectly in line

737

: 00:36:42

with each other seed oils.

738

: 00:36:44

And to your point earlier, which was so

good about other countries, countries,

739

: 00:36:49

aren't having these problems like we are.

740

: 00:36:51

Cause they're not consuming

these industrial seed oils

741

: 00:36:54

all of their products.

742

: 00:36:56

Like if you go to the store here,

if you were to go to, I don't know,

743

: 00:36:59

Safeway or whatever and get a baguette.

744

: 00:37:01

It's going to be 50 ingredients long.

745

: 00:37:03

There's going to be seed oils in it.

746

: 00:37:05

There's going to be fortified,

um, vitamins and things like that.

747

: 00:37:09

It's also not organic.

748

: 00:37:10

If you were to go to France and

just pop into a bakery and get

749

: 00:37:13

a baguette, it would probably be

about four or five ingredients.

750

: 00:37:16

They would use butter or olive

oil or something like that.

751

: 00:37:20

Um, They don't use the seed oils.

752

: 00:37:22

They don't fortify their grains and

they don't use nearly the amount

753

: 00:37:24

of pesticides and herbicides and

things like that on their products.

754

: 00:37:27

So you can eat the same food and get

a totally different experience, which

755

: 00:37:31

is why and ingredients matter so much.

756

: 00:37:34

It's never the food itself.

757

: 00:37:36

So I will never say.

758

: 00:37:38

Bread is bad.

759

: 00:37:38

In fact, that'd be crazy because

Jesus ate a lot of bread.

760

: 00:37:41

It's the type of ingredients in

the way that the bread is being

761

: 00:37:44

made that makes a food bad.

762

: 00:37:46

So anyway, these oils

are super inflammatory.

763

: 00:37:51

Um, consumption of these oils leads to

an increase in free radicals in the body.

764

: 00:37:55

They are very estrogenic.

765

: 00:37:57

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

that mean?

766

: 00:37:58

Let's break that down for

like our beginner audience.

767

: 00:38:01

I want to know what seed oils, like,

what are the names that we can look

768

: 00:38:04

for on an ingredient label to avoid?

769

: 00:38:06

And what does that mean?

770

: 00:38:07

That it's, what did you say?

771

: 00:38:08

Free radicals in the body.

772

: 00:38:10

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

we'll, we'll go back through that.

773

: 00:38:11

Okay, great.

774

: 00:38:12

Sorry.

775

: 00:38:12

Great point.

776

: 00:38:13

Thanks for bringing me back down.

777

: 00:38:14

Um, okay.

778

: 00:38:15

So seed oils, when you are looking

at a label and you see canola oil,

779

: 00:38:20

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

Um, sprouts.

780

: 00:38:21

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

soybean oil, if you.

781

: 00:38:23

If you grew up in the night

or like you were born in the

782

: 00:38:26

nineties, your mom probably had

that like Crisco vegetable oil.

783

: 00:38:29

That's just straight soybean oil.

784

: 00:38:31

It's so annoying.

785

: 00:38:32

They call it vegetable oil.

786

: 00:38:33

Just call it soybean oil.

787

: 00:38:34

What it is.

788

: 00:38:35

Corn oil, peanut oil,

um, even sunflower oil.

789

: 00:38:39

And that one's sneaky because that's

in a lot of holistic products.

790

: 00:38:42

I mean, so many products, even

at natural grocery stores.

791

: 00:38:46

It's trader Joe's has a bunch of

sunflower oil, natural grocers.

792

: 00:38:50

I mean, does this, this

one people haven't sprouts.

793

: 00:38:54

Like people haven't really picked

up on fact that that's a bad one,

794

: 00:38:58

but what I challenge you guys to

do, and I don't know if you ever do

795

: 00:39:01

link show notes for your podcasts.

796

: 00:39:03

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: do.

797

: 00:39:03

We can link everything.

798

: 00:39:04

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

I will send you a video of it's a five

799

: 00:39:07

minute video on how canola oil is made

800

: 00:39:10

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Cool.

801

: 00:39:11

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

that long of an industrial process.

802

: 00:39:13

It is gray.

803

: 00:39:14

It is gray.

804

: 00:39:15

They bleach it to get it to look like.

805

: 00:39:19

Yeah.

806

: 00:39:20

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Gross.

807

: 00:39:22

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

So, um,

808

: 00:39:23

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

alternatives would be like

809

: 00:39:24

avocado oil and coconut oil,

810

: 00:39:28

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

coconut

811

: 00:39:29

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: butter.

812

: 00:39:30

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

tallow, any of those types of oils.

813

: 00:39:33

Yes.

814

: 00:39:34

So much better.

815

: 00:39:35

And again, you can get these

things at places like Costco and

816

: 00:39:39

they're not much more expensive.

817

: 00:39:41

And they're so, like you

said, so, so worth it.

818

: 00:39:44

Um, but yeah, so great question.

819

: 00:39:47

And they are in the, The problem

with our society is they are

820

: 00:39:52

everywhere and they're in everything.

821

: 00:39:54

So if you go to a restaurant, there's

going to be, you're going to be

822

: 00:39:59

getting food cooked in seed oils, which

is such a bummer because even high

823

: 00:40:02

quality, higher quality restaurants

that maybe have like grass fed beef.

824

: 00:40:07

Most of the time they

cook it in seed oils.

825

: 00:40:08

It's crazy.

826

: 00:40:09

So there is an app where you can

link this in the show notes too.

827

: 00:40:11

It's called seed oil scout, and it can

help you find restaurants in your area

828

: 00:40:17

that are either seed oil friendly.

829

: 00:40:19

So you can go in and say, Hey, I don't

want you to cook this in canola oil.

830

: 00:40:22

Can you cook it in butter?

831

: 00:40:23

And they will, or they just don't

even have seed oils on premise.

832

: 00:40:26

And there's a few, where

we live that are awesome.

833

: 00:40:29

So

834

: 00:40:30

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Awesome.

835

: 00:40:31

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

find some in your area, but I'll put

836

: 00:40:32

that, I'll send that to you so you can

link that in the show notes for everyone.

837

: 00:40:35

Yes,

838

: 00:40:39

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

free radicals, what the seed oils

839

: 00:40:40

do, like why are they so bad?

840

: 00:40:42

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102: yes.

841

: 00:40:42

So keep it less sciencey,

let's just say that they're

842

: 00:40:45

very inflammatory in the body.

843

: 00:40:48

That's why we're seeing this

really epidemic essentially

844

: 00:40:53

with obesity, with inflammation.

845

: 00:40:56

I mean, so many people, I think of course,

excess weight is a problem, but they're

846

: 00:41:00

also just puffy, just really inflamed.

