00:00 Introduction and Listener's Question

00:22 Discussing God's Love and Judgment

01:30 The Urgency of Salvation

05:22 Introduction to the Book of Exodus

09:06 Moses' Early Life and God's Providence

14:49 Moses' Encounter with God

18:58 Jesus' Ministry in Gentile Territory

23:31 Conclusion and Prayer

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to another edition

of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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Hello.

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We have another question

that we should get to.

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We're gonna get to this right

off the bat here, and it was

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written in by Mike Clementi.

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Now Mike is one of our HCPs,

highly committed participants.

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He's a guy who's attending,

he's connecting, he's serving.

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One of the ministries he serves

in is our true North student

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ministry, our high school ministry,

uh, and junior high honor.

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Yeah, but he's with our high school guys

and they were having a lively discussion,

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I guess, this last week, and he had a

question that he wanted to bring to us,

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and he says this, after the great white

throne judgment, does God still love

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the people who were cast into hell since

they didn't repent of their sins and

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are living eternally separated from him?

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If he does, what does that love look like?

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Yeah, what do you think?

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When we know that God is immutable.

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We've talked about this before.

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We, in fact, I think Pastor Mark and

I talked about this in an episode

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last week, where God is not sometimes

love and sometimes wrath, and

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sometimes holiness and he is all of

these things all at the same time.

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But he directs his love.

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He directs his affection.

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He directs his mercy and his grace.

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Towards objects of his choosing.

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And so I guess the question is,

does he direct any of those things

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towards those that are in hell?

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And I, my position has

always been on this one.

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I don't think he does.

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I believe that his wrath is there,

his judgment is there, his anger

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that is there, his fury is there.

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I don't believe that his love is

present in hell on those, that he

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is pouring those things out on.

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The wonderful thing about life is that we

are given things that we don't deserve.

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Sometimes theologians talk about the

good gifts of God being common grace.

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The sun arises on the just and the unjust.

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He sends rain for the

wicked and the righteous.

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All of us participate in the blessings

that God bestows upon us in this life.

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And the beauty of it is

that this is the season.

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This is why Hebrews, the

author, pleads with them.

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He says, now, today is a day of salvation.

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Do not harden your hearts as

they did in the wilderness.

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He's talking about Israel in

the book of numbers, when they

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continually rebelled against the

Lord and against Aaron and Moses.

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And so he's pleading with them saying,

today is today's a day of salvation.

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I think we forget.

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All too quickly that we do

believe in a heaven and a hell, a

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forever here and a forever there.

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I think the question of God's love is

relevant, but it's not as important as,

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where am I gonna be at the end of my life?

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Because you're going to be at one place

where the other, and even if you could

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say, and I don't know that you can.

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That God does love the unbeliever in hell.

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They're still in hell.

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Yeah.

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That doesn't change.

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And maybe you could say, well, if God

loves them maybe they're experiencing

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less hell than what they deserve.

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And I don't think that stands scripturally

either, because the Bible tells us that

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God's going to, as you just said, pastor

pge PO's wrath in just measure on those

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who do not obey the gospel of God.

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And so I don't know.

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Of any text that gives me any hope to

say that the unbeliever is loved by God.

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In fact, I think because the unbeliever

in hell has none of the common grace

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that God affords to us here and now that

their perpetual existence before God

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is one of, how does Scripture put it?

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Grinding their teeth.

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Mm-hmm.

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Gnashing, weeping and gnashing of teeth.

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Weeping and gnashing of, thank you.

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That's the terminology I was looking for.

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They're weeping and they're

gnashing their teeth.

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Those two terms don't convey any amount of

solace or happiness or relief or reprieve.

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The gnashing of teeth tells me

they're still angry with God.

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They're still vitriolic toward him.

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There's still a sense

of, we don't like you.

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I, why am I here?

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Maybe there's a sense of

injustice on their part.

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Of course, it's not.

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God is just.

