In this practical episode, Tim Harrison, Founder and CEO of Coaching Innovation Lab, shares how AI can be your most powerful leverage tool as a stage 2 solopreneur. If you're overwhelmed wearing every hat, struggling with time constraints, and doing too much low-value work yourself, you won't want to miss it.
You will discover:
- Why AI is now the essential third option beyond just eliminate or delegate
- How to focus on your zone of genius while letting AI handle everything else
- What it takes to build simple systems that multiply your impact and productivity
This episode is ideal for for Founders, Owners, and CEOs in stage 2 of The Founder's Evolution. Not sure which stage you're in? Find out for free in less than 10 minutes at https://www.scalearchitects.com/founders/quiz
Tim Harrison is a pioneer at the intersection of Coaching and AI. As the founder of the Coaching Innovation Lab, he specializes in advising, training, and consulting solopreneurs and organizations on the practical application of AI. Tim’s leadership in the field is globally recognized. He was one of eight experts selected for the International Coaching Federation’s (ICF) Global Taskforce on AI, helping to shape industry standards around the use of AI. His innovative work includes founding the nonprofit EPOG Academy, which developed PowerPath, an AI-powered coaching system designed to bridge guidance gaps in education, and leading Project BEACON, an NIH study measuring the impact of coaching for underrepresented biomedical PhD students.
Want to learn more about Tim Harrison's work at Coaching Innovation Lab? Check out his website at https://coachinginnovationlab.com/
Connect with Tim through his LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/coachtimharrison/
Hello, hello, and welcome. Welcome once again
Scott Ritzheimer:to the Start, Scale, and Succeed podcast, the only podcast that
Scott Ritzheimer:grows with you through all seven levels of your journey as a
Scott Ritzheimer:founder. I'm your host, Scott Retheimer, and today we're
Scott Ritzheimer:talking to the founders who want to win in what I think is aptly,
Scott Ritzheimer:should aptly be known as the automation age, especially those
Scott Ritzheimer:of you who are in level two and are doing absolutely everything
Scott Ritzheimer:yourself, because historically, if you're in level two and it's
Scott Ritzheimer:just you and maybe one or two people helping you, kind of had
Scott Ritzheimer:two choices, you could either, if you were, if your schedule is
Scott Ritzheimer:full, you could either stop doing something, we would call
Scott Ritzheimer:that eliminate, or you could hire somebody else and delegate
Scott Ritzheimer:to them, and both of those opportunities can be helpful,
Scott Ritzheimer:but they have their flaws, and more than ever, there is a third
Scott Ritzheimer:option that's available to us, and that is the ability to
Scott Ritzheimer:automate and to unpack that, what it would look like, and how
Scott Ritzheimer:you can start implementing it today. I am thrilled to welcome
Scott Ritzheimer:Tim Harrison, who is a pioneer at the intersection of both
Scott Ritzheimer:coaching and AI. As the founder of Coaching Innovation Lab, he
Scott Ritzheimer:specializes in advising, training, and consulting
Scott Ritzheimer:solopreneurs and organizations on the practical application of
Scott Ritzheimer:AI. Tim's leadership in the field is globally recognized.
Scott Ritzheimer:He's one of the eight experts selected for the International
Scott Ritzheimer:Coaching Federation's Global Task Force on AI, helping to
Scott Ritzheimer:shape industry standards around the use of AI. His innovative
Scott Ritzheimer:work includes founding the nonprofit EPO G Academy, which
Scott Ritzheimer:developed Power Path, an AI-powered coaching system
Scott Ritzheimer:designed to bridge guidance gaps in education, and leading
Scott Ritzheimer:Project Beacon, an NIH study measuring the impact of coaching
Scott Ritzheimer:for underrepresented biomedical PhD students. He's here with us
Scott Ritzheimer:today. Tim, I'm really excited about this conversation. One of
Scott Ritzheimer:the things I said is a lot of times these conversations on AI
Scott Ritzheimer:can just go 1000 different ways all at once, but I love your
Scott Ritzheimer:specialty in this, or your focus in this on how we can use it for
Scott Ritzheimer:for solopreneurs, and to an extent the organizations that
Scott Ritzheimer:they start, and so I'm wondering if just right out of the gate
Scott Ritzheimer:you can start with the mindset shift that you're seeing
Scott Ritzheimer:solopreneurs have to make in this age, where so many AR tools
Scott Ritzheimer:are available.