847

: 00:41:03

That is a problem I dealt with when

I was eating a lot of seed oils,

848

: 00:41:08

cause I was doing like sunflower seed

oil for the longest time, you know?

849

: 00:41:12

And so I was just, I just.

850

: 00:41:14

had puffiness and inflammation in my body.

851

: 00:41:16

So they are inflammatory.

852

: 00:41:18

They do become toxic when they're

exposed to heat, which is very

853

: 00:41:22

important because our human body is 98.

854

: 00:41:25

6 degrees.

855

: 00:41:27

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yeah.

856

: 00:41:27

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102: can

actually become rancid just by us eating

857

: 00:41:29

them, even if we haven't cooked with them.

858

: 00:41:32

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Mm hmm.

859

: 00:41:32

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102: And

they also increase estrogen in the body.

860

: 00:41:35

And like we've talked about with the

tap water and in a world where so many

861

: 00:41:39

women suffer from estrogen dominance,

the last thing we need is more estrogen.

862

: 00:41:44

So if you think about a woman living

kind of the conventional American life,

863

: 00:41:47

eating the standard American diet, and

she's drinking tap water and eating

864

: 00:41:51

all these products with seed oils.

865

: 00:41:53

It's no wonder men, or women, and

men, huge emphasis on men, are dealing

866

: 00:42:00

with estrogen dominance issues.

867

: 00:42:02

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yeah,

868

: 00:42:02

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

them just as much as it affects us.

869

: 00:42:04

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

absolutely.

870

: 00:42:06

Okay.

871

: 00:42:06

Bring us back to minerals.

872

: 00:42:09

I know that this is something that's

really big in the holistic nutrition

873

: 00:42:12

space and something I've been

like learning more about recently.

874

: 00:42:15

Tell us why these are so important and

what minerals do for our body and how can

875

: 00:42:19

we make sure we're getting more of these?

876

: 00:42:21

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

Yes, yes, yes.

877

: 00:42:22

I love this question because this

is one of the things I feel like

878

: 00:42:25

nobody is talking about and we

879

: 00:42:27

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yeah.

880

: 00:42:28

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

be talking about it.

881

: 00:42:29

And to be honest, this is no one's fault.

882

: 00:42:31

I didn't even come away from my holistic

nutrition program, understanding how

883

: 00:42:36

important minerals and vitamins were.

884

: 00:42:38

We went through it.

885

: 00:42:38

We learned about it, but.

886

: 00:42:41

wasn't like, this is everything

and it is everything.

887

: 00:42:44

So that's kind of my message,

like minerals and vitamins and the

888

: 00:42:47

quality of what we're getting from

our food is absolutely everything.

889

: 00:42:51

So if we really think about

it, why do we eat food?

890

: 00:42:56

it to feel full?

891

: 00:42:57

Is it to enjoy ourselves?

892

: 00:42:58

Like, why do we eat both of those things

are true, we should actually be eating

893

: 00:43:03

for the nutrient density of that food.

894

: 00:43:06

So that's why the quality.

895

: 00:43:10

The ingredients and like the actual

food that you're eating is so important.

896

: 00:43:13

You're not just eating to satisfy this

need that you have every few hours.

897

: 00:43:17

You're eating to build up your body and to

create yourselves from nourishing foods,

898

: 00:43:23

or you should be, we should be right.

899

: 00:43:25

Um, but again, we were

never, one ever told us this.

900

: 00:43:28

No one ever talked about this.

901

: 00:43:30

So the reason why minerals are so

important is because they are the building

902

: 00:43:34

blocks of life, fertility, and health.

903

: 00:43:37

And to get.

904

: 00:43:38

a tiny bit scientific for a second.

905

: 00:43:40

They're basically just the elements

in foods that our body needs to

906

: 00:43:44

develop and function normally.

907

: 00:43:46

They need, we need minerals in order to

turn the food that we eat into energy.

908

: 00:43:50

We need minerals in order to complete

a variety of metabolic processes.

909

: 00:43:55

So for example, we need,

Potassium for thyroid function.

910

: 00:44:00

No one, no one is

getting enough potassium.

911

: 00:44:03

The only thing anyone knows about

potassium is that if you eat a

912

: 00:44:05

banana, there's potassium in there,

913

: 00:44:07

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Yes.

914

: 00:44:08

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102: that

is a fraction of the potassium that we

915

: 00:44:10

need in a day, like truly a tiny fraction.

916

: 00:44:14

We're not being taught the

importance of minerals in our diet.

917

: 00:44:18

Um, all of that stuff.

918

: 00:44:20

And the biggest thing, and the

reason why this is so important is

919

: 00:44:23

we don't produce minerals at all.

920

: 00:44:25

By ourselves.

921

: 00:44:26

We need to get them from food.

922

: 00:44:28

So if we are not eating extremely

intentionally To get a mineral rich

923

: 00:44:33

nutrient dense diet We are going to fall

majorly short on these minerals that we

924

: 00:44:39

desperately need for our health So why we

have to be so intentional with minerals.

925

: 00:44:44

So Um, how to get minerals again, really,

really, really simple, eat real food.

926

: 00:44:52

So an example that I love to

talk about is ground beef.

927

: 00:44:56

Beef has been demonized for so

long, especially with all like

928

: 00:44:59

the fat police and the fat gurus,

and you know, don't eat beef.

929

: 00:45:03

It's has saturated fat

in it and all this stuff.

930

: 00:45:05

And again, I would agree.

931

: 00:45:06

I don't, I would not eat ground,

like low quality ground beef.

932

: 00:45:09

It's not going to be dense.

933

: 00:45:11

It's, The fat content actually changes

when the quality is a lot lower,

934

: 00:45:18

in three ounces of high quality

ground beef, you can get 22 grams

935

: 00:45:21

of protein, which is fantastic.

936

: 00:45:24

percent of your daily value of vitamin

B12, of your daily value of vitamin B3,

937

: 00:45:30

70 percent of your daily value of zinc.

938

: 00:45:32

And then a lot more trace

minerals like iron, um, selenium.

939

: 00:45:36

There is some potassium in there.

940

: 00:45:38

So eating for quality.

941

: 00:45:41

Will, if you just eat a really nutrient

dense diet, you don't have to worry

942

: 00:45:45

about this stuff because it's loaded.

943

: 00:45:47

God put this stuff in here.

944

: 00:45:48

He put it in here

945

: 00:45:49

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Shocker.

946

: 00:45:50

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

yeah, crazy that he

947

: 00:45:52

knew what he was doing.