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But when you perish the first time

in your flesh and you go to hell

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and you perish the second time,

there is no change in who you are.

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A Christian can look forward

to our glorification, we're

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gonna become different.

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But an unbeliever dies in their sin

and they continue to sin against God.

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We have no reason to think otherwise.

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And so I'm with you.

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I don't see any reason to think

that an unbeliever shares in God's

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affection or love in the afterlife.

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But here and now you

have God's good gifts.

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His common grace is bestowed

on everybody, and therefore,

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now is the time of salvation.

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If you're hearing this message

and you're not in Christ, let me

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plead with you, today is a day.

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Mm-hmm.

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And even that, I mean, his love towards

the lost right now is a love that is

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intended to lead them to repentance.

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It's intended to result in the

softening of their hearts and them

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coming to faith in Christ and their

salvation once someone is gone.

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There is no more opportunity for that.

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And so there is no his love, if he

were to pour out his love to those that

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are in hell there's no potential for

that love to be actualized in their

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salvation because it's, it exists for

man to live once and then comes judgment.

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So yeah, I think that's a

helpful distinction that you were

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talking about there, for sure.

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Yeah, and I guess it's

important for us to note.

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Again, it's not, the question about

God's love is not the question

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in the afterlife here and now.

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It matters a ton.

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Does God love people?

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And the answer is yes.

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Scripture tells us.

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Right?

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And that's the love, as you

mentioned, Romans chapter two, that

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his kindness leads us to repentance.

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Hebrew chapter nine, it's a point for

man wants to die and then comes judgment.

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Yep.

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Those are the things that matter

here and now and the next life.

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Man, our fat is sealed.

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Yeah.

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There's no other way to look at it.

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Yep.

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Well, hey, let's jump into our Bible

reading as we're going to turn into

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a new book in the Old Testament,

and that is gonna be Exodus.

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So we are in Exodus one through

three today, and in your reading

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you're gonna see multiple vignettes

little snapshots, little scenes

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here as these chapters unfold.

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And really what chapter one is doing

is it's setting the stage for the

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conflict that's going to happen here.

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It's mentioning, again, the number

of the descendants of Jacob there

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in verse five, being 70 persons.

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But then it's, from there

we're gonna talk about the.

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Multiplication of the Israelites,

and that's gonna create a problem

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because it's gonna say in verse

eight, there are Rosen, new King

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over Egypt who did not know Joseph.

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So he has no reason to show

any sort of favor or kindness

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towards the people of Israel.

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And the problem is the people of Israel

were growing in multiplying in numbers,

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no longer just 70 people anymore.

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And so he's going to take the approach

of saying, in order to slow them down, we

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need to discourage them and to discourage

them, we need to enslave them and we

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need to treat them hardly and be cruel.

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Task masters.

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For them to afflict them with heavy

burdens, as it says in verse 11.

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But it backfires verse 12, because

the more they're afflicted,

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the more they're multiplying.

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This should cause us to

remember the Abrahamic covenant.

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Not only the creation mandate be

fruitful and multiply, but also

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the Abrahamic covenant that God

had told them that Abraham, that

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he would make him a great nation.

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And even the words that he gave to Jacob

before Jacob left Beersheba to enter into

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Egypt, there at the very end, God told

him, Hey, you're leaving the promised

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land, but I'm gonna make you a great.

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Nation as you go down into Egypt.

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So that's what God's doing, and

Pharaoh can't stand it even to

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the point that he can instruct the

Hebrew midwives to kill the Israelite

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children, the males as they're born.

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The midwives here, they fear

God and they refuse to do this.

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And they even deceive Pharaoh

when Pharaoh asks about it.

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And he says that the Israelite wives

are too robust and they give birth

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before we're able to get there.

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And this is a lie, but it's a lie that

God condones, and we've talked about this

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before because this is a unique situation.

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Our descending pastor used to

talk about wartime rules, right?

