Who's that knocking at the door? It's Paul! Come to check on his old friend Rich. Isn't it time for a new podcast? Isn't it time to get going? The answer is...yes.

Who is this now?

Yes.

Who's at the door?

Hey, Rich.

It's Paul.

Can I come in?

Hey Paul.

What are you doing here?

I haven't seen you in a while.

We used to do that podcast back in the day, and I was

thinking, if you're cool with it, we could start that podcast up again.

I can't talk about product management anymore, man.

I just can't do it.

No, that's fair enough.

We said what we needed to say.

That was five years on APIs, PMs, and, and product.

That was a What, what I've noticed is that out in the world, people are trying

to make sense of a lot of what's happening with business and various kinds of change.

And technology's at the root of it, but it's not the only thing.

And everybody's trying to figure out what's next for them.

And I don't know, maybe you and I have some insight here.

I mean, we, we, we worked together for 10 years.

We've did a lot of products.

We've worked with giant companies and governments and organizations,

and we sold our company.

I think we're gonna have something to say.

I, I think beyond having something to say, I don't think we're

just gonna vent and complain.

I think we wanna be helpful.

Yeah, let's be positive.

Let's guide people and, and sort of let them know what we know.

And, you know, They might disagree.

They might have all kinds of thoughts, that'll be great.

Not always positive.

Paul.

I do need, I need that initial momentum to finally arrive at

a helpful, constructive place.

Look, I, I got us a name.

Oh, no.

All right.

Keep it low key, dude.

Let's keep our egos out of this.

What's the name?

What do you and I do?

We help people out.

We give them good counsel.

Right.

You used to be a lawyer.

I'm a technology explainer.

Ziade and Ford Advisors.

Whoa.

Um, Okay.

All right.

Uh, yeah.

All right, fine.

Let's do it.

I appreciate you putting my name before yours.

Eh, it just sounds better.

And kinda like a drive time radio way.

I got ziadeford.com.

Okay.

There's a website there.

It's a little rough.

I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I, I've been working on this a little bit.

I think it's time.

Also, you're, you're wearing like old shorts and a t-shirt with holes in it.

I, it, we just gotta get into this again, man.

Let's get back out into the world.

Um, we need a theme song.

No.

Okay.

I have good news.

Oh, no.

All Right.

I think we're ready to get back out there, Paul.

Let's do it.

We'll call this podcast Zero.

Check out the website.

Send us an email, hello@ziadeford.com.

We'll be in all the usual podcast places that sit, that live

in your pocket or on your computer.

Subscribe and off we go.

Looking forward to it.

Paul.

I'm ready to do this.