Unknown:Yeah, there, Scott, it's great to be here. Thanks
Unknown:for having me. There is so much information out there about AI.
Unknown:There's so much hype. Is it going to destroy the planet and
Unknown:destroy us, or is it going to be our savior, and I think you have
Unknown:to have a balanced perspective. When I say AI, I like to say
Unknown:applied innovation, because it's never about the technology, it's
Unknown:about our ability to do things better. And for solopreneurs,
Unknown:many of them, like you said, are the only person in their
Unknown:business, they're doing everything, they're wearing a
Unknown:lot of hats, and so there's never been a more powerful
Unknown:technology and opportunity to expand what's what an individual
Unknown:is capable of than now.
Scott Ritzheimer:That's awesome. One of the reasons I've
Scott Ritzheimer:seen folks be somewhat reluctant is they just don't know how to
Scott Ritzheimer:start, so I would imagine that most people have kind of started
Scott Ritzheimer:now, but let's say we had the opportunity to kind of push
Scott Ritzheimer:reset and start the best way possible. What's the best way to
Scott Ritzheimer:start thinking about and using some of these AI technologies?
Unknown:Do what you do best, let AI do the rest. Right, there
Unknown:is now an opportunity to rethink what is it that's worth doing,
Unknown:and where should I be spending my time? Everyone has the same
Unknown:challenge. There's only 24 hours in a day, and everyone has the
Unknown:same challenge, that most of what we do doesn't matter at
Unknown:all. There's something called the Pareto principle, or the
Unknown:8020 rule, where 20% of our input is responsible for 80% of
Unknown:our output, and the opposite is also true, 80% of what we spend
Unknown:our time on is only responsible for 20% of our output, and so if
Unknown:you want to maximize your impact and your influence and your
Unknown:productivity, you have to figure out how to maximize the time
Unknown:spent in that 20% that has outsized returns, and AI is now
Unknown:that third option, like you mentioned, you can eliminate
Unknown:things, take things off your plate, you can simplify them, do
Unknown:the minimum viable version of it. Now you can automate. Now
Unknown:you can automate, right. And so what you want to do is, you want
Unknown:to look at, well, what are the things that AI is just as good
Unknown:as I am, or better at, or better, and trade off, hand it
Unknown:off to AI, hand it off to those systems, right. Everyone has
Unknown:four zones of ability: you have your zone of incompetence, your
Unknown:zone of competence, your zone of excellence, and your zone of
Unknown:genius. Zone of incompetence are things that maybe you're not
Unknown:great at, or things that anyone can do just as well as you,
Unknown:right, like the. Data entry, you know, basic analysis, basic
Unknown:summary, that kind of thing. Your zone of competence are
Unknown:things that you do average. Most people can do them, you're not
Unknown:bad at it, but you know it's pretty average. And the zone of
Unknown:excellence are things that you do above average, right? And
Unknown:then zone of genius are the things that you do that are
Unknown:unique to you that you tend to get the most fulfillment and
Unknown:reward from, and they have the greatest impact on your
Unknown:business. So, you want to do is, you want to minimize your time
Unknown:spent doing the things that are average or below, and you want
Unknown:to maximize time spent on the things that you're above average
Unknown:or great at, right? And that makes sense. And so, now AI is
Unknown:an opportunity to hand off those things that are average or
Unknown:below, so you maximize time spent on the things that have
Unknown:the greatest impact.