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That during war a spy, if he's

caught, is not gonna admit to being

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a spy and spill all the secrets.

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He's gonna still employ deception for

the greater good of what's happening

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here in the bigger picture of things.

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And I think that's what we see

here with the Hebrew midwives.

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This is not condoning

saying, yeah, lying iss fine.

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Go for it and lie.

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This is a unique

circumstance where they're.

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Choosing the better part of what is good

over the more evil part of what they

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could have done in those situations.

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Yeah.

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Shif ua, first of all, we think based on

their names, that they're probably Jewish.

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So these are not Egyptian midwives,

I think, I think their names are

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enough evidence to suggest that

they're Jewish, they're Israelites.

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Yeah.

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And there's probably more than two.

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I'm just gonna go out on a limb here,

given how many kids there are, how

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many people there are in the Exodus

account, we're looking at about a

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million to 2 million people total.

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So there's probably a lot

more than Chira and Pua.

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I'm guessing that maybe

they were the leaders of the

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overseers of the other midwives.

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We don't know.

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Ultimately I just know that

there's probably more than two.

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That's gonna be my

working hypothesis here.

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And I want you to notice here, we have

noticed that they did deceive the Pharaoh.

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He.

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He was lied to, but notice

what God commends in verse 21,

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because the midwives feared God.

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He gave them families.

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It was because of their faith in

the Lord, not their deception.

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Although deception is un unavoidably

part of what they did here.

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But it was because they feared the Lord.

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They made a decision thinking this

is the best thing we can do given the

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circumstances, and God honors their fear.

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Another way to put that is God honors

their faith, their faith in him, that they

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trusted him, they wanted to follow him.

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And so I think that's what

you ought to focus on.

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Yeah.

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I agree.

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I agree.

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Yeah, and I'm with you on that.

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I think they're Hebrew.

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Yeah.

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If I misspoke and called

them Egyptian midwife.

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Nope, you didn't.

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I was just clarifying for their sake.

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Well, in chapter two, one of the children

that's gonna be born, one of these Hebrew

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boys that's gonna be born is gonna be

born to a man in the house of Levi.

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Now that's of note because this

tells us that Moses a lot of times

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we think about the main characters

like David in the Old Testament,

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and we think, okay, line of Christ.

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Well, Moses is not line of Christ.

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Moses is actually a line

of the priestly family.

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Now they're not.

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Yet the priestly family, they will

be, but this is the tribe of Levi.

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And so, Moses is born to this man and

his wife, and he's gonna be hidden.

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And until she can't help concealing

him anymore it's becoming noticeable.

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His crying, whatever it may be, she takes

him, she puts him in this tar covered

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basket and puts him in the Nile River.

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And this is where the.

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The famous story, the well-known

story, Pharaoh's daughter happens

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to find, the baby recognizes him as

a Hebrew, but rather than killing

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the child, she takes the child.

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Now, the rudder of Hebrews says it

was because of the beauty of the

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child that his parents hid the child.

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And it's also probably because of the

beauty of the child that Pharaoh's

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daughter decides to take the child

and keep the child for herself.

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But.

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God's kindness here in allowing

his sister to observe all this.

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Moses' sister, Moses' sister goes and

calls his mom to be the child's nurse.

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And so Moses' mom, in a kind of kindness

of God, gets to be with her child for

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a little while longer there until then,

she turns the child back over and he's

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gonna be raised in the house of Pharaoh.

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So interesting birth

account here for Moses.

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Yeah.

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This is clearly God's providential

hand caring for his people.

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They don't know at this point.

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And of course.

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Neither does Moses or his

mother, father, Amram and Jakobe.

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They don't know what this child's gonna

be, but God, providentially cares for

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him, protects his life in order to

protect the life of the whole nation.

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This is a really cool

way that God operates.

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He doesn't always do stuff like this,

but here you can see the thread of

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God's sovereign control happening

in even small events like this.

