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EP 34 |  The Materio Interview: Building Connected Systems with Mary Beth Chau
Episode 345th May 2026 • For Designer Business • 4Dbiz
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Join Shayna and Evelyn as they sit down with Mary Beth Chau, co-founder and CEO of Materio, for a candid conversation about the technology that's quietly solving one of the interior design industry's most persistent problems: the gap between your drawing set, your selections, your schedule, and your procurement. If you've ever watched a project unravel because a spec changed in one place but not another, spent hours transferring information between tools that should have been talking to each other all along, or wondered whether there's a better way to build the operational layer underneath your creative work, this episode was made for you.

Mary Beth breaks down what makes Materio different from every other project management tool on the market: it's not just project management, it's project delivery, and it's the only system that builds everything on top of the floor plan. You'll learn why that one distinction changes everything: from how your admin and your drafter stay in sync, to how mistakes get caught before they cost you eight months and a back-ordered product you can't replace.

Shayna and Evelyn also bring real client feedback to the table as they explore what features exist that most designers aren't using, what's on the roadmap, and what current workarounds exist to make your design process easier. You'll learn about the scope table view that gives owners the oversight layer they've been asking for, how to handle owner-supplied and GC-supplied materials today, and why the answer to half your operational frustrations might be one button away.

They also get into the harder conversation: the sunk cost fallacy that keeps designers stuck in systems that are quietly costing them money, the presentation perfectionism that creates duplicate work nobody is paying for, and the real reason designers can't find time to be creative. Here's the reality: it's not a time problem, it's a systems problem. Mary Beth's framework for knowing when it's time to switch tools is something every designer running a growing firm needs to hear.

They also discuss what AI actually means for designers who lead with creativity, and why the firms that are going to win aren't the ones who fear the technology but the ones who use it to finally free their minds to do the work only they can do

So, if you've been circling Materio, sitting on the fence about switching systems, or already using it and wondering whether you're getting everything out of it that you could be, this episode will give you the clarity, the shortcuts, and the honest roadmap you need to decide what comes next.

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