At one point during recording, after a pee break, Nicholas Krgovich sat back down and told me, "I'm having fun." It was a tender moment, and the songwriter, singer, and musician brought that sweetness and curiosity to our entire conversation. He's a gem of a man who makes heart-opening music.

Content warning: hating yourself for being gay, completely uncomplicated nap, accidentally paving the way for your future happiness.

You can hear the pee break moment in the full convo at patreon.com/davemaher.

Follow Nicholas on Instagram, @nicholas_krgovich, and listen to and buy his music on Bandcamp. I recommend starting with the recent Shabason & Krgovich record, At Scaramouche, before his newest, Ducks, comes out THIS FRIDAY (I am assuming the week in which you're listening), March 10!

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Music = Future: "Use Me" / James Blackshaw: "The Cloud of Unknowing" / Johnnie Frierson: "Miracles"