Paul is reeling from the injustice of Finland not winning Eurovision. We talk about how Europe needs a bit of joy and glitter.

In this episode we discuss National Conservatism, or Nat-Cs as they are being referred to as in the UK (mainly by the left wing). A big conference in London has attracted the right of the Conservative party, speakers who are quite aggressive and their sympathisers. What's being said it what was once hushed.

What do they want and what are the similarities with the UK and US arms of this movement?

In Florida, DEI initiatives are being banned in government institutions. And all of this is happening with the consent of the population who votes for them. How do you get to a point where people vote against their own interest?