948

: 00:45:54

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: Crazy

that he made us and then made the food

949

: 00:45:57

that would new tree that would that would

950

: 00:46:00

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102: us.

951

: 00:46:01

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102: us.

952

: 00:46:02

Like what?

953

: 00:46:03

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

right?

954

: 00:46:05

this is, this is why we're so sick

because we've gotten so far from

955

: 00:46:09

that, that just innate wisdom.

956

: 00:46:13

And just knowing, knowing that because

we've been so confused by these

957

: 00:46:17

big companies and big corporations.

958

: 00:46:18

So.

959

: 00:46:20

It's crazy, but when it comes to

sources of minerals, fruits are

960

: 00:46:24

fantastic sources of minerals.

961

: 00:46:26

They are some of the foods that

are highest in minerals, like

962

: 00:46:29

potassium, but some also contain

copper and then important vitamins

963

: 00:46:33

for skin health and just overall

health, like vitamin C and folates.

964

: 00:46:37

Um, And then of course, meat,

dairy, all of those things.

965

: 00:46:42

Meat is a really important source of

zinc and copper, especially organ meats.

966

: 00:46:47

Um, organ meats are a

really important source.

967

: 00:46:49

Again, something we've totally

lost every culture before us.

968

: 00:46:54

And most cultures to this day

still incorporate organ meats.

969

: 00:46:59

Us in the United States, these are just

kind of like a totally lost art, which is

970

: 00:47:03

really unfortunate because we are low in

a lot of the minerals that they provide.

971

: 00:47:08

Um, and then dairy, dairy is such a

good source of calcium, but it's also

972

: 00:47:12

a great source of magnesium, potassium,

selenium, phosphorus, much more.

973

: 00:47:17

It is a super food, which is why I

do not think you can have a nutrient

974

: 00:47:22

dense, well rounded diet without dairy.

975

: 00:47:24

Dairy is truly that important.

976

: 00:47:27

So that helped.

977

: 00:47:29

Did that answer some

978

: 00:47:30

mari-wagner_1_11-26-2024_090102:

Yes, absolutely.

979

: 00:47:31

Yeah.

980

: 00:47:32

One other thing that comes to mind, it

kind of circles back to when you were

981

: 00:47:35

talking about tap water and you're like,

don't drink tap water alone, you know,

982

: 00:47:39

or like, just don't drink water alone.

983

: 00:47:41

What is that alternative?

984

: 00:47:42

I've definitely heard of people talking

about like things you can put in your

985

: 00:47:45

water to like increase your mineral

intake and make sure that like your

986

: 00:47:48

water is actually hydrating you.

987

: 00:47:50

And you're not just like, like

you said, like just flushing out

988

: 00:47:52

your minerals and your nutrients.

989

: 00:47:54

squadcaster-c2ie_1_11-26-2024_090102:

Totally.

990

: 00:47:55

Great question.

991

: 00:47:55

So right here, I'm drinking my,

um, I call this my hydration bomb.

992

: 00:48:00

So a lot of people, when I used

to do this, I'd wake up and

993

: 00:48:03

just chug like a water bottle.

994

: 00:48:06

And again, flushing my minerals.

995

: 00:48:08

This is water, but it has lemon in

it, has acerola cherry powder, which

996

: 00:48:13

is a great source of vitamin C.

997

: 00:48:16

Um, it has salt and sometimes

I'll put aloe juice in it.

998

: 00:48:20

A little bit of aloe juice.

999

: 00:48:22

Don't do that.

: 1000

00:48:22,659 --> 00:48:23,239

If you're pregnant.

: 1001

00:48:24,169 --> 00:48:27,239

it can apparently cause, I just

always say that because I don't want

: 1002

00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,509

anyone that's pregnant to listen to

this and go pour themselves a glass

: 1003

00:48:30,509 --> 00:48:35,069

of aloe juice, but aloe juice is one

of the richest sources of potassium.

: 1004

00:48:35,069 --> 00:48:37,529

So if you're not pregnant, into that.

: 1005

00:48:37,909 --> 00:48:40,279

Um, yeah, so this is what I drink.

: 1006

00:48:40,289 --> 00:48:43,289

So I will always, and even if I'm

just having a glass of water, I'll

: 1007

00:48:43,289 --> 00:48:44,779

add a little pinch of salt to it.

: 1008

00:48:45,139 --> 00:48:47,919

I will have herbal teas

throughout the day.

: 1009

00:48:47,919 --> 00:48:51,979

So like, I love just to make a

lemon and ginger tea or, um, with

: 1010

00:48:51,979 --> 00:48:55,999

my meals, I'll have orange juice

or coconut water or bone broth.

: 1011

00:48:56,009 --> 00:48:57,879

I'll sometimes sip on

a glass of bone broth.

: 1012

00:48:57,919 --> 00:48:59,509

I also love milk.

: 1013

00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:02,649

I know people are kind of like

iffy on whether or not they

: 1014

00:49:02,649 --> 00:49:03,849

like to just drink milk plain.

: 1015

00:49:03,849 --> 00:49:04,994

You don't have to drink milk plain.

: 1016

00:49:05,284 --> 00:49:08,604

By itself to be healthy, but,

um, I always put it in my coffee.

: 1017

00:49:09,544 --> 00:49:13,034

Uh, again, dairy, like this is

the thing we can get minerals

: 1018

00:49:13,034 --> 00:49:14,724

and hydration from food.

: 1019

00:49:14,734 --> 00:49:16,574

You don't just have to

be drinking plain water.

: 1020

00:49:16,584 --> 00:49:17,884

Fruit is a great source.

: 1021

00:49:18,334 --> 00:49:19,764

Meat is a great source.

: 1022

00:49:19,834 --> 00:49:21,234

Dairy is a great source.

: 1023

00:49:21,384 --> 00:49:24,564

We're trying to hydrate our body

with minerals and those things

: 1024

00:49:24,574 --> 00:49:25,934

are all really mineral rich.

: 1025

00:49:26,299 --> 00:49:26,799

-: 2024

: 1026

00:49:26,819 --> 00:49:27,529

That was so helpful.

: 1027

00:49:27,624 --> 00:49:32,854

Can you shed some light on some

of these like recipe trends that

: 1028

00:49:32,854 --> 00:49:35,744

you see on Instagram and how

important they actually are?

: 1029

00:49:36,014 --> 00:49:39,334

Um, I see these all the

time, like adrenal cocktails.

: 1030

00:49:39,614 --> 00:49:43,144

Uh, people talk about raw milk a

lot, which I want you to touch on.

: 1031

00:49:43,244 --> 00:49:47,344

Um, I see the gelatin

marshmallows everywhere.