Scott Ritzheimer:Yeah, it's really helpful. One of the
Scott Ritzheimer:things I've seen, and I'd love your insight on this, is there
Scott Ritzheimer:are some things that AI isn't good at, or as good as it needs
Scott Ritzheimer:to be, and sometimes it can make mistakes and errors, and one of
Scott Ritzheimer:the challenges I've seen is folks who have jumped straight
Scott Ritzheimer:to the bottom of that tank, like these are the things that I
Scott Ritzheimer:don't do well, let me have AI do them, and one of the challenges
Scott Ritzheimer:with starting there is you don't know if the output is good or
Scott Ritzheimer:not to some extent, right, like if I was, if I was going back to
Scott Ritzheimer:school to be a rocket scientist or something, I don't know if
Scott Ritzheimer:that's a thing, but I wouldn't know if the answers that it was
Scott Ritzheimer:giving to me were right or wrong. That's not very helpful,
Scott Ritzheimer:whereas in that zone of competence, things that I can do
Scott Ritzheimer:but I don't really care to do, it's much easier to see, hey, am
Scott Ritzheimer:I getting a good result back or not? And I have found that that
Scott Ritzheimer:tends to be some of the lower hanging fruit. Would you agree?
Unknown:I would agree in the fact that you're not able to
Unknown:evaluate the response as well if you don't, if you're not skilled
Unknown:in that area. However, if you're not skilled in that area, the
Unknown:odds are that the basic that you're going to get from AI
Unknown:might actually exceed what you're doing. So it's a trade
Unknown:off, and the areas that I'm great at, I'm able to
Unknown:distinguish and have judgment and taste around what's good and
Unknown:what's not, but if I'm not able to do that, the odds are that
Unknown:the AI might actually boost my baseline for that. Right, there
Unknown:was a research study that they did called the Cybernetic
Unknown:Teammate. You can look it up, but what they did is they had
Unknown:individuals use AI and compare them on performance to teams who
Unknown:didn't use AI right, so imagine you had someone who was a
Unknown:marketer and someone who was, you know, had a financial
Unknown:background, and they had them run a campaign together, and
Unknown:then you had an individual who was either a marketer or a
Unknown:financial advisor, or had a finance, you know, was a finance
Unknown:professional, and they used AI for the opposite, so the
Unknown:marketing person use AI for finance, the finance person use
Unknown:AI for marketing. The individuals who use AI
Unknown:outperform the team of the marketer and the financial
Unknown:person. Wow, right? And this is good news if you're a
Unknown:solopreneur, because you're wearing a lot of hats: you're
Unknown:wearing the marketing hat, you're wearing the financial
Unknown:hat, you're wearing whatever service you provide hat, you're
Unknown:wearing the backend hat, all of that at once, and so it's
Unknown:actually good news, but when you double click and look into why
Unknown:it worked, well, it bridged the skill gap, so the financial
Unknown:person must have been well below average on the marketing side,
Unknown:and vice versa, and the AI bridged that gap, it actually
Unknown:raised their level, so they could be average or above
Unknown:average, however, it didn't improve their existing skill, so
Unknown:AI didn't make them a better marketer, or AI didn't make them
Unknown:better at finance. So, there's a saying I like to say: is it
Unknown:raises the floor, but the ceiling is still up to you,
Unknown:right? So, it can bridge the gaps of things that you're not
Unknown:good at, but you still have to work on your judgment and your
Unknown:taste, so using AI is an excuse not to develop skill, but it
Unknown:allows you to choose which skills have are worth
Unknown:developing, because you can augment the rest of them.
Scott Ritzheimer:That's awesome. That is great news from
Scott Ritzheimer:a study standpoint, and really, really helpful insight. So, you
Scott Ritzheimer:work a lot with coaches, and I would say coaches are kind of a
Scott Ritzheimer:helpful example of what a lot of long-term solopreneurs are,
Scott Ritzheimer:right, professional service providers, folks that are good
Scott Ritzheimer:at what they do, and, and for those folks, one of the biggest
Scott Ritzheimer:things, and you touched on this in the very beginning of the
Scott Ritzheimer:show, is to get as much of the other stuff off of your plate as
Scott Ritzheimer:you can, and that allows us to maximize our dollars per hour
Scott Ritzheimer:worked. It allows us to do things that we enjoy doing, and
Scott Ritzheimer:can fill in some really, really big gaps, because most of us
Scott Ritzheimer:aren't great at everything, right. And so, for a coach
Scott Ritzheimer:looking at how to start automating AI, maybe they've
Scott Ritzheimer:separated some of these different zones. What are some
Scott Ritzheimer:of the best ways you see coaches or other professional service
Scott Ritzheimer:providers using AI to save time?