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Moses is gonna turn into that deliver.

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But he's not quite ready when he

first moves to provide deliverance

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or salvation for his own people.

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And that is what is recorded

in the rest of chapter two.

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'cause he finds an Egyptian

mistreating an Israelite, and he

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rises up and kills the Egyptian.

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And then he hides the body.

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And then the next day he sees

two Israelites quarreling

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there and they are fighting.

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And he goes to stop that fight and they

say, well, are you gonna kill us too?

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And then he realizes, man,

this is known what I've done.

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And he ends up having to flee.

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Pharaoh finds out, and Pharaoh wants to

kill him as well for killing an Egyptian.

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So Moses is doing things the wrong way.

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He's not yet ready.

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God's gonna say, I'm gonna put you

in this wilderness area called Midian

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for another 40 years before you're

ready to go and deliver the people the

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way I want you to deliver my people.

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And so that's where he ends

up at the home of Jethro.

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He's called rule or I guess that's

how you would say that rule.

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That's how I would say it.

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At least.

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I don't know how R-E-U-E-L,

that is the same as Jethro.

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Just a different name there.

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And he's gonna end up in hi in his house.

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And this is where Moses is gonna

meet his own wife, Zipporah.

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And this is where he's going to begin a

family during this time in Midian, but

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Midian was in the middle of nowhere.

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It certainly was not the place you

would expect to find the person that

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God is gonna use to do what he's gonna

do with Moses later on in his life.

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Yeah.

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So Moses is 40 years old when he

kills the Egyptian, which tells me

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he's lived quite a number of years

and he knows that he's a Hebrew.

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Yeah, which is also interesting.

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You don't find out when he finds out, you

don't know what the story is behind that.

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You don't know what his mother,

his adoptive mother tells him.

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We just know that he's aware

of who he is at this point.

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But the problem is that he takes

his matters into his own hands.

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He goes and kills the guy instead of

pursuing some kind of legal means.

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And one, one would tend to think

given Moses position, yeah, maybe he

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had the ability to do some things,

to pull some strings and say, mom.

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Help me out here.

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There's a situation, or maybe

she wasn't on the scene.

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I don't know.

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I'm making a lot of speculation,

but I just want you to

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see Moses knows who he is.

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He takes matters into his own hands.

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He's 40 years old at this point,

and he makes a boneheaded decision,

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but God is not done with them yet.

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This is one of the most striking things

to me, is that Moses is an imperfect

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deliverer from the very beginning.

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He tries to do things in his

own strength and his own power,

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and God's like, you know what?

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You're not ready yet.

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So he sends him into the wilderness

to bake a few more years in order

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to prepare him to bring him back.

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Wherever you are, baby God

has you in the wilderness of.

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Your life and you're not where you

wanna be, but God knows what he's doing.

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Trust his hand, trust his

leadership, and be patient.

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Moses has to wait another 40

years before he's ready to

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come back and do some things.

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Yeah, I take great comfort in that

because I trust that God is working

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even when we don't realize it.

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40 years to bake is a long time,

but that's what God does for Moses.

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Yeah.

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And not necessarily in a place

that he would want to be.

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Oh, for sure.

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He went from the Palace of

Pharaoh to Rule's House.

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I mean, Jeff's house was probably nice,

but it certainly wasn't Pharaoh's.

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No, I mean, I heard the Egyptians

had modern, well, not modern,

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but they had air conditioning.

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Yeah.

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They had in indoor plumbing of some sort.

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Not as sophisticated as we have, but

these guys had the best of the best.

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Yeah.

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They were intelligent people.

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And so you're right.

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He goes from the palace.

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To the pit.

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Yeah.

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In a matter of days.

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It's the opposite of Joseph.

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Yeah.

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Well, in between chapter, that section,

and in chapter three, we get the impetus

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here of what causes God to act at least

from our perspective in real time.

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And that is he hears the

groaning of his people.