: 1032

00:49:47,614 --> 00:49:48,954

The bone broth, hot chocolate.

: 1033

00:49:48,964 --> 00:49:51,534

These are some examples of

recipes that I see like.

: 1034

00:49:51,654 --> 00:49:55,604

Every holistic girl that I follow

on Instagram, like talking about,

: 1035

00:49:56,014 --> 00:49:59,204

and I've incorporated some into

my, into my days and stuff.

: 1036

00:49:59,204 --> 00:50:02,384

But sometimes I think like,

okay, how important are these

: 1037

00:50:02,394 --> 00:50:04,124

things specifically really?

: 1038

00:50:04,454 --> 00:50:07,374

And is this something that

like everybody needs to do?

: 1039

00:50:07,384 --> 00:50:10,644

Like does everybody need to be

drinking an adrenal cocktail every day?

: 1040

00:50:10,654 --> 00:50:15,314

Or like, should we all be drinking

bone broth hot chocolate or

: 1041

00:50:15,314 --> 00:50:16,824

like the gelatin marshmallows?

: 1042

00:50:16,824 --> 00:50:19,404

This was something Trey brought up cause

I brought, I made them at my house.

: 1043

00:50:20,164 --> 00:50:22,704

And he was like, why are

you making marshmallows?

: 1044

00:50:22,704 --> 00:50:24,684

And I'm like, cause they

have beef gelatin in them.

: 1045

00:50:24,684 --> 00:50:25,674

Like, it's good for you.

: 1046

00:50:25,674 --> 00:50:26,614

It's good for your gut.

: 1047

00:50:26,624 --> 00:50:27,404

Like eat one.

: 1048

00:50:27,714 --> 00:50:31,504

And then he's like, okay, like how

much is it actually in, like how much

: 1049

00:50:31,504 --> 00:50:32,644

beef gelatin is actually in there?

: 1050

00:50:32,844 --> 00:50:36,254

And at least the recipe I was using,

it was like a tablespoon or two spread

: 1051

00:50:36,254 --> 00:50:38,034

across like a bajillion marshmallows.

: 1052

00:50:38,314 --> 00:50:42,134

And so he posed the question, he was

like, is this, are these marshmallows

: 1053

00:50:42,174 --> 00:50:45,989

actually like Healthy, like are people

actually saying like you should be eating

: 1054

00:50:45,989 --> 00:50:50,979

those or is it just like a healthier

alternative to a regular marshmallow?

: 1055

00:50:50,999 --> 00:50:52,029

You know what I mean?

: 1056

00:50:52,119 --> 00:50:54,919

Can you just like shed some

light on all of these trends?

: 1057

00:50:54,949 --> 00:50:58,109

-: 2024

totally, yes, such, and I'm so happy

: 1058

00:50:58,109 --> 00:51:03,559

you brought this up because this

is where we see problems start.

: 1059

00:51:03,569 --> 00:51:07,109

So all of the things you

mentioned, fantastic, wonderful,

: 1060

00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:08,249

I can go through all of them.

: 1061

00:51:08,269 --> 00:51:10,629

I recommend these to pretty much everyone.

: 1062

00:51:10,934 --> 00:51:11,924

Lots of benefits.

: 1063

00:51:12,324 --> 00:51:16,394

The problem that I see though is, and

again, no, I don't want anyone hearing

: 1064

00:51:16,394 --> 00:51:18,514

this and thinking this is their own fault.

: 1065

00:51:18,744 --> 00:51:21,414

So this is why my business

partner and I created a course.

: 1066

00:51:21,414 --> 00:51:25,614

We literally have entire

lessons on like oysters.

: 1067

00:51:25,654 --> 00:51:27,274

We have a lesson on the rock carrot salad.

: 1068

00:51:27,304 --> 00:51:30,524

We have a lesson on fruit and fruit

sugar, because we noticed that

: 1069

00:51:30,524 --> 00:51:34,514

people were doing all of these

trends, not really knowing why.

: 1070

00:51:34,884 --> 00:51:35,294

And.

: 1071

00:51:36,389 --> 00:51:37,179

That's okay.

: 1072

00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,869

Like you don't have to fully

understand everything about it.

: 1073

00:51:39,869 --> 00:51:44,719

I think you should, because I think

knowledge is power, but it's sometimes

: 1074

00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:45,799

hard to get that information.

: 1075

00:51:45,799 --> 00:51:48,409

So you just see this and you're like,

Oh, everyone's saying it's good.

: 1076

00:51:48,409 --> 00:51:49,089

Okay, great.

: 1077

00:51:49,419 --> 00:51:52,299

But the, where we see problems

is someone will be like.

: 1078

00:51:53,334 --> 00:51:54,934

Oh, adrenal cocktails are great.

: 1079

00:51:54,944 --> 00:51:57,824

I'll have two a day and they're

drinking them in between meals.

: 1080

00:51:57,854 --> 00:52:00,964

And then they're having terrible

blood sugar spikes and crashes

: 1081

00:52:01,074 --> 00:52:02,394

because it's just fruit juice.

: 1082

00:52:02,564 --> 00:52:05,504

I would never drink an adrenal

cocktail without a meal.

: 1083

00:52:05,514 --> 00:52:07,274

Like I will drink it with my meal.

: 1084

00:52:07,684 --> 00:52:10,644

Um, but I'm not just going to drink it

in the middle of the day, because that's

: 1085

00:52:10,644 --> 00:52:13,594

going to, like we talked about with

the naked carbs, it's going to cause

: 1086

00:52:13,594 --> 00:52:16,124

that spike and crash and blood sugar,

and then you're going to feel bad.

: 1087

00:52:16,444 --> 00:52:16,984

Also.

: 1088

00:52:19,809 --> 00:52:22,669

Sugar is sugar and you

don't want to overdo it.

: 1089

00:52:22,669 --> 00:52:26,439

And we see women jump into these

trends head first and way overdo it.

: 1090

00:52:26,439 --> 00:52:29,019

And that, that can lead to

weight gain pretty, pretty quick.

: 1091

00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,689

so adrenal cocktails are, are great.

: 1092

00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,179

They're one of the best

sources of potassium.

: 1093

00:52:36,629 --> 00:52:39,424

Um, and, They're again,

they're mineral rich.

: 1094

00:52:39,444 --> 00:52:43,924

They're wonderful, but I would do like

one a day and I'd have it with a meal.

: 1095

00:52:43,954 --> 00:52:46,204

I wouldn't have multiple

a day on an empty stomach.

: 1096

00:52:46,214 --> 00:52:49,794

So, um, there's that one raw milk.

: 1097

00:52:49,924 --> 00:52:50,994

Wonderful.