Unknown:Yeah, for one, you have to just use it. You are the
Unknown:expert at your business, and you're the expert at your
Unknown:domain, and these companies, OpenAI. Google Anthropic, you
Unknown:know, X AI, they're going to come out with these incredible
Unknown:models, and they're going to get smarter and smarter and smarter,
Unknown:but they're not going to tell you what that actually looks
Unknown:like in your business, right? And so you have to get your
Unknown:hands dirty and start using it, because that's where first value
Unknown:is going to going to come. After that, it's not just about using
Unknown:the tools, right? You don't rise to the level of your goals, you
Unknown:fall to the level of your systems, and the people who have
Unknown:the greatest results with this are the ones who built a system
Unknown:around it. When you look back at the past, sometimes you can
Unknown:predict the future, and in the last great technological
Unknown:revolution, we had the combustion engine, right, that
Unknown:was invented, and everyone knew, just like they know now, that
Unknown:this new powerful technology was going to transform the way that
Unknown:people do transportation and transform the way that they do
Unknown:work. But if you go back, you can look this up. What were some
Unknown:of the early mock-ups, some of the early inventions with the
Unknown:new engine? And you would see a horse carriage with an engine in
Unknown:the back, because they thought, oh, wow, this is going to make
Unknown:the horses faster, they're going to be able to carry heavily,
Unknown:heavier weight, they're going to last a lot longer, because
Unknown:there's less wear and tear, and it's very logical to think that,
Unknown:because they spent their whole life traveling via horse, so
Unknown:that was their only mental model, and we look back at that,
Unknown:and we laugh, because we think obviously it was the automobile,
Unknown:it was the Model T that ended up being the real breakthrough that
Unknown:the combustion engine allowed for, and if you look at a lot of
Unknown:current AI use today, it's like that engine-powered horse and
Unknown:buggy, we have this new AI-powered engine, but we're
Unknown:just slapping it on and bolting it on to the existing way that
Unknown:we do things. The greatest opportunity with AI is not just
Unknown:doing things a little bit better, a little bit faster, a
Unknown:little bit cheaper, it's in the new things that are now
Unknown:possible. What's the Model T in your area? And so, for people
Unknown:who are looking to get the most out of it, don't just ask, "Hey,
Unknown:can AI do this? Ask, what is now possible, and that's the
Unknown:difference between being able to go from zero to 60. To give a
Unknown:very practical example, let's say you're a coach or you're an
Unknown:advisor, you're a consultant. What you do is you hop on calls
Unknown:with people and you're paid for your expertise, right? If you
Unknown:have your system currently set up from an AI native
Unknown:perspective. You may have an AI note taker that is on the call,
Unknown:and here's all the relevant context. And then you have your
Unknown:basic AI operating system, like your cloud or your ChatGPT or
Unknown:your Gemini in the middle. And then you've set up your back
Unknown:end, so where AI can access your context, what your business is
Unknown:about, your name, your brand, your packages, your contracts,
Unknown:and all that stuff. And then what that allows you to do, once
Unknown:you've set up that system, where it connects, you can do a simple
Unknown:prompt like this that might take you 10 seconds. Hey, I just got
Unknown:off a call with a leader, and they're interested in me sending
Unknown:them a proposal. I want you to look at that called transcript
Unknown:and identify their core pain points. Then I want you to
Unknown:reference my existing services and packages and help me build a
Unknown:pitch deck for this engagement. Make sure you reference my brand
Unknown:colors, my logo, and all that. And then hit enter. And once you
Unknown:set up that system, the AI will go in, read the transcript,
Unknown:analyze it, reach back into your back end, like your Notion, your
Unknown:Google Drive, your Outlook, find your pre-existing services,
Unknown:blend those two together, and then I'll write the code for an
Unknown:entire presentation. It'll go ahead and build that out.