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Pharaoh is afflicting the

people of Israel again.

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Concerned about their growing numbers.

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And so it says here that God heard

their groaning and he remembered

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his covenant with Abraham.

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This is in, again, another one of

those anthropomorphism where it

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describes God in a human way for us

to be able to understand something.

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It's not as though God had

forgotten about Israel because

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God doesn't forget anything.

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He's a God who is perfect in his

knowledge, perfect in his memory,

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perfect in his recollection.

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But rather this is basically him

saying, okay, this is the time's.

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He's beginning to act in

accordance with his perfect plan

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to deliver the people of Israel.

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And it's described here as remembering

his covenant with Abraham because his

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promise to Abraham was still active

even though it didn't look like it.

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His promise was still active and he

was going to bring it to fruition.

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And so then we get into chapter

three where he begins to move

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towards preparing Moses to be the

deliverer that he wanted him to be.

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And this is the burning bush.

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And so Moses is out and he is.

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Doing his shepherding duty and

he sees a bush that's on fire

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and yet it's not being consumed.

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So he turns aside to see what it

is he's told by the bush, take

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off your sandals for the feet.

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The ground on which you

are standing is, is holy.

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And it says that this is the

angel of the Lord who appeared

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to him in the burning bush.

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Now, we talked about Christoph, he

with Pastor Mark, because Pastor

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Mark doesn't like Christoph.

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He apparently he doesn't like

Jesus in the Old Testament.

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I heard that.

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Yeah.

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So, this says the angel of the

Lord appeared to the burning bush.

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A lot of times we see the angel

of the Lord, and when the angel

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of the Lord speaks for God,

when it's appearing as a, as a.

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I guess physical being, we would say

that that is the pre-incarnate Christ.

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This is the angel Lord

appearing as a burning bush.

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So it's the same individual,

the pre-incarnate Holy Spirit.

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I, yeah, I, I don't know, jumping

into this, some pretty shaky theology

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there, but it's God nonetheless, right.

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Yeah, this one's easier for me to say.

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This is God the Father.

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Yeah.

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And I guess you, again I know it was a

joke at the beginning, but fire, when

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you start thinking about fire, it's

often associated with the Holy Spirit.

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I mean, think about Acts chapter two.

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Yeah.

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Flames of fire on their

head, or tongues of fire.

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That is so I look the Holy Spirit, the

Father, the son, they all operate in ways

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that aren't quite, they're unique to God.

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Yeah.

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That is all I'm gonna say.

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So it's good to be confused by this.

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Yeah, I'm with you.

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And he calls Moses and he says,

look I've got a job for you, Moses.

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And this is where we begin to get

into Moses's insecurities and his

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lack of faith, because he's gonna

argue with God and he's gonna

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continue to argue with God for quite

a while beyond chapter three here.

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But God is going to reveal

himself finally here as the.

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Covenant God, and this is happens in

verse 13, when Moses said to God, if I

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come to the people and say to them, the

God of your fathers has sent me to you,

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they're gonna ask me what's his name?

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Who shall I say is sending me?

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And God answers.

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I am who I am.

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This is the name Yahweh.

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This is the name that is going to

be the significant name still, even

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today for Jews today, the name that

many will still not even pronounce,

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but this is his covenant name.

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Is he's not the God who was, he's not

the God who will be eventually, he's

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the God who is presently these things.

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He is the God of their fathers,

the God of Abraham and Isaac.

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And this speaks to his internality,

and he's also it speaks to the idea

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that he is the God of the living.

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And this is the God who's coming

for his people, and he's gonna

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fulfill the promises that he had

made to their fathers, to Abraham.

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He's the guy who's.

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Able to do this.

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There's so much wrapped up in

the name Yahweh, in the name.

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I am who I am, and that's what

he's commissioning Moses to go

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with as he goes to announce to the

people that God is here to deliver.

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You don't forget here that Moses is now

40 years older, so he's 80 years old.