: 1098

00:52:51,794 --> 00:52:56,984

Highly recommend if you can source

raw milk a high quality, um,

: 1099

00:52:57,074 --> 00:52:59,364

rancher, I would absolutely do that.

: 1100

00:52:59,744 --> 00:53:03,444

The reason I'm so passionate about

this is because raw The way that

: 1101

00:53:03,454 --> 00:53:07,804

milk is tested for successful

pasteurization is the lack of enzymes.

: 1102

00:53:08,284 --> 00:53:11,464

So everyone and their mom is lactose

intolerant these days because they're all

: 1103

00:53:11,464 --> 00:53:13,964

eating this low quality pasteurized dairy.

: 1104

00:53:14,384 --> 00:53:16,164

Well, of course you're going

to be lactose intolerant.

: 1105

00:53:16,194 --> 00:53:18,564

There's no enzymes in there

that you need to break it down.

: 1106

00:53:18,564 --> 00:53:21,844

And again, God is so smart.

: 1107

00:53:21,984 --> 00:53:26,794

He created the dairy with the enzymes

that we need in order to digest it.

: 1108

00:53:27,754 --> 00:53:33,484

So we've, all of these sicknesses and

problems we have stem from us going

: 1109

00:53:33,484 --> 00:53:35,074

against the original design of this.

: 1110

00:53:35,084 --> 00:53:38,934

And again, would I ever drink raw

milk from the cows that are in

: 1111

00:53:40,134 --> 00:53:44,654

the big dairy that are in terrible

environments and very sick and filled

: 1112

00:53:44,654 --> 00:53:46,924

with antibiotics, absolutely not.

: 1113

00:53:46,924 --> 00:53:50,254

I would only drink it

from high quality animals.

: 1114

00:53:50,494 --> 00:53:51,864

Um, but raw milk can be great.

: 1115

00:53:51,884 --> 00:53:53,404

Again, we see.

: 1116

00:53:53,554 --> 00:53:56,114

You know, the information

gets out, raw milk is great.

: 1117

00:53:56,114 --> 00:53:58,964

And then we see women going and

drinking like five glasses a day.

: 1118

00:54:00,194 --> 00:54:00,924

Not great.

: 1119

00:54:01,004 --> 00:54:01,524

Right.

: 1120

00:54:01,694 --> 00:54:04,104

Everything should be within moderation.

: 1121

00:54:04,104 --> 00:54:05,574

Too much of a good thing

is always a bad thing.

: 1122

00:54:05,584 --> 00:54:06,904

And we've seen that lead to weight gain.

: 1123

00:54:06,904 --> 00:54:09,574

A couple other ones I can touch

on too is like sourdough bread.

: 1124

00:54:10,494 --> 00:54:11,624

bread is fantastic.

: 1125

00:54:11,804 --> 00:54:12,784

So is butter.

: 1126

00:54:12,944 --> 00:54:17,864

I've had so many women like in my

membership or ask me a question.

: 1127

00:54:17,864 --> 00:54:18,764

Hey, I'm eating.

: 1128

00:54:19,134 --> 00:54:22,469

Um, I'm eating pro metabolic

and I'm rapidly gaining weight.

: 1129

00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:22,849

Okay.

: 1130

00:54:22,849 --> 00:54:23,679

Well, what are you eating?

: 1131

00:54:23,889 --> 00:54:26,499

Well, my snack today was four

pieces of sourdough bread and

: 1132

00:54:26,499 --> 00:54:27,699

four tablespoons of butter.

: 1133

00:54:27,739 --> 00:54:28,599

And you're just like,

: 1134

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That's why girl Yeah

: 1135

00:54:35,864 --> 00:54:38,889

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to just like pound these foods.

: 1136

00:54:38,889 --> 00:54:40,829

You still need to be focusing on proteins.

: 1137

00:54:40,829 --> 00:54:42,579

You still need to be focusing on minerals.

: 1138

00:54:42,599 --> 00:54:46,569

And, um, the problem with these

trends is you see people like

: 1139

00:54:46,569 --> 00:54:47,709

picking and choosing, like.

: 1140

00:54:47,764 --> 00:54:49,744

Ice cream is not bad for me.

: 1141

00:54:49,774 --> 00:54:51,964

Okay, I'm going to have a

pint before I go to bed.

: 1142

00:54:53,354 --> 00:54:55,184

Yeah, that's not going to go well for you.

: 1143

00:54:55,194 --> 00:54:56,514

Like, that's not good for you.

: 1144

00:54:56,564 --> 00:54:59,064

And that's definitely going

to lead to weight gain.

: 1145

00:54:59,064 --> 00:55:02,444

So that's where, that's where

those trends can become a problem.

: 1146

00:55:02,894 --> 00:55:07,994

When it comes to the gelatin marshmallows

or like the gelatin gummies and stuff.

: 1147

00:55:10,324 --> 00:55:11,754

Trey has a great question.

: 1148

00:55:11,754 --> 00:55:18,044

I, so first, let me just explain

and collagen are the same thing.

: 1149

00:55:18,474 --> 00:55:21,634

So collagen is just hydrolyzed gelatin.

: 1150

00:55:21,634 --> 00:55:24,384

It's been through the process of

hydrolyzation, which is where it's

: 1151

00:55:24,444 --> 00:55:25,914

processed with water to make it.

: 1152

00:55:25,914 --> 00:55:27,174

So it dissolves in your drink.

: 1153

00:55:27,614 --> 00:55:30,894

If you were to put gelatin in your

drink, your drink would turn into Jell

: 1154

00:55:30,894 --> 00:55:33,644

O it wouldn't, no one wants to drink it.

: 1155

00:55:33,644 --> 00:55:37,854

So collagen has basically been

created as a way for us to get it in.

: 1156

00:55:40,874 --> 00:55:42,494

I love college and I drink it every day.

: 1157

00:55:42,954 --> 00:55:44,554

So college and a gelatin

are the same thing.

: 1158

00:55:44,834 --> 00:55:47,434

So would you get more from a

whole scoop of gelatin in your

: 1159

00:55:47,434 --> 00:55:49,224

coffee than a gelatin marshmallow?

: 1160

00:55:49,284 --> 00:55:49,934

Yes.

: 1161

00:55:50,364 --> 00:55:54,154

But what I love about things like the

gelatin marshmallows are a, they are

: 1162

00:55:54,154 --> 00:55:57,484

a way, way, way better alternative.

: 1163

00:55:57,484 --> 00:55:59,174

Of course, to any marshmallows

: 1164

00:55:59,474 --> 00:55:59,824

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: 1165

00:56:00,164 --> 00:56:01,464

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getting a benefit from it.