Unknown:That might be six to 10 hours of work before that can now be
Unknown:initiated in the first, you know, 1015 minutes, once you
Unknown:have that system in place, now it's not final, because you know
Unknown:the AI is going to do its best attempt. You still need your
Unknown:judgment, you still need skill to review it, but sheesh, like
Unknown:you're saving six hours, gets in, it gets compressed down
Unknown:about 15 seconds, and that sounds like hype, but so does
Unknown:seeing a car go from zero to 60 in less than 10 seconds if you
Unknown:spent your whole life riding a horse, it's the equivalent
Unknown:today.
Scott Ritzheimer:Yeah, it's fascinating. Fascinating. Well,
Scott Ritzheimer:Tim, there's a question that I'm eager to hear your answer to.
Scott Ritzheimer:This question I ask all my guests, and it is this: What is
Scott Ritzheimer:the biggest secret you wish wasn't a secret at all? What's
Scott Ritzheimer:that one thing you wish everybody watching or listening
Scott Ritzheimer:today knew.
Unknown:I'll say you're already on that mountain. A lot of
Unknown:people look forward there, they have things they want to achieve
Unknown:and things that they want to accomplish, and it's like it's
Unknown:this mountain over there that they need to then start
Unknown:climbing. I think, when you actually get more granular, you
Unknown:realize there's a lot of things that you've already done that
Unknown:are moving you in that direction, and you're actually
Unknown:probably standing at the foothills or standing somewhere
Unknown:on that mountain, and it's not somewhere that you're that
Unknown:you're not already, and I think the difference. Is when you're
Unknown:on that mountain, it's easier to continue when just looking at a
Unknown:big challenge. It's easy to feel like you have to get started,
Unknown:and there's all this inertia to overcome, but when you realize,
Unknown:oh, I'm already making progress in this direction, or I'm
Unknown:already there, then I think, I think it's a lot easier. You
Unknown:have to see yourself as already doing it, as already it, you
Unknown:know, when I got trained to become a coach, after you
Unknown:graduate from the certification process, so many people are
Unknown:like, when I get my first client, then I'll be a coach,
Unknown:but then they don't act in alignment because they don't
Unknown:believe that's who they are already, so they act as if
Unknown:they're not a coach, so they don't do the things that a coach
Unknown:would do, but as soon as you say, okay, I am this or I am
Unknown:that. It's suddenly appropriate to do the things that that
Unknown:person would do, and I think a lot of people just get stuck
Unknown:because they, they choose to put it outside of them instead of
Unknown:seeing that they're already there.
Scott Ritzheimer:Yeah, so good, so good. Well, Tim, there's some
Scott Ritzheimer:folks listening to this, and they'd love help, you know,
Scott Ritzheimer:taking the next step, whether it be the first one or the 500th
Scott Ritzheimer:into really putting AI to work in the and allowing it to shape
Scott Ritzheimer:their practice. Where can they reach out to you? Where can they
Scott Ritzheimer:find more out about the work that you all do?
Unknown:Yep, find me on LinkedIn, Tim Harrison, and you
Unknown:can also find more at Coaching Innovation lab.com We put
Unknown:together a special package that special link for people who find
Unknown:out about me on this podcast, which will be included in the
Unknown:show notes, so make sure you check those out.
Scott Ritzheimer:Fantastic, fantastic, we'll get that in the
Scott Ritzheimer:notes for everybody. And Tim, just really a fascinating
Scott Ritzheimer:conversation. Pleasure having you here. Thanks so much for
Scott Ritzheimer:being on the show, and for those of you watching and listening
Scott Ritzheimer:today, you know your time and attention mean the world to us.
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Scott Ritzheimer:did, and I cannot wait to see you next time. Take care. Hey
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