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In fact, he turned 80 back in chapter two.

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Starting I think at verse 23.

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I think that's when we start looking

at the next 40 years of his life.

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So we, you miss 40 years

of Moses growing up.

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For 40 years of him maturing

and becoming something new.

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And yet I'm not too encouraged

by this scene because you're

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right, he's arguing with God.

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Yeah.

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Like, dude, what were you

doing in the wilderness?

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Did you not learn your lesson?

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And yet this is still the man that

God chooses to redeem his people.

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And I love the end of chapter two.

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I wanted to point it out

'cause it's so sweet.

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Look at verses 24 and 25.

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If you're looking at your Bible,

Exodus chapter two, God heard.

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God remembered.

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God saw, and God knew.

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I love that God is.

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Active here.

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He's aware he's not distant.

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Chapter three, he becomes more active

in present and he's commissioning

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Moses to go and do his bidding.

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And Moses is, this is not his

finest hour, let's just say that.

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I'm not impressed, although I am imp

impressed and I guess this is the point I.

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Not with the deliverer that God

chooses, but that the fact that God

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chooses to deliver through this guy.

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And at the end of the day, this

is how Paul talks about his role.

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He says, who?

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Who?

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Who is?

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Who is Paul?

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Who is Apol?

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These are men through whom we preached

and you believed at the end of the

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day, one plants and another waters.

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But God gives the increase.

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God gives the growth.

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Every man that you interact with,

preacher, pastor, overseer is a man

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still at best, and therefore, every

good man who's doing his job well

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is gonna point you not to himself,

but to the Lord whom he serves.

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And so I guess Moses here in

chapter three just reminds us,

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even the best of men are still men.

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At best, keep your attention

and your focus and your ultimate

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hope on the Lord himself.

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Let's flip over to our New

Testament reading, which is Matthew

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chapter 15, verses 21 through 39.

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Matthew 1521.

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They certainly at this point, are

now fully in gentile territory.

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We can say that with confidence.

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They're in the region of tire and side,

and here we have a Canaanite woman.

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Now that should ring a bell from

our time in the Old Testament.

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She's not an Israelite,

she's not a Jewish woman.

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She is somebody from outside of that.

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And she hears that Jesus is there

and she comes up crying out.

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Lord have mercy on me.

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Son of David, she even applies this title.

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It's fascinating.

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There's so many people that we

encounter where it's, I wanna ask

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the question, how did you know,

how did you get this information?

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And this is one of them.

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How did she know that

he's the son of David?

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How did she know that that's significant?

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If she's this Canaanite woman, she has

to have some sort of background here.

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And he says, she says, my daughter

is severely oppressed by a demon.

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Jesus initially doesn't respond to her,

and his disciples came and said, Hey, send

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her away for, she's crying out after us.

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And he answered, well, I was sent only

to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

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She kneels and says, Lord, but help me.

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And he says, it's not right

to take this is borderline it.

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It feels harsh Jesus'

interaction with her and yet.

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We know the heart of Christ is for the

lost and he's drawing out her faith.

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And that's what she eventually

does when she says yes Lord.

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But even the dogs eat the crumbs

that fall from their master's table.

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I think this is more for the

disciples than it is a rebuke of her.

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I think it's more him telling the

disciples and showing the disciples

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that his mission is bigger than they

can even fathom at this point, because

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he does elicit from her this great

statement of faith and he commence

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her and says, A woman, great is your

faith, be it done for you as you desire.

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And it says her daughter

was healed instantly.

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So, this is.

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Something that can look like

Jesus is being really harsh.

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But I think this is Jesus teaching his

disciples and then pulling this faith

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out of this woman, which she responds in

a great statement of faith there to him.

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From here we get into

more of his miracles.

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He's now by the region

of the Sea of Galilee.

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He's going up to the mountain.

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He's healing.

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He's healing the lame, the blind, the

crippled, doing all of these miracles and.