: 1166

00:56:01,464 --> 00:56:04,424

And I think we, I think The big picture.

: 1167

00:56:04,424 --> 00:56:08,494

So like I make the marshmallows a lot

and when I make them, I don't add sugar

: 1168

00:56:08,494 --> 00:56:09,924

to my coffee because they're sweet.

: 1169

00:56:09,944 --> 00:56:12,284

So I just put a marshmallow

in my coffee instead.

: 1170

00:56:12,284 --> 00:56:14,944

So then I'm still getting the

sweetness and I'm also getting

: 1171

00:56:15,014 --> 00:56:16,374

a little bit more gelatin.

: 1172

00:56:17,544 --> 00:56:21,454

I think the benefit is that it's just

these little things that we add to our

: 1173

00:56:21,454 --> 00:56:23,404

diet every day that make the difference.

: 1174

00:56:23,404 --> 00:56:26,654

If we're doing the marshmallows and the

raw carrot salad, when we're having raw

: 1175

00:56:26,674 --> 00:56:31,014

milk and we're having an adrenal cocktail

over the course of a day, that's going to

: 1176

00:56:31,014 --> 00:56:33,524

end up at being a very nutrient rich day.

: 1177

00:56:33,734 --> 00:56:35,844

Do you need gelatin marshmallows?

: 1178

00:56:36,184 --> 00:56:37,104

No, you don't.

: 1179

00:56:37,374 --> 00:56:38,034

They're fun.

: 1180

00:56:38,084 --> 00:56:40,454

They're definitely like more of

a dessert type thing, but they

: 1181

00:56:40,454 --> 00:56:42,604

do, they do still have a benefit.

: 1182

00:56:42,614 --> 00:56:44,484

So hopefully that answers the question.

: 1183

00:56:44,794 --> 00:56:46,324

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It absolutely does.

: 1184

00:56:46,334 --> 00:56:46,724

Yeah.

: 1185

00:56:46,854 --> 00:56:47,784

Thank you for that.

: 1186

00:56:47,914 --> 00:56:51,954

I didn't know collagen

was the same as gelatin.

: 1187

00:56:52,164 --> 00:56:56,424

So like we're like, if gelatin is so

good, like as long as you're drinking

: 1188

00:56:56,424 --> 00:56:59,494

collagen, you know, like collagen

powder in your drink, like you're

: 1189

00:56:59,494 --> 00:57:00,584

getting that nutrient that you need.

: 1190

00:57:01,484 --> 00:57:01,744

-: 2024

Yeah.

: 1191

00:57:01,744 --> 00:57:05,964

And of course, I mean, the

best, the most optimal is.

: 1192

00:57:06,659 --> 00:57:10,769

Making like a homemade bone broth

or a homemade, uh, like beef

: 1193

00:57:10,769 --> 00:57:12,009

shanks or something like that.

: 1194

00:57:12,009 --> 00:57:15,309

That's a really gelatinous cut of

meat that we'll have it in there.

: 1195

00:57:15,629 --> 00:57:20,869

That's going to be the best, but I love

the option of having things like collagen

: 1196

00:57:20,869 --> 00:57:24,639

and the gelatin powders and stuff like

that, because a lot of us are busy and a

: 1197

00:57:24,639 --> 00:57:26,629

lot of us have a lot of things going on.

: 1198

00:57:26,629 --> 00:57:30,279

And think that there's all what you

can always figure out time to make bone

: 1199

00:57:30,279 --> 00:57:34,654

broth and things like that, but it's just

a great, um, That is what would be, I

: 1200

00:57:34,654 --> 00:57:36,174

would consider a nutritional supplement.

: 1201

00:57:36,184 --> 00:57:38,544

Like it's something we can add to

our diet that has a benefit, but

: 1202

00:57:38,544 --> 00:57:39,974

our diet is not built around that.

: 1203

00:57:39,974 --> 00:57:40,964

If that makes sense.

: 1204

00:57:41,304 --> 00:57:42,004

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Absolutely.

: 1205

00:57:42,024 --> 00:57:42,984

And I mean, it's true.

: 1206

00:57:42,984 --> 00:57:45,934

Like we still have to make the

best choices that we can with

: 1207

00:57:45,934 --> 00:57:47,194

the lifestyle that we're in.

: 1208

00:57:47,194 --> 00:57:50,624

And like, not everybody has the ability

to make like, you know, fresh bone

: 1209

00:57:50,624 --> 00:57:52,004

broth from scratch every single day.

: 1210

00:57:52,544 --> 00:57:53,104

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Totally.

: 1211

00:57:53,104 --> 00:57:54,604

And I, I think it's like.

: 1212

00:57:55,444 --> 00:58:00,074

just look at the, look at the market

of protein powder and stuff, right?

: 1213

00:58:00,114 --> 00:58:05,334

I would tell someone to drink collagen

every single day over any plant based

: 1214

00:58:05,344 --> 00:58:10,964

protein and 99 percent of whey proteins or

soy proteins or anything else out there.

: 1215

00:58:10,974 --> 00:58:14,724

So, um, collagen is

not a complete protein.

: 1216

00:58:14,724 --> 00:58:16,554

That's something really

important to understand.

: 1217

00:58:16,554 --> 00:58:20,619

So you can't just, Like I had a

girl one time, a client trying

: 1218

00:58:20,804 --> 00:58:23,174

to hit, increase her protein.

: 1219

00:58:23,284 --> 00:58:25,374

And so she started to.

: 1220

00:58:26,024 --> 00:58:29,944

To use like six scoops of collagen

a day, which is again, where I'm

: 1221

00:58:29,944 --> 00:58:31,074

like, collagen is a supplement.

: 1222

00:58:31,084 --> 00:58:33,634

There's benefits to it, but it's

not a complete protein, meaning it

: 1223

00:58:33,634 --> 00:58:38,544

doesn't contain all the amino acids

that like meat or dairy would contain.

: 1224

00:58:38,784 --> 00:58:41,234

So you're not getting

everything you need from it.

: 1225

00:58:41,234 --> 00:58:43,984

You cannot rely on collagen

as a protein source.

: 1226

00:58:44,314 --> 00:58:46,274

Does it count towards

your daily protein intake?

: 1227

00:58:46,284 --> 00:58:47,384

Yes, absolutely.

: 1228

00:58:47,514 --> 00:58:51,284

But it should never be like the bulk

or the foundation of that intake.

: 1229

00:58:52,234 --> 00:58:52,914

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So good to know.

: 1230

00:58:53,664 --> 00:58:54,684

Um, okay.

: 1231

00:58:54,834 --> 00:58:58,264

As we wrap up here, can we just,

can you just share, like, why is

: 1232

00:58:58,264 --> 00:58:59,524

this information so important?

: 1233

00:58:59,544 --> 00:59:02,914

Like why is this particular way of

eating something you're passionate about?

: 1234

00:59:03,224 --> 00:59:04,904

Um, I think one thing we

didn't necessarily touch

: 1235

00:59:04,904 --> 00:59:06,984

on is like, why metabolic?

: 1236

00:59:07,014 --> 00:59:08,164

Like, like, like what does.

: 1237

00:59:08,744 --> 00:59:11,174

Our metabolism really

have to do with all this.

: 1238

00:59:11,174 --> 00:59:13,784

Like why are we choosing to

like feed our metabolism?

: 1239

00:59:13,784 --> 00:59:17,444

Why is that such a focus and why is

just this something that's so important?

: 1240

00:59:17,974 --> 00:59:18,404

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Yeah.

: 1241

00:59:18,464 --> 00:59:18,884

Yeah.

: 1242

00:59:19,014 --> 00:59:19,834

Great question.

: 1243

00:59:20,174 --> 00:59:25,274

So the reason I am so,

so let's start there.

: 1244

00:59:25,494 --> 00:59:29,034

The metabolism is what

runs your entire body.

: 1245

00:59:29,384 --> 00:59:33,224

So that's what earlier when we talked

about like the thyroid and the metabolism,

: 1246

00:59:33,474 --> 00:59:37,394

these are the two things that have to be

functioning well in order for the rest

: 1247

00:59:37,404 --> 00:59:39,661

of the processes in your body to work.

: 1248

00:59:40,084 --> 00:59:41,534

So that's why, again, like.

: 1249

00:59:41,994 --> 00:59:43,524

Acne is not your problem.

: 1250

00:59:43,544 --> 00:59:44,894

Weight gain is not your problem.

: 1251

00:59:44,904 --> 00:59:46,474

Migraines are not your problem.

: 1252

00:59:46,704 --> 00:59:50,684

The problem is that on like a cellular

level, the way that your metabolism is

: 1253

00:59:50,694 --> 00:59:55,144

functioning and the metabolism is really

just what determines the process and speed

: 1254

00:59:55,144 --> 00:59:56,714

of how everything happens in your body.

: 1255

00:59:56,714 --> 01:00:00,384

And if it's going well, or if it's

not, if something is off there,

: 1256

01:00:01,559 --> 01:00:03,159

Everything else is going to be off.

: 1257

01:00:03,169 --> 01:00:05,989

So that's why we put such a

focus on your metabolic health.

: 1258

01:00:05,989 --> 01:00:09,059

It determines everything about your body.

: 1259

01:00:09,299 --> 01:00:11,959

And that's why you'll hear a lot

of people say when they heal their

: 1260

01:00:11,959 --> 01:00:13,309

metabolism, they lose weight.

: 1261

01:00:14,124 --> 01:00:17,234

Like you don't have to

focus on the problem.

: 1262

01:00:17,234 --> 01:00:18,684

You just have to focus on the root.

: 1263

01:00:18,714 --> 01:00:22,464

And like, if you, if you think

about the metabolism, like it's

: 1264

01:00:22,464 --> 01:00:24,134

the root system of a plant, right?

: 1265

01:00:24,234 --> 01:00:26,994

If your plant has a problem and you're

just treating the leaves, you're

: 1266

01:00:27,004 --> 01:00:30,874

cutting the leaves, you're spraying

the leaves that is not healing the

: 1267

01:00:30,874 --> 01:00:33,144

root system of what's going on.

: 1268

01:00:33,144 --> 01:00:34,084

The roots are what.

: 1269

01:00:35,054 --> 01:00:36,326

the nutrients, right?

: 1270

01:00:36,326 --> 01:00:38,994

The roots are what determine

the health of that plant.

: 1271

01:00:39,344 --> 01:00:43,044

If you are completely ignoring the

roots and the pots all dry and there's

: 1272

01:00:43,044 --> 01:00:47,964

no water and you're not fertilizing it,

you're not going to have a healthy plant.

: 1273

01:00:48,094 --> 01:00:51,004

And if you continue to treat

the roots, they are the leaves.

: 1274

01:00:51,004 --> 01:00:53,884

They might look a little bit

better sometimes, but it's never

: 1275

01:00:53,894 --> 01:00:56,224

going to heal the actual problem.

: 1276

01:00:56,234 --> 01:00:58,814

So that is why we put such

a focus on the metabolism.

: 1277

01:00:58,824 --> 01:01:01,464

The metabolism is that

root system of our body.

: 1278

01:01:03,114 --> 01:01:07,564

And the reason I'm so passionate about

this information is because this is the

: 1279

01:01:07,564 --> 01:01:10,644

way that God designed us to eat and live.

: 1280

01:01:10,664 --> 01:01:14,564

That's kind of like my, my tagline for my

business is helping women get back to the

: 1281

01:01:14,564 --> 01:01:16,194

way God designed them to eat and live.

: 1282

01:01:16,574 --> 01:01:21,774

Because the reason we are so sick

a culture is because we've never

: 1283

01:01:21,774 --> 01:01:23,224

been further from that design.

: 1284

01:01:23,254 --> 01:01:25,344

Again, not by our own.

: 1285

01:01:26,314 --> 01:01:27,204

It's not our fault.

: 1286

01:01:27,244 --> 01:01:28,204

We didn't do this.

: 1287

01:01:28,234 --> 01:01:30,174

This is absolutely.

: 1288

01:01:31,159 --> 01:01:35,839

In my opinion, Satan coming in

and infiltrating this, right?

: 1289

01:01:35,839 --> 01:01:40,869

So big pharma, big food, these

big companies telling us what's

: 1290

01:01:40,879 --> 01:01:43,929

good for us so that they make

more money, but we get sicker.

: 1291

01:01:44,419 --> 01:01:45,309

It's crazy.

: 1292

01:01:45,319 --> 01:01:48,339

So we've never been further

from what God designed for us.

: 1293

01:01:48,769 --> 01:01:49,509

And I.

: 1294

01:01:50,009 --> 01:01:53,799

I'm really passionate because I

think we pray for miracles of healing

: 1295

01:01:53,799 --> 01:01:55,729

from diseases of modern culture.

: 1296

01:01:56,109 --> 01:01:59,879

And I think a lot of the time, the

miracles already right in front of us,

: 1297

01:01:59,899 --> 01:02:05,459

like God already provided the miracle

and we just need to tap back into it.

: 1298

01:02:05,579 --> 01:02:07,589

I just, it's this, the disconnection.