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He's meeting the needs

as they're coming to him.

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And it says that the crowds were

glorifying the God of Israel.

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They're coming to him because they

recognize that he had what they needed,

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and yet really they needed something

that, that was even greater than the

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physical healing that he was providing.

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And this concept of he has what they need

continues in verse 32, he's now teaching

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and this crowd is there because he's

doing all these miracles and they get

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hungry and we have the same situation.

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And the disciples say, Hey,

why don't you send him away?

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He says well, how many.

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Loaves do you have?

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And they said, well, we have

seven and a few small fish.

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And then he takes these loaves, he

breaks them and he feeds this time

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the 4,000 instead of the 5,000.

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So this is a different instant,

but he's doing the same thing.

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He's feeding and then he sends the

crowds away and he's gonna leave

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to go to another region in Galilee

there called the region of Maan.

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There at the end of chapter 15.

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It's my favorite dinosaur.

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I think that this is, my guess anyway,

is that this is Gentile territory.

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Yes, the whole time.

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Okay.

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You don't know that though.

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It doesn't tell us specifically.

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In fact, when you got to verses

29 through 31, that little summary

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statement about Jesus' ministry stuff.

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Yeah.

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Doesn't say that he's

in Gentile territory.

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It just says that he's walking

beside the sea of Galilee.

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The one hint that I saw, I think

that could be there, is the fact

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that they glorified the God of

Israel, which it could go either way.

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It could be them saying,

this is just the reality.

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He's the God of Israel.

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And it also could be

he's the God of Israel.

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He's not our God as we understand him.

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You know, whoever these gentiles

are, it's the God of Israel.

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I also think that because in verses 32

through 39, you already noticed here

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that and noted that this is a different

account for the feeding of the 5,000.

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From the feeding of the 5,000.

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I could see the feeding of

the 5,000 being for Israel.

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They picked up 12 loaves afterward,

signifying, in my estimation,

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the 12 tribes, the hold of the

tribes of Israel are gonna be

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blessed under this coming Messiah.

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But in chapter 15 here, with the

feeding of the 4,000 and having the.

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Seven baskets full.

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Seven often being the

number of completion.

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I think this is him speaking to the

crowd saying, I'm gonna provide not

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only for the Israelites and the 12

tribes, but also for the Gentiles.

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And this will be a perfect

and complete salvation offered

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both to Jew and to Greek alike.

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That's my take on these verses here.

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The fact that it's the same the

same miracle event feeding of the.

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Multiplying of the fish and loaves, I

think solidifies my understanding of that.

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What do you think?

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Yeah I see that as well, and I've heard

that the same position before as well

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and as the gentile I'm thankful for that.

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That's right.

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I'm glad for you guys as well.

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Pastor Mark and I were, we were

celebrating our gentile identity.

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Good for you guys.

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Yeah.

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So, you know.

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Well, welcome to the team.

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Yeah.

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We're glad to have you.

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Happy to be grafted in.

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Shalom, happy to be grafted in.

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Alright y'all.

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Let's pray and then we'll

be done with this episode.

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God, thanks for your kindness

in delivering us, God.

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Not through an imperfect man

like Moses, but through the

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perfect man in Jesus Christ.

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And we thank you so much that our

deliverance is is not just a temporal

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deliverance, but an internal deliverance.

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That our sins have been forgiven, that

we have salvation through Jesus Christ.

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I pray that that message would

go out further and that we

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would be your mouthpiece as

Moses would be your mouthpiece.

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That we would be your mouthpiece in a

way with the gospel, with the message

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of salvation, with the message of hope

in Christ, and that you would lead other

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people to freedom from their slavery.

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From sin just through us going with

the message that can deliver them.

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And so we thank you for the Exodus

and how it points us to the even

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greater exodus that we have in Christ.

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We look forward to continuing to read

about it, and we pray this in Jesus' name.

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Amen.

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