: 1299

01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:11,259

So that's why I'm so passionate is

just helping women to understand

: 1300

01:02:11,259 --> 01:02:16,019

that it is so much more simple

than we could ever imagine.

: 1301

01:02:16,059 --> 01:02:19,119

I mean, seriously, you can literally

go, well, what did Jesus eat?

: 1302

01:02:19,724 --> 01:02:25,874

Fish, meat, dairy, bread, olives, fruit.

: 1303

01:02:26,444 --> 01:02:27,644

It's that simple.

: 1304

01:02:27,694 --> 01:02:28,574

It seriously is.

: 1305

01:02:28,574 --> 01:02:33,334

We've just gotten so confused and so lost

and so disconnected from that over time.

: 1306

01:02:34,384 --> 01:02:35,434

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Wow, thank you.

: 1307

01:02:35,494 --> 01:02:38,944

This episode is literally

a gold mine . Like

: 1308

01:02:39,274 --> 01:02:39,354

-: 2024

Okay.

: 1309

01:02:39,694 --> 01:02:42,394

-: 2024

excited for people to listen to this.

: 1310

01:02:42,424 --> 01:02:46,774

Um, I know from my own experience, 'cause

I've been learning about this for years

: 1311

01:02:46,774 --> 01:02:49,774

now, and listening to other podcasts

that has shared all this information,

: 1312

01:02:50,044 --> 01:02:51,454

especially when you're starting out.

: 1313

01:02:51,663 --> 01:02:54,744

Which I feel like a lot of my followers

and kind of like what I share is a

: 1314

01:02:54,744 --> 01:02:57,864

lot of like the beginning steps of

how to get into all this, especially

: 1315

01:02:57,864 --> 01:03:00,564

when you're starting out, it can be a

little overwhelming to hear all of this

: 1316

01:03:00,564 --> 01:03:03,663

information and be like, great food's bad.

: 1317

01:03:03,774 --> 01:03:05,694

You know, seed oils are everywhere.

: 1318

01:03:05,844 --> 01:03:10,804

Like my tap water is killing me and

turning my husband into a woman.

: 1319

01:03:10,804 --> 01:03:14,494

Like, you know, like, so

if someone could just make.

: 1320

01:03:14,804 --> 01:03:20,064

One or two changes, maybe like just this

week, like, where would you point them to?

: 1321

01:03:20,064 --> 01:03:22,484

What would be like the one or two

things that you would just say, like,

: 1322

01:03:22,484 --> 01:03:26,104

focus on this first and then build up

from there because we want to build up.

: 1323

01:03:26,104 --> 01:03:30,314

We want to, like, continue to, we

want to, like, get here to a point

: 1324

01:03:30,324 --> 01:03:33,234

to where we're like doing all these

things, but it's okay to start small.

: 1325

01:03:33,234 --> 01:03:36,474

So what would be your recommendation

of like, 1 or 2 things that people

: 1326

01:03:36,474 --> 01:03:37,954

should start incorporating today?

: 1327

01:03:38,424 --> 01:03:40,024

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Yes, love this question.

: 1328

01:03:40,254 --> 01:03:45,784

So my first answer is going to be tap

water filter your water Seriously, if

: 1329

01:03:45,784 --> 01:03:50,954

you never do anything that I ever say

But you just filter your water amazing

: 1330

01:03:51,094 --> 01:03:55,894

like that will that will provide you

so many benefits in the long run um, I

: 1331

01:03:55,894 --> 01:04:00,344

can also send you a link of the company

of water filters that I recommend the

: 1332

01:04:00,344 --> 01:04:03,604

reason I love this company is because

they filter out the widest variety

: 1333

01:04:03,604 --> 01:04:07,959

of toxins and heavy metals And they

have so many entry points for price.

: 1334

01:04:08,169 --> 01:04:11,609

So if you're just getting started and

you don't want to spend a couple hundred

: 1335

01:04:11,609 --> 01:04:15,439

on a water filter, you can get a pitcher

filter for less than a hundred dollars.

: 1336

01:04:15,729 --> 01:04:19,459

So it, and then there's also a fridge

filter, a universal fridge filter.

: 1337

01:04:19,459 --> 01:04:22,579

So if you drink water from your

fridge, you just hook it up to

: 1338

01:04:22,579 --> 01:04:24,339

the water line behind your fridge.

: 1339

01:04:24,529 --> 01:04:25,538

Lasts for a year.

: 1340

01:04:25,538 --> 01:04:27,809

And then if you want something

more advanced, you can get

: 1341

01:04:27,819 --> 01:04:28,879

an under the sink filter.

: 1342

01:04:28,966 --> 01:04:33,119

So it has multiple different price

points, but filter your water number one.

: 1343

01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:38,689

And then number two, eat more

high quality animal protein home.

: 1344

01:04:38,889 --> 01:04:42,259

So that kind of encompasses a bunch of

things, but just more home cooking and

: 1345

01:04:42,259 --> 01:04:44,419

more high quality animal protein at home.

: 1346

01:04:44,649 --> 01:04:47,489

Cause when you're eating at home,

you have control over everything

: 1347

01:04:47,489 --> 01:04:49,949

that goes into your food and you

don't need to cook with canola oil.

: 1348

01:04:49,949 --> 01:04:50,909

You can cook with butter.

: 1349

01:04:50,909 --> 01:04:53,079

You can cook with coconut oil.

: 1350

01:04:53,079 --> 01:04:54,199

You can cook with tallow.

: 1351

01:04:54,944 --> 01:04:57,634

Those that will make such a

huge difference and they're

: 1352

01:04:57,634 --> 01:04:58,823

just increasing that protein.

: 1353

01:04:58,994 --> 01:05:05,014

So protein cooking at home and tap water

are the main, the three things I would

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say, if you just did that, that probably

be the bulk of what you, you need to do.

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Of course you can get so much further.

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And a lot of times you do

need to dive in a lot more.

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I had to in order to heal.

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Um, but those three things for everyone

should just be like the basics.

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Absolutely.

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Yeah, this was so good.

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Thank you for your generosity and

coming on here and sharing all of

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your wisdom with our listeners.

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Um, like Anika said, she has

a course where she dives even

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deeper into all this stuff.

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So we're definitely going to

link that in the show notes.

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Cause I feel like if you're really

interested in this and you want to

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take it to the next step, that's

going to be a great resource to go to.

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Anika, where can people find you?

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Well, thank you.

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First of all, so much for having me.

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I love talking about this with you

and I just, I love sharing about this.

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So thank you for giving me

the platform to do that.

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Uh, but you guys can find me on

Instagram at I am Anika Nicole.

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Thanks girl.

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much.

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